Troublesome 50-110!

[@michaelsicowitz362]

I sure hope you're passing your knowledge on to someone who appreciates it. Your lifetime of passion for these great old historic firearms is awesome to watch. What a beautiful ranch and your knowledge of geology is also really cool. That geothermal episode was great.

[@thecinnabar8442]

Thanks a bunch Michael! I've been very lucky to have some phenomenal mentors, both in gunsmithing and geology. Since we live in a very remote area, I haven't found someone locally who shares my passion for vintage firearms. That's about to change though. Keep an eye out for a major announcement coming up on the channel soon. Thanks for watching.

[@8023120SL]

Waking these lovely old things from their hundred year sleep and helping them talk again is a special experience.

[@thecinnabar8442]

It sure can be. Thanks for watching.

[@Bob-bb3ur]

The old girl gave you some problems, but you got her cooking.

[@johngallagher2313]

It is great to see an old rifle like that get back into firing condition.

[@jimfrieze525]

"Well, that's not good." Lol. Love it Mark!

[@thecinnabar8442]

Haha! That was me trying to keep the channel "G Rated". I couldn't blurt out what I was really thinking while the camera was rolling. 😉

[@coelagos8645]

I loved seeing the process of restoring that piece to working order, very informative. I'm sure the owner was thrilled as well.

[@cj4freedom856]

I admire how you stick with a problem gun till it is fixed completely, even when new breakdowns appear.

[@johnnyholland8765]

The 50-110 is the Holy Grail of 86,s Don't see many of them especially the button mag guns. Thanks for the tip on correcting head space. My 40-82 was that way when I got it. Primers would back out. The barrel was a sewer pipe so I opted for a new barrel much to the lament of my pocketbook. Got it from winchesterbarrels out of Florida. It is a shooter now. That is a lot of bullet for a lever gun...

[@roadking99jokerst60]

I'm happy that this channel comes up in my recommendations. Always an enjoyable viewing. (And the wind would be in your face, today.)

[@thecinnabar8442]

Thanks a bunch! Yea, I didn't think that through when I was setting up to shoot. 😀

[@ofreen]

@@thecinnabar8442 The smoke probably cleared out a little quicker for the follow up shots that way.😁

[@AngelRodriguez-du5rp]

I love the 1886...it's my favorite Winchester Lever action rifle. I have a few 😊

[@thecinnabar8442]

How's that Lightning running, Angel? Were you able to get some larger diameter bullets to shoot through it?

[@AngelRodriguez-du5rp]

@@thecinnabar8442 I have looked into it but I want to make certain I do not buy too hard a a bullet. I have to watching one of your videos I notice you said that it was important that it shouldn't be too hard. Duck season's coming up and I have a friend of mine who I normally go with up to New York State so every day is full of something new to do... Especially work 🤦

[@357Dejavu]

Very fun cartridge for shooting!

[@thecinnabar8442]

Yes, it is! Thanks for watching!

[@Robert-fs1pb]

The smoke trail goes farther than the bullet goes.

[@dogbone1358]

Wow! Nice job Mark. Amazing workmanship!!

[@paulvenn4447]

Currently restoring a 1892 for my wife, loving the content on this channel.

[@mrj10101]

I love to hear that happy chuckle 👍

[@johnmollet2637]

I never realized the relationship between the lever and the firing pin. Great video Mark, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us

[@thecinnabar8442]

You're very welcome, John!

[@BV-fr8bf]

A novice does learn a GREAT deal from this channel!

[@thecinnabar8442]

That's great to hear! Thanks for watching.

[@AlexCausey]

1886 lever in 45-70 with 26" barrel is my favorite. Nice repair job on the 50-110. I've fired a Sharps falling block 45-90 and a Springfield trap door 50-70 but never a 50-110. 👍

[@billfisher6708]

Wow! Awesome! A real beauty!

[@atveekrem]

You should think about doing a video detailing disassembly and reassembly of the 1886 action. I haven’t found much, and often they’re for Miroku versions, which are a little different. If there are some already out there, please post the links. Or maybe do one with a paywall if needed. I’m always impressed with the engineering and machining skills which went into these 86’s. Thanks.

[@texaswader]

I learned a lot from this video Mark. Well done!

[@dianecullum1281]

(Mike Cullum) I'm glad your buddy Curtis was willing to mortgage his farm to pay you for the crazy man hours it took to get that great old 1886 up and running! Every time I see you having so much fun burning powder It makes me want to pull a rifle out and and warm it up some! Thanks again for giving us a peek inside another awesome old gun.

[@robr1656]

Another great episode. What a dandy cartridge. The 86 is one of my favorites models! Thanks

[@thecinnabar8442]

Thanks Rob! Glad to hear you liked it.

[@klesmer]

Thanks Mark. I use the tape method on my C&R guns that are suspicious. I resize new unprimed brass and if the bolt closes on more than two layers of tape it goes to the gunsmith.

[@fredford7642]

Really good and informative video. My sincere compliments!

[@gilbertdelgado6703]

That 86 is certainly a good lookin ole gal, and she certainly sounded sweet when y’all were cycling her. Nice work Mark!

[@National757]

Always love your videos from start to finish. But the best part is always hearing your laugh and seeing your satisfaction when you full the trigger and the rifle works as intended! Thanks for sharing!

[@thecinnabar8442]

Thanks! This one was even more gratifying after the dreaded "click".😀

[@daveclemons1225]

Great Video Mark! Real world issue's pop up when working on firearms. That is one neat rifle, you brought it back to life and was able to shoot it! It was fun watching you fix all the issues that came up! Sure like watching your video's. I have learned alot. Thank you.

[@thecinnabar8442]

You're very welcome, Dave! I'm glad to hear you enjoy them.

[@joelowery6919]

Mark, you make every problem look so easy to solve! Good work and keep 'em coming!

[@thecinnabar8442]

Thanks, Joe!

[@loupuleff571]

I'm glad you did another inside video I can see very well Now. That said your getting me hooked on lever guns I have one a Rossi 92 in 454 I just had rebarreled with a 24" octagon barrel and got rid of that 20" carbine barrel now I'm looking for a Winchester your a true craftsmen can't get enough of your videos keep em coming !

[@thecinnabar8442]

Thanks. It turned out that I had plenty of lighting but had to study up on camera settings to get things to show up better with the indoor lighting.

[@loupuleff571]

@@thecinnabar8442 I have to get a 50-110 !

[@perrypappous7617]

I envy your patience, but you certainly got that rifle shooting well!

[@Tom-ki3lq]

Mark great video as usual. I mentioned 50-110 in a comment a year or so ago. I love mine. Hoping to get a doe with it this season. MP molds has a fantastic mold for this caliber as it has multiple pins for the same mold. FP, small HP, and what looks like a pipe bowl big HP. Thank you!

[@thecinnabar8442]

Thanks for the compliment and for the tip on the bullet mold.

[@cervus-venator]

Thanks and as always - very interesting stuff.

[@davidgoldberg]

Nice work getting her back into commission!

[@BillUtterback-q6e]

Great video ... very enjoyable and informative

[@furmanmackey5479]

I know the design of the 1876 Winchester was the "Big Brother" to the 1873 in terms of the rounds it was chambered for while also being the "Weak Sister" to the 1886 I actually prefer the looks of, if not the strength of the design, to that of the '86. Not that I would turn my nose up at and walk away from a good, shootable '86. Excellent video as usual!

[@mikemull1478]

Love your videos. I work on my own guns but getting parts is my problem. Now I need a loading gate spring for a Taurus Thunderbolt. I think one from a Colt will work but can't find one yet.love your channel

[@wilberfifer5563]

Thank you, I always enjoy your content,

[@practicalplinking6133]

What I did with customers was tell 'em to bring it by for a free visual inspection before the purchase. If the seller was honest, it happened. People knew what they were getting before the money changed hands. This was in the motorcycle business, same principle applies.

[@thecinnabar8442]

One of the big drawbacks to the online auctions is that the buyer can't take them out for a "test drive". A lot of problematic guns change hands.

[@practicalplinking6133]

@@thecinnabar8442 Only recourse is bad mouthing 'em cause ya can't knee-cap 'em ?

[@flintrichards945]

Great video thanks for all the very interesting information.

[@thecinnabar8442]

Thanks Flint. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@borkwoof696]

Fascinating!

[@usualsuspect5173]

Excellent video

[@joebarrett5310]

Love your videos as always Mark! Great job getting that old big bore '86 back to shooting 🙂

[@thecinnabar8442]

Thanks Joe!

[@davidbones8947]

Great vid brother really enjoy and look forward to your vids looking forward to meet y'all in Roseburg God Bless

[@thecinnabar8442]

See ya there

[@snappers_antique_firearms]

Thanks for bringing us along. Such a beautiful rifle

[@thecinnabar8442]

You're very welcome!

[@andrewanderson3472]

Beautiful rifle

[@meaders2002]

I haven't seen it done for rifles but in engine assembly rod and main bearing tolerances are measured with plasti-gauge, a product that is bolted into the desired location. Once removed, the thickness of the plasti-gauge is measured with a micrometer. In this case, you would be reading the head space.

[@thecinnabar8442]

What an interesting idea! I've used plasti-gauge when building engines. I'll have to see if I can find some in the shop and give that a try.

[@Leverguns50]

Thank you

[@thecinnabar8442]

You're very welcome, Jeremy!

[@broncota2210]

Hey mark, as always thanks for some excellent new content. Happy holidays

[@thecinnabar8442]

Thanks Traves! Happy Holidays to you and your family as well.

[@33667406]

Usted es un crack, descubre cada Winchester fuera de serie! Soy orgulloso poseedor de un Winchester 94 38-55 Nro. 28 mil cero...

[@oldiron3735]

Great instructional video Mark! The 50-110 is a grail level lever action for me. Id love to find one but the typical prices for an 86 in that chamber are usually way beyond what I can manage.

[@thecinnabar8442]

You're right. It seems like everybody wants a 50-110. I completely understand why that is.🙂

[@oldiron3735]

@@thecinnabar8442 Ive always thought it would be neat to do a side by side comparison of the old school 50 caliber lever action rifles and the new school 50 caliber lever actions. For new rifles I have two lever actions chambered in 500 Smith and Wesson and one lever action rifle chambered in 500 Linebaugh. It would be fun to compare them to a old 76 Winchester in 50-95 and an 86 Winchester in 50-110.

[@thecinnabar8442]

@@oldiron3735 That would be interesting. Are your big bores from Big Horn Armory?

[@oldiron3735]

@@thecinnabar8442 Yes Sir, all three of them.

[@geoffreyjones2000]

Awesome

[@ofreen]

What a great rifle. I've come to like the appearance of the half magazine rifles since I got my 92 in 32-20. But as you noted, you run out of ammo fast when plinking. Another entertaining video.

[@kipkaniper4679]

Good news on 114👍🙏💪

[@steveshoemaker6347]

SORRY I AM A DAY LATE BUT THANKS VERY MUCH..... Old F-4 Shoe🇺🇸

[@billm2078]

I have to assume that you love your work.

[@thecinnabar8442]

Yes, I do!

[@Ben_not_10]

I have a question about the locking blocks. Given their simple construction, could anything be gained in terms of strength and longevity if you made a set of brand new set of locking blocks on a mill and harden them to spec? I know it’s an involved process compared to setting the barrel back but I am curious.

[@thecinnabar8442]

Personally, it wouldn't be worth the time involved to make a "one-off" set of blocks. If a person wanted to make a batch of new blocks to sell, it might be worthwhile. There are reproduction locking blocks made for 1894's in +.005", .010" and .015" over sizes to take up headspace. I don't know of anybody who makes replacement locking blocks for the other Winchester models. Sounds like a good hobby for a retired machinist.

[@WilliamCollins-sh6lm]

What about the"Plastic Gauge" used in engine assessmbly ??? Crush an measure width ... Tape is way I was taught too .

[@thecinnabar8442]

Interesting idea. I think I've got some plasi-gauge around here. I'll have to give that a try.

[@DonaldRussell-g9t]

You might get new blocks from Japan where they make the New 86 Winchester at.

[@GenderSkins]

I wonder if you could figure out what’s wrong with an old 22 long rifle, that was my grandfathers. As my dad could not fix it, neither could the gunsmith he took it too. Thing would load and fire 3 rounds before hanging up on the 4th round. Odd thing is the rifle does something I have never seen any other rifle with a magazine tube do.

[@thecinnabar8442]

Unfortunately, it's become difficult and expensive to ship firearms these days. It may not be worth the cost to ship a 22 to and from a gunsmith, especially since most shippers require guns to be shipped FFL to FFL. Your best bet is to look for a competent gunsmith within driving distance of you.

[@scottydouglass1892]

I just purchased a 71 in 348. How hard is it to convert to a 45-70 ?

[@thecinnabar8442]

I don't have any experience with that conversion, but I don't believe it would be terribly difficult. Besides the barrel either being bored or replaced, there may have to be some modifications to the internals to get the 45-70 to feed properly. For what it's worth, I prefer the 348 to the 45-70, especially for a hunting cartridge.

[@michaelredman5750]

You could do 50 Alaskan, .50-110, or .50-100 WCF. Check with Starline brass for cases.

[@Tammy-un3ql]

👌👌👍👍

[@bearbait2221]

Great vid! I learned more about lever guns in this vid than any other vids. And the way you laugh after every shot makes me laugh to. I have an old Winchester lever i think its a 1896 25-20 or 20-25? it was a take down model i found it at an old abandon gold mine in Alaska. Some 1 had cut it into a mares leg and sanded it to make it shinny than left outside I can tell it was mint before that by no wear to the bluing above the trigger they missed with the sander:( I want to save it i don't know who to give it to for restoration. I took the barrel off. I dont think its even legal to have it together good thing its a take down model. The barrel is the hardest part to find i have had no luck. I just want to save it. Or at least make it legal to put on the wall. I also have never seen ammo like this up here. Older lever guns are not popularly carried up here with grizzlies running around bolt action magnums are the norm. The new stainless 45-70s are vary popular.

[@dwanehart8150]

Love watching you and your passion. Good on ya and get an apprentice. You have too much knowledge to lose.