New Chevy VS Old Chevy! Can a Silverado Bison Keep Up With Big Green (AKA a 1985 Chevy K10)?

[@justin________7477]

I would take the square body in a heartbeat. You can actually maintain it yourself if you want.

[@ace1usmc]

I love my new Denali HD Duramax, but I gotta agree with you about the square body. There's just something that's so cool and awesome about them. Big Green needs a big block, though.

[@425superRocket]

New trucks are trash compared to the K10. You could keep that K10 running for another 50 plus years. I'll be eating soup out of the remnants of the new truck in 5 years, possibly sooner.

[@hkguitar1984]

So true. I've a 1986 Military Blazer, zero electronics, not even a radio! New vehicles are designed and built for a much shorter service life. My Blazer is almost 40 years old and just as dependable as the day it rolled off the assembly line, how will this Silverado Bison run and drive 40 years from now? Also, the cost, for the price charged for new trucks to have such a short service life is IMHO totally unacceptable.

[@HIDHIFDB]

​@@hkguitar1984You know whats funny the big 3 sell cheap body on frame manual everything pick up trucks in Mexico even the diesel version dont have the Def thing, the trucks are Ram 1200, Chevrolet s10 Max and Ford Ranger (Mexican Version looks like the american but has manual transmision)

[@MrOiram46]

@@425superRocketYou know what they say; older trucks may run bad due to age, but they will run bad LONGER than a new truck’s entire lifespan 😂

[@NO-0M3]

I have an old 84 my dad gave me when I was 11, and the fact that we compare a 100k truck to a 10k 40 year old truck is wild. Gotta love em

[@domnicclassi3823]

The best part of your truck.... You own it...and can maintain it and hand it down to your kids . I can't even believe the price of new trucks .

[@425superRocket]

@@domnicclassi3823 $60k-$180k... f'n insane. The price of a home for a low income family, up to the price of a pretty decent home for a middle income family. How is this even possible? Not to mention they're all prone to catastrophic failures and huge safety recalls. And of course a thousand pounds of dead weight, soon to be obsolete technology that is also prone to failure.

[@crewdawg2008]

More electronics translates into more failure points, especially when mud and water are introduced. There's simply no debate, the older truck is easily a more reliable off road rig.

[@kielanENmiles]

Yeah I could never invest in a vehicle that costs what a house does that I can't maintain myself and may not last the test of time. The old truck is already lasting the test of time, you can maintain it and it only lacks in comfort which shouldn't even be a serious metric in a truck.

[@TopDogDankSmoker]

Buy used dummies. My dad scored a 2019 3.5 EcoBoost f150 for like 26k with 38,000 miles on it. Thing is a fucking monster and the turbos are upgradable for up to like 800hp

[@NaruSanavai]

@@425superRocket This, unfortunately, isn't even true, anymore. Homes have gotten...ugh. It's a whole other can of worms, and we ain't here to talk about that.

[@WarpandXeno88]

That old square body is beautiful!

[@e.g.g1950]

Comfort 😂. That bumping around in your truck is what makes off roading fun. There's nothing like an old truck!

[@williamjones3567]

Old school truck are easy to repair new trucks are harder to repair.

[@jeffreylove6415]

​@@williamjones3567fr a socket set and a hammer

[@marktaylor171]

It's especially true for trucks. Today's technology definitely allows for more power and torque. The chassis and drive train are way more durable and last way longer. Pretty much all the new truck come equipped with independent front suspension. It's an advantage when it comes to toeing capacity but a disadvantage when driving over rough terrain. There are other ways to achieve a greater toeing capacity. It's quite a bit more expensive. Expenses and profit are the main reason manufacturers produce less capable vehicles than they use too. I will point out many manufacturers offer select models equipped with better stuff. The price tag they attach to it is completely unjustified. We have a little something called greed to thank for this development.

[@TLPH04]

I mean I guess if you never actually use your truck yeah. Run down a bad dirt or gravel road a few times when you're trying to get stuff done in reasonable time, and that bouncing around gets really really annoying.

[@NaruSanavai]

Until you've hit your head on the roof for the fifteenth time in as many minutes. Starts gettin' a _little_ old after that. 😂 Especially at the end of the day, when you start to feel every bump and twist your body took on that drive - enough to make ya feel old.

[@ronp1903]

K-10 all the way! Maintaining it yourself is a HUGE bonus. Being able to change parts easily, at a reasonable price, and also being able to crawl under and on top of the engine makes it so convenient. I used to own a '72 C-10 .5 ton truck with a 350 engine, and it was a practical truck you could take to work, camping, helping family and friends move, and haul things around town. I miss the days of owning and maintaining your vehicle, without having to take it to a certified mechanic as soon as your "Check Engine" light appears. Great video and I'm looking forward to your next comparisons! 🛻

[@realpatriot5896]

You don't have to take newer trucks to a mechanic. Just get yourself up to date on technology using the internet to learn whatever you need to know.

[@scottyellis3442]

Absolutely, I couldn't agree more.

[@denisestarr2314]

Old simple truck , Love them . Bring back simple, affordable, tough .

[@garymckee63]

Government won't allow it unfortunately.

[@MCGAletsgo]

100 %

[@andrewdonohue1853]

@@garymckee63 atleast for now you still can. hopefully things dont get worse

[@mikehargrove4356]

....and easy to work on!!!!

[@ShaulDawg]

Those days are long gone buddy

[@meathead2676]

Come back in 40 years and see who's still probably here...

[@smokey281]

40... yea gl with that

[@1991tommygun]

Would absolutely last another 40 years if kept away from winter roads. You can always keep those old trucks going

[@pitbullgamer8116]

Nothing beats the looks of a square body chevy big green sounds way better

[@andrewdonohue1853]

id love a K5 blazer

[@jaybennett7242]

I had a 87 square body and I wish I had it back. Loved it.

[@c.garison3770]

Nice to see big green out and doing what these old trucks do best.

[@craigdoriety9798]

I have a 91 Sport Silverado with 350 and 5 speed. Same interior with high back buckets and console as the 454 SS. I ordered it new in August 1990. Best and most trouble free vehicle I have owned, Easy to maintain with plenty of room around the motor.

[@Anubis78250]

Adjusted for inflation that K10 would be around $25,000 today. Meanwhile the Bison upgrade package alone costs more than the entire truck did in '85. I would trade that new truck in for an '85 square body in "reasonable" condition any day of the week.

[@andrewdonohue1853]

that's insane. i paid $25k for my manual crosstrek in 2022, and it's not a horrible car but it's no K10 either. the cost of vehicles is insane

[@andyr5389]

That's because of all the ABS, TCS, emissions, computers, blah blah. Take all that out, and it would be so similar.

[@nicolec7290]

Me 2 but the government knows what we need not use

[@bluespidergaming7719]

@@andyr5389 ah yes abs who needs an advanced system to help you brake when we can just give you shit rear brakes from factory see now you can never lock up your rears

[@11TruthAssassin]

85? In Canada they are going for 110 grand

[@Willowcreek19]

Biggest baddest Chevy I ever owned was 77 step side Cheyenne with a custom 383. It was too awesome. I had to run 32x15s, any bigger of tire would snap every joint I had while in 4 low. My buddy went with a one ton long bed tweeked out with a 454 on 38x16s. He didn't need 4wd unless it was snowing and he was on the streets. He won the tough truck contest but he couldn't park that monster anywhere. I have a Tacoma now. Zero complaints.

[@robertgalipeau9602]

Old trucks anyday! I currently own a 2022 Ram 1500, a very fine vehicle. But, of all the trucks I owned over the past 40 years, my favorite of all time : my 1976 Jeep Cherokee Chief with the 360 and solid axles. That beast was unstoppable! Keep up the good works guys!

[@mcmillonbe]

Ive been looking for a Chief since high school(30+ years ago). My buddy had an orange Cherokee in high school. It was pretty much unstoppable(within reason). I loved the size of it, easy to park, and wrenching on it was super easy.

[@fastinradfordable]

Sorry a new ram is not a good vehicle. Did you know if you get a nick in one of the 20ga tiny wires for an engine sensor You’ll be limited to 30mph. One nick in a single abs wire. An you lose 4WD capability. You’ll hate it It just hasn’t happened yet

[@lincolngarces9987]

But it's gasoline and it's harmful on earth while the new truck is electric and safer for the environment

[@rediron44]

Love those old FSJ. They rocked.

[@rediron44]

​@@fastinradfordable blah blah blah

[@setup-d8n]

I had a 79 GMC short bed when I lived in Denver took it to the mountains and to the mud and it went through everything!

[@thndr_5468]

Old school really is cool! These old trucks just are undeniably cool

[@gemsurf208]

My very first vehicle was a 1970 GMC 3/4T and my first new vehicle was a 77 chevy 1/2T shorty. I just bought a 24 F150 Powerboost and have had at least 20 pickups in between. I will never go back except for a show truck or Sunday driver. I hear all of you saying the older ones were so much easier to work on but I don't work on my stuff anymore. Give me the power, mileage, reliability and creature comforts of the new ones any day of the week. I've spent several million miles in pickups and that is by far the most important thing for me. If I'm gonna go 4 wheeling and rough it, I'll beat the crap out of a side by side!

[@rafterktbcattle3022]

While TFL is doing a “long term” review of a month old Cyber Truck….. TK is doing Truck things! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

[@MisterMikeTexas]

That Cyber Truck looks like some sort of mutation. 🤮

[@robertbignar9129]

It's not even a truck

[@chadfoust6942]

Great video! I had the almost identical truck as big green as my first truck And wish I never sold it.I highly recommend Airing those tires down for on road and about half of that for off-road. The best thing I did for comfort in my 78 Silverado was definitely jacking the truck up and putting grease between the leaf Springs.

[@jjpark1989]

There is something about the classic one that I like it much more

[@PFPTHEGREATEST]

Because its already ran longer than that new computer with a grill ever will. And might still outlive it.

[@gettnbread]

Ole truck has a soul.

[@craigdoriety9798]

​@PFPTHEGREATEST Yeah and that old truck is actually going up in value and is not just another new truck on the road that really gets no notice. You will probably get tired of people asking about it and wanting to buy it. I get that all the time with my custom 91 Sport Silverado.

[@TheReapersSon]

It's the design. Clean, simple lines. Boxy but not brutalist. Wide open engine bay and accessible mechanical components. The old truck IS superior in many ways. The new truck might have more creature comforts but I'll take that '85 any day of the week.

[@andrewdonohue1853]

@@craigdoriety9798 i love that 88-97 body style. i have a 2003 bonneville SSEi and a 97 grand prix. both 3800 (ssei is supercharged). i love my older vehicles, and they are both in great shape for the age

[@rebeccahammond4671]

Really good job on being unbiased. You mention both the good and bad points of both vehicles and I totally agree with your assessment. Newer 4x4s are great. My 2021 Jeep Gladiator ran all of the Green, most of the Blue, and a couple Black trails at Rausch Creek with 400 miles on the odometer and did great (as it left the factory... 32" M/T tires and limited-slip rear helps). However, doing the same trails in a 1997 Wrangler with a 2" lift and 31" tires and no locking/limited slip differentials... that was both more fun and required much more driver input - that led to me feeling more confident and having more of a sense of accomplishment.

[@billb3565]

I'll take the 85 all-day love that truck.

[@bobbyb1607]

You did a good honest assessment of the strengths and weaknesses of both trucks. Big Green for off road and the Bison for on road. I've been around a little while and one thing about newer vehicles is that they don't take as much skill to operate. For an old guy like me there's something lost there.

[@arthurhadley1344]

I own an 85 Chevy k20 - & 82 k5 blazer with 6.2 diesel. I’ve owned newer. You said you work a lot on you 85 but the thing is you can work on it. As a matter of fact I’m surprised you didn’t have 5 recalls on the Silverado before filming ended. New trucks are space age nice but come with a mound of potential problems & cost. Love your 85 Thanks for the video.

[@mikejohnston8651]

Great comparison. Loved the review start to finish.

[@TruckKing]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Thankyou_3]

Computer on wheels, yes that is what all new vehicles are nowadays.

[@ryanb8736]

They run a lot longer.

[@ryanb8736]

Notice how all old vehicles are stuffing in LS swaps. All computerized. Why? One word… optimization!

[@Texas12valve]

​@@ryanb8736 and a lot better, more powerful, and more efficient.

[@Jstinnett26]

Just imagine all those electronics going through the mud these new trucks are straight garbage

[@xmo552]

and nobody wants

[@VaderisOne]

I have a 1987 GMC “K10” factory TBI 5.0, tow package w Dooley style mirrors. Most people that see it think the little tag on tailgate is fake ( says “fuel injected” ) I bought it from original owner that custom ordered it. It is still 95% original, has headers ( that work w smog pump! ) and he had custom seats installed at dealer that matched truck color. Sadly, she stoped running two months ago, I think the fuel pump went out, I can pour gas down its throat and she will run, but other wise she won’t. Survivor truck for sure, dings, minor dents, original paint and never wrecked. One day I hope to have the money to fix her up without restoring, she has all her history in every scratch and I like it like that.

[@neilkratzer3182]

The new truck sure does make things more comfortable but just remember when something goes wrong with the electronics you might want to go cry. Ask my friend about that brand new 4x4 ram with less that 1,000 miles went to put it in 4 wheel on the the farm. Light said it was engaged but it didn't work. Worst part is dealer couldn't fix it even with the corporate engineers. Lemon lawed it at 1,000 miles. That's the biggest concern on all those electronics.

[@1oldskoolluvr]

Fellow Ontarian, first time viewer, new subscriber. Not sure how i've never stumbled across the channel previously. Mildly amusing (to me) that a video comparing a squarebody and a ZR2 package truck was the first video from your channel. Mildly amusing, as i've owned 5 squarebodys over the years (currently with my "forever" 'Burb) and previously owned a '99 ZR2 Blazer 5 spd for 4 years. That was a fun little truck, and the ZR2 package definitely gave the S-series platform an advantage over the other 4WD S-series trucks of the time. While i miss that Blazer, it'll never compare to my luv for squarebodys. Luv Big Green btw!💚😘👌🏻

[@TheBlackScatPack]

I love the comparison between the old and new trucks. Newer trucks can show they are capable but they are made so nice looking and with those computers but damn you can’t beat the reliability of older trucks.

[@matthewmerry2679]

This is a well made video and great comparison. I had a '22 Trail Boss and loved all the comforts (but not the price) so I sold it and got a CRV while the kids are in daycare. Once they're out, I'll be getting a truck and I'm really leaning towards a K10. Thanks for putting this together. Also, Big Green sounds WAAAAY better.

[@RonnN-gf8tm]

Big Greens exhaust sound should be a ring tone on my phone... coolest square body truck..still love it Thanks Steve

[@oetsitty7903]

Ain't nothing like those Dana 44 in the front and NP transfer case, plus a Muncie four speed, if not 3, even better! ❤❤❤ Gotta luv this ol' trucks.

[@darrinrebagliati5365]

2 main reasons to go old. First: you can get any part off the shelf. Second: that part costs 1 tenth of what the same part for the new one does. Third bonus reason: the old trucks just look like trucks!

[@quentonmillstid850]

Old parts are running low so the costs of old parts reflect that...

[@WASTED__POTENTIAL]

Not to mention there are far fewer parts to go bad on older vehicles.

[@bluespidergaming7719]

@@WASTED__POTENTIAL no

[@WASTED__POTENTIAL]

@bluespidergaming7719 no what? No, you don't know anything about vehicles?

[@bluespidergaming7719]

@@WASTED__POTENTIAL the assertion that "fewer parts go bad in older vehicles" is a bold faced lie how often do u have to change coils, wheel bearings, cap ,rotor , sparkplug wires, fuel system on newer cars every moving component of older cars needs changing almost as frequently as oil changes old cars need constant tinkering new cars need little more than oil changes to get to at least 150,000 miles and only then you get air filter and sparkplugs how about in newer cars if one of my blend door motors go bad i dont have ac or heat on that side vs old if i have a vaccum leak not only does my motor not run right but now the implement doesnt work say goodbye to shifting (automatic problem) wipers and even windows

[@jonathanethelbah768]

I’ve had my 1986 Chevy square body for 24 years, it’s stick and it’s still going strong. Love it would never get rid of it

[@davidnorthrup3674]

First of all, I really appreciate that you actually tested the trucks in something that could have been a problem. Instead of something that my car could do! The one difference that was not mentioned. IFS is much better at high speed whoops, but it is also much more fragile when it comes to rock crawling. So it depends on what you are going to do with it.

[@IbanezGuitarz87]

Square body is still a nicer looking truck than the new ones! I'd take the square body any day!!

[@edwardpate6128]

I think a better comparison would be Big Green and a current Chevy Z71 or GMC X31 package truck, they sell 10's of thousands of those vs a handful of the Bison.

[@bobbywalter5320]

That is curios. Big green has more than double the horse power a huge lift and giant tires as compared to stock.

[@andrewdonohue1853]

@@bobbywalter5320 and yet it's still way less then 100K. 100K for a vehicle is absolutely nuts

[@bobbywalter5320]

@@andrewdonohue1853 yup.....and i am squirrelly.....but i am not that into nuts....they can have it for 100k

[@markc6207]

Old truck was affordable and tough and easy to work on. New garbage is way too much money way to much extra unnecessary crap. Unnecessary crap that breaks. The new ones are to much computer and wires a nightmare when they get older they will not be around as long as the old simple trucks. OLD TRUCKS FOR THE WIN!!

[@fordmustangfanful]

Thank you for the great comparison video ! I really liked the clip.

[@TruckKing]

You are welcome!

[@jackwyatt4184]

I just bought 6 months ago 2002 GMC Sierra. SLT With Only fifty three thousand miles One owner garage kept pristine condition Beautiful truck inside and out had to pay top dollar for it.But was definitely worth it I will keep it forever. Two tone paint black and gray With Black interior leather

[@dante04srt]

The square body... HANDS DOWN! I'm glad to see you still own it!

[@captainrawn]

I have a 2022 ZR2 in the Sand color. Awesome truck so far. I don't baby it at all. Take it off road towing my 25 foot travel trailer, pull my dump trailer, and both an open and enclosed car hauler on occasion. It works well enough that I haven't started my 2015 F350 diesel in about 10 months now. Pretty impressed with the ZR2 with the 6.2 engine.

[@michaelbenardo5695]

Glad you like your truck, but it is probably not impossible to work on at home

[@randomgamer8543]

I have a mix of both worlds in my 96 Tahoe 5.7 4x4...Just recently pulled a 15k lbs bobcat out of a blue clay bottom pond with the front tow hooks...Chevy makes beasts for sure..Also love i can maintenance, and repair it myself.. 👌

[@BG-vq9fd]

I bought a new K20 4x4 in 1978. 400 small block, thm400 , 3.73 floating rear axle, and Cheyanne trim if my aging memory is still working. I added a Rancho 4" lift with 14-35 Ground Hawgs. I think of this truck every time I see Big Green. I stupidly sold it after I realized it was only coming out of the building 2 times a year. I do like my current 2020 GMC Sierra AT4 6.2L. So does my back.

[@keltoi30]

78 GMC Jimmy here with a 400 small block TH400 and I believe 4" lift. I like the round headlights more than the squares. Thing went anywhere I wanted it to. I stupidly sold mine cheap to a friend after breaking a yoke but was young and stupid and didn't know how to work on stuff underneath, only motors and body stuff. Guy blew the motor revving it in his backyard cause he didn't have a license yet. Kicked myself so bad when I was told by my brother a few days after selling, that it was like a 10 dollar part and takes 10 minutes to replace lol.

[@mattp.7318]

​@@keltoi30Ouch! Live and learn but that's a ROUGH one!

[@quentonmillstid850]

Boomer

[@YellowjacketGTO]

Sut down sonny.​@@quentonmillstid850

[@johnthegiant320]

I miss them ground hawgs. They would fling some mud, but dont drive on wet asphalt with a turn lol

[@2SHOOTKILL]

... ABOUT TIME A GREAT SHOW THAT GREAT AUTOMOTIVE SHOW !!!! KEEP THEM COMING, VERY VERY NICE.

[@krisw8597]

Funny, I own a 2021 Colorado ZR2 (stock) and a 1969 C10 (stock). Both of these trucks will get looks at times… however the 69 always gets more looks and I can’t even get out of a parking lot without a positive comment from someone or a offer to buy it…. That tells you something about old trucks. I love both but when you drive the 69, man it’s just amazing. I’m 51 so the old truck is really my fav, I just don’t tell the ZR2 that….😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@fastinradfordable]

Nobody is looking at your ‘21 Colorado

[@krisw8597]

@@fastinradfordable don’t be jealous…… everyone likes a ZR2😜

[@fastinradfordable]

@@krisw8597 only fanboys fawn over literal random numbers and letters designed by manufacturers not to be better but to to trick someone to spend more money on options to get the same truck. The people who know cars aren’t impressed. And the rest only act impressed to satiate your ego and their own ignorance simultaneously.

[@xmo552]

@@krisw8597 I drove my 1981 c3500 GMC every day since Monday this week. It's not pretty. It's a basic work truck. It does have a nice liftgate, but most people notice that last. Every day this week I've had people asking to buy it. It's my back up hauler, it's always ready to run, and rescue anyone anywhere. It's not going anywhere. Even today... after years of my landlord suggesting I sell it off.... today he asks to buy it. Sorry, bud I had to tell him to kick rocks.

[@bogravel8551]

As usual I agree with your ending comments. Love the comparison! Enjoyed video as always! Keep it country. 'Till the next video, later!

[@RonnN-gf8tm]

Those Megnaflows sound so much nicer...best square body on KZbin..love tht exhaust sound Steve!!!

[@edwardpate6128]

Glasspacks nicer!

[@tavo5239]

Nice video! Have my 2006 Silverado z71 I have fun off road and on with it. Got 160k miles still going strong. Plan on passing it to my son. Recently got rid of a 21 high country with the 6.2l with approximately 35k miles. First lifters bent and took a crap left me stranded on side of the highway, dealer fixed it under warranty at around 16k miles. Then towed my brothers empty trailer couple hours. As soon as I unloaded started to drive I heard a clunk sound from 1st to 2nd took to dealer they said it was normal I couldn’t do it 2 big problems while still paying on it. Warranty was running out so I got rid of it before anything worse happened beautiful truck but just not reliable while so expensive I’ll keep my 06 cateye any day of the year! Paid off. Gets me to work and gives me the fun off roading.

[@joeraptor1]

The GM trucks produced from 1988-1999 were some of the best ones GM ever made. There were a few kinks in the early years but if you got something from 93/94 to 97/98, those were some great trucks. Older trucks were made with work purposes in mind while newer trucks are more like SUV alternatives that can still do work as a secondary task.

[@briantruck2284]

Am proud owner of three Silverado V6 manual 5 speed extended cab 1992 Cheyenne V6. K1500 1991 Cheyenne V6 auto 1993

[@TLPH04]

They're literally more work oriented. You have lights in the bed so you can actually work after sunset. Surround lighting for the same reason. A ton more power and towing capacity so you can actually get stuff places. You get little convenience options for storage and work benches. And you can actually load heavy stuff in the bed without busting your back. Spent a ton of time in old and new, and old trucks are a fun novelty. They're "just good enough" while new trucks do everything better or do more.

[@MrKelly-oc5kq]

I miss my 86 chevy 4x4 350ci automatic with overdrive, 33" Goodrich all-terrain tires, cold ac, it was so simple to fix if it had a problem, I bought it for $4000 and drove it for 8 years then sold it for $7500, worst mistake I ever made.

[@SpinningSpur]

I owned a 1996 and 1998 GMC sierra. 5.7 under the hoods extended cabs. Fun to drive, extremely reliable, mechanics love em and love the body style.

[@davidwilder7109]

I've never been a fan of the 88-98s. Weak transmissions, throttle body injection was a pain in the ass, and the later ones with the vortec has the spider injection that was always fun to fight.

One of the better demonstrations 👍🏻. The mud was great but I suggest since its a 1/2 ton load it with a 1/2 tom then do the mud and some hill climbing.....

[@NWI_Steel]

Cool to see you still have Big Green!

[@commentsedited]

Cool, was just thinking about something like this, and here you are. Out of the blue.

[@michaelbenardo5695]

Big Green hands down for me. Yes, the new truck has some incredible engineering and some pretty nice features that either didn't exist back in the day or were aftermarket accessories, but they don't come close to compensating for the fact that the bed is just too small in the new truck. They also can't compensate for the fact that you can't do much more than oil changes on the new one. My 73 GMC C25, like Big Green, is bog simple. I do all my own servicing AND repairs/refurbishment MYSELF, IN MY OWN BACK YARD. I also don't have a catalytic converter to get stolen, nor do I have any computers, sensors, or phasers to go haywire. I don't need or want a multifunction tailgate, nor do I need a crew cab.

[@mccoulombe941]

i also have a 85 k-20. the only thing i like off the new truck is the tailgate. i did enjoy your show. it was well thought out and filmed. i highly recomend a rear locker in big green. I have one and go pretty much anywhere i want. carry on!

[@RidersInBlack]

What better way to wake up Seeing this video with a cup of coffee and a big grin for big green. Favorite truck channel on KZbin.

[@raemonedward8168]

Big green sounds like MEAN GREEN! K10 for the win. Great video brother. 👍🏼

[@ericsteppe9482]

Big green sounds 👌🏼 WONDERFUL ❤

[@mariadelsocorrovazquez4515]

My dad had the same costom deluxe 1981 C10 in green same color 👍

[@jerrylemky1882]

Both trucks are awesome but I do have to say that Big Green is more my kind of truck. Plus, like you said, you don't have to worry so much about it and it's MUCH cheaper to fix.

[@MrFred-sm9nw]

Very entertaining and informative! Nicely done!

[@liamrobinson2084]

Great video TK! My takeaway is that you don't need the latest and greatest to do stuff. Big Green did everything the bison did, on open diffs, and with a manual transmission! You could pick up a functional older 4x4 pickup for $3k ( I checked) or 3% of the cost of a bison. Big Green's estimated value is about equivalent to the added taxes on the bison in Canada of about 15%. Cheers gents!

[@dennissmith7214]

Yes at these few little obstacles, once one of the wheels are off the ground and you do some real off-roading that old truck is done😳……….lock the new truck and it will do far more than that old truck can ever think of, if doesn’t need solid front axcels because all it needs is a wheel or two on the ground and if can pull through…….all done in comfort to the trail and back!

[@kelvinmann1058]

​@@dennissmith7214 Lockers in Big Green would balance that equation. Cheaper, self maintained, for the win, for me.

[@kelvinmann1058]

​@@dennissmith7214 Lockers in Big Green would balance that equation. Cheaper, self maintained, for the win, for me.

[@mrbig7718]

If im not mistaken, the bison was the one that the wheel came a foot off the ground ​@dennissmith7214

[@toddk1377]

​@@dennissmith7214 So the old truck can't take lockers? Throw some lockers in it and allow for a sway bar disconnect and that old truck will do everything better off-road than that new truck except for creature comforts.

[@jameskleist4019]

My Dad owned 1976 GMC with an automatic, and it was OK, and I owned a 1998 Chevy truck with a 5L V8, and I never took it through a swap or any sticky mud like in Alberta. But it is the best vehicle I ever owned. My 98 Chevy had a shift on the fly 4X4. I do like the newer trucks, and the 12 tie-downs may have come from 1 of my suggestions from a number of years ago. Because I suggested it, and they had 8 tie-downs the flowing year.

[@georgeperillo6421]

I love that square body. It could come in dead last and it would still be # 1 for me.

[@calvinsallee]

Love my 1990 squarebody suburban 2500 4wd. Awesome truck. Great off road and in the snow.

[@jordanfrangquist1474]

Chevy knows they are on the right path when pretty much everyone comments that they would take the old

[@ryanb8736]

It’s because of what they can afford. Plus it’s easy to work on because they were slapped together. The new ones are too complex for this audience. The very same people will complain that they afford the old ones because they are no longer 500.

[@pancho1071]

Yeah!...on the path to the junk yard.this all new truck from ford,ram and Chevrolet are crap the older ones will are still going strong without any crap like this ones.

[@TimeMariner]

​@@ryanb8736say something that makes sense or say nothing at all.

[@msharp6887]

Sorta a poor comparison. The new one is a higher package with a lot of factory extras. The older one is a very base model. And yet, they performed pretty equally

[@bhswarrior94]

@@pancho1071 Do you really wanna go down this path? Cause we definitely can.

[@erickcappelletti8490]

I own a 98 GMC Sierra 5.7 with an 8 inch lift absolutely my favorite truck of all time it can't be stopped

[@DethcrowGames]

I don't know what it is, but the K10 stands out more. The ZR2 is a beauty, but the classic trucks just look so cool.

[@MFDK100]

I have an old and new, but not apples to apples. My off-road adventure rig is a 1989 4Runner with a 5vz swap, a manual transmission, 31" tires and a mechanical locker in the rear. My family ride is a 2019 custom trail boss Silverado with the 5.3 and a 6 speed. Overall for daily driving, the Silverado is a Cadillac compared to the Toyota. I did the whipsaw Creek trail in 2023 and took the Toyota, no way I would have taken the Silverado, even though it did come from the factory with an automatic electronically controlled locking rear differential. As far as your test trucks go, I would take both and use big green as the hardcore wheeler and use the Silverado for mild wheeling / camping adventures and daily driving. Great vid 🤘

[@slowguy66]

I want to see a comparison to the late 90s Chevy trucks now, I have a 97 and absolutely love that truck. taken it off road many places never could get it stuck.

[@brooksschneider3441]

I've never been an off-roader, but I used to have a base model 2WD short box Chevy. Of all the vehicles I've owned in over 50 years of driving, that's the one I miss the most.

[@GwynnOak1]

OK right off the bat LOVE ol green! Now that's a REAL truck! Taken care of, that truck will last damn near forever. Easy to work on, parts reasonable, just no comparison. Now bottom line, again absolutely NO comparison! The Bison costs, what I would expect to pay for a house. Like you I'd be babying it constantly, because of the money involved. I'd have no interest in owning one because of the ridiculous amount to own it. Could not enjoy it, no joy of ownership. One mans opinion. Thoroughly enjoyed your comparison, confirmed my suspicions, thanks!

[@Possibilitiesrendless-vq6tz]

Call me old-fashioned but the magna flow exhaust on big green sounded outstanding! Love that growl!

[@RonnN-gf8tm]

Looks like it's gonna be a good day. Right On Steve!! Thanks Man!!!

[@ZachC-130]

That K10 is mint! Great looking truck.

[@estarszak]

That 2 door Chevy is awesome. I remember driving those in the Military in the 90's. Modern 4 door bodies are basically SUV's. lol

[@marcelo403polo2]

square body IMO is the nicest pick up EVER built

[@michaelbenardo5695]

Today's "trucks" are dual purpose vehicles and compromise at both being a car and a truck. As a car, they are comparatively hard riding and hard for the lady to climb in and out of, and are WAY too expensive. As a truck, the bed is too small, and it is WAY too expensive. For me, my 73 square body is far superior.

[@road2zion262]

Man that square body K-10🤯🤯❤️ Dodge guy myself but always in awe for a beautiful Square body🙏🏽

[@greg4876]

I bet you've had transmission problems before

[@road2zion262]

@ i bet you walk or dont own a truck . Never had issues young one.

[@Dildo_Baggins.]

Big green is a great use case for torsen LSD in the front and rear. Doesn't need any maintenance beyond oil changes, no user input to work, and super reliable. I think that would really be the tits

[@straightwhiteandproud9643]

I got a 84/85 k20 in the 2 tone blue and grey. The block was magnifluxed and rebuilt she's got a 4 bolt main with ported heads and a ported eddelbrock intake a cam and longtube headers with a 750 Eddelbrock, 400 transmission with 14 bolt semi float diff. My dad built it when I was 14 I'm 38 now and now I get to rebuild it with my son.

[@666dynomax]

god that old square body looks great.

[@allenlindsey1175]

Yea In 1985 ford.made a commercial where the f150 put a chevy Cheyenne in the bed and dragged a dodge ram up a mountain The commercial is still there

[@pinkflydnt]

That's why I like Big Red, my '99 Silverado 1500 Z71 Extended Cab. She has a few dents and some standard issue cab cancer but with the 5.3 and 4.10 gears with the G80 rear locker, she's great off road.

[@JoanLechuza]

Old green sounds better 🤣✌️ Old just pure driving skills New truck electronics doing the driving for u.

[@amarqzm5082]

Scared of tech is funny

[@cliffordcullen1687]

No, tech is unreliable and for idiots that don’t belong off roading. Been wheeling for 45 years and skills are still the best thing. I have enjoyed recovering broken new tech crap. Besides the point being transmission and drivetrain expert for 38 years, the electronic Nannie’s always seem to fail when you need them.

[@amarqzm5082]

@@cliffordcullen1687 yeah that old Chevy ain’t original at all it’s been restored next time pay attention clown

[@MadGoat360]

Excellent video all around

[@robedmund9948]

Get both. Tow with and daily the Bison. Playtime with the box body!

[@ryanb8736]

Spot on! The only way to do it.

[@The762x39mm]

I have a 1977 K20,stock tired 350 engine,NP 205 transfer case and SM465 4 speeds manual. Its my only vehicule and i love it. Easy to work on,virtually bullet proof. I plan to keep it as long gasoline will be available 😁

[@joseeduardo4327]

Big green sounds amazing

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Good comparison betwren new and old 7:00 thst bison had impressive skids love the bison front Bumper @Truck King

[@atvseatexchange2176]

Looks like a slam dunk for Big Green.

[@offroad914]

I think you did a great job explaining why getting a new truck isn't worth the price tag.

[@georgecarousos6735]

You need to spend about $2000.00 on a custom set of leaf springs that are multiple thin leaf (7-10 leaves each) to allow for flex and a nice ride in Big Green. ANY mass produced "lift kit" for a solid axle GM is going to have very minimal leaves. Here is an insider secret, when companies buy leaf springs (many made in India) they buy them by the pound. To maximize profits they keep them 3 to 4 leaves and make them stiff so they don't sag over time....but you pay for it in ride quality and articulation. Any quality blacksmith shop or spring shop can build you a custom set of springs based on your trucks weight and what your intended use is. Good springs and lockers in Big Green would make the truck as capable as anything new coming out of GM today (off road-wise). On road, the new trucks are much safer, smoother, quieter and better MPGs. The gonad kicker is the purchase price....yikes.

[@EASTSIDE-313]

The arc makes a big big difference too, if he got flip shackles for the rear and drop shackles for the front so they don't have so much arc they will ride and flex much easier..

[@BigHatsince98]

So glad you mentioned this fact! Yes, it's a bit pricey but still comes no place near the price of even a base truck like the one in question here. I have BDS, 6" lift with 35x16.5x12's on mine. Has a lot of curve but better quality than say a rough country or something would. After installing I took it in to get it looked at by a man who's square rides much better and it is because he did what you described. I'll be fine with what I have that was about 3k but next build will be different none the less. Matter of fact if you are familiar with the setup I have and described and have suggestions on improving it a bit I'm open to suggestions. It's good but could definitely be improved. Thanks.

[@johnkraft5640]

I have an 86 GMC short bed. Used it today in helping a car that went into a ditch here in Virginia Beach after a storm.

[@47mossie]

Big GREEN all the way!!!

[@Todd_S]

What a great comparison!

[@TREVORJB101]

Why GM doesn’t put 35s on the full size ZR2/AEV packages is beyond me, especially when they do it for Colorado/Canyon.

[@shiftymcgee9359]

Cost and EPA numbers.

[@TREVORJB101]

​@shiftymcgee9359 you spelled Mary Barra wrong.

[@superstu101]

35s didn't pass their durability testing for the differentials when loaded at GCWR. There's an interview (somewhere on the internet) with a chassis engineer that explains more. Apparently, the cost of upgrading the ring & pinion did not warrant the benefit of larger tires.

[@matthewbourgoyne4601]

That share body is gorgeous

[@compassandradio6261]

Well, dude... you're talk'n to an old school, wooden roller coaster 🎢 love'n, all American guy. A 4-speed manual, bench seat, single cab is speaking my language. If I had money 💰 in the bank for a brand new off-road truck, I'd spend a fraction of that rebuilding an old truck from the ground up and have a far better truck and one hell of a Christmas budget 🤟🎅👍.

[@andrewdonohue1853]

wooden roller coasters are the best

[@Papershields001]

I just love the styling of the 80s chevys. Has some attitude and presence.

[@paulwatson4189]

Big Green. Better off rd. Better looking. More manly looking. Interior is just what you need and nothing else. Sounds great and simplicity. If I were in a danger zone I would pick big green all day long. If you had put big green against just a regular chevy 4 by 4 like big green is it would have stomped it. That Bison is the best truck chevy makes and big green still won. I'm old school so here is a win for the old trucks and guy's lol.

[@FATHOM_TRIGGER]

I love how simple the old trucks were