Building a "DC Rivals" Roster

[@troyoboyo17]

what are we some kind of DC adversaries? some kind of DC enemies? some kind of DC nemeses? some kind of DC antagonists? some kind of

[@altothesting]

Some kind of DC Squad?

[@MaybeMania]

more batman

[@Zach-u2j]

❤🎉w

[@marcusyates3044]

What about Shazam and Zatanna?

[@BestgirlJordanfish]

I like "DC Legions", emphasizing becoming a team together and making your own superfriends. Would be even cuter being big heroes together in PvE or raids

[@LostSoulSilver]

If WB did this, there'd be 20 Batman characters, 2 Superman characters, and that's it. That'd be all

[@ahkafkhan4512]

Cap

[@killgre2399]

Nah it'll be the trinity 10 batman characters and lex Luther

[@Bratgirly]

And no characters anywhere near the niche of marvel’s Luna snow or Lin Lee

[@srujtz]

​@@Bratgirly nah, have you seen James Gun pulling out arm falling guy?

[@mattyt3625]

Yeah DC games are usually mentally ill when it comes to their worship of batman. Look at injustice. Ideally in a DC rivals jus batman and nightwing and joker would be fine from batman's characters. Evenly spread the love between all the characters and give us other heroes rogues too.

[@saintdane7336]

Also making THE big 3 (ie Supes, Diana and Bats) the respective tank, DPS, and “healer” is actually amazing because yes, part of Superman’s whole shtick is that he’s indestructible, Diana is the greatest warrior in the DC universe, and Batman is the greatest detective. He’s a super sneaky support, support characters tie the whole trio together

[@ummm_imweird7230]

Agreed 💯

[@PessimisticRavensFam]

Batman should be DPS and Cyborg should be healer

[@obrgrs2547]

Wonder Woman would make for a better tank though. And I still think that's Batmans better as a stealth based dps

[@Agoosemanoose]

Yeah, like I enjoy how Loki Thor & Hela are Strats, Tanks, & DPS

[@BlazeMakesGames]

Yeah I like the idea of Superman Tank, WW DPS, and Batman Support. Supes is all about protecting people first and foremost, so having a ton of health and maybe the ability to bodyblock for his team would work really well. WW can have her sword and shield and be more of a melee DPS but have a parry mechanic either using the shield or her bracelets, so she's not fragile if you play her well, but it requires more timing and precision to keep her alive and she's focused more on rushing people down. Then Batman could use various gadgets to focus on buffing his team and debuffing enemies cause that feels like the most batman thing you could do. He can have high mobility with a grappling hook and whatnot, but instead of him being like an assassin or something, it'd be more about putting down traps and sabotaging his enemies to set up his allies to finish them off. After all support doesn't have to mean "healer glued to a tank"

[@necro-esque666]

G.I. Robot with an ability to instakill any player who uses a slur in chat

[@troyoboyo17]

Overwatch players would call it OP

[@wet0wl]

Who needs a chat filter when slurs are competitively unviable?

[@The_succ_of_87]

OH MY GOD HE COULD BE THE BAN TEXT THAT SHOWS UP IN CHAT

[@robinvista]

@@troyoboyo17 TF2 players *

[@drake753]

@@troyoboyo17 well it would one shot every player to be fair

[@MarioGMan25]

Someone had an idea for Marvel Rivals. A companion mechanic to "Team Ups". "Rivalries". Essentially you get a unique buff if someone on the opposite team is your character's rival, where they *also* get the buff. The main example I've seen is Thing vs. Hulk. They both get decent defensive buffs *except* against each other, meaning that whenever they see each other on the field, it's encouraged to make them fight *on sight*, turning the game into a slobberknocker slugfest.

[@Cyclops1308]

This would work with Wolverine and Cyclops if cylcops gets added

[@digthesechild-bearinghipsb2842]

Lex should be a support character just so that his ultimate would be him stealing fifty cakes and restoring 50% of his team's health with them

[@SpectragonYT]

That’s even more than forty cakes!!

[@digthesechild-bearinghipsb2842]

@@SpectragonYT the villainous bastard

[@Satellaview1889]

@@SpectragonYT It's as many as five tens!

[@SpectragonYT]

@ And that's diabolical!

[@BaldianOfIbelin]

I'm not going to deny that I would love to see Lex Luthor return with his Bulky Servo armor that he had in the Injustice game.

[@negative1001]

That DVA/Hulk de-mech gimmick would honestly work really well with Bane imo. Have him need to inject venom into himself to power up, and once he "dies" he goes back and needs to charge up more

[@sneedclavehere8918]

I think that could also work for Scarecrow

[@matthazard2305]

It would be fun if Batman was an Utility Support. Instead of just healing, he could use his tech/detective skills to enable his teammates. Put down sonars to track enemies through walls, ziplines that let his teammates traverse through the map easier, maybe a beacon like Rocket Racoon's that dispenses healing/armor, so that he's not throwing "healing batarangs" around.

[@wet0wl]

I don’t agree with making Batman a healer but if he’s going into support you gotta commit. Otherwise there’s just a bunch of Batmen running around doing nothing but being a lacklustre dps.

[@Bunny2319b]

He seems more like a utility “duelist” rather than a support But idk. I feel like he should have combat focused abilities and have other members of the bat-family have a utility support. Maybe Nightwing since he’s been a leader & mentor to multiple teams. Way more often than Bruce. Should also pair well with Starfire who would be a damage character.

[@AquaStyles]

I agree with this bc I feel like the big 3 (Batman, Superman and Wonderwoman) should all rep different classes also batman could have recon abilities

[@potatofarmergyro1720]

Maybe he could even disarm traps and stuff so he would be a perfect counter to Joker

[@joshualosinski3544]

Batman as a healerrr?? No he should play lile moon knight on steroids

[@jokerthedreamer]

3:17 idc what ANYONE has to say, gotham city imposters was a certified hood classic

[@liamt4894]

I honestly had no idea that the game wasn’t received very well. It’s one of the most fun FPS games I have ever played.

[@khalled2419]

Facts, I loved it. Great game

[@Mark70775]

Legendary game

[@jffmcntire]

DUDE YEAH I LOVED THIS GAME BUT NOONE REMEMBERS IT😢

[@deedudedee5148]

Absolutely goated game can’t believe it was only out for two years

[@Je0s06]

Scarecrow as a Mysterio/Loki type character would go hard

[@nightshade3115]

scarecrow in general goes hard

[@Je0s06]

@@nightshade3115 hell yeah he does,my favorite comic book villain apart from Ultron.

[@PancakeCosmos]

@@Je0s06 is bro litterally me? (scarecrows my favorite comic villain, and Im starting to like ultron after getting more into marvel comics)

[@Je0s06]

@PancakeCosmos great minds think alike

[@Gunkerjunk]

@@Je0s06you two should e date

[@MarioGMan25]

Flash "rush to the nearest health pack" move would be *so toxic* and it's absolutely a good idea to make that one an extremely long cool down.

[@emperesque1218]

An idea I had was to make Barbara/Oracle the announcer for the game like how Galacta is in Marvel Rivals since she's tech support so she controls comms. It would be a cool way to include her.

[@BlueBlazeKing]

I’d go for Mister Mxyzptlk or Batmite

[@rayparker4231]

I think Metron should be the one to do the voiceover. He’s not super known to casuals but being a New God who is essentially the recorder of history and observes everything would be interesting imo. I really think they could make it work and help a character gain popularity also.

[@PancakeCosmos]

batmite, oracal, that superman villan (forgot how to spell his name) hell maybe darkside if its following the story he suggested? ALFRED alfred as the announcer it wouldn't make any sense I just want

[@shism28]

@@BlueBlazeKingcounterpoint, both, one for each team and the whole game is just them having an argument about which favourite characters beat the other

[@Satellaview1889]

Maybe it could be different across each map? Alfred for Wayne Manor, Jor-El for the Fortress of Solitude, Lucius Fox for Wayne Tech, Mxyzptlk for the 5th dimension? The options are endless!

[@wyguy_18]

Wonder Woman's lasso would be dope if it had an ability that reveals nearby enemy players if you grapple a teammate of theirs. Bring in the "of truth" element of it.

[@Kade_Kapes-w8i]

Cassandra Cain’s passive should be that she can tell everyone’s cooldowns and Ult charge just by looking at them

[@Neopolitan2024]

That matches her because she can read body language and movements

[@Kade_Kapes-w8i]

@ Yeah it’s sometimes hard to implement some of these characters’ more complicated powers but I think this is the best way to do Cass. Besides her passive, make her a mix of Black Panther and Iron Fist dive melee character.

[@thelast749]

Nah, give that to Calendar Man

[@Kade_Kapes-w8i]

@@thelast749 I don’t even know why Calendar Man would have that or why Calendar Man would be in the game over other characters.

[@vasconcelos7356]

​@@Kade_Kapes-w8i because it's funny as shit lmao

[@frostiix290]

Red Hood’s ult being something akin to Phoenix from Valorant where he takes a shot of Lazarus fluid and gains a “second life” with bonus buffs would be mad funny to see

[@frogboi7]

Danny the street would be an awesome KotH map, being reactive based on who’s winning/losing. I can already imagine the map having the bricks spell out “try harder” or the people on billboards pointing at enemies. Or even having lights flick on and off for health packs. Just a fully alive map that’s always changing things.

[@iamadogguys]

Batman as a support is actually genius, gives the option for the batfamily to be spread across all the roles too. Nightwing as a spiderman like duelist? Flipping around and stuff would be sick

[@Satellaview1889]

The real question is, which one would be the tank of the group? My proposal is simple: We make the Batmobile an independently playable character, and Alfred will be the other one.

[@Enimorj]

​@@Satellaview1889 Reed Hood is the tank, a mix of Thor and Winter Soldier, dive and high damage

[@Onlyafool172]

Red hood is litterraly the winter solidier

[@jech1216]

No u Lil minecraft heal soyboy,batman is obviously a duelist😂if anything make him a build-a-bat character since he has so many suits

[@iamadogguys]

@@Satellaview1889 Red hood could be a tank, he's commonly shown as like big and buff. Dudes like the bruiser of the batfamily

[@AC-03]

starfire as a dps where she can fly around like iron man, primary is a star-bolt blast, her secondary is a long range piercing beam, her ability changes her primary into a rapid fire infinite barrage for 3-6 seconds and her ult as a star-bolt burst kinda like how she does in her injustice super move or when she won against bizzaro in the comics

[@packman2321]

Definitely enjoying the idea of Batman as a support. That man has trained and supported more supheroes than half the DC universe aside from the Flash.

[@ccelite3782]

I'd feel like he'd be the Jeff of DC Rivals. Almost impossible to K/O while also being able to heal the whole team in a matter of seconds

[@thebatman6201]

My prep time is now your prep time. You're welcome

[@ren1tro]

Or maybe he could tell his contigency plans to the teamates and now they deal more damage to the other team

[@graveyardshift2100]

Also his various knowledges and skills can easily explain how he heals anyone he's paired with.

[@Sao_sea-light]

support who can beat the shit out off the enemy team but is squishy at the same time would be funny

[@HollowEarthling]

What if Danny the Street isn't a character himself, but he's an ultimate for Robot Man or someone. They lay Danny onto the map and everyone on the street gets buffs/debuffs? Danny could even warp players to objectives like Dr. Strange's portals!

[@somesonance]

Honestly would love to have Alfred Pennyworth in the game as DPS, not only because I want to go around as a butler with a shotgun taking down major league heroes, but also because itd be even more hilarious with Batman as support and Alfred as DPS.

[@rudysarmiento8700]

The biggest question is asking why would the butler of Wayne manner suddenly decided to pick up a shotgun and go to town on a god. I know he's military and special forces but in universe people are going to ask why is he running to almost certain death without a shred of fear. Would make some funny dialogue though like imagine in metropolis we have Lois as the announcer and we hear her through the screens and it zooms to Alfred and says "this is just in, the Wayne family butler Alfred Pennyworth had been spotted in the battle torn metropolis. So far he has been reported by eye witnesses to be welding a shotgun and is in the front lines with the likes of Superman and Wonder Wowan-" *Alfred kills livewire* "and Mr Pennyworth just finished off the villain Livewire with a headbut. Good luck out there Mr Pennyworth and don't keep the big man waiting, I hear he's worried for you back in gotham"

[@saelethil]

​@rudysarmiento8700an "all hands on deck" season introduces him? Either that or he uses the prototype batmam beyond suit that Bruce used to save McGuinness from Inque.

[@rudysarmiento8700]

@@saelethil okay but who else is gonna accompany him in that season, Lois Lane and Jim Gordon I guess? (what would any of their movesets be? Alfred included) But who else would fit the idea of no matter how weak you are in the grand scheme of things, you are just a human with an undominatable human spirit and would happily die in the front lines?

[@saelethil]

@rudysarmiento8700 thats a good question, honestly i don't have a lot of knowladge on the DC universe, so I wouldn't know who else would enlist. Perhaps instead of only humans, have like lesser (relatively) known characters join the fight that season. Like Waller finally decides to join in and moves Task Force X into the fight (or even Task Force M, since Creature Comandos is the start of the DCU, so people know about those underdogs and therefore there would be hype).

[@ajplayz4138]

I really love the idea of the big three of DC representing the three character roles, I’ve always sounded crazy to my friends when I said Batman should be a strategist when we talk about stuff like this 😂

[@KeetorangeMyr]

Team up ability ideas Wayne Tech -> Triggered by any bat family member + Batman. Gives them access to the grappling hook. It’s basic, but it’s giving them all an extra mobility option The Green -> Triggered by any 2 or more characters associated with the green. It’ll give damage up and increase health recovered from healing abilities for the Green characters Emotional spectrum -> Everyone of the team is a different lantern color…up everything, don’t care how busted it is. Everyone’s a white lantern now

[@Artryom]

The Wayne thing should be stat buffs like extra damage or speed, the Grappling hook ain’t just basic, it’s blehand debatable if they even come from Wayne tech anymore. Nightwing doesn’t use just the Grappling hook anymore, he’s got his own tech like his multi-use Escrima sticks he also uses as grappling mobility. Wayne tech -> Batfamily members + Batman gain an extra 10% DMG upgrade or takes -10% DMG.

[@MrNobodyx15]

green lantern, green arrow and the swamp thing as the team up for the green

[@lukefarrell1453]

@@MrNobodyx15 wouldn’t poison ivy make more sense for the green than green lantern since it’s to do with nature

[@MrNobodyx15]

@lukefarrell1453 yeah now that u remind me of it, it makes sense

[@treanmunt1420]

Im sure people would find a way to make that doomsday ability (where he dies and gains more health) super op Like they would just repeatedly jump of the map until they have insane amounts of health

[@danielwalker8133]

In that case they could make it so that he has to be killed by an enemy

[@blueeggs]

Or just put a cap on it??? Seems obvious.

[@jblazerndrowzy]

Or just make it a passive ability with a lengthy cooldown like Wolverine’s healing factor ability except not only do you get bonus health and not get KO’d, but you also get a massive damage boost

[@alienn13]

i love how whenever deathstroke shows up you always play not like us. It has become a channel tradition this point

[@crashedfilms5720]

For the Flash, I think he could work as a support by healing through sharing some of the speed force, which gives regeneration and a slight speed boost, and utilize his speed to disable devices and stun enemies, ripe for killing by teammates. Btw to appease Barry and Wally fans, just make one duelist and one support.

[@D--O]

9:00 nonono, you have to bully ONE guy, just the one. Take a health pack when he's dying and don't even kill him, target him always, spawn camp ONLY him, disregard the objective, their team, hell YOUR team, just so every time he spawns and walks through that door, he has to be afraid

[@Lolamy]

Ah, the Sombra classic

[@kannonsircy7748]

And right at the end of the match type, "IT WAS ME, (insert username here)/BARRY!" In the chat.

[@ianpolicarpio7969]

Okay Thanos

[@sino_diogenes]

@Lolamy flashbacks of keeping a poor Mercy in her spawn indefinitely

[@Lav140]

Dude might be the real reverse flash

[@COOLERthenU]

Call it "DC: ALLIES"

[@jacksoninskip1614]

Okay, Danny the Street as a stage would be pretty sick. Imagine all the street names, billboards and graffiti around the block just changing around depending on how the match is going. Like, a character gets a good kill and one of the billboards says “Nice one, Damian!”, or maybe you turn a corner into the alley while being attacked and the wall graffiti changes to say “Barry, look out!” I feel like this would be hard to program, but I still think it would be cool.

[@justalemur]

going with the idea of batman being a support character, giving more of his dps aspects to a character like killer moth could be a fun twist since he was initially supposed to be "the evil batman"

[@serbidian7140]

Superman's dive, which you likened to Venom's, can legit be just a generic superhero landing. Fits perfectly imo

[@FizzyWillOhNo]

I think the title for this hypothetical game would be "DC Olympians", as DC characters are often described as gods

[@goji253]

Would be a tad bit confusing considering the Olympians very much exist in DC already and have strong ties to at least two popular characters with Wonder Woman and Shazam.

[@FizzyWillOhNo]

@goji253 what about DC Pantheon?

[@rudysarmiento8700]

​@@FizzyWillOhNopossible but it doesn't work on all charecters, like no one is seeing green arrow as a god, same goes for a dozen of others

[@DaDualityofMan]

@rudysarmiento8700To be fair the first Injustice is subtitled “Gods Among Us” and has Green Arrow in it lol

[@emanuelezizza]

Batman as a support makes so much sense. He could have an ability like Ana's from OW where he targets an enemy and he can't be healed, almost like if he created a plan to separate that enemy from his team.

[@ebonkinght]

Agreed, i would make Jason Todd aka red hood the soldier 76 type of character in the game like Punisher in marvel rivials, like he uses daul machines or uses a rifle.

[@NotYourBoxy]

imagine how cool it would be if wonder woman's lasso pulled in an opponent and gave you and your team the location of all enemies for a few seconds

[@1OnlyAvocado]

Hawk & Dove could be the Cloak & Dagger character of the game

[@abiodunsulaiman2297]

@@1OnlyAvocado I'd have gone with the wonder twins honestly

[@orion-d1t]

​@@abiodunsulaiman2297the ability to become a puddle of water would be so fire

[@jeremiahbax03]

Yess they could be like dps/vanguard

[@jech1216]

So mid😂

[@Drcoomer69]

@@orion-d1tand a giraffe

[@joy4themightydonutchainsaw620]

You can even make an argument that Hela is more neutral than just evil. Could be wrong but I’m thinking of how she was portrayed in Hulk vs Thor.

[@Pop-CultureMan]

Plastic Man could be so much more than copy-and-paste Mr. Fantastic. He would be such a zany, smooth, and fun character to play as who can genuinely shapeshift!

[@bembus8616]

my absolute delight hearing your plan for making batman a strategist

[@Jonas-iw1zd]

I like the idea of making the gameplay on a larger scale. To give an analogy, dc rivals should be like the battlefield games as rivals is to CoD. Imagine a sprawling metropolis map where if you’re Batman, you can fight on foot or hop in one of his vehicles and fight an enemy in their vehicles. Imagine like a reskinned BF1 with additional gameplay elements of epic DC character battles of 12v12 over strategic objectives

[@jech1216]

Npcs want instant gratification Lil bro the game will die so fast not like DC isn't already doing bad😂

[@zoompidity1816]

I second this but make it like the EA Star wars battlefield type where instead of storm troopers its just Jedis vs. Siths on the field, hell you can even thrown in the mandalorians in there lol but I like the idea of how powerful all this heroes are in a big battlefield while also having vehicles to call in for support or drived in and all that makes sense for batman and lex honestly.

[@lukahumar1371]

Just the team-up ability that lets any Kryptonian, Lantern, Amazon or Flash to pick up and carry their BatFam and Arrow teammate. Because, yeah, it is accurate, Superman and Supergirl have been shown picking up and flying their little Bat (Batman and Dick Grayson's Robin) around, Lanterns often bubble their non-flying teammates to carry them places, and Wally and Dick have a whole princess-carry-the-bat-and-run thing. It's also real funny and opens the idea for fun dialogs: Superman: Up you go, Batman! Batman: I still don't like this. Wonder Woman: How's my favorite Robin doing? Red Hood: Oh, you know, died, came back, no big deal. Wally's Flash: One ticket for the Flash Train, please! Nightwing: I can't believe we couldn't find a better way for you to carry me.

[@saelethil]

​@lukahumar1371 of course, it'd have to be a mutual thing, cause i can already see someone picking flash out of spite for their own batfam and throwing them off cliffs

[@micah2711]

Chill bro

[@CamTheWarlock]

Batman definitely seems like he could work as a niche type of support, where instead of healing damage he works to prevent that damage from being taken in the first place. He’ll buff his allies, while weakening his enemies. He could provide shields and extra weapons to help his team, while staying hidden and only joining the fight once his team has the advantage. Don’t have Batman rush into fights like a normal fighting role, have him lurk, study and help his allies first before combat.

[@SmashBroD]

"Its been three years"

[@danielwalker8133]

Wails in Elder Scrolls

[@hectorlecastor3108]

You still owe me 16 dollars.

[@wendigo1_181]

SCREAMS IN SILKSONG

[@RemeTiers]

@@wendigo1_181ITS COMING THIS YEAR YOU GOTTA TRUST ME

[@saintdane7336]

Honestly wish they’d gone the route of yes, keeping Hawkeye and potentially Green Arrow as duelists, but my brother in Christ: *WHERE ARE ALL OF THE TRICK ARROWS???*

[@dallynfr]

you could have a Lantern for each role, Guy as a Vanguard, Hal and John as Duelists, I just want Blue Lantern Kyle or Jess as a Strategist

[@thebatman6201]

Killowog for vanguard, come on bro

[@graveyardshift2100]

Nah, give me Killowog

[@VOID_GENESIS]

I need atrocitus as a vanguard IMMEDIATELY

[@macaemeia146]

What what about my guy Simon?

[@crisisboy5822]

Larfleeze as a vanguard would go hard

[@juangonzalez740]

Poison Ivy as a healer would be dope. She could easily use vines to stun enemies and shoot pheromones that heal or hurt. And of course Harley is the perfect duelist, I think she could be a bit like Psylocke being a very mobile flanker who needs to swoop in with her guns and disappear.

[@garrettelstran9813]

I want Star Sapphire as a healer! Maybe she could heal more if Hal is nearby, i think that’d be cool

[@jaegerwhatifs4679]

Or Saint Walker in the exact same way, but he has a team up ability with the Green Lanterns that boosts their damage.

[@Ollyatlas]

​@jaegerwhatifs4679 especially cus blue lanterns require a nearby greenie to use their power

[@santiagoacosta3372]

​@jaegerwhatifs4679I was thinking the same thing! Saint walker is my goat and I love him

[@Daniel-si7zp]

Her love for Hal allows her to maybe heal people faster

[@thatsplinter]

Man i would absolutely NEED Lobo in this game. Big beefy tank. Give him passive health regeneration, make him fight with his chain and double barrel shotgun. He wouldn't be a protector type, but man he would be a distraction. His ult could be him hopping on his space bike, getting the ability to fly and pulling out some big guns, just shooting as he flies around.

[@suto5704]

I think Zatanna could be a very cool healer. She could do stuff like convert damage done to heals or shields. Idk I'd have to brainstorm more, but her kit could be insane. Her abilities just have so much potential for a game like Rivals

[@caracalMargot]

I've been wanting to play AS Poison Ivy in a video game for so so long. She's my favorite character of all time, of any franchise. I think she could work wonderfully as a tank (using her plants as walls or whatever) but the design wouldn't work well for a bulky looking character, unless she was sitting on a plant and having it walk her around to make her stand out a bit more. I think that with her spores, infecting people in two different ways, such as 1 being a sleep that lasts a short time and has a 9 second cooldown, or something that infects the enemy and turns them into something like a Namor turret that fires at enemies for a few seconds but has a longer cooldown. Having 3 plants that you place around the map for healing and slowing enemies too. For a tank ultimate, it'd likely just be something like Groot's, and for a support ultimate, it'd infect everybody in an area and force them to shoot at each other like a slow body-shot only turret.

[@batofkrypton9765]

She is in injustice 2 bro

[@caracalMargot]

@@batofkrypton9765 I know! Unfortunately I dropped Injustice 2 for Dragon Ball FighterZ, Guilty Gear Strive, and Street Fighter 6, and I have no desire to go back to Injustice 2 at all :( I still miss my fave character, I just want her in a game that I enjoy (I never liked Injustice 2 to begin with, the gameplay never felt great to me and I just liked it for the characters I could play). Poison Ivy's powerset is also in DC Universe Online, and it wasn't dreadful, I just don't like the game. I could have phrased the original comment better though!

[@tanner2238]

The Question. I have no clue what class he'd be but the idea of an uber paranoid conspiracy theorist fits into a video game character so well

[@samclayton628]

Utility strategist maybe? I think this game would need a class that’s got a lot of tactical benefits but doesn’t heal per se

[@Sauvva_]

@@samclayton628 but also he could heal, isnt his mask made of sintetic skin? he could totally seal wounds

[@samclayton628]

@@Sauvva_ it feels like a little bit of a stretch, but they could make it work. Question is a good chemist

[@e.t.6424]

For literally anything involving DC, I just want to see Firestorm. Please.

[@luigiscartoons9223]

If killer moth isn't a strategist/duelist, I'll riot- I need killer moth. I know you want killer moth, troyoboyo!!

[@madelynspindle8797]

KILLER MOTH SUPREMACY!!!!

[@DaKillaMoth]

MOTH! MOTH!

[@interstellergrapefruit]

MOTH THE GOAT

[@cleanupguy3934]

KILLER MOTH!!!

[@Sgr667]

Goated pfp​@@DaKillaMoth

[@ColinRoese]

Hear me out, Killer Croc as a tank, with a more animalistic look like a tail and a more crocodilian snout for tail whips and bite attacks basically making him a cross of Jeff and Venom (minus the healing and teather obviously). I just want my boy Waylon to get some love

[@tjxshippuden467]

Batman as support genuinely makes sense , he could be a mobile support with a glide, martial arts moves for cooldown abilities and primary fire of battarangs

[@gdiego135]

Have him turn into a small plane to get away, and his ULT maybe a giant semi truck to bulldoze

[@rampant1apart]

I feel like something interesting with Zatanna could be done. Where her projectiles could go forwards or backwards. Like her speech. Something like that.

[@joshuabarnard5702]

To add onto your point about the “Rivals” aspect and the inclusion of more villains, what could set this game apart is if was 6v6 of Team Heroes vs Team Villains. Essentially Justice League vs Legion of Doom. Especially with how the theme of good vs evil is still very central to DC. A fun premise might be to take inspiration from the recent World’s Finest story (or the first Marvel’s Secret Wars) and have it be 5D Imps holding a competition to determine if earth’s heroes or villains are greater. In general having Mr. Mxy and the 5D Imps filling the Galacta role would be fun and an opportunity for unique gameplay elements, and a way for any “game-ification” to feel natural. Though having it be strictly heroes vs villains probably would not actually work, since it would be a nightmare for balancing. And probably not popular since most people would probably just want to play as the heroes, and not have their character selection limited. But it was just an idea. Definitely need more villain representation though!

[@Morfe02]

Cyborg IS the muscle if you watch Teen Titans LOL but he is smart and drops nukes like Ironman in Rivals Raven could be Strategist and DPS by switching like Cloak and Dagger or Hela in Smite, healing with the White cape and dmg with the purple cape !

[@henriquemurilo5890]

4:45 Taking inspiration from the Tower of Babel as the basis for the game's story is a brilliant move

[@a_rat6194]

It could be cool if the villain character have kits specifically designed to kill the heroes, that way you can balance characters without debuffing them

[@graveyardshift2100]

One issue with tanks that a lot of people are forgetting, is that they need that big hit box. It's the offset and balance to them having the health and armor that they do. Rivals is certainly proving that the roles don't have to be absolute. Captain America is a tank that functions more like a dps, but he doesn't have the same health as the larger tanks. Same for Dr Strange and his shield. Sue being a strategist instead of a vanguard or duelist works because her kit is designed armor actually making her powers work for the game. She gives shields that her team can hide behind (healing by catching their breath) pushes and pulls enemies away, and more importantly, turns herself and everyone else invisible. Tanks/vanguards still need that larger hit box though. I'd say Superman as a tank with at least one ability to shield allies, Wonder Woman as a damage with additional defense granted by her bracelets, and Batman as a support with stun and evasive abilities. This type of setup also helps the perception of what characters are more powerful than the others, since the more street level human characters would be mainly support while the more powerful ones are frontliners and damage dealers.

[@comicfan1324]

Speaking as a Batman fan and as someone who’s played a lot of Marvel rivals… Making Bruce a support character is perfect Everyone always goes on about how Bruce is a master strategist who can prepare and adapt for almost any situation he’s in. That’s where the whole Batman prep time meme comes from. So why not make him an actual strategist in game? Plus, I think that would be quite a character for him given the setting. Batman isn’t going to be the front runner tanking hits from Darkseid, he’s gonna be working from the shadows, supporting his team and taking out whatever enemies he comes across. And even with all that being said, if you know how to play as a strategist character, you can do a lot of damage to the enemy team, you just have to balance that with supporting your team. Edit: to give a comparison, the best way I’ve found to play as someone like rocket raccoon in Marvel rivals during capture. The base missions is to take advantage position high up where you can see the base and any areas where the rival team can intercept your team. From there, you will alert to your team to the threat and heal them from your vantage point while occasionally shooting any enemies that get too close to you. I could see Batman working in a very similar way. Bruce isn’t stupid, he’s not going to solo the entire legion of doom, and said he’s going to coordinate with the rest of the justice league to take them down while playing an active role.

[@DareToEntertain]

I could never do a "DC roster" fairly because it would be 99% the Batman roster and rogues... GIVE ME BANE, CLAYFACE AND THEM ALL! But I loved this video and really happy you doubled dipped on rivals

[@haserrea]

i would hate that so much

[@SirYEET0403]

So real, I need Jason to be in every single dc production ever

[@abiodunsulaiman2297]

​@@haserreacounterpoint:I wanna play as scarecrow

[@dariodramac]

Counterargument:i would indubitably enjoy playing as bane and ulting(back breaking) Alfred.​@@abiodunsulaiman2297

[@JUANxxTNAFAN]

Injustice 2 had way too many Bat characters, we don’t need a repeat of that with a DC rivals

[@sunsaintapollo1]

Batman can have a passive ability called "prep time" where if the player can keep their reticle on an enemy for 3 secs without taking damage, they'll find a "weakness" in the enemy, allowing them to do more damage

[@Hybatt]

Dc also has plenty of Map ideas to pull from, Gotham, metropolis, central city, themyscira, Atlantis, OA, a future stage based around the legion of superheroes, Gorilla city, the watchtower, also have specific locations as arcade stages like titans tower, Arkham asylum, black gate and the flash museum, you mentioned him as playable character in the video but Danny the street or call him Danny the stage could be a awesome map and play into all the doom patrol wackiness also Mogo the living planet green lantern could be the same

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

También apocalyse y warworld sería genial

[@FloralHaze]

Support Batman is the realest sentence ever said

[@gorilla8811]

If there is a DC hero shooter, i’d go with the paladins route of having 4 roles. Tank, Disrupt, Dps, Support.

[@acrsclspdrcls1365]

How do they work exactly? I'm not familiar with Paladins although I've heard it mentioned several times now I never got to really check it out.

[@lukahumar1371]

In that case, Batman would definitely be a Disrupt type

[@vanguardbreaker8826]

@@acrsclspdrcls1365 Tank and support are very similar to Rivals' vanguard and strategist, albeit with support more firmly based on healing and shields/barriers. DPS and Disrupts are kinda cousins- they're both primarily damage classes, but in different ways. DPS is for snipers that can twoshot a whole health bar, constant spray that you have to get out from the fireline of or you die in a few seconds, etc. Whereas Disrupts usually pack a stealth ability and can give out debuffs like vulnerability and weakening damage output, and are more maneuvreable with jumps and dodges- they take longer to get kills and are certainly more suited to assists, but imo still very valuable- when i played, I mained a stealther that got behind enemy lines and dropped a giant explosion that could total party wipe.

[@ivanbilobrk4696]

Skye? ​@@vanguardbreaker8826

[@circIing]

god if there was anything like this it would be so fun to see more lonnie machin as a strategist type character

[@Persephone_ch]

Me and my friends were having a long talk about this just the other day. Make Booster Gold a support where Skeets has a healing beam and a timestop grenade like mantis. His ult is the same as Luna snow where he just does a big over dramatic speech that heals allies. A mini Starro with a heal beam who can buff allies and his ult is taking control of an enemy forcing the enemies to kill their own ally. Harry Quinn with a revolver and shotgun combo like Winter Solider and Punisher. Power Girl mainly uses her heat vision for her basic while Superman punches. She's a DPS that rushes in unlike her reserved cousin and her ultimate causes her to summon either Krypto or Streaky to do massive area of effect damage like a Psylocke ult. Poison Ivy summons a garden and allies that die in it get revived and she has a poison kiss move that can stun flankers. It goes on and on.

[@DanBharry]

Batman as support makes sense, its functionally what he operates as within the JL itself. Perhaps having a batman as strategist in a full JL team lineup gives them the babel protocols so they do more damage to JL members on the enemy team.

[@williamedge5130]

Batman as a support is easy Main attack is his batarangs - pretty much work as you expect, but I’d also put a slight rebuff on enemies hit after they take a certain amount of damage His secondary is throwing smoke bombs that slow enemies and heal allies while they remain in the area - he gets a few of these before it goes on cool-down (As a bonus, members of the Bat Family who get hit with these smoke bombs initially get a few seconds of invisibility) For movement he gets his grappling hook and a glide - Moon Knight basically nailed it He gets a revival power - Robin Rescue. Mark an ally initially and if they die while marked you can point to an area where they respawn in a puff of smoke with Robin grappling out Hus ultimate I imagine is kind of like Invisible Woman’s, where he uses the Dark Knight/Year one “summon a bunch of bats with sonar” gadget

[@BeyondTrash-xe1vs]

I really love this character concept you came up with!

[@Kiernimbus]

This is a great concept.

[@blissfulfluff6382]

Aye this is a really solid concept u got there 👍

[@KevinCow]

There are endless possibilities but it's DC so the roster would be 80% Batman characters.

[@batofkrypton9765]

And they'd ruin the game like SS KTJL, Gotham Knights, Multiversus

[@milkiassamuel780]

Id honestly love to imagine what a DC Marvel Rivals could look like as there's tons of great characters to pick from.

[@danielwolf4196]

Batman as a support character is actually such a cool idea. Rather than being a healing based support maybe his kit would focus on giving his teammates buffs or information like being able to track enemies or get other info for his teammates, really playing up the detective side of his character

[@Saturnlock]

I think Red Hood could be a really fun tank. It'd be nice to have various batfam members be different types. Like Bruce and Tim being Strategists, Damien and Dick being Duelists, and Jason and I guess Luke or Barbara being tanks.

[@jamespopcornfrfr]

I see Wonder Woman as both a DPS and a tank, similar to Mr. Fantastic

[@Gitsnshiggles-o9r]

Dex-Star being a duelist is all I need. Literally one of the best DC characters ever made

[@amir_kazbek]

8:47 The problem with different voices for different skins is that they would have to keep bringing the second va back for all future recordings (new hero interactions or story voice lines) just for one skin

[@Im_Vesper]

Larfleeze could be a Strategist with an ult that takes away every enemies abilities within a distance of him. Poison Ivy could be like a mix of Groot and Namor, setting up walls and plant turrets around the map. Mirror Master could be a tank with a giant mirror shield. There's tons you could do.

[@UlyssesPSC]

Superman having a SOLAR FLARE as an ult would be amazing. imagine it's like Scarlet Witch's pure chaos with a shorter charge up? that'd be awesome!!

[@ninjajack6457]

They should have Robby Reed from Dial H For Hero but he’s just the random character button

[@macaemeia146]

Yes

[@mr.chimmins]

DC Allies is lookin lit, can't wait for The Boys Oppositions and Invincible Opposites

[@abiodunsulaiman2297]

@mr.chimmins ben 10 adversaries

[@mr.chimmins]

@@abiodunsulaiman2297 power rangers fiends

[@lukefarrell1453]

@@abiodunsulaiman2297 a Ben 10 shooting game could actually go crazy

[@adwitatherealadwita]

I think your concept of The Flash (particularly Wally) being a support is a very fun one to explore. He could have a separate consumable "Speed Force" ammo that his abilities would use, like Mantis' Life Orbs or Thor's Thorforce. Give him four. Like Mantis. Have him heal a little bit each time he uses them. Kinda like Mantis... He could expend one to throw a bolt of Speed Force lightning at a teammate as an alt. fire, it heals them and gives a movement boost (by imbuing his allies with the energy of the Speed Force he causes their bodies to accelerate, which includes their rate of cellular regeneration). He's obviously gonna have a big dash ability, but I think it'd be cool if it was similar to both Cloak & Dagger's ultimate and Captain America's dash. Any allies he passes through/near will be healed a bit, but if he touches an enemy, he stops. Hitting an enemy triggers a sort of mini-Infinite Mass Punch that knocks them back and deals decent damage. This would probably expend two Speed Force Charges. The reason I mention it being Wally in particular is because I want to steal from Hela, have Wally's ability to steal speed (yeah, yeah, I know Barry can do it too) act similarly to her stun orb as he drains an enemy's momentum and brings them to a complete halt (and deals a little damage.) Now, this could just be another generic lightning animation, but I personally think it would be way cooler if you took from Red Rush. In the animated version of Invincible, Omi-Man v.s. The Guardians of The Globe is like, an actual fight. When War Woman and Omni-Man are swinging at eachother, we see for a brief moment Omni-Man is about to throw a punch and Red Rush runs in to counter it before running back out, and I think that is a significantly cooler visual. I'm thinking this is just a cooldown ability like Mantis' sleep spore (that's the last time I'm saying Mantis I swear.) If he misses he obviously wastes it but maybe he regains a Speed Force Charge if it hits. For his third ability I was thinking he spends three speed force charges to do the Iron Fist thing where he becomes Genji for a few seconds (his role as a Support would recontextualize this ability's purpose; he could use it for self-preservation but also a pseudo-tanking ability to protect his teammates.) He snatches up projectiles because it's always fun to see him catch a bunch of bullets. Maybe as he does this he has a small healing over time area of effect, so if he's standing in front of a teammate to protect them that teammate gets healed, and he gives himself some temp health. Now we can take the Mister Fantastic approach and have him shoot a projectile back, but I specified Iron Fist because I want him to clap back with a stronger version of his primary fire. For his primary fire I think he should just straight up punch people, but that might not synergize well with his role, therefore I'd like to re-use that little Red Rush example. It'd be cool if it was technically a "ranged" attack, but the animation implied that he ran up to someone and punched them, then ran back to his position. You could play around with streaks of lightning and afterimages to give that effect. After he uses his parry, the boosted version could have him just actually lock onto someone and hit them for big damage and knockback, or lock onto an ally and give them a big heal. The normal primary fire could be called "Supersonic Punch" and the upgraded version could be called "Infinite Mass Punch". I think his ultimate would be really cool if they made it a composite of Psylocke's and Luna Snow's. He makes a big AoE he can drag around where he's dashing around at super speed and you can alternate between damaging enemies or healing allies (like how Luna can alternate between healing her team or providing a damage boost.) He's either running around kicking the enemy team's ass as they're scrambling to escape, or he's running around blocking attacks and catching projectiles while his team gets healing over time. Call it "Fastest Man Alive" or something, that'd be cool. He can obviously wall-run as a passive but I think he should also get a temporary movement boost when he takes damage. Though I do recognize people would want a DPS speedster too. Which is also why I propose Zoom to fill that role. As for what the team-up equivalents would be, I'm clinging on to the fact that you called it "DC Friends." Marvel RIVALS is a game where you derive additional power from synergizing character picks with your teammates, so I think it'd be quite comical if in DC Friends/Partners/Accomplices/whatever you got extra abilities based on characters who are canonical enemies. So if you have a Flash and a Zoom on your team, they get a team-up ability. But also, if there's a Flash on your team and a Zoom on the ENEMY team, it still triggers a "team-up" ability. Holy yap. Anyway, we need Shuma-Gorath in Marvel Rivals as a Strategist.

[@brohiddlesby7010]

What if Beast Boy was designed to be able to switch between tank, duelist and strategist roles based on different animal forms? I guess kinda like how Cloak and Dagger operate in Rivals.

[@rudysarmiento8700]

The problem is that he really needs to have a good balance so we could make it like use his ult gauge I guess but I'm not sure

[@lukefarrell1453]

You cooked 🎉

[@legogoka-boomstudio1838]

I feel like each part of the trinity should be a different type to give them that since of being the stars in their leagues and a fantastic unit together So Superman tank, Wonder Woman dps, and Batman support

[@adricabrera9592]

Scarecrow would be amazing if his ult was that he injects an enemy with fear toxins, or an AOE, and every player turns from their perspective into a monster, making the player unable to differentiate his team members and switching on friendly fire. The chaos would be legendary

[@quietchap]

I think a good double character a la Cloak and Dagger would be Mr Miracle and Big Barda. I like the idea of Scott being able to heal and jump in/out of the fight with Barda, who attacks with melee. One of the best powers in couples in comics, and a pretty niche part of the universe

[@MartinGrendele]

Absolutely criminal my girl Zatanna was not mentioned. Her or Fate would make great debuff strategists. Which is what I wanted Doctor Strange to be in Rivals.

[@MindMovie77]

Clayface would be such a cool character. His shapeshifting along with his ability to change the shape and size of his body would be so fun to play.

[@appl3s0ft]

Batman being a strategist that helps his teammates while Joker being a strategist that makes life hard for the enemy team is such a brilliant idea. Never would have thought of that in my life but you really nailed their dynamic. I also think Deadshot could work as a cross between Widowmaker/Cassidy - just give him an ult like Deadeye called "I Never Miss"

[@nurannahadiislam7940]

Man this is making me really theory craft a DC Rivals. Never had so much fun doing it before. Thanks Netease.

[@19nmiller1]

Zatanna would be awesome!! The most obvious role would be a strategist, especially since she has canon healing abilities. But, she could be a very complex character with a lot of abilities. Stuff like controlling different elements to either heal or inflict different types of damage, like a fire ability that burns opponents or heals allies over a period of time or an electrical burst that applies more damage to enemies with metal or buffs her teammates. She could teleport allies or even enemies. Her ultimate could also be something really cool like being able to manipulate time or space on the field, like reversing damage done in a specific period of time or slowing down enemies momentarily. You could get really creative with her.

[@maylie1234]

I love how you brought up the newer generations of heroes fufilling different roles like Supergirl, Robin, and Cass Cain cause that's one of my fave things about DC is how interconnected the superhero community is!! Like I know Marvel never really got into the sidekick scene after the death of Bucky, but I love superhero families! Like I love the idea Cass Cain being this super speedy and sneaky duelist with smoke bombs and maybe some sort of lock on ability where she can deal extra damage if you get a combo going. Or Supergirl being more of a speedy brawler to contrast Superman! And maybe her and Superman could have a team up together where they can sorta charge each other up by sticking close to one another! Hell, I could see Kon-El as another good choice for tank where he throws up sheilds like Groot's with his ttk and maybe have a lot of like enemy movability like Sue Storm!

[@Natboy129]

I kinda need Batman as a support character now jesus Literally tricking people into playing support its brilliant, AND he had a lore reason to be

[@natagu5794]

It might be a weird idea, but Cyborg should be a tank, that can heal people. Like, he would have mainly tank abilities, but he has one skill that is specifically created to heal teammates.

[@Fluffy_W]

heavy TF2

[@Lordrockerkiller]

To me personally, I think the best we have ever gotten with a dc game full of multiple different characters, was the Infinite Crisis MOBA game they released in 2015, while of course they had all their more well known names, they also included characters like Atrocitus, Blue Beetle, Katana, Shazam (before the movie made him popular), Stargirl, Zatanna, some incredibly nieche characters at the time and even incorporated the Crisis plotline into including different universes as a gameplay mechanic. Where you might have 2 green lanterns, but one was a tank while the other is a dps because of which universe they came from.

[@Super-Nerd]

DANNY THE STREET as a playable character is Wild 😭

[@TonySmythTreeBTW]

The best part about DC is that the powersets are identiacal for some of the mainline cast's villains. Flash has the Reverse, Green Lantern has Sinestro. So for a hero game like you've described, maybe instead of skins, put both characters in the game but in separate roles, and give them a team up ability. Food for thought.

[@jetray8847]

The whole team “team ups” do sound cool, but I do feel like it could cause some animosity. It’s fun to get to play as whoever you want in these games. So your whole team being angry at you because you don’t want to be Hawk Girl to fill out a Justice league roster doesn’t sound like a fun experience.

[@JimmyBusher]

you get a team up If you have two or more characters in the justice league but the buff isn't as much as if you have a full roster

[@caracalMargot]

@@JimmyBusher This would also help in a beneficial way, having an incomplete Justice League and a character that supports them all, making the team overall stronger. Much more teamup potential with two or three characters being buffed for being teammates and the rest of the team being better in solo compositions.

[@saucylot3235]

This guy really looks like the kind of guy to build a DC Rivals Roster

[@LabRatz-Ivor]

3:39 DCUO MENTIONED HELL YEAH BOIS

[@Matt-yj1lz]

DC universe Online is the OG

[@kuchenjaeger2164]

Batman as a support is a great idea. If you still want him to deal some damage, he could have a passive that increases his damage the longer the match lasts. Call it "Prep time".