Trondheim's Trampe Bicycle Lift. Assistance for cyclists climbing one of Norway's steep hills

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David Hembrow

David Hembrow

9 жыл бұрын

More about cycling in Trondheim: www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/...
More information about Trampe: trampe.no/
A few days ago I was lucky enough to be in Trondheim, Norway for a few days and I was shown around by the local council officials.
Of course this lift isn't cycling infrastructure for every hill or even every town. However, the bicycle lift is a great way of demonstrating that _cyclists_matter_. It really does work very well both for pushing cyclists up hill and for marketing the city - this is now the number two tourist attraction in Trondheim.
It takes a little practice. On my first run up the hill I was letting the puck which pushes your right foot get away from me, and this wasn't assisted by my lack of familiarity with the bike share system hire bikes (they go well but long handlebars, small front wheel and solid tyres combine to make handling feel a bit strange).
The lift could also perhaps be criticised on the grounds of not being inclusive. I'm also not sure that it would be easy for older people to use or people with some disabilities.
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@kumd
@kumd 9 ай бұрын
This would make for a great Tom Scott video.
@reyrey4261
@reyrey4261 5 жыл бұрын
Even nicer during winter - it turns into a ski lift.
@LordStraightBanana
@LordStraightBanana 4 жыл бұрын
What a great idea. To put this in the UK would require a Private Finance Initiative, and a focus group to determine if anyone would use it, and, most importantly a feasibility study to see how much profit it could make. Then it would be built 15 years later for 5 times the estimated cost, and would charge a tenner per ride, unless it was a weekday and off-peak, or you had kids and a super duper saver ticket or a season ticket. Then, when no-one uses it because the pricing is too high and confusing, they’d blame its failure on the public for not getting out of their cars. The cynicism is strong in this one
@tonycarey9731
@tonycarey9731 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a part-time Politician in an English city where this is (apparently) being spoken about - but no one has mentioned it to me. It would be a boon in our hilly city - but, we would need five or six at least, if not more. I love cynicism and sarcasm - are they the same thing?????? Not really but near enough.
@HippasosofMetapontum
@HippasosofMetapontum 3 жыл бұрын
same in Germany - but renovating a football stadium is fine
@baronjutter
@baronjutter 2 жыл бұрын
In north america this would require 5 years of environmental impact review and community consultation. Then upon opening it, a person would try to use it by holding onto it with their mouth and get hurt, sue the city, win 12 million dollars and get the whole thing shut down. There would then be a legal precedent that these are extreme liability risks and they'd be totally banned.
@KiLLJoYYouTube
@KiLLJoYYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
Headington hill in Oxford. would be perfect up there imo.
@Codenbaugh
@Codenbaugh 2 жыл бұрын
I live in the US and i cycle everywhere. Out here i feel like it's a hostile environment for cycles. Sidewalks are bumpy, covered in debris and plants encroach on them. The streets are for the most part are tolerable but drivers get aggressive. Bike lanes are seldom. Paths are full of people walking abreast.
@georgieippolito9924
@georgieippolito9924 5 жыл бұрын
im still waiting for someone to ride a office chair up it. that can go between the wheels and push you all the way up without holding on. just relax and spin to the top lol
@tumi944
@tumi944 8 жыл бұрын
Beautiful example of Scandinavian way of physically active living and the communal support of it
@lordbelvoir2543
@lordbelvoir2543 2 жыл бұрын
Physical active living?????....what's up with peddling up the hill??? ffs
@generalrodcocker1018
@generalrodcocker1018 9 ай бұрын
a long vertical post with a handle would be an evolution of this magnificent installation.
@Drumaier
@Drumaier 9 ай бұрын
Yes this seems like almost a good idea, or a seed for a better idea. It looks like they could have done much better with little more.
@Scott-tq7ko
@Scott-tq7ko 21 күн бұрын
Presumably they wanted people to keep both hands on the handlebars for steering.
@MelCraft10
@MelCraft10 Жыл бұрын
My leg would prob cramp halfway through and id end up faceplanting and rolling down that steep hill lmao
@zenapsgas
@zenapsgas 7 жыл бұрын
This hill is way steeper than it looks. However, if your bike has low gears, it is actually easier to bike all the way up rather than using the lift. The lift is overrated since it is physically demanding to use. A tiny metall is pushing up you and your bike. This creates a lot of pressure in your foot - painful. Although the idea is cool, it is way easier to invest in a bike with low gears and just bike all the way up yourself.
@MrMartymus
@MrMartymus 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who used this lift for 3 years i can say after the first 3 times its 100 times easier with the lift. You get used to the lift.
@simonz1146
@simonz1146 4 жыл бұрын
MrMartymus I want to know ,when someone is using the lift , should another one wait for he or she finished? Thanks
@zenapsgas
@zenapsgas 4 жыл бұрын
@@simonz1146 The lift can be used by several people at the same time. Not sure how many pins there are, but at least three.
@amolsen94
@amolsen94 9 ай бұрын
That’s why im confused why they made such a gap between it and the curb or cant you put your bike on the curb and just hook your pedal against the lift?
@DavidHembrow
@DavidHembrow 9 жыл бұрын
When I was in Trondheim I visited the second biggest tourist attraction of the city. The famous Trampe Bicycle Lift ! kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJrTi2ihrM15nNU More about Trondheim (and more to come): www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/search/label/trondheim
@cchongchannel8943
@cchongchannel8943 2 жыл бұрын
Wow.....what a fantastic tool and facility you have there, thank God for the great innovations and facilities. It would be so wonderful if things like this could be installed and implemented in many other countries as well for the encouragement of more bicycles use (environmental friendly) which is a great commute option.
@jesot
@jesot 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like it's faster and safer to just get off the bike and walk it up the hill. It's definitely a problem that needs solutions devised, though.
@Friendlyfire97
@Friendlyfire97 Жыл бұрын
Nooo. I promise you that hill is way longer and way steeper than the video shows. Its a pain to walk up Ive done it many times because I have lived there for many years. Its a good workout tho.
@KekeeBlack
@KekeeBlack 9 ай бұрын
How is it not safe? If your foot slips you hit your brake
@andreasvedeler80
@andreasvedeler80 9 ай бұрын
@@Friendlyfire97 Can you stand with one foot on the elevator thing without a bike and get all the way up?
@fmattiasc
@fmattiasc 7 ай бұрын
Look at the houses on the side, it's really steep.
@hubert187
@hubert187 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is awesome.
@chrisnumnuts8671
@chrisnumnuts8671 2 жыл бұрын
something like that where you place your back wheel that catapults you a little at the top a be perfect on every hill
@wohlhabendermanager
@wohlhabendermanager 3 жыл бұрын
I tried using this, but failed miserably. Even though a nice local guy tried explaining to me how to use it properly. Ah well, it's much more fun to go DOWN the hill anyway (just make sure to check your brakes beforehand, and make sure you know which handle is for the brakes on the rear wheel!)
@kimberlysevastyanenko3798
@kimberlysevastyanenko3798 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask what was difficult about it? I've heard others say they didn't do well with it either.
@wohlhabendermanager
@wohlhabendermanager 2 жыл бұрын
@@kimberlysevastyanenko3798 It's a bit hard to explain (plus, it was a few years ago since I tried it). I think what surprised me the most was how fast the thing starts off. It would be better if it started slowly, so you can get used to it, and then gradually speed up. And the plate to stand on is very small, IIRC.
@kimberlysevastyanenko3798
@kimberlysevastyanenko3798 2 жыл бұрын
@@wohlhabendermanager makes sense. To me it looks as though it might be quite tiring for your leg.
@wohlhabendermanager
@wohlhabendermanager 2 жыл бұрын
@@kimberlysevastyanenko3798 I think if you actually figure out the correct way to do it, it's quite easy. But it's a steep learning curve, lol.
@kimberlysevastyanenko3798
@kimberlysevastyanenko3798 2 жыл бұрын
@@wohlhabendermanager lol. Nice pun.
@MrsDasha110
@MrsDasha110 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa it's an amazing idea!
@josephwood1532
@josephwood1532 5 жыл бұрын
I just like how this guy talks
@Blakefe
@Blakefe 7 жыл бұрын
Can we get one of thous for our city?
@abelguggenheim4116
@abelguggenheim4116 2 жыл бұрын
1/ Comment se déplace la personne qui filme ? 2/ Quel gain en temps et en énergie par rapport au même trajet en poussant son vélo ?
@IsaSab
@IsaSab 9 ай бұрын
Wow nice to see in action. Wouldn’t it jam often with leaves, trash, dog poop, ice..?!
@BubbleGumzKorner
@BubbleGumzKorner 3 ай бұрын
How does it return though? Underground?
@yapengwang8107
@yapengwang8107 8 ай бұрын
lovely
@KEdas000
@KEdas000 9 жыл бұрын
Do they still turn this lift off for the winter season?
@AlfredBarron
@AlfredBarron 9 жыл бұрын
yes it's switched off at the moment. And as David hints towards the end of the video, it's quite hard work. If you have strong enough legs to use it then you are likely to be fit enough to cycle to the top and get there much more quickly! I prefer to cycle up the hill if I'm going that way.
@JoelLinus
@JoelLinus 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlfredBarron Electric ones are superior anyway now
@lukegreen5696
@lukegreen5696 3 жыл бұрын
How much did it cost? I need that for my Village
@marenehh
@marenehh 2 жыл бұрын
About 5 million norwegian kroner it said in an article. Thats $554 360,50 american dollars. The first one stod for about 20 years before having to be replaced
@mdegauss
@mdegauss 9 ай бұрын
maybe if they made it so instead of pushing your foot it pushes your back tire on a lil ledge that holds it. that might do the trick
@schiebs
@schiebs 9 ай бұрын
This is a good idea
@dannydanny9875
@dannydanny9875 4 жыл бұрын
but is it safe?
@Lord_Moulay
@Lord_Moulay 2 жыл бұрын
i think indonesia need this
@FuctByTheGovernment
@FuctByTheGovernment 9 ай бұрын
I would put my front tire in front of it and hold the front brake putting my feet out to keep balance.
@Elfenklatschen
@Elfenklatschen 8 жыл бұрын
I would never use that. Maybe if I'm old and rusty but that hill looks really rideable.
@TaiganTundra
@TaiganTundra 7 жыл бұрын
This hill is a lot steeper than it looks like on video.
@finnblu3002
@finnblu3002 6 жыл бұрын
BikeOmaniacLife king of doom...
@RikDog91
@RikDog91 2 жыл бұрын
How does it work? Does it just push you?
@DavidHembrow
@DavidHembrow 2 жыл бұрын
A small metal thing comes out of a slot on the ground at the bottom of the hill. You have to keep your right foot on it to be pushed up the hill. If there's no weight on it after a couple of metres then it retreats onto the ground so you can't take your for off or try to join the lift part easy up the hill. It's very small and narrow so that it fits into the slot and this means it feels a bit peculiar k under your foot. Takes some practice
@user-ep5sl6ei1h
@user-ep5sl6ei1h 2 жыл бұрын
Wuh😲 Doesn't it hurt?
@lba4746
@lba4746 4 ай бұрын
how tf does this work what does actually lift you up?
@markifi
@markifi 5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to ride it up with two feet on it standing sideways, leaning on the bike?
@DavidHembrow
@DavidHembrow 5 жыл бұрын
I suspect not because there is almost nothing to stand on - it's a tiny post which is small even for one foot. But I'd be very interested to know if it's been tried.
@Michael-vv4ny
@Michael-vv4ny 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidHembrow How long is this lift?
@DavidHembrow
@DavidHembrow 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-vv4ny It's about 150 m long. You can see it on Google Maps at this link: goo.gl/maps/JUUZwBFERnK3KTfo8
@PaulSchoonhoven
@PaulSchoonhoven 9 жыл бұрын
Waarom hebben we geen heuvels in Nederland? I love it... ;-) #MeanwhileInNorway #Cycling (via George Kozi )
@Greengate777
@Greengate777 9 жыл бұрын
lol, omdat de wielrenners liever in het buitenland willen trainen voor _Le Tour._
@NelGroenendijk
@NelGroenendijk 9 жыл бұрын
En vergeet je de Zeven Heuvelen route niet een heel klein beetje? En als je iets minder heuvelig wil....de oude snelweg tussen Soesterberg en Amersfoort Centrum geeft best oefen mogelijkheden over de Stichtse Rotonde
@PaulSchoonhoven
@PaulSchoonhoven 9 жыл бұрын
***** ik heb jaren dagelijks op Limburg gereden. Voor mn gevoel ging ik bij Weert zo'n beetje een grens over echt ik tegen de tijd dat ik tussen Heerlen en Maastricht zat het idee dat ik op vakantie was.
@nemoschmitz2374
@nemoschmitz2374 5 жыл бұрын
Cause there are no hills in the Netherlands 😄
@maxkopfraumpoops
@maxkopfraumpoops 3 жыл бұрын
because it is called Nederland, you know what it means. No hills is already in the name of Nederland (more or less).
@TheDool
@TheDool 7 жыл бұрын
Why not just push the bike?
@QiuyuanChenRyan916
@QiuyuanChenRyan916 4 жыл бұрын
In that case it is more excuse to not ride entirely.
@christobal747
@christobal747 4 жыл бұрын
You never cycled up a hill.
@TrymNor
@TrymNor 7 жыл бұрын
I live In Trondheim
@Blakefe
@Blakefe 7 жыл бұрын
How is it?
@randomstuff-wg6nj
@randomstuff-wg6nj 6 жыл бұрын
gay
@orb5045
@orb5045 6 жыл бұрын
i live in *MORRA DI*
@12Packet
@12Packet 3 жыл бұрын
by any chance you know how can i find the ones who build this?
@jezztech
@jezztech 16 күн бұрын
I bet your right leg is just as knackered as if you pedaled up
@djfisher4356
@djfisher4356 Жыл бұрын
Looks kind of difficult to use. It would probably be better if there was someway to hook it to your bike and push you up or pull you up.
@jacobeldredge2956
@jacobeldredge2956 11 ай бұрын
It’s not that difficult bruh
@Jhilke-Dai-12345
@Jhilke-Dai-12345 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ha ha Ho ho ho ho Ha ha ha ha Ho ho ho ho That’s why some get really mad over there…
@LaSenoritaLadrillos
@LaSenoritaLadrillos 9 ай бұрын
All that ruckus 😭
@Sebbir
@Sebbir 3 жыл бұрын
Fundy brought me here
@seprishere
@seprishere Жыл бұрын
This actually looks not especially steep compared with a lot of hills in South Wales towns and cities!
@oreosaysb00
@oreosaysb00 7 жыл бұрын
Seems cool but I'd probably just cycle up it, the hill is not that steep
@siro2899
@siro2899 7 жыл бұрын
its a lot steeper than you think. ive tried it
@kimberlysevastyanenko3798
@kimberlysevastyanenko3798 2 жыл бұрын
Looks steep enough to me.
@lawrencegrace9302
@lawrencegrace9302 2 ай бұрын
But if you lift your leg from a cramp....
@jayasil8295
@jayasil8295 11 ай бұрын
Say hello to geared bicycles
@ak5235
@ak5235 9 ай бұрын
Its just giving a push
@186koke
@186koke Жыл бұрын
Norway knows about redstone
@nin6246
@nin6246 7 жыл бұрын
"It's free"
@northamericanvanlines
@northamericanvanlines 3 жыл бұрын
dId yOu kNoW iT aCtuAlLy iSnT FrEe?? i ReAd AyN RaNd
@shinosmodspot4267
@shinosmodspot4267 9 ай бұрын
o and just so u know that looks liek a averge steep hill easly done id rather go faster up normal way and be more in shape lol.....
@jorenzdejesus
@jorenzdejesus 2 жыл бұрын
Who came here after watching the tiktok video?
@user-oc6gz7zo7j
@user-oc6gz7zo7j 9 ай бұрын
It’s slow, stressful. Not a good idea. Showed be a to lift people and their bicycle and loads up together.
@MaaleMachang
@MaaleMachang 3 жыл бұрын
Too slow
@GraniteMtn618
@GraniteMtn618 3 ай бұрын
Great idea, why not just turn the pedal to match the lift and utilize the mechanism and gears with limited human interaction? That’s where things mess us. This is asking for someone to get a strain and sue the city.
@geemithafernando
@geemithafernando 3 жыл бұрын
Whos here from tiktok🤣?
@blankchisel2075
@blankchisel2075 3 жыл бұрын
Me lol
@flutjaker
@flutjaker 4 жыл бұрын
That looks harder and more painful than just cycling up the hill.
@angeldareal7217
@angeldareal7217 9 ай бұрын
Why does it look harder than to just walk 😂
@IsaSab
@IsaSab 9 ай бұрын
We are practicing walking since forever, that’s why 😅
@antysynteza777
@antysynteza777 Жыл бұрын
Noga by mi zdrętwiała, wolę kręcić.
@X-GamerPro-HD
@X-GamerPro-HD 9 ай бұрын
It’s very stupid. Just get an e-bike make life easier. That’s what I did But you’d pay over 2k plus like I did for a decent one
@kudosbudo
@kudosbudo 9 ай бұрын
So if you can't afford a new eeb then it's not stupid.
@tuneandsmash9346
@tuneandsmash9346 9 ай бұрын
I wish we could have those in America but meth addicts would rip the track out of the ground for scrap metal
@nawr_whalz2791
@nawr_whalz2791 7 жыл бұрын
That whole contraption for that one single purpose. I'm not sure if it was really that great of an investment or use of city resources...
@imogenPsychic
@imogenPsychic 2 жыл бұрын
Who's here because of TikTok 😂
@carltonp420
@carltonp420 2 жыл бұрын
Is like going to the mall but not wanting to walk. Stay home if you are lazy.
@onyxescence
@onyxescence 9 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous. I'd rather walk up pushing my bike.
@alvaromotato7348
@alvaromotato7348 8 жыл бұрын
+Onyx Escence hey dude you take a stupid opction
@onyxescence
@onyxescence 8 жыл бұрын
Don't think it's as stupid as putting all that pressure on one leg trying to use a belt and your leg to go uphill. It's very un-ergonomic.
@meoutthispiece9015
@meoutthispiece9015 9 ай бұрын
I assume you all are lazy HAHA
@Fievelavie
@Fievelavie 9 ай бұрын
For lazy people 😂
@crazyoncoffee
@crazyoncoffee 7 жыл бұрын
That is a hill? Try cycling in San Francisco and you'll learn about real hill cycling. And we don't have any elevators to help you up the slope. It's cool but I think it could have more of a use on a steeper incline.
@TR4zest
@TR4zest 5 жыл бұрын
What a cliche you are. Here's a clip from Europe, but Mr Miles Big Pants Sanford has BETTER hills, does BETTER hill cycling in San Francisco. Are you enjoying starring in your own life? Sad fuck.
@anthony9thompson
@anthony9thompson 5 жыл бұрын
If you look at the angles between the road and the building you can see that it’s way steeper than it looks
@wohlhabendermanager
@wohlhabendermanager 3 жыл бұрын
Dude. This is freaking NORWAY. You'd be hard pressed to find an area as flat as San Francisco in freaking Norway.
@kudosbudo
@kudosbudo 9 ай бұрын
Do they have 20-25% climbs on grass and rock in San Francisco or Norway?. We have bridleways that get to that level in the UK, nevermind little roads at 20+%>
@grassytramtracks
@grassytramtracks Ай бұрын
​@@kudosbudo it said st the start that the average gradient is 20%
@timozumstein9826
@timozumstein9826 5 жыл бұрын
Laziest city ever
@Mad_Flavor
@Mad_Flavor Жыл бұрын
buy a e-bike. problem solved
@antonioalmeida2402
@antonioalmeida2402 8 жыл бұрын
engenharia medíocre
@giorgioscruz961
@giorgioscruz961 3 жыл бұрын
Unless is for handicaped people.......what a waste of money and resources......I hope the handicaped people find a real use for it.
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