For those who care for environmental issues, Trolleybuses are the best. I'd say more than electric buses on battery. ( when you know how is battery made of ).
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
There is currently a shortage of batteries in the world and the price of electronic buses is rising
@user-df3ty8ei2u3 жыл бұрын
Some trolleybuses still have lithium ion batteries so what you said is not that true. Others also have diesel engines in case of outages
@lionec2263 жыл бұрын
@@user-df3ty8ei2u sure but you may have noticed I never said 'perfect'.
@user-df3ty8ei2u3 жыл бұрын
@@lionec226 yea, so?
@lionec2263 жыл бұрын
@@user-df3ty8ei2u so I'm not wrong.🤷🏻♂️
@garryej3 жыл бұрын
I had a friend who was a bus mechanic in Vancouver BC. He could always tell when the trolley bus drivers had been racing, since the motor brushes would be heavily arced. Usually took place in the wee wee hours between the bus and some kid in a muscle car. The kids were always shocked at the massive instant torque these buses could create from the 550v wires!
@Wpdhsx3 жыл бұрын
600v
@trainrover Жыл бұрын
@@Wpdhsx must've been facilitating whistleblowing...
@rykmat2542 Жыл бұрын
Busses in this video operate under 600 V or 750 V. And they have asynchronous (induction, brushless) motors. Solaris Trollino 15 (the world's only 15 metres nonarticulated trolleybus, you can see it at time 11:33) has a 175 kW six-pole asynchronous motor with a torque of 4500 Nm.
@MDCrabTank6 ай бұрын
@@rykmat2542 It is not only in the world, škoda 28tr is also 15m long trolleybus
@Computer8956 ай бұрын
But isn't the solrais 15 and skoda 28tr the same thing
@JohnnyOU08 Жыл бұрын
I wish we had more of these in the U.S. It seems like it would be a cost-effective way to tackle a lot of our transit and environmental issues that integrates well with our existing infrastructure.
@GalenlevyPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Seattle, Wa still have the trolley buses. They’re not getting rid of it anytime soon. They are great for the hills. They accelerate fast going uphill!
@lzh49503 жыл бұрын
Think trolleybuses make engineering sense for the Nat'l University of Singapore (NUS)'s shuttle buses too, given it's rugged terrain (the main campus is built on Kent Ridge). Only possible challenges I can think of is justifying the cost of the overhead wires (since bus utilisation drops sharply during weekends and university vacation (Dec & mid May-Aug)) & figuring out how to maintain the buses (the diesel shuttle buses we currently have are serviced off-site at the operator's (ComfortDelgro) HQ some ~10km away, and extending the overhead wires to there probably won't be cost effective) but given how far away the HQ is (& thus the length of dead mileage needed by the buses to go there for servicing) & the substantial fleet size of the buses (32x), I guess there can be enough justification to set up on-site maintenance facilities too (also as trolley buses have simpler drivetrains than diesel buses)
@janpavelek20973 жыл бұрын
Yes, i write IT in aby other answer, DC electric motors have ideally componed Force avd visit , matematically P = F x v, thé in all mountains they have many force, when all diesel! And those do not eat aby oxygen, what Is on thé mountains problém fór diesel. I hope Good future fór trolleybuses. And with dually trolley And battery power iare still more using.
@mikegaskin55423 жыл бұрын
@@lzh4950 Battery backups are good enough these days that they can easily propel the trolleybus over the 10km needed to get to the maintenance facility
@michalandrejmolnar37152 жыл бұрын
@@lzh4950 Trolleybuses can have small batteries for going into the depot or other routes. Can be charged while driving on trolley wires.
@CZpersi7 ай бұрын
That is actually, why some hilly cities chose trolleys over trams.
@billtuckwell13993 жыл бұрын
On hills Trolley buses give formula 1 performance that beat any diesel bus. Pollution free, and also the advantage that on route extensions duo vehicles do not need new overhead. Electric traction at its best. Thank you for the video.
@randomweeb69973 жыл бұрын
You don't need to be on hills. Just give it some distance between the stops and a clean road.
@janpavelek20973 жыл бұрын
Yes, IT Is in thé technical power in electric motors, what Is ideally componed fór thé vehicles. Matematický power Is combination od thé visit And force. In the everyday regulared power in thé Hills Slow visit generare more force in thé rotor And car have more force. In Otto And Diesel motorest IT Is NOT And driver must change thé feat gtade! In this fact Trolleybus Is BETTEER to formule F1 in accelerate feom all stations And stop points!!!
@automation72952 жыл бұрын
Trolleybus can still make pollution, but less than battery buses. But I agree, trolleybuses are better than battery buses, trolley buses are generally better for the environment.
@FASr72 жыл бұрын
Exactly kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4XHkJ2hh8SgnaM
@keithparker13467 ай бұрын
I assume they are the best form of public transport for hilly areas. I used to live near Lausanne, Switzerland and they are used there and the whole city seems to be in a huge hill
@andyhughes5885 Жыл бұрын
Europe never gave up its trams and trolleybuses unlike here in Scotland. Yes, trams are back but, only in Edinburgh and limited at that. We do now have battery buses. I would love to see the old trams making a comeback even trolleybuses and those ones in Switzerland look more like trains than buses.
@warmike3 жыл бұрын
If you show this to the Moscow mayor he'll have a heart attack
@niol_vserio3 жыл бұрын
yes
@albertbenajam47513 жыл бұрын
If you research MOSCOW situation where largest TB system in world eliminated. All regular service TBs were less than 8 years old. See articles on internet about Moscow corruption.
@edward280519893 жыл бұрын
Sao Paulo (Brazil) desatictived half TB system
@diterbolen93013 жыл бұрын
@@albertbenajam4751 И правильно сделали! Через 5 лет будете только на электробусах ездить
@trainzandplanes5223 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@ricktownend91443 жыл бұрын
What a great video! You made your point... It's a shame trolley-buses are sometimes seen as old-tech; this selection shows that's not true. I've heard it said that they are limited to the wires, so are inflexible, but that's not true for new trolley+battery buses. In any case, sticking to the wires is great in at least one way - you know it's not going to divert from the route (e.g. late at night). And people like trolley-buses! I think the main disadvantage is political - companies and city councils will not save up for replacement of wiring etc., but wait until someone (the European Commission etc.) will give them a dollop of money to do it - otherwise they scrap the system.
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Big thanks! Exactly said.
@michalandrejmolnar37152 жыл бұрын
Please don't permit them to scrap it, especially if they're just going to replace them with diesel or gas powered buses.
@kacper_k68663 жыл бұрын
Trolleybuses in Linz look like as trams. Insane.
@hilldoggydogg6353 жыл бұрын
Eastern European bus drivers go Mach10. It's in their blood, when I worked for Translink I also went mach 10, but so did almost everyone else. Only problem with new trolleys is they govern out at 60km/h or lower, older ones you could do 75 downhill.
@justaguy92242 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly. I’m from Hungary and I ride trolleybuses regularly. In some sections they accelerate from standstill to 70 km/h in seconds and then brake hard for the next station, and the stations are spaced 300 meters apart.
@williamhuang83098 ай бұрын
Translink BC? I remember being quite curious about the trolleybus wires and how they worked. They look quite cool
@TTan6663 жыл бұрын
Didn't know there are these even longer double-articulated trolleybuses out there in this world before I saw this. Thanks for uploading.
@iamclinicallysick65052 жыл бұрын
Love it
@markusstudeli2997 Жыл бұрын
The double-articulated ones are indeed impressive to watch. I see the Hess model in Bern regularly on my commute. They have almost the same capacity as the trams.
@himbourbanist Жыл бұрын
The double-articulated buses are a sight to behold. Really cool feats of engineering, and their impressive capacity is absolutely welcome to the commuter. Combine that without overhead wires and they're a wonderful transit addition to any city.
@MrGintaras Жыл бұрын
Do you want a second part : Trolleybus is not slow? 😏
@markusstudeli2997 Жыл бұрын
Sure! Please also cover smaller cities like Nancy, Limoges or Biel-Bienne
@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter10 ай бұрын
Nope, it is slow.
@MrGintaras10 ай бұрын
@@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter it means busses also are slow
@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter10 ай бұрын
@@MrGintaras yeah, especially if they don't have any dedicated lines.
@darleydasilvamonte50243 жыл бұрын
In São Paulo (Brazil) there is also a trolleybus system, especially in the central region and in the eastern part of the city. Some of them have autonomous gait. On route 2290 you are having a detour and are using batteries.
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Great, Maybe I will visit this distant land in the future
@himbourbanist Жыл бұрын
man trolleybuses are so cool, we have them here in the US in Philadelphia. There used to be a lot more routes that ran them but a lot have been replaced by diesel over the years.
@lineboss58 Жыл бұрын
Its an absolute scandal that some cities are getting rid of trolley buses in favour of battery buses, when we all know the dangers involved with batteries as well as reduced efficiency at extreme temperatures.
@ГеоргиТрифонов-и8з3 жыл бұрын
For big cities with traffic,trolleybuses are actually better than regular busses(im not talking about zero emissions of CO2) As trolleybuses have better acceleration
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Really yes! Many European cities are planning to build a trolleybus network from 0, or replace buses with trolleybuses
@fidenemini1113 жыл бұрын
They also are better for uphill ride.
@jakubadamczyk15233 жыл бұрын
For big cities with traffic trams are being used ;)
@janpavelek20973 жыл бұрын
Hallo, more od thé cities have aby trolleybus lines more 100 years And they was still modernised. And when thé concrently city publicista transport systems take to peoples good And often connecting, them they must NOT také own car. And in this fact easr cities in the Europa was better. And I know cities, where Oldřich trolley systems was destroyed And after many years thats was built AGAIN!
@rykmat2542 Жыл бұрын
@@jakubadamczyk1523 Prague builds both new tram and partial trolley bus routes. Prague lies in a system of canyons so there are a lot of steep hill climbs that destroy batteries in battery buses and are too steep for trams so there are overhead wires an absolute necessity.
@ELC20243 жыл бұрын
Best video on trolleybuses in KZbin...I love trolleybuses
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@majlo4430 Жыл бұрын
Last year when i was in Lublin, Poland it was so much fun to see Trollino 18 was faster than BMW when the lights has changed from red to green:D The face of the driver was speachless haha:D
@TheCzolgista1233 жыл бұрын
Nice video :) Here in Lublin trolleybuses move with considerable speed especially when going back to bus depot without passengers :p
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, on the way home you need to get back to the park as soon as possible. It’s a shame in my city, even when we drive to the park, we have to stop at schedules.
@TheCzolgista1233 жыл бұрын
@@MrGintaras Here we have some "linie zjazdowe" - exit lines when going back to the depot, also for trolleybuses, but not every vehicle realises it. I often see buses and trolleybuses with no line sign on display or with "zjazd do zajezdni" - "on the way to depot" in the city going fast ;)
@MrRatchet12661 Жыл бұрын
@@TheCzolgista123 Szkoda że nie spotykane jest to w Gdyni lub Sopocie. Nie wiem jak w Tychach ale jeżeli są przystanki przy bazach autobusowych czy nawet zajezdniach tramwajowych (np. w Gdańsku do Nowego Portu linia chyba 6 właśnie jedzie do zajezdni) to czemu nie tak? Może to służyć jako linia ekspresowa na żądanie.
@user-df3ty8ei2u Жыл бұрын
@@MrRatchet12661 w gdyni są linie zjazdowe (710 i 723)
@Adrenaline_chaser2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to mobility, the level of sustainability goes like this: 1)electric train (the most sustainable) 2) electric tram/streetcar 3) trolleybus 4) diesel train 5) electric bus 6) normal bus etc.. Trolleybuses come off 3rd! These wonderful machines deserve more attention!!
@theofficialgolyafekete7 ай бұрын
The first one just straight up looks like a tram💀
@albertbenajam47513 жыл бұрын
The VIEWPOINT FROM BELOW, of a CK system starting at 2:00 after highway seguence is the "Money Shot" as it shows that poles tracking through complicated crossing at SPEED possible. KZbin also has view down Market Street where TB lines share the HOT wire with pole using PCC trams.
@marcelcharbonnier2974 ай бұрын
I have always appreciated the trolleybuses and tramways. The city I was born in, Saint-Étienne (in France) have always kept them meanwhile other French cities opted for buses starting from the 1950s. But the trams are making their come-back even in Paris and its suburbs. For me, they are a part of the animation and the atmosphere of a city.
@zaferyurt77033 жыл бұрын
In Malatya city in Turkey, TRAMBÜS (Trolleybus) the test because they are going-to 70% faster than the highway.
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
It would be interested to see!
@twinvideoproduction96622 жыл бұрын
Excellent video to show the advantages of trolleybuses in many aspects of view. Based on my personal experience, the worst are the obsolete, not properly maintained or installed overhead wires, switches and crossings. Running a modern trolleybus under these circumstances would defeat all positive aspects. There are still places where this is visible and where the modern overhead technologies originated in Switzerland did not find its place.
@موسى_73 жыл бұрын
I see why people call the cables ugly. In a busy street like a commercial street in London they would actually be a welcome sight, but not between those cute houses in Brno, Czechia.
@CreatorPolar3 жыл бұрын
Interesting definition of cute you got there
@KoichiFirst80923 жыл бұрын
I was born in Murmansk, a Russian city with the northernmost trolleybus system in the world. I also remember the trolleybus ride in Tallinn, which was on 2 August 2017. The trolleybus type was the same as at 5:15, but with number 344 and on line 5.
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
I visited Tallinn in 2018
@Lorens4444 Жыл бұрын
Murmansk is the "Northernmost Everything" of the world. XD
@eblechman13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I love trolley buses! They're eco-friendly and quiet. I'm sure that my opinion here is most unusual, but I actually like the overhead wires, particularly in suburban tree lined streets; I suspect that the wires suggest ("unconsciously" to me ) that the city iwhich operates the trolley bus network is "advanced", having good educational, health and cultural facilities. In New Zealand, where trolley buses were found in most cities in the middle of the 20th century, Wellington was the last city to cease operating them in 2017. In South Africa, trolley busses opearted in Cape Town, Pretoria, Durban and Johannesburg which was the last city in the country to end trolley bus operations in the late 80s.
@michalandrejmolnar37152 жыл бұрын
Really a shame these went away. Trolleybuses are very ecological
@jorge1212723 жыл бұрын
I think, it's very good idea to do this video, to see the recently and speed trolleybus ! Thank you.
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
And from different countries and cities
@Juliukas1015 ай бұрын
Yes, the trolleybuses in Zirmunu g are very fast, particularly past Tuskulenu p, Minties and Siaures Miestelis. The road is very straight and generally quite fast. It gets a bit slower after the round concrete paminklas.
@trainrover Жыл бұрын
I remember Canadian trollies taking thrice as long at negotiating junctions than similar fleets did around CRAZILY hilly Frisco...
@Wpdhsx3 жыл бұрын
In Vancouver BC Canada, the trolley buses go through switches at 8 km/hr and intersections with overhead at 15 km/hr to prevent overhead damage and/or pulling the overhead down.
@user-df3ty8ei2u3 жыл бұрын
Damn thats slow af. In my eastern european city they just go full speed thru it
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Yeee minimum 30-35km/h
@Phil-oj5nr5 ай бұрын
Well New Zealand joined the “no trolleybuses” group in 2017, when the Wellington Regional Council claimed it would cost $50 million (NZ) to renew the overhead, but never produced any figures to back their claim. The buses themselves were only seven to eight years old, and in very good order. As the city of Wellington is very hilly, trolleys were ideal on the hill routes. The Regional council said we are replacing all the diesel buses with battery-electric buses over the next few years. It is now 2024, and only about a third of the Wellington bus fleet is battery-electric. Chris Laidlaw was the Chairman of the Regional Council at the time. I wonder what his interests were in stopping the trolleys?
@tigrovica84173 жыл бұрын
This is the *EPIC* content I watch youtube for! Thanks for the upload *Gintaras*
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Big thank you , Tigrovica!
@I_drink_cocoa_with_rum3 жыл бұрын
Found you again, by the trolleybusses
@tigrovica84173 жыл бұрын
@@I_drink_cocoa_with_rum I cannot feel safe under any comment section now xd
@flyhigh60883 жыл бұрын
2:31 typical sound of Czech TB accelerating - I like it
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Oh ye missing this sound. Video from 2018
@samantos3 жыл бұрын
There are many areas with speed limits in Kyiv: slopes (steeps & gently), overpasses or slopes by overpasses.
@traxx5612 Жыл бұрын
Here in Budapest, the hilly part of the city (Buda) has no trolleybuses, but instead, bus lines like 29 are suffering to start from the stops that are placed on the steep parts, drivers are flooring the buses but they still go like 15 until the end of the steep part... 29 could be better as a trolleybus, since they can start really powerful even on steep parts, and it sure is more efficient to use trolleybuses and start easier than flooring the Citaro (diesel bus, runs a lot on 29) and still suffering to get to 15 km/h
@YelonkyPL3 жыл бұрын
Wow. It's always a great pleasure to watch your videos. And you've visited and filmed so many cities! Thanx for your proffesional work at these materials.
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Huge thank you!
@samantos3 жыл бұрын
Anyway the limit is 60-65 km/h. The speed of passing special sections (switches, intersections) is more important.
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
The most important thing is that the speed is close to the speed of the bus
@samantos3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGintaras Buses can break the rules and move faster than the permitted speed.
@user-df3ty8ei2u3 жыл бұрын
@@samantos depends where you live.
@CZpersi7 ай бұрын
Trolleys are actually much more nimble than regular busses. They have great acceleration, less need to switch gears and offer smooth ride when in top speed. The city only needs to maintain the roads very well, because the trolleys are much more sensitive to bumps and damaged sections. Too much vibrations may cause them to lose wire connection, forcing the driver to either switch to battery mode or go outside to reconnect.
@MrGintaras7 ай бұрын
in most Europe cities on wire parts can move about 30-50km/h (wire crossing , wire swiches)
@camotech13143 жыл бұрын
I wish there were trolleybusses in the UK
@FiqFake1573 жыл бұрын
Trolleybus should have their own dedicated lane like BRT, plus, it has "trolley" in it
@AlexShutyuk2 жыл бұрын
Nice video) Watched with pleasure)
@greenleafyman10282 жыл бұрын
Is it a train?, no! A tram? No What is it? It is a spiderman version of a bus
@lrt_unimog83163 жыл бұрын
Belfast missed an opportunity with the Gliders!
@holtovhond3 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the Russia((( in Saint Petersburg we have trolleybuses that can actually move like a bus (i can give you a link)
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see. I hope infuture visit some Russian cities , then it will be possible.
@holtovhond3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGintaras ok then, here is a small video (btw, these trolleybuses have a very satisfying sound to hear) kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZTblI17mb6Dd7s
@renaultlp3 жыл бұрын
I love Brno, i love our very old old old OLD trolleybuses :)
@albertbenajam47513 жыл бұрын
Old style 0verHead creates NEEDLESS TURNING CHOKEPOINTS, apart from those created by othet causes. Trolly Bus shines in any Hilly areas, that motor buses forced to crawl up in low gear, and pure battery buses over drain. Modern combination TBs can use use Charge In Motion too permit routes that have lengthy 15 - 20 KM Wire Gaps in routes, but can be run all day due to CIM on each trip. The CIM system means no wires in Historic section, or residential area or highways. Battery operation also eliminated Tram crossing complication. Incidentally, one problem with Diesel buses TBs tint have is ROAD KNUCKLIN. Smooth electric acceleration from stops doesn't do it, but GEAR SHIFTING on motor buses leaving stops created a series of bumbs and depressions, resembling knuckes of hand
@jakobwinder36874 ай бұрын
Nice to see my hometown Linz in a video!
@jesusse97573 жыл бұрын
El trolebus es un magnífico sistema de transporte. Muy buen vídeo Saludos. 👍👏👏👏👋👋
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias! Espero que en el futuro sea más fácil viajar a España en unos años!
@malbecmikegrey996 Жыл бұрын
This is not new. As a kid, I lived in North London near the steep Highgate Hill. I saw (and rode on) double-deck trolleybuses overtaking cars on the way up. By the way, this route was converted to diesel buses (which didn't have the pace) in 1960. and the trolleybuses dated back to the late 1930s.
@MrGintaras Жыл бұрын
I hope one day trolleybus will back
@dancedecker3 жыл бұрын
There were stories in UK back.in.the late fifties and early sixties, that certainly in London, a trolleybus would and often could, burn off an E type Jag from a standing start. Admittedly the Jag would soon catch it up, but whereas even a sports car has to build up its speed, the trolleybus's is all there, all the time, ready to go. Not sure how true it was, but I see no reason why it wasn't possible. And after seeing this, it could probably be even more true today. Perhaps a challenge for Mr May and Mr Clarkson? Lol.
@Nazir-WalkAroundTheCity3 жыл бұрын
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@spythere3 жыл бұрын
One thing I don't like about trolleybuses are those ugly electrical lines above ground, at least in Poland. In case of trams they are more tidy and don't stick out. As long as I like trolleybuses as a transport mean, those line nets are polluting the view. In Poland we got three major cities where you can encounter them: Lublin, Tychy, Gdynia and Sopot (the last two come together as the Tricity with Gdańsk so I count them as one) and they are equally ruining how they look for me.
@Majkl.3 жыл бұрын
Guys, I dont know how about you, but my favorite trolleybusv is škoda 14tr and 15tr.
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Same
@filipkotrba74183 жыл бұрын
very interesting and super video!
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@RomaniaOverpowered3 жыл бұрын
Awman, I recognized so many models we have/had! Amazing!
@povilasstaniulis94843 жыл бұрын
While they require infrastructure to support them, in the long run, trolleys are probably cheaper and more environmentally friendly to run than electric buses. At least right now, the situation may change in the future.
@Lolwutfordawin2 жыл бұрын
Seattle has repeatedly had industry based audits claim that diesels would be cheaper, only to have an actually independent audit show the trolley busses are nearly 25% cheaper than diesels taking all costs into account. Not to mention the additional savings in health costs thanks to lower emissions. Only trams can beat trolley busses, and that's only the case on very busy routes.
@danielinnes88393 жыл бұрын
While electric traction is a must, it would be better to use a electric bus over a trolly bus if the tech is a available. Trolly buses just have alot of overhead for what they are, all the maintenance and overhead of a tram with the chasis of a bus. The capacity of a light rail system is taken away, and the rote flexibility of a bus is also lost.
@Pyrochemik0073 жыл бұрын
Flaw of electric buses is their cost - bateries will have limited life expectation, and they can triple the cost of vehicle. Plus during crash, if the batery gets damaged, the vehicle is totaled. I think there are trolleybuses with a battery system, which can go several kilometers without trolley, and then recharge from it. That solves the route flexibility issue you mentioned. I think Prague uses this technology (on very small scale as trams are historicaly dominant there). Theoreticaly this allows to enter historic centers without cables, or easily cross trainline/tramline, or even go on highway sections where trolleys are impossible to build.
@user-df3ty8ei2u3 жыл бұрын
Trolleys have batteries. My city has 40Km lithium ion ones
@markusstudeli2997 Жыл бұрын
@@Pyrochemik007 Most newer Swiss Trolleys have small batteries to bridge parts without overhead wires. I accidentally live right next to such a trolley bus line.
@popescualexandrupaul3 жыл бұрын
That picture at 0:17 is in Brașov Romania....
@tomasnordin97783 жыл бұрын
Very interesting vid as usual,i can travel without moving.
@Pizza1442 жыл бұрын
I live in Linz
@bazoo5133 жыл бұрын
The fact that troleybuses share roads with other traffic is both an advantage (no need to lay track) and disadvantage (congestion). I think that their days are numbered, though, at least in new installations: they will be replaced by the combination of tram/light rail where it makes sense, and battery electric buses (the same thing as troleybuses, but without the need for catenary, with overhead charging contact or wireless charging at some stops).
@user-df3ty8ei2u3 жыл бұрын
Poland has no intention of getting rid of them. Why would they? They invested a lot of money in their systems for them to be good
@user-df3ty8ei2u3 жыл бұрын
@@bazoo513 gdynia is planning to expand in the small cities around the main one (and a bigger one too) and they are already doing progress. They are even starting to make lines without overhead wires and put trolleybuses in crowded lines during rush hour
@bazoo5133 жыл бұрын
@@user-df3ty8ei2u Interesting. So, the troleybuses used there are actually battery powered with charging from the catenary where available? That's more or less what I was saying - battery electric buses where tram/light rail is not practical or is too expensive, with some kind of convenient charging system.
@user-df3ty8ei2u3 жыл бұрын
@@bazoo513 kind of, but they also can charge when you brake/slow down when using the overhead wires. then its 30/40 km of range without using wires. and in Poland they are both registered as buses and trolleybuses (only the ones with 30km range I think) but of course you can still use it without having the batteries charged, with the wires. If you found this interesting and wanna know more search for "gdynia super trolleybuses" (as they call them here)
@bazoo5133 жыл бұрын
@@user-df3ty8ei2u Mine was the first upvote of this interesting presentation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5nUnItpjZiohpI I see that Gdynia system with range extended trolleybuses, supercapacitor banks in substations etc is considered interesting pretty widely - I found many articles online. With ~30km of off-grid range they are exactly what I had in mind. I really don't get why would anyone consider such a system "old-fashioned" or "obsolete" - perhaps a reflex reaction "if it was used in Soviet times, it cannot be any good", which, of course, is ridiculous.
@haroldomiyaura9123 жыл бұрын
gorgeous trolleybuses
@73356ful1Ай бұрын
Parabéns pelo vídeo 👏👏👏 os trólebus são lindos ❤️❤️❤️ eu acho esse sistema de transporte muito bonito 😊🥰
@pyzdauskas133 жыл бұрын
Bet turbūt rečiau važiuoja taip greitai Kaune, arba nuo vairuotojo priklauso, nes kiek matau, tinklas yra modernizuojamas, bet dauguma važiuoja kaip ankščiau, arba tiesiog retas atvėjis, kad taip greitai važiuoja. Visgi aš manau, kad tai yra geras pavyzdys, kad troleibusai gali būti greiti.
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Tai vairuotojai tikrai pripratę važiuoti lėtai arba minimaliai greičiau . Bet nauji vairuotojai važiuoja šiek tiek greičiau . Aišku reikia apmokyti vairuotojus arba informuoti apie atnaujinta vietą.
@pyzdauskas133 жыл бұрын
@@MrGintaras na, bet tikėkimės, kad dauguma vairuotojų važiuos žymiai greičiau greitu metu.
@VojtovySumavskeVlakyCZ3 жыл бұрын
Nice video like and subscribed from Czech Republic 🙂👍👍
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Thank you , i realy hope in the summer again come back in Czech Republic!
@pamisesm Жыл бұрын
Theres newer trolleybuses in Vilnius that has UNDU sign in their newer trolleybuses If you find a trolleybus with no UNDU sign. UNDU still owns it. It just a older model Those two trolleybuses routes that Has UNDU signs in it (if you find other route that has a UNDU sign in trolleybus using that route let me know)
@RuiPlaneSpotter3 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@RuiPlaneSpotter3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGintaras You're welcome!
@scottfaulds26453 жыл бұрын
I remember Toronto had trolleybuses but not anymore
@metsolainenpov87713 жыл бұрын
During Soviet era trolleybuses were slow due to constant electricity shortages in the Eastern block. But that was long ago and those times are already gone :) Anyway, great vid, those VanHool things from Austria look a little bit weird :P
@LMB222 Жыл бұрын
Slow? On the contrary, it has an amazing acceleration.
@anfsabc_busotto3 жыл бұрын
You should visit Italian trolleybus systems next Some cities have lots of old vehicles while other networks are relatively new I really suggest visiting Milan, as it's the most diverse trolleybus network in Italy, with 7 different models spanning 7 generations of trolleybuses.
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
I have plan this year visit Milan , but still didint know how will be possible to travel in the summer
@anfsabc_busotto3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's really unpredictable especially when the government doesn't have a clue on what to do next with restrictions Which is a bummer, considering that Modena and Parma already withdrew their old trolleybuses while the lockdown was in place. So yeah, it is suggested to hurry up and see them all, but I really don't know when will foreigners be allowed to travel to Italy again
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
@@anfsabc_busotto I plan to travel during the summer if this is possible without quarantine as it will significantly shorten the list of my planned cities to visit
@flyhigh60883 жыл бұрын
@@MrGintaras When travelling to Milan, don‘t forget the old trams (90 years old or so)!
@daliakyniene5550 Жыл бұрын
@@flyhigh6088 Done :)
@strassenbahnfilmguy93063 жыл бұрын
All the systems are nize ... but the Linz TB's are real kool .
@shakeebchaudhary1573 Жыл бұрын
Those wires fuck up the beauty of cities
@sfperalta Жыл бұрын
I think they made their point in the first 3 minutes. You gotta be a real trolley fan to watch the whole thing! LOL!
@medwaymodelrailway71293 жыл бұрын
Like the video very much .Hope there more .Take care
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I look forward to visiting new cities
@MaxRaptorMax3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guy for video!
@peterkaloczkai94183 жыл бұрын
Trolleybuses are just perfect! And fast!
@CreatorPolar3 жыл бұрын
Most trolleybuses go around 40mph (60km/h) which isn’t exactly fast but damn they have fast acceleration
@Shane-ln5zz2 жыл бұрын
Those overhead cables are hideous tho, it still suffers from traffic issues and those accordion busses are. Nightmare for cyclists sharing the road.
@krcprc Жыл бұрын
Trolleybuses are obviously not slow. Looking at their schedule where they share road with regular buses shows very clearly they don't take more time than buses in the same route.
@MrGintaras Жыл бұрын
Its true!
@LoovesJf.3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it difficult to operate a trolleybus? I think it's amazing that it can't get off the overhead wire even though it don't have rails and it's feet are free.
@CreatorPolar3 жыл бұрын
Most trolleybuses can also operate wire free where it needs to so for eg. When it goes into the historic city center or a place that isn’t served that frequently
@LoovesJf.3 жыл бұрын
@@CreatorPolar , Wow! It's so great‼︎ Thank you so much for your information.
@asiersanz8941 Жыл бұрын
Niretzat Kaunas onena / Kaunas, my favourite
@ЛЬВИНИ Жыл бұрын
Very good video, like !
@MrGintaras Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙂
@Aaaaaaeeeeaaa2 жыл бұрын
2:50 thats just an tram with whells bro that looks no where near an trolleybus
@peterisgoogling99983 жыл бұрын
Solaris from Poland rules in most of these cities.
@HelloandMore3 жыл бұрын
7:42 my city is in the Video, I already can see, this is the best video :)
@metsolainenpov87713 жыл бұрын
Cool, mine starts at 19:13 :D
@flyhigh60883 жыл бұрын
The trolley buses seem to gallop in Szeged.
@Bsodman3 жыл бұрын
i know many will disagree with me, but some new trolleybus designs look absolutely dumb, attempting to look like a tram. It's trying to pander to those who don't know much about public transport so they can sell the idea of "trackless trams".
@CreatorPolar3 жыл бұрын
But you can’t deny they look way better and hella cooler than a normal boxy design right?
@allyreneepenny9447 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful 👍
@MrGintaras Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@DanielixMK3 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@romantretjakov61053 жыл бұрын
Sadly, some assholes from Tallinna Linnatranspordi AS won't let our trolleys run for long... (
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
It is a pity that Tallinn is following Moscow's path ...
@mccobsta3 жыл бұрын
The ones in Austria are insane it's just a tram that's not on rails
@CreatorPolar3 жыл бұрын
This tram-bus trolley is also found in Geneva although a little shorter
@CoolTransport3 жыл бұрын
Why are all the trolleybuses in eastern Europe?
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Thet are not fast.... Move very slow
@user-df3ty8ei2u3 жыл бұрын
Because ussr thought they were cool and other countries did aswell
@CreatorPolar3 жыл бұрын
Because it was a cheap alternative to trams for cities that were on a hella tight budget
@CoolTransport3 жыл бұрын
@@CreatorPolar yeah makes sense
@samarendranathchowdhury85262 жыл бұрын
Some might be dual mode buses
@Yagunitto2 жыл бұрын
great video!
@soab26443 жыл бұрын
What happens when the driver takes a wrong turn?
@CreatorPolar3 жыл бұрын
I mean it’s pretty hard to do a wrong turn when your job is to follow the trolley wires
@PolosLatinos3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Btw, you forgot about Vilnius, Kyiv, Minsk, but also about plenty of Polish and Italian cities with trolleybuses ;)
@nicholaskelly63753 жыл бұрын
Sadly today only three town's in Poland still have Trolleybuses. 1) Gdynia. 2) Lublin 3) Tychy. Germany also has only three surviving systems. One of which Esslingen is just a single route. Austria only two. Linz very nearly followed Innsbruck a few years ago. The best countries for trolleybuses outside the former USSR and China are The Czech Republic, Italy, Slovakia and Switzerland. Most regrettably since 1972 There have been no operational systems in the UK. In the USA there are five. 1) Boston. 2) Dayton. 3) Philadelphia. 4) San Francisco. 5) Seattle. Thank you very much for this exciting video.
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the details!
@PolosLatinos3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholaskelly6375 What I always heard is: trolleybus networks are horribly expensive to maintain, which is the main reason why they have disappeared from a lot of cities
@nicholaskelly63753 жыл бұрын
@@PolosLatinos Not really The main reason for closures was cheap oil. Also in the UK another very significant reason was due to the nationalisation of the electricity industry in 1948. This was a major factor in the the closure of UK tram and trolleybus systems post WW II. One issue was government policy. When the coal industry had been nationalised the previous year it was discovered that the coal companies had opened new mines and inflated their value to increase the compensation paid by the government. Well to prevent such abuses when the electricity industry was nationalised the government introduced legislation which only made them liable to pay compensation on assets that were in place on the last day of the last full pre war financial year ie in April 1939. This proved to be a major problem for the power station owners who were very often the local authorities. Take what happened in Brighton my birthplace. Work had begun on building the new 480MW 'Brighton B' station in 1941. By 1948 some £125,000 had been spent. Brighton Corporation never received a penny of this. Portsmouth was in an even worse position as it's power station had been completely destroyed during The Blitz and a new power station was built in 1943. Also two colliers were ordered 'Pompey Light' & 'Pompey Power' (one of which is preserved in Norway) Again Portsmouth Corporation lost a lot of money over this. Even worse was to come. Pre nationalisation where the power station and the tramway/trolleybus system had the same owner it was simply a "paper transaction" between the two branches. That all changed in 1948! Suddenly the tramway and trolleybus operators had to pay real money for the electricity! This in turn led to more and more systems closing. At the time oil was very cheap and pollution caused by motor vehicles was by and large less of an issue. Sometimes systems could continue to operate using "Third party electricity" supplied by local heavy industry etc etc. This loophole was closed by the Macmillan government in the early 1960's when it became illegal for third party generators to supply anyone except the national grid. You could generate for your own needs but you could no longer supply a third party. In fact you couldn't even give the electricity free. This was part of the reason a number of systems closed. The final killer was that the steel industry stopped rolling tram rail (The sole reason Blackpool Tramway survived was because it had due to an accounting error massively over ordered rail and the Steel Works in Workington allowed Blackpool Corporation to buy rail when they actually required it!) Then in the mid 1960's the only surviving manafacturer of overhead BICC announced that it would cease making or supplying it. Yes you could import but post war governments wanted to keep import spending to an absolute minimum. Even the armed forces and the state owned companies were not exempt from high levels of import duty and tax. The last UK Trolleybus system Bradford closed in March 1972. In truth a modern well designed overhead system can easily be offset by the savings on fuel costs over time. As oil might have been very cheap in the 1950's & 1960's. However this is no longer the case!
@PolosLatinos3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholaskelly6375 Thanks for your interesting insights!
@samuzamu3 жыл бұрын
They're much quiter than trams. Here in Scandinavia, we should really consider trolleybuses. A lot of buses on diesel here, although switching to biofuels is progressing rapidly. Seems like electric buses in the inner cities would do wonders for air quality, athough road particulates would still persist. One advantage of trams, possibly.
@موسى_73 жыл бұрын
Electric buses don't have particulates, not even when braking thanks to regenerative braking
@samuzamu3 жыл бұрын
@@موسى_7 What I'm referring to is that rubber tires, as opposed to train wheels, whip up particles from the road surface which become airborne and end up in people's lungs.
@user-df3ty8ei2u3 жыл бұрын
@@samuzamu well inhaling small iron pieces from tram wheels can't be good long term also
@samuzamu3 жыл бұрын
@@user-df3ty8ei2u True but based on the much lower rolling resistance of steel wheels on track, I think they would produce much less particulates than fast-wearing rubber tires on tarmac. Just an uninformed guess though.
@user-df3ty8ei2u3 жыл бұрын
@@samuzamu maybe you are right idk
@jeremiahreal35252 жыл бұрын
how tf does that trolley tram know how to go through a round about, when i go i feel like i’m gonna flip my car or wipe out a pedestrian
@mihaiiulianbendre3 жыл бұрын
picture from Brasov RO at the intro, but not the video :(
@MrGintaras3 жыл бұрын
Brasov got modern trolleybus , but wires are very bad .