Are The USA Epiphones Worth It? | 2021 Epiphone Gibson Casino Review + Demo E-230TD

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The Trogly's Guitar Show

The Trogly's Guitar Show

Күн бұрын

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@Trog
@Trog 3 жыл бұрын
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@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s great Gibson is offering some U.S.A. made Epiphone instruments. I’ve spent time with a 1980s Masterbuilt Japan Epiphone that was a fantastic guitar as well as some original vintage versions, I think this U.S.A. Version most certainly fills the market gap. Thanks for the review. I do hope Gibson will build a few U.S.A. Epiphone solid body instruments in the future, although the Wiltshire models kind of directly compete with the Gibson Junior and Special Models, so I’m not holding my breath.
@JokersWild70
@JokersWild70 3 жыл бұрын
How about reviewing the Malcolm Young signature Gretsch????
@robmarmaduke
@robmarmaduke 3 жыл бұрын
The buzz is the intonation screws rattling, I have the solution for it on my channel
@Edward1312
@Edward1312 3 жыл бұрын
What Gibson is doing with Epiphone at the moment is excellent. Reintroducing US made higher end models, re-introducing the old style Kalamazoo headstock, which looks much better IMHO and at the same time upping the quality of the Epiphone import models through the Inspired by Gibson Line and Masterbilt reissues. Whoever in Gibson is responsible for this strategy, of attempting to raise Epiphone back to the prestige level it use to occupy (up to 1970) needs to be given a medal!
@Anjohl
@Anjohl 2 жыл бұрын
Real shame about switching from Rosewood to Laurel on everything but some top end models. I'd rather pay $30-$40 more per guitar and get proper Rosewood or Ebony. The fretwork is on average only ok as well.
@Edward1312
@Edward1312 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anjohl True but I would say that Ebony on the mid range Modern series has been a leap forward
@strawsparky33
@strawsparky33 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anjohl you can thank their wood lawsuits for that. theyre probably making overly sure that they dont get in trouble for that again
@henrydiaz720
@henrydiaz720 2 жыл бұрын
Pssst...candy little girl?
@arno-luyendijk4798
@arno-luyendijk4798 Жыл бұрын
Too bad that both VS versions still have the neck inlays upside down....not really good research on reviving the old model. The Chinese versions may be plasticky for some guitar snobs, but they got the inlays correct and out of personal experience, a far more beautiful, let alone PRESENT sustain. So.... more than 2000 bucks for these reissues and they still got finish and sound issues??? No way.
@MONTE12ax7
@MONTE12ax7 3 жыл бұрын
The “stair step” tailpiece is called a “Frequensator” used to separate the lower strings from the upper/. This is epiphone’ s best sounding tailpiece. It is wonderful they are bringing it back! Call me a faithful viewer.
@scottbogfoot
@scottbogfoot 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome tidbit of info! I never knew what to call them.😃
@rocktorrocks
@rocktorrocks 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyola2205 That’s really cool…I guess that would make it an early era “multi scale” guitar.
@SerpentsBane1995
@SerpentsBane1995 3 жыл бұрын
@@rocktorrocks Check out this instrument from the Renaissance called the Orpharion - it was the first (that we know of) multi-scale stringed instrument, with wooden frets and metal wound strings. It has a beautiful sound like a 12-string guitar, and a very unique shape that contributes highly to that.
@charleskahl1586
@charleskahl1586 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@LeviBulger
@LeviBulger 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyola2205 That guitar was likely made in the "Peerless factory". They are well known for making some of the best guitars outside the US during that time. They had impeccable craftsmanship and are highly sought after.
@whatisthis__95
@whatisthis__95 3 жыл бұрын
Why no black light anymore? It was my favorite part almost. Even on the new ones, it's nice to see its effect. Please bring it back
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, the black light is the end-all for QC issues.
@bigfootsburneraccount9160
@bigfootsburneraccount9160 3 жыл бұрын
Bring back the blacklight
@Wargasm644
@Wargasm644 3 жыл бұрын
Bring back the blacklight 😎
@simonrongeholmmadsen
@simonrongeholmmadsen 3 жыл бұрын
Probably because he mostly reviews newer guitars now... Not much to find with a blacklight... I also seem to remember him mentioning a new blacklight setup when he did the big move... Maybe it hasn't been setup yet.
@X-boomer
@X-boomer 3 жыл бұрын
What we really want to see is a side by side comparison of the US model vs the affordable import
@gamingcraft456
@gamingcraft456 3 жыл бұрын
these backs and necks are SO BEAUTIFUL
@motorrebell
@motorrebell 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed , Would been AWESOME on the Front ( instead of the "Boring Burst" ) too ! .
@drew699
@drew699 2 ай бұрын
Prefer the back to the burst any day.
@SRT54
@SRT54 3 жыл бұрын
The grey case with the blue lining is identical to the 2011 Epiphone Casino ‘61 Reissue case.
@bigfootsburneraccount9160
@bigfootsburneraccount9160 3 жыл бұрын
Such a nice color combo
@jamesmcallister5494
@jamesmcallister5494 3 жыл бұрын
I like it lots.
@cobhc182
@cobhc182 3 жыл бұрын
You’re way too easy on Gibson for shoddy craftsmanship. At this price, they should be flawless.
@ExplodingPsyche
@ExplodingPsyche 3 жыл бұрын
Really. If I paid $2600 for a guitar and it came from the factory with scratches on the face and the headstock, that thing would be back in the box in minutes.
@stewartross13
@stewartross13 3 жыл бұрын
He's a full blown Gibson boot licker. We all know this. If you're ever looking for a biased Gibson review look no further than Trogly's channel.
@Weaselboy
@Weaselboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@stewartross13 just take what he says about condition with a grain of salt no need to get mad lol
@stewartross13
@stewartross13 3 жыл бұрын
@@Weaselboy I'm not mad I was just explaining to the guy who seemed surprised that he was way too easy on Gibson
@markbaum9615
@markbaum9615 3 жыл бұрын
My $330 Eart tele has no flaws... I like how the Trog says that fretboard chip by the nut will be covered by the strings anyway ....whatAGibbyTosser
@Eisenhower42
@Eisenhower42 3 жыл бұрын
I can almost guarantee you where that buzz was coming from. I've heard it 1000 times. I have a vintage ES330, as well as a couple modern Japanese-made Casinos. When you were getting that buzz on your bench, you had the pickup selector switch in the middle position. If you put the switch in either of the other two positions, you would not get that buzz. The reason is this: when it's in the middle, the tension springs on it are essentially slack, and the switch shaft vibrates against them causing a metallic rattle. When the switch is engaged either lead or rhythm, the tension is greater on the switch shaft, and no more rattle. I'd almost bet that's the source.
@BamaMoose61
@BamaMoose61 3 жыл бұрын
Yep while I was watching I was thinking "touch the selector switch and it will go away." ;-)
@neilmurphy9926
@neilmurphy9926 3 жыл бұрын
Yes is on mine
@X-boomer
@X-boomer 3 жыл бұрын
That’s probably unique to true hollow bodies as the top will resonate so much more
@jackaalucas
@jackaalucas 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you’re right
@americanjoe5486
@americanjoe5486 2 жыл бұрын
Cheap switch !!!
@nikodom8203
@nikodom8203 3 жыл бұрын
Was crossing my fingers Trogly would do a review on these. Been looking forward to this review since NAMM 2020!
@tacob69
@tacob69 3 жыл бұрын
You can definitely tell they are made in the Gibson factory by how horrible the routes are for the pickups.
@Emil77777
@Emil77777 3 жыл бұрын
It’s telling when the import guitars seem to have better QC than the USA models. The QC on that particular guitar is atrocious for the price.
@jameshumphrey2345
@jameshumphrey2345 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, my Chinese-made Epi UpTown Kat had fewer flaws than this. Of course the finish is cheaper from the start, and I bought it from Chicago Music Exchange, which seems to have pretty picky standards for the instruments it even accepts to resell.
@verruckterwissenschaftler
@verruckterwissenschaftler 3 жыл бұрын
But there is no freaking Gibson Garage in CHINA BAT VIRUS TOWN!!!
@joermnyc
@joermnyc 3 жыл бұрын
A minute with a file would clean that up, but I guess Gibson really just wants these out the door considering they didn’t let the clear coat dry before they slapped on the pickups and pick guard. 🤦🏼‍♂️
@verruckterwissenschaftler
@verruckterwissenschaftler 3 жыл бұрын
Fender Custom Shop, well I had to use a nice small file on my Custom Shop Fender Stratocaster 59 NOS Relic in the Trem cavity, clean up the neck pocket. I do not think these major brands are interested in anything but mooolah. Attention to detail on my Custom Shop Strat is rated at Poor. Nice thing though I can send back to Fender Custom Shop anytime with thier lifelong warranty. I would say all the scragleees you have in you pickup pocket looked exact in my trem pocket where there were toching the trem itself causing tuning irregularities on return to pitch. POOOR Crafsmanships all around here I see.
@phillippitts6294
@phillippitts6294 3 жыл бұрын
That’s more quality control issues than you should have to deal with for 2600 guitar
@PaulCooksStuff
@PaulCooksStuff 3 жыл бұрын
"the usual machining marks on the fretboard" Its almost a meme with a Trogly/Gibson review.
@Elraurko
@Elraurko 3 жыл бұрын
The only company that sells 2k plus guitars you have to finish yourself. Gibsons quality control is bordering on criminal.
@terrystephan7144
@terrystephan7144 3 жыл бұрын
Too many issues for the $$$ no way here.
@guitarflyer172
@guitarflyer172 3 жыл бұрын
Unless you’re displaying it in a glass case, you’re gonna get scratches and dings playing it. People get way too hung up on Gibson quality control. If it plays and sounds good, who cares about some swirls or minor scratches?
@andy_182
@andy_182 3 жыл бұрын
@@guitarflyer172 exactly. nothing is 100% perfectr.
@277southtombob
@277southtombob 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see more 60’s spec Epiphones made in the US. I really like the old American made Epiphones from the 50’s and 60’s like the Zephyr and Sheraton with the mini humbuckers that were a little hotter than the LP Deluxe mini. The Elitist series were great too from a few years ago.
@jacobzhu5589
@jacobzhu5589 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen some information said those are not minihumbuckers but single coils? Not so sure.
@277southtombob
@277southtombob 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobzhu5589 The New Yorker pickups in the early to mid 50’s were single coils but after Gibson bought them in 57’ they started making humbuckers in the same size. They wound them about 15% hotter than the Gibson ones.
@ericbgordon1575
@ericbgordon1575 3 жыл бұрын
Don't we today have both Mini H's *and* P90s that fit into a full-size H slot?
@queenhenryviii
@queenhenryviii 3 жыл бұрын
I can attest to the greatness of the '65 Elitist Casinos.
@joerob3081
@joerob3081 3 жыл бұрын
I played one at Sweetwater Thursday and it was beautiful playing and sounding
@grantlong5540
@grantlong5540 3 жыл бұрын
I had a mid 60’s ES330 with the same buzz that I could never find, it was so frustrating. At least the new models are vintage correct in that regard!
@knedy
@knedy 3 жыл бұрын
Could be a wire inside the guitar vibrating against the top.
@51bobtube
@51bobtube 3 жыл бұрын
I had a bass neck that buzzed. I turned the torsion adjust abit and it went away
@marcuseviltree6304
@marcuseviltree6304 3 жыл бұрын
I put some copper tape in and around the pots and on inside of cover. Helped alot. But be shure the tape doesn't touch any electronics.
@marcuseviltree6304
@marcuseviltree6304 3 жыл бұрын
And like Kennedy said make shure all soder welds are solid.
@brianeharmonjr
@brianeharmonjr 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like one of the bridge saddle screws rattling. They're usually not tight fits, in my experience. I think that wire/spring that is usually on an ABR helps with that type of vibration as much as it keeps the saddles from falling out.
@fernandoreynaaguilar1438
@fernandoreynaaguilar1438 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that Beatle song with Tony Sheridan on vocals? It goes: "Bring back... Bring back... Bring back my BLACKLiGHT to me"
@taatehortuap
@taatehortuap 10 ай бұрын
my blacklight lies over the ocean, my blacklight lies over the sea
@jazzbass5883
@jazzbass5883 3 жыл бұрын
My Korean Casino has that same buzz. Mine goes away when the pickup selector switch is either on Bridge or Neck positions. It only buzzes when in the middle position.
@terrycolletti6793
@terrycolletti6793 3 жыл бұрын
The streak continues! 100 plus episodes in a row using the word "faux" at least once! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@paulyguitary7651
@paulyguitary7651 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! This could be a total fabrication but I believe it. He does seem to say it quite often.
@donttalktome4696
@donttalktome4696 3 жыл бұрын
Is this real? I'm not autistic enough to check myself
@davidburke2132
@davidburke2132 3 жыл бұрын
🦊
@terrycolletti6793
@terrycolletti6793 3 жыл бұрын
Im just busting his balls. My night isn't complete anymore without watching this show. Been subscribed for 3 years now. 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
@terrycolletti6793
@terrycolletti6793 3 жыл бұрын
Just a joke for christ sake! 🙄🙄
@doster59
@doster59 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the darker one with the chrome pickup covers.
@jonhornbeck4324
@jonhornbeck4324 3 жыл бұрын
What you called a tailpiece with a stairsteppedness, is actually called a Frequensator Tailpiece. The short one emphasizes low frequencies, even if used on high strings. The long one emphasizes high frequencies, even if used on low strings.
@TommySG1
@TommySG1 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been under the impression that Gibson has upped their game these past few years under new management however looking at the QC on these I’m beginning to wonder. Sure, it’s still branded Epi although it’s made here too. One thing is for sure though, @ $2,500.00 I’d spring for the rest and buy an actual Gibson but that’s just me.
@abubakr6939
@abubakr6939 3 жыл бұрын
if you want a reissue of an actual vintage epiphone then a Gibson wouldn’t do
@bryonkidder6199
@bryonkidder6199 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing is ever perfect...lol Anytime you have 10 different people handling a product, someone is gonna leave their mark...lol Quality Control is breaks, dents, and scratches into the wood for the most part. You'd rather have a Gibson copy of an Epiphone than the real thing?...lol I'd rather have a 335, or 345, or 355 than a 330 anyway...lol
@rtxf
@rtxf 3 жыл бұрын
@@bryonkidder6199 lol lol lol lol lol lol lol are you done?
@garychambers5850
@garychambers5850 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryonkidder6199 John Lennon could've use a Gibson ES335, and I'm sure he tried one. But he preferred the Casino . George (Harrison) has a Gibson Es335, he uses one in the "Daytripper/We Can Work it Out Video. But that's not the guitar he used for the recording. He preferred the Casino over Gibson. 🎸🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️🎸
@SoundlabStudios63
@SoundlabStudios63 2 жыл бұрын
This guitar is made to be like when Epiphone was actually it’s own brand and not just a poor man’s Gibson
@alexanderherrera4019
@alexanderherrera4019 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a five watt world video when I saw the thumbnail lmao
@mannyfallout4540
@mannyfallout4540 3 жыл бұрын
same lol
@myoptik3x103
@myoptik3x103 3 жыл бұрын
Five Watt World is a great channel. Probably most Troglodytes have already checked it out, but maybe someone will get clued into it by your comment.
@HoneydewOz
@HoneydewOz Ай бұрын
Trogly that rattle around 16:00 is the pickup selector switch, the ones Gibson USA are using rattle in the middle position
@adamdarmstaedter1256
@adamdarmstaedter1256 3 жыл бұрын
I have an early 2000s Korean made Casino - the cherry & white one just like in the pic. I LOVE it. I just wish the neck was bit thicker. The P90s are HOT - nearly 12k each!
@paulcartwright2810
@paulcartwright2810 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto....I wish mine had weaker pickups..some of those Korean casinos are amazing...quality wise
@duanewelsh5611
@duanewelsh5611 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to have seen you compare this to a Elitist Casino from Japan. I have found the quality of those to be equal to or even better than a Gibson's.
@shreddyz
@shreddyz 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyola2205 Hey, that beaver was willing to make the move from Kalamazoo.
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyola2205 Agreed, I’ve spent some time with a 1980s Casino Masterbuilt Elitist MIJ and it was a superb instrument.
@jubei7259
@jubei7259 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to QC, you tend to find a consistently high benchmark with Japanese-made instruments in general. Their consumers are very demanding about quality standards.
@real_fjcalabrese
@real_fjcalabrese 3 жыл бұрын
The Elitist range was awesome, and I would love to see it make a return.
@LeviBulger
@LeviBulger 3 жыл бұрын
The MIJ elitist models and anything that came from the Peerless factory in Korea in the early 2000s. They all were crafted and played just as good or better than most Gibsons in their day.
@normansimpson5637
@normansimpson5637 3 жыл бұрын
Top 5 guitar related thing on KZbin. Consistently my favourite to watch!!!
@radrandall
@radrandall 3 жыл бұрын
That case is a reproduction of the case that Gibson shipped with the mid-60s Epiphone Casinos. It was grey with a blue interior, and very good quality. They are just trying to reproduce the old vibe. I have one from 1965.
@jaykaybi
@jaykaybi 3 жыл бұрын
At 12:31 those are sanding pigtails left by an orbital sander. It needs machine polishing carefully to remove them.
@Greg-vd5om
@Greg-vd5om 3 жыл бұрын
Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!
@pinball-wizard
@pinball-wizard 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve waited so long to see you review a Casino of some kind
@alexgarnett5373
@alexgarnett5373 3 жыл бұрын
Also notice that the inlays in the fretboard are backwards to vintage casinos
@joshtrotman1990
@joshtrotman1990 3 жыл бұрын
Noticed that, wonder if this was on purpose or the template got turned around? Come on Gibson!
@berfjerfy
@berfjerfy 4 ай бұрын
Wow, they still havent noticed yet.
@knedy
@knedy 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Epiphone Casino, you should try and get ahold of an *Epiphone Dwight Yoakam "Dwight Trash" Elitist Casino* they're made in japan so they're still higher end with US electronics. They got that Trini Lopez/Dave Grohl Firebird headstock except it's not the non-reverse Firebird headstock, really cool guitars! The white ones even got gold bindings like a Gretsch.
@TheBluesBear
@TheBluesBear 3 жыл бұрын
In 1975 I traded for a 1967 Epiphone ES230TD Casino in Pelham Blue. I played that guitar unti1999 when it was stolen. It had the notorious mystery buzz as well. It turned out to be the internal wiring vibrating against the top. Being completely hollow, the top on the 230/330 guitars vibrate more than the centerblock 3*5 series. The stairstep tailpiece you mentioned was actually called the "Frequensator" tailpiece and was standard in the Epiphone Riviera. My 230 actually had a Riviera headstock, complete with inlay.
@orneryhombre9078
@orneryhombre9078 Жыл бұрын
Ever find the buzz? Occurred to me the end piece of that tail piece assembly may not have been muted while your hand was on the larger portion, and still able to vibrate against the top.
@thomassawicki2065
@thomassawicki2065 3 жыл бұрын
I got an Elitist Casino in 2015, Made in Japan, it is as beautifully built as any Gibson. Custom Shop quality, and the tone is super good , intonation perfect. Cost ? $1500, I would never sell it for any amount. You could build a career around my Casino.' The nickel silver p'up covers are the ticket. Only a kook would put black plastic p'up covers on this guitar. I am so glad I got the elitist. I put a Black white Black pick guard on mine and it looks like a ES 330. Eye candy to the max. Shoots, I like the poly Finnish, sure Nitro is great , but the poly looks terrific and is way easier to take care of..
@jerrydelcannon9458
@jerrydelcannon9458 3 жыл бұрын
Hear, hear! (or is that here-here??) I have a 2007 Elitist Casino and it is STILL perfect.
@jonnybroomhead
@jonnybroomhead 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the nickel/chrome pickup covers
@tomcon21
@tomcon21 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the same case that came with the 2011 50th Anniversary Casino which I have and love!
@scottbogfoot
@scottbogfoot 3 жыл бұрын
That case is the same one used for the Epiphone Joe Bonamassa 355, it just doesn't have the writing on the front
@achodesign
@achodesign 3 жыл бұрын
On the Epiphone website's photo, the pickguard bracket of the Sunburst has only one screw, btw.
@markdouglas668
@markdouglas668 3 жыл бұрын
The dark one is not the Royal Tan, as you say at 10:12. It's the VS. The Royal Tan is so gorgeous! I have the Frequensator Bridge Riviera in that and it is an amazing instrument. I have a vintage '66 Riviera in RT and the present day Chinese Rivie has some marvelous crisp tones that the vintage one can't match. I also have many Inspired By John Lennon Casinos, a few 50th Anniversary Casinos and various Peerless era Korean Casinos. I would only get the new US made one if I thought it outdid the IBJL, which would amaze me, since the IBJL is basically a Gibson, in my humble over-invested opinion! I also have a '66 Casino in Natural with custom gold hardware. It has a warmth neither the Korean Peerless Casinos nor the Chinese Quindao ones can match. I wonder how this new US Casino stacks up to my vintage '66...
@MarioTorre
@MarioTorre 2 жыл бұрын
My Royal Tan has the same burst on the neck, I guess it’s part of the finish (and yes, it looks better in real life than in picture, wonderful guitar!)
@stephenewald4601
@stephenewald4601 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 50th Anniversary Casino from 2011 and it came with a grey case just like that one . China made guitar with US electronics - Case is from China too!
@smithcustomguitarco
@smithcustomguitarco 3 жыл бұрын
that buzzing - could be the little screw bolts on the top of the tailpiece. those can be tightened. sometimes on a hollowbody the pickup switch will rattle a little bit in the middle position. not much you can do about that.
@townshendshean
@townshendshean 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful guitars...BUT...I would send that thing back (with the scratched finish and chunk missing on the 1st fret of the fretboard). Totally unacceptable! Hell, I've got Gibson's that are many, many decades old and have been played the whole time that don't have such damage! Looks like the QC at Gibson is no better than the QC at Epiphone!. What the hell are they thinking!!!
@O-YAMA
@O-YAMA 3 жыл бұрын
Plus add that horrible buzz! I’d send it back immediately
@KakuraZenom
@KakuraZenom 3 жыл бұрын
QC at Epiphone is fine nowadays dude
@EJ_7715
@EJ_7715 3 жыл бұрын
I played one of these at sweetwater. They are incredible players.
@jameswallace5967
@jameswallace5967 2 жыл бұрын
Did you notice the trapazoid inlays are backwards compared to the origional vintage ones?
@G.GP.
@G.GP. 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the Casino Chinese made, please? Thanks in advance! Happy new year!!!
@mburtondavis
@mburtondavis 3 жыл бұрын
New camera? This episode looks super HD.
@Briansm15
@Briansm15 3 жыл бұрын
15:27 funny you mention the buzzing sound i have one of the epiphone casino worn in olive drab green and I had guitar center set up my bridge and it fixed that buzzing sound at least for me but the only problem i really have is constant feedback
@angrymike6759
@angrymike6759 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any thoughts on the 2016 les paul sunken treasure limited run ???
@gwawd
@gwawd Жыл бұрын
A very nice review, thanks! Is there a DC readings difference between plastic- and metal-covered pickups?
@KeganVanSickle
@KeganVanSickle 3 жыл бұрын
I think the buzz around the 15 minute 40 second mark were the saddle screws vibrating, possibly.
@Sorakorra
@Sorakorra 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what's the neck angle on it. Especially since it's made in the USA factory
@waynegilchrist1596
@waynegilchrist1596 3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I watched this video. I had thought about the USA Epiphones but this definitely makes my decision much easier - No Decision Necessary - hands down; the QC sucks and nothing inpressed me! I would go full Gibson instead of this! Yet I am leaning towards other brands. I ordered a, "solid body" Gibson a few years ago and it has been great but the hard case I paid so much more money for wasn't a Gibson at all but an Epiphone case! They didn't make my complaint good so I am soured already. I had a early 50's Epiphone and didn't have the sense to keep it. Comparing this review with a friend's much cheaper foreign model, I'd have to copy him. Gibson has a real problem with QC! Get it back right if you want to continue being a preferred brand!
@stevehammer781
@stevehammer781 3 жыл бұрын
TY for the Show & Tell demo. I was waiting for a good demo on the USA version. I was hoping for a remake of the early 60s Sunburst but apparently not. Oddly, my '14 Chinese Casino is the closest remake - it has the same "plastic-y" feel as the US version but the Chinese model has the period correct frequensator tail piece, metal P90 covers, and "e" truss rod cover that the US remake does not have. And my Chinese version does NOT have the finish issues thats the US remake has on yours. On the flip side, the US has the correct stain on the back and beautiful neck where as my Chinese version has the sunburst finish on the side/back which is not correct on the '60s version. And the pickups on my Chinese version are just slightly hotter than the US version so I prefer the pickups in the US version as the electronics are superior. Is the US verision $2k better? Beauty/Functionality of the US Epi vs Chinese Epi is in the eye of the beholder.
@jeremiahMc11
@jeremiahMc11 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the toggle switch vibrates when in the center position on hollow bodies.
@alinchitown7556
@alinchitown7556 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of stuff gone wrong for $2700 the chip in the fret board totally unacceptable. Love the fact it’s USA made but man QC is awful. Thanks again Trog for the review. BTW your playing is coming along since I first subscribed. Keep it up.
@michaelmcclelland2896
@michaelmcclelland2896 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. What was going on that day at the shop where they didn’t play it or even look it over???
@michaelmcclelland2896
@michaelmcclelland2896 3 жыл бұрын
How much does one of these cost?
@michaelmcclelland2896
@michaelmcclelland2896 3 жыл бұрын
Why aren’t Gibson bursting the backs of these??
@michaelmcclelland2896
@michaelmcclelland2896 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of money for permanent fuckups. Like bad stain and no qc.
@michaelmcclelland2896
@michaelmcclelland2896 3 жыл бұрын
@@keithschneidly3922 I see. Thanks for clarifying. I was just saying in general you never know with this brand. I feel like I’m lucky with my sg. Nothing fancy. Just a standard, but flawless. Well, Used to be.
@jaziferret1138
@jaziferret1138 Жыл бұрын
Ngl I gasped at that lighter finish on the second casino, I love that.
@markmccawley2526
@markmccawley2526 3 жыл бұрын
Are the American Epiphones used as a training line for new employees?
@alexparsa8330
@alexparsa8330 3 жыл бұрын
You should try reviewing the usa revolution john lennon model. Not the inspired by but the revolution one.
@garypiggot1188
@garypiggot1188 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the video on this American Casino. Informative. I have a Korean 90s Casino..in Heather Mist, like the Gibson Firebirds. Told its very rare. Not a fan at first...but it grew on me. Keep up the good reviews. G.
@alanshewitt
@alanshewitt 3 жыл бұрын
My man, the buzz is the pickup selector switch. At least that’s what it is on my Custom Shop 330. Only when in the middle position, though.
@The_Furless
@The_Furless 3 жыл бұрын
For me it’s usually a saddle on a those types of bridges that buzzes. Like one saddle will be rocking side to side cause it’s too small so it just rocks. I got rid it by moving the saddle forward or backwards until the wiggling stopped.
@es330
@es330 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1965 Gibson ES330 and it has the same buzz on the middle position. Little rattles come and go in other places frequently and I don't mind at all. You never hear that stuff while plugged in. It also has cosmetic flaws; I love it. These Epiphones look fine; the real test is how do they sound when plugged in? I'd love to try one to find out.
@ericstevens7041
@ericstevens7041 3 жыл бұрын
The buzz was the switch on my USA Casino, as well. I solved it in just a couple minutes.
@mattsharaykomusic
@mattsharaykomusic 9 ай бұрын
@@ericstevens7041 how exactly did you solve it? My USA Casino switch buzzes and it drives me crazy haha (I often play unplugged as well as plugged in)
@joetheman74
@joetheman74 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but this guitar sounds AMAZING! You can tell you are feeling it just by the way you are playing. WOW. Something special about that one.
@ArmanBaig
@ArmanBaig 3 жыл бұрын
As a huge beatle fan I’m so glad they made these. The vintages are too expensive and the imports from a few years ago are reportedly shoddy in terms of playability. Just wish the first had the chrome pickups
@s2seltaeb
@s2seltaeb 3 жыл бұрын
And they need to fix the inlays and the Headstock.
@bojackhorseman5367
@bojackhorseman5367 3 жыл бұрын
What i find about the imports is the reason for the 'shoddy' playability is the nut and the frets are usually badly finished and require some professional attention - but if you get the nut replaced and the frets properly leveled and crowned by a competent tech you'll have a great playing guitar still at the fraction of the cost of a USA guitar.
@glass_oni0n
@glass_oni0n 3 жыл бұрын
chrome pickups, and a natural finish option lol…my only question is do I hold out for when they inevitably put that out?
@tubetone74
@tubetone74 2 жыл бұрын
Are the chrome pickups w/ covers or one just piece? Years ago I bought some "chrome" looking plastic P-90 covers. Don't know if they are still being made.
@henrydiaz720
@henrydiaz720 2 жыл бұрын
They've cleaned up their act on that. That makes these allegedly "made in usa" models useless, except for making you pay twice as much for a label. And look at all the faults! The imports are flawless! As I say, f*ck gibson.
@coreylawrence3904
@coreylawrence3904 2 жыл бұрын
The buzz is the three way selector. My Casino does the same thing when in the middle position. Switch to the neck or bridge and it goes away.
@ronnie5129
@ronnie5129 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Trogly, i love your channel, i Must ask this, What is the Best Guitar that you have Examined out of the Box, Thanks , Cousin Figel
@marccarter1350
@marccarter1350 7 ай бұрын
Both of my other seas Casinos had a better QC. But i watched this video 7 times, then bought the USA made model. Zero regrets. Thanks for the great review 🙂
@billkyle1056
@billkyle1056 3 жыл бұрын
How much difference overall are these Gibson made products compared to the Epi Import models? They are a serious price difference so at what point does the diminished return aspect apply?
@arazos9394
@arazos9394 3 жыл бұрын
5:00 that case hangin halfway off the desk is freakin me out
@guitfidle
@guitfidle 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooo fancy!! 2 things- I wonder if that buzz is the pickguard where it sits on the dogears? And did you try the other one plugged in? I'm really curious if the metal cover changes the sounnd much. In theory it should, like putting a metal cover on a humbucker.
@seanhammer6296
@seanhammer6296 3 жыл бұрын
Was there any difference in the sound between the two, with the different pickup covers? I like the lighter one and would like to have heard it.
@michaelleybon2100
@michaelleybon2100 3 жыл бұрын
The buzz that you’re hearing is in fact the bridge piece. it’s also a common issue in the import model casinos even with the wire placed on the bridge.
@subrosablues
@subrosablues 3 жыл бұрын
The buzz may be the switch tip (or the switch itself), it happens occasionally on my 330.
@Moreno280161
@Moreno280161 Жыл бұрын
Hi, what pickup would you put on an Epiphone Casino? you know I took one of the Chinese ones and I would like to improve it a bit thanks
@glennrisnes
@glennrisnes 2 жыл бұрын
The new USA Casino is a Masterpiece Guitar.. Trogly might have got a prototype or something.. But, mine is flawless in every way.. Custom Shop Build quality! Love it!
@robertbecker6903
@robertbecker6903 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great video!! Very detailed and you captured the tone that I have been seeking for so long. I tried the chinese Casinos and the Gary Clark Jr. Blak and Blue but they didn’t sound like yours. Please, I couldn’t find any info about the amp you recorded with. Or is it a something like a Kemper? Cheers, Rob
@ios6605
@ios6605 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a video putting on the chrome P 90 pick up covers on the other model 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 🚬😎 👍🏼 💨 💨 💨
@dalenixon1947
@dalenixon1947 3 жыл бұрын
Why are the inlays upside down compared to vintage models and the asian made ones?
@charlespiper9291
@charlespiper9291 2 жыл бұрын
I had an ES345 in the early 70s in one of those 60s style Epiphone Grey Cases! Why can’t Gibson put the proper control knobs on the vintage reissues?
@magicrising
@magicrising 3 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to check action height at the 12th in the reviews please?
@andoros.7017
@andoros.7017 3 жыл бұрын
buzz mightve been coming from the pickup selector switch. when my casino's is in the middle position its a little loose and buzzes .
@GrayEdenfield
@GrayEdenfield 3 жыл бұрын
The grey case is vintage correct for Epiphone.
@DanielDiaz-xv5je
@DanielDiaz-xv5je 3 жыл бұрын
Does the case smells Gibson Vanilla or does it has a different or no smell what so ever?
@MrSmiley1964
@MrSmiley1964 3 жыл бұрын
I've wanted a Casino forever, it's always been the guitar I forget about when I'm buying guitars for some reason. But seeing that dark burst has me GASing hard for that one. After 45 years it just might happen.
@Siggy_Sour
@Siggy_Sour Жыл бұрын
Sounds great! hope they keep it up and do the coronets and Olympics.
@cpnms5
@cpnms5 3 жыл бұрын
Any plans on reviewing the Alex Lifeston epi les paul?
@Mauitaoist
@Mauitaoist 2 ай бұрын
Of my 20 guitars two of them are Epiphone and they're fantastic I have a custom shop Les Paul junior in TV yellow and a Casino Coupe vintage sunburst
@colinbriber1053
@colinbriber1053 Жыл бұрын
It's been two years but I think the buzz is the pickup selector switch. My Casino buzzes the same way.
@drewgraysonxoxopanda
@drewgraysonxoxopanda 8 ай бұрын
Gibson ES models & Epiphone USA collection Casino both cost $3499 right now. You get a Gibsin ES-335 in Satin for $2999.
@queenhenryviii
@queenhenryviii 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how it compares to the '65 Elitist model? A couple years ago -having spent numerous years with the standard casino - I made the leap to the '65 reissue (Elitist? Really?) which unexpectedly made my standard model more or less, obsolete (it's my open G guitar). They're not part of what I call, The Beatles Series, instead its a true reissue of the casino's from 1965 model. It's absolutely amazing. So amazing that I can't.... imagine... how they could make the casino even better.
@LikeMarmaladeSkies
@LikeMarmaladeSkies 2 жыл бұрын
So, I too made the leap to the Elitist and is is absolutely stunning so don’t need to tell you how great they are. But I’ve now played two USA Casinos and here are my observations: The USA hasn’t got such a loud and acoustic resonance that my Elitist has - it’s close… but the USA feels tighter and almost like a centre-blocked ES-335. The materials are premium quality and the grains on the front and back are dazzling. The playability is similar, but the USA neck is wider and you can feel a little more tension in your hand muscles.. whereas the Elitist is slimmer and easier to travel. The build quality is spit between the two for a host of reasons… firstly, the VS finish on the USA is nicer and more premium looking. It looks more balanced and vibrant in every style of lighting. Whereas my Elitist can look too yellow or the sunburst grading isn’t gentle enough in certain lighting. However, both the USA examples had matte black paint inside the F-holes that hid the ply-construction (which looks thicker) - but the inner surfaces needing sanding otherwise if you ran you fingers through the F-holes you’d most certainly get a splinter… Plugged in though, the USA just had an extra 20% of character in the tone. More sustain, more girth, more everything. Just sounded better - few people sat and watched me play it because of how good it sounded! But returning home to see my Elitist was a welcoming sight as mine looks identical to Lennon’s which is important to me. Those USA ones won’t match any of the Beatles’ one due to their irregular design alterations. Also, the Elitist just feels more comfortable to play and flawless in terms of QC. My final verdict is the USA ones are fantastic and look so so unique. I want one very much and could see myself owning one soon and keeping it indefinitely.
@DJCJ999
@DJCJ999 5 ай бұрын
I bought the olive drab Cass last year but I have discovered I love the casino model... now I wonder if I should buy the next model up for around 600 or the USA made Casino for 2500£?! hard decision.
@ronnierazor4302
@ronnierazor4302 3 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of the Casino more than the 330 Lovell.... What amp are you using? I even like the dirt on the bridge pu!
@nelsonmann
@nelsonmann 3 жыл бұрын
the string buzz is probably coming from a loose washer on the tuning pegs. thats what it sounds like to me at least.
@EndResultAudio
@EndResultAudio 3 жыл бұрын
In regards to the rattle at 16 minutes, that sounds just like my 330. On mine it is the pickup selector. Pushing the switch to the left or right stops it for a while.
@jpnjen9416
@jpnjen9416 3 жыл бұрын
Serial number on the headstock says 56th day of 2021, i.e Feb 25. Pickups are dated 3/5/21, i.e. 64th day. What gives?
@aipsong
@aipsong 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video! I have an Epiphone Granada circa 1967, made in Kalamazoo - I removed the hideous pickguard and had a luthier cut a second f-hole and make a pickup mount out of rosewood - sweet guitar.
@HiFiMonki
@HiFiMonki 3 жыл бұрын
I know what the buzz could be. I had an old Washburn semi hollow and it had the same problem. It turned out it was the pickup wires running to the pots resting on the top of the guitar. So when I strummed the top would vibrate against the wires and make a noise. I put a piece of tape inside and taped he wires to the top and it stopped the buzz.
@Tripple-L432
@Tripple-L432 3 жыл бұрын
You said when you first looked at it you werent really convinced. It didnt look like a Gibson. It jus shows how our perception of brand affiliation sets standards you look for ,Knowing this is not a Gibson but looking to see how much its like one, as We do Heritage and Eastman and etc..... Its a very well made Instrument from a legend company that has its own sound and place in History,Like everything else. What`s it worth to ya, I would settle for a cheaper model myself but I believe those Guitars are worth what their asking. imo... Thanks Trogly,,Long time follower..Much love..
@mikefusco3282
@mikefusco3282 3 жыл бұрын
Sold me on the sound demo. Wow… even distorted, what a great tone. Im a big fan of both brands, but wanted to hear a good tone review of this (I’m in the same boat as far as finish- vintage burst looks better than the clown burst, but the chrome pickup covers 🤤🤤🤤) Been waiting a long time for this review, amazing job!
@ericstevens7041
@ericstevens7041 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a Royal Tan for about three months now, and it looks much better than this video. It's too saturated. While the video looks like it goes from orange to red, in reality it goes from a light amber to a light burnt orange.
@animateangus
@animateangus 3 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance, I’m kinda new to the guitar market, but why am I seeing some Casino’s priced under £500 and then others over a £1k, despite these not being vintage models? Probably a dumb question but is it the pickups/material quality?
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