While I feel like I stepped back to the 80's as a student trucker I found the information helpful. My instructor called it Stabbing but described it the same.
@conservativeyank54813 жыл бұрын
i do not remember going thru this at all when i went to school? nor do i remember setting me trailer axles back
@hollywood57038 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I pull bottom dumps with a small CAT motor in a Peterbilt with 650,000 miles and a weak jake. It's no fun going downhill. The advice here is what I knew all along, snub enough to reduce mph by 5, and in truck school it was said don't use the brakes over 25% of the time. In other words, riding the brakes downhill is NOT to be done.
@jeffforester28468 жыл бұрын
That is so right, that wasn't taught in the early 80's to me anyhow.... I had to learn the hard way.
@Drew.Joseph2 жыл бұрын
25 years experience here and I still watch videos like this now and then and sometimes still learn things. Great video. New drivers should be taught with manual transmissions and no jakes just to have a better understanding of how to react in an emergency situation. I've driven automatics and although they are nice, it's easy to really too much on the truck to do the work for you.
@johnferguson72358 жыл бұрын
I learned most of this when my dad taught me how to drive a car. I laugh when I see drivers applying their brakes all the way down a grade. They keep the brake shops busy.
@tinicoleofficial3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!😂 I hate to see it
@tjlovesrachel Жыл бұрын
Brake shop… what’s that?
@Djura1 Жыл бұрын
It's fascinating that I used to brake like that, without even knowing that truckers technique.
@johnwolf14753 ай бұрын
no they keep morgues busy
@MrMarkpeggy11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff for sharing your video. It's always good to get a reminder from a professional like you. You are a good guy. Keep up the good work. May God bless you!
@mikeduda14728 жыл бұрын
if u can come to a complete stop without your foot brakes,using nothing but your Jake brake , your in the right gear for the hill
@danstafford59774 жыл бұрын
Not true you'll never learn how to break and you won't be able to follow posted speed... also the commentator never once mentioned the ABS automatic braking system that trucks have nowadays!
@askhowiknow55272 жыл бұрын
I love the way this guy talks. He's a smooth operator no homo
@marioguimond4276 Жыл бұрын
Done mountains with multiple 10% grade fully load super B of jet fuel 63 ton for the first time let me tell you the first hill made me live a little brown streak after that smooth sailing
@augerauger547910 жыл бұрын
Entering a downgrade at a safe, controlled speed as indicated at 8:56 can save one a lot of anxiety as they get further into the grade.
@drichardson113632 жыл бұрын
You right. I was taught to be in 7th when approaching a grade and adjust speed and gear near the crest
@ninonicebx3 жыл бұрын
9th Sept 2021. Still great information. Great tutorial. Thank you.
@HyperActive711 жыл бұрын
This applies to any truck that can pull a trailer. Mine is equipped to do so with a hitch so thanks for sharing this Jeff.
@PC_CERTIFIED9 жыл бұрын
I have been driving like this for years before I watched this video and now I know why I don't have to replace brakes this also explains why I drive other vehicles and the brakes suck
@46fd043 жыл бұрын
The old rule I was told was, go DOWN the hill in the same gear you would use going UP the hill. "Snubbing" the brakes works well too.
@johnsarab45002 жыл бұрын
What they don't tell you is what to do in a braking emergency. 1. go full jake 2. get them downshift DONE!!! 3. STAND on that god damn brake pedal- let 'em burn! 4. make plan if it all goes to hell. I got down Donner Pass O.K. by doing all of the above. And when you stop, throttle up and alternate tractor/trailer brake release to give them a cooling air gap.
@BobirJon3698 жыл бұрын
I'll crossing at least once a week from the dangerous mountain's of Pennsylvania's, WEST Virginia's, and sometimes Tennessee's it'll be tech you automatically how to control even you're student driver when you had with heavy load!
@mrfermec940210 жыл бұрын
I gotta steep climb/decent coming up soon with a 12ton rated equip trailer loaded to the max with paving equip behind a heavy kW 10wheeler with a bc350= not happy, kinda scared lol wish me luck. Snub snub SNUB!!
@MrWhite-pn7ui8 жыл бұрын
How'd it go?
@BruceOBruce7 жыл бұрын
i think it went badly
@FRESHKIDD23BRO6 жыл бұрын
Mr Fermec Are u alive?
@joyprotrucking88983 жыл бұрын
It's a technique I have come to learn from this channel and I use it cause the truck I drive has no working engine brake
@_decky4ever_3 жыл бұрын
All motorized vehicles have engine brake, just lift ur leg up from the gas pedal :)
@cretejake343014 жыл бұрын
I'm just letting all the newbies no when your brakes are hot and you stopped your truck. Do not apply Park breaking. Specially in the winter. Chalk your wheels and put the transmission in reverse if you're on flat ground. Or also lower your landing gear on the trailer if you do not want to put your transmission in reverse.
@corypearson38923 жыл бұрын
Why? What if it’s manual?
@truckingwithtobee Жыл бұрын
You should be teaching the new based always use their Jake’s. If you’re using your Jakes properly and downshifting, you shouldn’t be having issues with your brakes being too hot.
@4x41986ranger8 жыл бұрын
gear down and use your engine brake. and you don't need your service brakes untill you hit 8 to 10 miles per hour or so. basicly coming to a stop sign. Red light. ect. if your doing it right.
@jeffforester28468 жыл бұрын
if you follow these directions in the video to the T. You will be surprised at the temp of the brakes....
@Joseph796254 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chief for the great tips. Great learning Teacher
@Cars_pov233 жыл бұрын
Apply ur retarder fully Apply brakes for 3 second Release the pedal Let it cool off If u feel like going fast again reapply the brake.
@ILOVECHICKEN6984 жыл бұрын
Very good instructor very professional
@mohammadshahrahimi19862 жыл бұрын
Fantastic… instructions n so helpful. Thank u.
@osey8811 жыл бұрын
whats going on crazy trucker we all wish you was back on the road you made some great trucking vid we will see you later old buddy Rickey oswalt
@miekylamason27348 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. this is a good excellent this is how we should learn be bless
@mikeduda14728 жыл бұрын
if u gotta touch your foot brakes down the hill , your in to high of a gear
@ad3567 жыл бұрын
outlawing jake brakes is just stupid, especially in an area with steep grades. safety or some yuppie complaining about noise, which one is more important. without the jake your going to heat your brakes up and then they become less effective.
@mikepech16486 жыл бұрын
newer jakes are alot quieter. the old Detroits and Cummins would rattle windows in a little town at night lol. Especially the the old V8 jimmys . They sounded like a truckload of firing machine guns especially at night with area with an echo. They were awesome with straight pipes for going by your ex wifes house as well.. Other than that, just keep it in a low enough gear to hold it back on the engine. The 5 minutes your saving isn't worth the cost of the brake wear. But getting the ex may be worth it in your eyes lol
@aacc22163 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Raphael0987658 жыл бұрын
to brake downhill i always trow my anchor....
@johnferguson72358 жыл бұрын
You can also just run up in back of another truck and use his brakes.
@jeffforester28468 жыл бұрын
lol
@GoogleAccount-hr9yx8 жыл бұрын
+John Ferguson. haaa
@Dimeinurear Жыл бұрын
Excellent advice.
@loiranaestrada5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@mikeduda14728 жыл бұрын
turn your engine fan on & Ull get 10% more power outta your Jake brake
@ad3567 жыл бұрын
i did not know that. thanks, driver.
@sabrinacordell62906 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@bloodmoongrizzlythefirst64925 жыл бұрын
Yeah and guess what You also start heating shit up. Engine temps go up. Pyrometer will go wtf... yeah good advice..
@estebanamador76013 жыл бұрын
I have a 0.8 tons Suzuki Alto 800, and I use the air conditioner in first gear, on a 25% grade, It feels like an exhaust brake 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@DJSTOEK2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@gregorywilliams376910 ай бұрын
That's not happening in today's all automatic transmission and week engines, I'm driving a new 2023 Cascadia with No manual option.
@VOOODOOO377 жыл бұрын
we used to call it Mexican neutral, go neutral down hill and coast uphill
@cujbaion15 жыл бұрын
Snub seems to be used due to drum brakes and probably uneven pressure released from relays,and few other imperfections
@Bendigo14 жыл бұрын
Snub/stab braking is used so that all the brakes help slow you, light brake pedal pressure may only apply pressure to a few brakes due to bad adjustment/mechanical issues. Stab braking is also best with self adjustable brakes because feathering/dragging does not make the cam go far enough to click the next adjustment level.
@wolfcardnas36733 жыл бұрын
It's always good to inspect the brakes before going down grade
@doelaevans442110 жыл бұрын
This is good stuff
@AwesomePlaylists8882 жыл бұрын
Use whatever level braking effect of the engine to maintain a safe speed
@dukenukem83815 жыл бұрын
Wow norm macdonald is really good at narrating
@generallee40436 жыл бұрын
When all else fells make sure you jump far away from the truck.
@dentor7164 жыл бұрын
Good advice. I like that the best (jump as away)
@danstafford59774 жыл бұрын
The weight of the truck tells you what gear you need to drop down into... an 80,000 lb truck and a 7% downgrade... drop down three gears... if that's too slow you could always upshift one gear... some veteran drivers do drag braking which is obsolete it's best to do snub braking even wear on the brakes and less Heat!
@samuel4322able3 жыл бұрын
I have a old 94 5.9 turbo diesel dodge if I carry heavy trailers what are more forms of breaking besides my truck brakes
@raymondfoster24010 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice
@truckertwotimes11 жыл бұрын
Ten, thank you for thanking me :)
@zackariahgill542310 жыл бұрын
this is vintage 780p ?
@TruckDriverDiary11 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@kingsleysarfo. Жыл бұрын
Does a low gear mean low speed or is it a certain lever you pull ? I don’t know anything
@Langit_Silver5 жыл бұрын
just install water tank & water pump then conect the hose direct to tyre.. it will be cooling the brake drum dude...
@mohammed90404 жыл бұрын
Guess what, the new Chinese SinoTrucks have factory equipped water sprayer on the Axles.
@nattidayangchannel3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@glenbjack6 жыл бұрын
this is the dude on Eatons "how to shift..." videos.
@thecounselor42874 жыл бұрын
Don’t stab your brakes like you stab the lot lizard you’ll catch on fire.
@ericcartman298410 жыл бұрын
Snub Your Breaks Every Day! Like a BAWSSS
@truckertwotimes11 жыл бұрын
No, I wished I had stayed out west though instead of coming back to the dirty side, maybe still would be..?..
@ThejohnnyZzzz11 жыл бұрын
Ahh the 90s
@pakilodi10 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@terremoto..68095 жыл бұрын
This technique applies to more than just trucks
@mydochanakel50268 жыл бұрын
Thank god for the Automatic Trucks
@VladGoro257 жыл бұрын
new autos downshift when JB is activated
@Bendigo14 жыл бұрын
@@VladGoro25 even if you dont want/need them to.🤦♂️
@lego4av6 жыл бұрын
don't used trailer brakes, " is the fastest way to smoked them " lol lol lol
@ctcapthao34565 жыл бұрын
Hay
@georgeriley2943 жыл бұрын
But you can’t stub in a tanker, because of the surge
@king0cans8 жыл бұрын
Sweet shoes......
@gm16v14911 жыл бұрын
I go along with everything the guy says, except I can't believe he says you should dab (snub) the brakes on a long downgrade. As far as I am concerned you shouldn't use the brakes at all. You should drive at such a speed that you only use the engine brakes. I'm talking long downgrades here I always reckon you should drive at such a speed that if the driveline fails, you can pull up just using the foundation brakes. I've seen fatal crashes where guys burned out their brakes.
@RDC_Autosports6 жыл бұрын
gm16v149 he’s just letting the (un common sense ones) know what to do instead of riding them , never touched mine going down
@casimirobuenabista6 жыл бұрын
He also said stay with what you know works for you!
@ALANLEEY4 жыл бұрын
Who is watching this in 2020?! 😂😂😂
@Maxwell19893 жыл бұрын
2021
@jefftruckertwotimesforeste37562 жыл бұрын
I recommend and approve the 5, 3 slow down technique. #iamtruckertwotimes
@ernestoramon37003 жыл бұрын
God I searched for this video but found it to late after having some bad experiences. My truck doesn't have Jake brake.
@pavel18095 жыл бұрын
Let me guest low gear 2 and 3 gear. Down hill
@knakajima13473 жыл бұрын
Honestly about 7 or 8 gear 35 45 mhp.
@lancejones55075 жыл бұрын
This guy has NEVER drove truck. if you go down 7% grade for 14 miles snubbing your brakes you will run out of brakes. Best rule is use the gear that you don't have to touch your brakes and never turn it loose until you see the bottom.
@Bendigo14 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! Should do that on any grade tho.
@ImportedFromSerbia2 жыл бұрын
agree with you. if you snub brakes to often on downhill, then you are in high gear.
@pstpupful7 жыл бұрын
so they know more than 30 or 40 yrs experience?
@dewaynem559 Жыл бұрын
Stabbraking is BS I've never used this and never had any problems I started in 1973 without a Jake light steady pressure in the right gear and they work fine I tried that stab braking BS it sucked I drove over 43+ years hauled cattle out of steep hills then moved on to everything else ..
@octavioverdugo14427 жыл бұрын
Buena informacion.
@Langit_Silver4 жыл бұрын
just install the water tank & water pump.. easy
@aquamanaquaman17155 жыл бұрын
How come you didn't mention Jake brakes?
@mohammed90404 жыл бұрын
He did
@luxe_vv3 жыл бұрын
He did,engine brakes
@mrstuperstefan11 жыл бұрын
hEY BUDDY! sAN dIEGO SAYS HI!!
@johnwolf14753 ай бұрын
uhhhh you do know the the countries fleets are mandated with speed limited by politicians taht cant drive a 4 wheeler...?
@javirrezz47107 жыл бұрын
No entiendo ni wea pero buen video
@kevinjones14554 жыл бұрын
Gotta laugh he moves his foot back to the go pedal geeez
@Matt_Dagostino5 жыл бұрын
This video would never be published today. He said "Retard" on several occasions. Whahhhh
@joeserin95936 жыл бұрын
Who wears dress shoes when driving a truck?
@bloodmoongrizzlythefirst64925 жыл бұрын
To be honest there are some guys out there driving in dress shirts and ties. Not many but there are a few. Its called looking good and feeling good.
@Matt_Dagostino5 жыл бұрын
A corporate shill, that's who
@CTX505 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of the dress shoes but it's better than those guys I see driving wearing shorts and sandals. Usually with the left foot up on the dash
@edgarmartinez9633 жыл бұрын
I do not understand....
@stigandrmyrardalur5208 Жыл бұрын
This was hysterically hillarious 😂😂😂 In the modern civilized world disc-brakes, engine-brake and retarder makes all of this to a history class... Moral of the story is that BRAKES is to STOP the vehicle, while engine brake and retarder is there to hold back downhill....
@dn52n566 жыл бұрын
this first part is a joke in its self. So where is our beloved Vehicle Safety Commission to stop this and too make our trucks safer? Back pocket of our politicians, company's, insurance company's and the list goes on.. Its appalling that they for the money, would put our safety last and the money first. This has to stop..
@Bendigo14 жыл бұрын
What are you referring to?
@omgicameonyerface11 жыл бұрын
get a real truck... or you might as well drive a toyota prius
@yolandalindsay8368 Жыл бұрын
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@osasumwenoribo1403 жыл бұрын
Don't like the sound of the truck, deflate those tires and the vehicle will pause.
@satan61696 жыл бұрын
OK so what you’re telling me is to use the highest gear possible and ride my brakes the entire way down the hill OK got it
@alrightalrightalright-3 жыл бұрын
Anybody that's tried to start a fire knows u have to fan it or blow air on it to get it going. When u "stab" ur brakes it blowing air thru ur brake system maker the brakes hotter and can cause a fire. If u keep steady pressure on ur brakes, not all the way down, but light pressure and apply more pressure as needed but then just ease back off to light pressure. This will keep u from fanning the heat. This guy reads from a script, I've got 22yrs OTR, I go over Mount eagle 80k all the time in truck with no Jakes.
@Bendigo12 жыл бұрын
That is so wrong... when you release the brakes you give them time to cool. If you keep pressure on them, they have no time to cool.
@alrightalrightalright-2 жыл бұрын
@@Bendigo1 ur stupid, fire needs air to burn. why do u think when people start fires you'll see them blow on them to get them goin. So if you take the hot brakes and start pumping air on them they'll heat up then u got a fire. If you keep pressure on them, not a lot but just enough to where there's no air moving and just pressing them harder when needed no air blows on them then no fire. There is a saying don't fan the flames. This is what is wrong with trucking today , there's too many dumbasses out here that don't know shit and when someone who's been driving for 20yrs tells them something they don't listen to because they know already.