2022 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro vs Nissan Frontier PRO-4X vs Rocks, Water & Mud - Which Truck is Best?

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@patricklachance3187
@patricklachance3187 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been a Taco guy and owned a 4Runner for a bit. Got a Pro-4X in January and I love it! I took it out for a spin in the trails and it really did just fine. Now, I don't do extreme stuff like in the video, so I think the Frontier has an edge over the Taco when it comes to smoothness, interior desing and overall bang for your buck. Yes, we know the Taco is reliable and the Frontier is brand new, yet I decided to get the "new" Nissan a chance. So far, so good!
@josefermalino461
@josefermalino461 2 жыл бұрын
Already has a recall for the Nissan
@redandblack1911
@redandblack1911 Жыл бұрын
​@@josefermalino461 what recall?
@perrydavies3592
@perrydavies3592 Жыл бұрын
my 2016 already had an engine rebuild at 119K, paint is fading hard on the roof, (yes I waxed it 4 times a year). tail gate shock is broken, plastic trim inside the sunroof fell off... Yea, so I am not real happy with my Taco. Oh and Toyota corp said no help.... So, pretty much one of the worst vehicles I have ever owned. Major bummer. I got it for the reliability and it sucks. Oh and the gas mileage isn't even close to what they advertise. sorry guys. I wanted to love it, but can't wait to get a new truck when I get the money...
@sammyjammy6647
@sammyjammy6647 Жыл бұрын
@@perrydavies3592😂😂😂
@Josh-by8mq
@Josh-by8mq 8 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on it now?
@Arkeo36
@Arkeo36 2 жыл бұрын
I said it before in a different video about the Frontier, but the Frontier is probably the pound-for-pound most overbuilt and robust passenger vehicle sold in North America.
@Rigo9
@Rigo9 2 жыл бұрын
How so? I owe one and I love it. First truck I’ve owned
@johnnyreb9398
@johnnyreb9398 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rigo9 he wasn't saying that's a negative.
@Rigo9
@Rigo9 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyreb9398 I know, I meant as in I would like to know how. When it comes to vehicles I just mess around with the basics and this being my first truck I’d like to know
@bjornironsides6474
@bjornironsides6474 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rigo9 think miniature titan. Full box frame like titan and f150. And ram :)
@orlandoduran7740
@orlandoduran7740 2 жыл бұрын
@@bjornironsides6474 the ranger and colorado/canyon also have fully box high strength steel frames
@briankelley616
@briankelley616 2 жыл бұрын
Goin' muddin' with your dad in two cool trucks, that's a good day eh. Happy Father's Day to all the dads. Thank you Truck King for another fun video. 😁
@DireWolf28
@DireWolf28 2 жыл бұрын
Nissan really needs to bring back the 6 speed manual transmission option for the new frontier. That truck would be a killer piece of kit!
@Thelos7878
@Thelos7878 Жыл бұрын
That’s the only reason I picked the Tacoma over the Frontier. 6speed MT and I’m jumping to Nissan.
@justing6594
@justing6594 Жыл бұрын
Same here! Patiently waiting.
@donays8241
@donays8241 10 ай бұрын
Ill wait, they need to have as toyota still keep it.
@prawnstar9213
@prawnstar9213 8 ай бұрын
Agreed.. for off-roading I’ve always found a manual to be the best
@prawnstar9213
@prawnstar9213 8 ай бұрын
@@Thelos7878it’s a fake manual though right?
@sarrum7696
@sarrum7696 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you all appreciate and cherish all this time you get to spend together. I lost my dad, and I’ll tell ya, you look back a lot. - Hope you guys make lots of great memories together.
@MyPastman
@MyPastman 2 жыл бұрын
Sold my tacoma and bought the 2022 Nissan pro! Loving it!!! What no one is mentioning " LIFETIME POWER TRAIN WARRANTY " for Nissan. Using the EXTRA 10 grand for a 3 inch lift and radflow springs and shocks!😁
@blessed4164
@blessed4164 2 жыл бұрын
After moding your pro4x you still have a couple thausands left over and a better truck than a 🌮
@johnnyreb9398
@johnnyreb9398 2 жыл бұрын
See you got the right idea.
@johnnyreb9398
@johnnyreb9398 2 жыл бұрын
After you are done I would LOVE to see that one put up against the almighty Toyota.
@johnnyreb9398
@johnnyreb9398 2 жыл бұрын
I will point out a bad design you will contend with that is better on toyota and pretty much any other truck I've looked at and that's upper control arm placement. For some reason niSSan didn't center the coil bucket in the upper control arm so when lifted the factory control arm bangs down on the coil bucket so you have to get aftermarket upper control arms I have alldogs offroad but there's spc too but something else I don't know if you have checked out that would be up your alley since it seems like you might have the funds for modding go look up the titan swap for the frontier I think alldogs offroad already did it on the gen 3 frontier should be a video. If you haven't seen anything on that yet it's where they take a titan front end and put it on the frontier and give it crazy travel. I believe the kit pretty much includes what I told you about and what you were talking about but I think it runs $1700-3000 not sure haven't looked lately.
@MyPastman
@MyPastman 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the parts were ordered from alldogs offroad. With radflow coils and shocks!
@frustratedalien666
@frustratedalien666 2 жыл бұрын
I think a more apples to apples comparison would be to compare a access cab Tacoma TRD Off Road against this Frontier Pro-4x. The Bilstein shocks are comparable and the price isn't significantly different either.
@kristoferfc6525
@kristoferfc6525 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but sometimes it's hard to even get the trucks they have in the video
@RaddDadd29
@RaddDadd29 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. The Fox shocks on the Pro model will dominate Bilstein basics anyday
@scrumdiddily6162
@scrumdiddily6162 2 жыл бұрын
The pro is an off-road, just with astheruc differences and a lift
@Mr14041985
@Mr14041985 2 жыл бұрын
I dont agree, they are comparing the top of the line frontier vs the top off the line tacoma so i think thats a great comparison. They are talking about 10k diference BUT only because tje frontier is the king cab, if it was the crew cab the diference in $ will be much much smaller and if that was the case ill choose the Tacoma any day
@WhosthatTeamAFC
@WhosthatTeamAFC Жыл бұрын
I feel like the TRD off road is a direct comparison to the pro4x. If frontier came out with a pro-4x nismo it’d be a direct comparison to the TRd pro.
@joseramos7476
@joseramos7476 2 жыл бұрын
When you consider price and comfort I’ll take the Nissan.
@galindojuan1
@galindojuan1 2 жыл бұрын
But would the Nissan last and hold its value as long as the Toyota? I don’t think so.
@chrisbreezy2676
@chrisbreezy2676 2 жыл бұрын
@@galindojuan1 yes, Nissan trucks last. Yes, it will hold value. Also why is the last factor such a big deal for you? What person buys a new truck and immediately thinks about it’s resale value 😂😂
@galindojuan1
@galindojuan1 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbreezy2676 can you please tell me where I said I’m going to sale it right off the bat.
@mcchickenmcflurry3636
@mcchickenmcflurry3636 2 жыл бұрын
That’s gross
@frankmaio7106
@frankmaio7106 Ай бұрын
Not me​@@chrisbreezy2676
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 2 жыл бұрын
Love the ramp to reveal the underbody details. Very nice touch.
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@Ashoud_Anobetah
@Ashoud_Anobetah Жыл бұрын
Yep got to say ive been looking for a video comparing this and this is the first review I found with this😊
@savillecreations8046
@savillecreations8046 Жыл бұрын
For less than $10,000 you could do some mods to the Frontier for better tires and higher clearance and still benefit from better breaks and power.
@SA-hk8xj
@SA-hk8xj 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, the Frontier is an “overall” 4x4 for regular roads, off roading, and what most people will use it for. Definitely a great value. The taco is a great off roader but for everyday driving it is not as comfortable nor is it a bargain 😉
@anthem4333
@anthem4333 2 жыл бұрын
Well, sure it is. The Tacoma gonna last so much longer
@steve8803
@steve8803 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthem4333 last longer? The frame rotting is a concern! And longevity for the Nissan is certainly of no concern. They are both reliable trucks.
@anthem4333
@anthem4333 2 жыл бұрын
@@steve8803 the frame rotting WAS a concern, not anymore. And let’s not act like Nissans automatic trannies are any good (except the Allison in the Titan).
@steve8803
@steve8803 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthem4333 it still is a concern according to The Car Care Nut. Let's not act like the auto tranny in the Tacoma is very pleasant, always hunting. Sluggish. I honestly believe both trucks are the most reliable in the segment. Obviously neither are perfect. Personally I would get the pro4x over the TRD pro because it's significantly cheaper in my country.
@TIJoe-te9qu
@TIJoe-te9qu Жыл бұрын
@@anthem4333 That's pure bias and conjecture. See the video of Brian Murphy who drove his Frontier a MILLION miles doing delivery work in Chicago.
@mateorichie
@mateorichie 2 жыл бұрын
Wish that king cab pro4x would make it in the states, great work as always guys
@tommyg.6820
@tommyg.6820 2 жыл бұрын
Steve your excitement is so awesome. I love the work you guys do at Truck King! Keep it up Elmers.
@truthkeeperfilms
@truthkeeperfilms 2 жыл бұрын
The class leaders here. Nissan and Toyota. Reliability. Value. Resale. Features. The domestics can't touch that.
@Arexodius
@Arexodius Жыл бұрын
It was really cool seeing you guys tackle a different set of terrain in the Minden off-road park, in addition to your own, and I believe you nailed the comparison and the verdict on these two trucks!
@TruckKing
@TruckKing Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Tacoma…but due to how old it is I seriously have trouble justifying its cost! Jeezzzz
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 2 жыл бұрын
IMO it's just a powertrain upgrade away from being near perfect.
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 2 жыл бұрын
@@OverlandOrange I understand that buddy but in 2004 I bought a Ford Expedition NBX model which was the off-road package of that year. I sold it to a friend three years ago and he still has it with 250,000 miles on it. It runs like a top and has never needed any repairs other than a left rear axle. Original starter alternator and everything else under the hood. Toyotas are not the only reliable vehicles on the road.
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 2 жыл бұрын
@@OverlandOrange I don’t think it was luck. The 5.4L 2V motor was awesome and the vehicle was garage kept with religious oil changes and regular maintenance.
@75pontiac45
@75pontiac45 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 21 TRD off road, with the TRD lift and a standard transmission. Saved $8k vs buying the pro and has all the same tech and upgraded suspension. I’ll take that manual transmission all day everyday vs the frontier for the same cost.
@moctezumaaleg2008
@moctezumaaleg2008 2 жыл бұрын
I mean many people rather have older and simple its a offroad truck or truck per say its not suppose to be fancy just get a pavement princess if thats what you want.
@clintshanks2538
@clintshanks2538 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t like the comparison of the TRD Pro vs Pro4X. Nissan needs NISMO to get involved and put out something comparable. Pro4X is the TRD off-road competitor. For 10K you could add couple inches of travel, better tires, and a front locker and still have $ leftover for dinner.
@Wuldier
@Wuldier 2 жыл бұрын
pretty much what i said too lol.
@vitocorleone3724
@vitocorleone3724 2 жыл бұрын
The Tacoma TRD off-road in the access cab configuration would have been cheaper, and about $10k less than the trd pro. The front skid plate on the TRD pro is aluminum.
@ponolovefarms3926
@ponolovefarms3926 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got that exact truck ordered and selling my 2020 pro with 43k miles. Love these trucks.
@stog9821
@stog9821 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. Price of extended vs crew cab isn’t apple to apple. The technical differences seem fair enough.
@chrislukasak8530
@chrislukasak8530 2 жыл бұрын
came here to say this
@toadis6949
@toadis6949 2 жыл бұрын
Trd pro skid plate is boron steel
@novadestroyerthesundestroy890
@novadestroyerthesundestroy890 2 жыл бұрын
@@ponolovefarms3926 how much?
@tomdowding2075
@tomdowding2075 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Thanks for doing this. I bought the 22 pro in electric lime, manual transmission. I love it. Who needs crawl control when you have 1st gear in 4LO!
@mdnazmul-vm9ib
@mdnazmul-vm9ib 2 жыл бұрын
1st gear is for rock only but hard
@mdnazmul-vm9ib
@mdnazmul-vm9ib 2 жыл бұрын
Also no demonstration on pro
@rudedog7682
@rudedog7682 2 жыл бұрын
With the extra $10,000 you can do a serious suspension upgrade!
@cnoyes72
@cnoyes72 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Buy the SR5 and upgrade the suspension, etc yourself and save $$$
@johnnyreb9398
@johnnyreb9398 2 жыл бұрын
@@cnoyes72 or you could just get the better over all truck in the first place and put decent suspension and lockers on the niSSan.
@beexiong2995
@beexiong2995 2 жыл бұрын
Buy a TRD offroad instead of the pro. It has all the tech the pro has just with bilstein shocks. Buy the factory 2 inch lift. All under 45k
@cnoyes72
@cnoyes72 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyreb9398 Yeah, that would be the Ranger. LOL
@michaelhatfull3305
@michaelhatfull3305 2 жыл бұрын
I would spend and did spend the extra $10,000 to have peace of mind of reliability. Nissan is not known for reliability at all. Hell they have been known to have one of the worst transmissions.
@northerntoyota7584
@northerntoyota7584 2 жыл бұрын
You’re right about crawl control, very jerky. Only use if needed for me. Tacoma is the better off road truck, no question
@alexgarcia3900
@alexgarcia3900 2 жыл бұрын
Craw control is literally that. It's only jerky on the lowest setting in a flat surface, but then again, it's not meant to be used in flat surface.
@johnwebb2232
@johnwebb2232 2 жыл бұрын
The trd skidplate is quarter of an inch thick aluminum, while the sound of the crawl control might not be up to the rest of the manufacturer's, it does still work, which is the whole idea of it. It's funny how back then everyone was so impressed with it, and in a lot of cases, still impresses
@moctezumaaleg2008
@moctezumaaleg2008 2 жыл бұрын
well I don't think it was ever meant to sound good.
@anthonygianettino2557
@anthonygianettino2557 2 жыл бұрын
Moreover...the crawl control system in the Tacoma is PROVEN RELIABLE
@FT099
@FT099 2 жыл бұрын
Niceeee. Thanks for sharing this new trail. I want to head down there this weekend with my Ford Ranger
@andyham6094
@andyham6094 2 жыл бұрын
The trd skid plates are also aluminum, not steel. And I’d argue the Toyota crawl control is still the best out of any brand and the jerking back and forth makes it better off road when you are trying to get over bigger rocks and that jerking really helps the Toyota trucks find and catch it’s footing slippery terrain or climbing over stuff and getting you out of situations. A
@dp935
@dp935 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that the Nissan has a fully boxed frame where as the Toyota it is a C frame.
@carmelodejesus4877
@carmelodejesus4877 Жыл бұрын
you a Tacoma men and I'm a frontier men don't a crying baby my personal opinion frontier is better..
@andrewjones-ex5xo
@andrewjones-ex5xo Жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2022 tacoma trd off road. Cannot wait to pick it up in 3 days. Had a 09 tacoma base model i bought in 2010 wit 12k miles on it. Got into an accident last month and it got totalled with 263,000 miles on it an was running strong
@raymikes1234
@raymikes1234 2 жыл бұрын
You could buy the trail edition, locking diff it has a 1 1/2 inch lift and way cheaper than the TRD, if cost is a issue, or a off road model too. The crawl control is noisy but, the new Tundra is a new system and quiet, the new Tacoma and 4Runner will be updated soon so I see why they would wait to upgrade that, not very cost efficient at the end of the model life. ,
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, the trail eddition seems like the sweet spot for the Tacoma. Plus it looks great too.
@daporter84
@daporter84 2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought the pro-4x was more on par with the trd off road would love to see that comparison?
@jmyers6175
@jmyers6175 Жыл бұрын
Agree, more equal comparison, both have bilstein shocks and stock suspension height.
@colin707
@colin707 6 ай бұрын
Great video in comparison and loved your guys' energy! New subscriber!
@Miiike604
@Miiike604 2 жыл бұрын
Love this YT channel. As always, great work. Taco is awesome but it’s due for a healthy revision with some more modern technology.
@jax1079
@jax1079 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video, guys! Always love your enthusiasm and authenticity. Hope we get to run into each other one of these days. Love your content! Keep up the excellent work. 🙌🏻
@AwesomeEricD
@AwesomeEricD 5 ай бұрын
For the $$$$ ... Pro X4 all the way !!!
@Dudewitdaplan22
@Dudewitdaplan22 2 жыл бұрын
I test drove both and I felt that you got more bang and more comfort for your buck with the Nissan. It did everything the TRD Pro could do for almost 20k cheaper, here in the states.
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN 2 жыл бұрын
20k cheaper? the dealer I'm getting my Tacoma from sells trd pro tacomas for msrp which is around 47k
@Falinzin
@Falinzin 2 жыл бұрын
@@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN In this market? Used 2020 tacos are selling for 60k. Brand new TRD pros all have a 10k+ USD market adjustment.
@scott8238
@scott8238 2 жыл бұрын
​@@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN ummm you must not be looking at a trd pro
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN 2 жыл бұрын
@@Falinzin No, they don't. The dealer I got my TRD offroad sells strictly at MSRP. They just sold 3 TRD Pros for under 50k.
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN 2 жыл бұрын
@@scott8238 wrong. If you want the dealer name I'll give it to you, the trucks are still on their site
@lthemanl
@lthemanl 2 жыл бұрын
2021 4Runner owner - My truck allows you to run one of the MTS modes in 4H. The least aggressive one. I think it's called mud/sand? I run it in the winter when I'm in deep snow and it works great! You sure the Tacoma doesn't allow it? EDIT: I stand corrected. Just confirmed in the user manuals of both the 4Runner and Tacoma. The MUD & SAND mode can be used in 4H on the 4Runner but must be in 4L on the Tacoma. Very strange!
@useryggfdcc
@useryggfdcc 2 жыл бұрын
Will test mine, Tacoma TRD 4x4 premium.
@beexiong2995
@beexiong2995 2 жыл бұрын
Probably programming considering they are very similar parttime 4wd modes
@ayoungtricknamedjim5498
@ayoungtricknamedjim5498 Жыл бұрын
You're really saying the opposite of what every other reviewer I've seen say about these. The others all say the Frontier is better than the Tacoma in nearly every way possible.
@DEEZ_NUGGETS
@DEEZ_NUGGETS 5 ай бұрын
From what I see the pro4x is just a TRD off road down to the Bilstein 4600's so comparing it to a TRD pro (especially price) seems ridiculous.
@barryw5642
@barryw5642 2 жыл бұрын
I have yet to see any other brands' crawl control equivalent get you unstuck like I've seen the toyota system work. It's not supposed to be quiet or comfortable, it's an off road feature. From observation I would still say it functions better than other systems for its intended purpose. I think it's a good tool to get unstuck more so than "cruise control" for off road. Nobody really used those systems that way that I've seen in the real world.
@raymikes1234
@raymikes1234 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100% you are spot on
@joseeduardo4327
@joseeduardo4327 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I’m unsure why he wants to go so fast in “crawl” mode haha
@lukepotosky4853
@lukepotosky4853 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t say it didn’t work it’s just not as good as every other manufacturer.
@barryw5642
@barryw5642 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukepotosky4853 I know, I'm saying it works better than other manufacturers'. It's may not be as comfortable or quiet, but it's got better off road functionality.
@ImOldGregg
@ImOldGregg 2 жыл бұрын
The taco skid is aluminum too
@OIFIIIOIF-VET
@OIFIIIOIF-VET 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how many companies have copied the front cutouts for the approach angle of the ZR2.
@jmyers6175
@jmyers6175 Жыл бұрын
Nissan not painting their half shafts and rear prop shaft. Buy some flat black paint for metal and paint over them.
@makeamericagreatagain881
@makeamericagreatagain881 4 ай бұрын
Drum brakes on a 60,000 dollar truck is a joke
@badhombre8383
@badhombre8383 2 жыл бұрын
Taco hands down 💁‍♂️ it’s a no brainer has been for decades…there’s a reason for that. 💁‍♂️
@Ryan-yi5ro
@Ryan-yi5ro 2 жыл бұрын
Taco transmissions are garbage and the truck is made for midgets.
@davidhillbrand2302
@davidhillbrand2302 2 жыл бұрын
Both nice trucks; seems like a 2" lift on the Nissan would be perfect!
@Falinzin
@Falinzin 2 жыл бұрын
I'm doing a 3 inch lift on my 2022 Pro 4x (In Tactical Green Metallic) that I just picked up - seems the right height for me, was going to do 4 inches but then it wouldn't fit in my garage! Compared to the Taco's on Toyota dealers lots here with $10-15k market adjustments I'm in the Pro 4x (Which unfortunately I still had to pay a $5k above MSRP market adjustment) for almost $20k USD less than the Taco... that's a lot of upgrades.
@scottwells6136
@scottwells6136 Жыл бұрын
@@Falinzin This is exactly the info I was hoping to see. I know the video compared stock models, but it does seem like a Pro 4x with a lift kit and a shock upgrade, if it could be done for the difference in price to a TRD Pro, would be a great vehicle.
@nismomike3182
@nismomike3182 2 жыл бұрын
I can upgrade suspension, bumpers, and tires. Powertrain on the other hand, not so much.
@francislegayada1783
@francislegayada1783 2 жыл бұрын
Totally right, the Frontier because it has the better powertrain and in my opinion has a better interior and better looks, the frontier can do anything the tacoma does offroad just maybe with a little drama and it is like the better tacoma just not as good offroad in some situations but you can fix those little offroad issues
@Falinzin
@Falinzin 2 жыл бұрын
@@francislegayada1783 A 2-3" lift and some bigger tires for the Frontier solve all of it's problems too... that's maybe $3-4k total, if you put $3-4k into the Tacos powertrain it's only going to be pushing what the Frontier is stock, and you can't solve that jerky transmission either.
@c.r.rg9529
@c.r.rg9529 Жыл бұрын
Still have my 1991 toy 4x4 22re 4cylinder 151k miles. Tough little truck😅
@Scouser74
@Scouser74 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good video, I've been looking at getting a Tacoma, and your videos are great at showing what they can do, cheers from BC
@perrydavies3592
@perrydavies3592 Жыл бұрын
full disclosure, I had to have my engine rebuilt on my 2016 tacoma at 119K miles.... yea.... The dealership told me how rare it was, even though they had several 3rd gens up on the lifts getting major repairs. I think toyota slipped in the quality control and hides major problems... took 3 months for a rebuild, over $3200 in car rental fees....
@1PokerMan
@1PokerMan Жыл бұрын
It is crazy, it is incredible that in 2023 the Tacoma does not have a rear disc brake, it is not understood
@mattklassen5519
@mattklassen5519 2 жыл бұрын
There is a steel skid plate under the aluminum plate in the front of the Frontier
@sonmanic3408
@sonmanic3408 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 22 frontier pro 4x. And I love the damn thing!! My only gripe is the intelligent braking system. I believe that it's a little 'dramatic'. Thoughts?
@70DMac
@70DMac 2 жыл бұрын
For a few dollars you can put a lift in the Nissan, upgrade the tires and get aftermarket steel front skid plate for a lot less than 10k.
@joesmithatridecorp9011
@joesmithatridecorp9011 7 күн бұрын
It's not exactly apples to apples. but a $1000-dollar Bilstein set up with its 2 inches of lift and some Kenda Kutter R/t -for about a total of $3000 (possibly need a 1inch spacer/cheap) you not only are in front and going to stay there but you have a tough looking truck and over $5000 to put in your pocket. Tacoma is Badass no doubt and you have to put work in to pass it in the frontier- But in a sense your making $$$ and that always takes work! Nobody rocks those trucks like Truck King-I get a belly laugh sometimes watching those new trucks get it just the same way as if it was an old truck that was well used. Thank you guys - Happy Holidays
@davidt.7558
@davidt.7558 2 жыл бұрын
I would always choose toyota over all.
@kennethm.380
@kennethm.380 3 ай бұрын
yeah, that koolaid tastes just right?
@DanielGloverTheGreat
@DanielGloverTheGreat 2 жыл бұрын
Just received my 2022 Frontier Pro-4X Crew Cab and did some trails with it here in Utah. Definitely more worth the money after dealer fees are incorporated into the pricing. Toyota dealers want $20,000 on top of MSRP and Nissan wanted a standard markup. Far and away more worth it to get the Frontier. Now, a year from now if the market cools down and prices become regular again, Tacoma may be the clear winner. But as the market stands, get a Frontier plus a lift and STILL save $16,500 over a Tacoma. Both are great trucks, no doubt.
@MiK3Y13
@MiK3Y13 2 жыл бұрын
of course you would say that when you bought one. gotta justify it somehow
@toma.6942
@toma.6942 4 ай бұрын
​​@@MiK3Y13I am looking for a New truck myself. Could buy either. But I would take the Nissan all day and I just might buy a new one next year. Had my friends 2023 Tacoma for a week and not impressed at all. While I was definitely impressed with the frontier on test drive.
@MiK3Y13
@MiK3Y13 4 ай бұрын
@@toma.6942 sure some people will it. There’s an ass for every seat. But by large numbers it’s the best selling for a reason
@toma.6942
@toma.6942 4 ай бұрын
@@MiK3Y13 I understand your point. But researching the frontier for awhile now. It has very good realibilty. I was actually very surprised
@Aceinfinity-le8zc
@Aceinfinity-le8zc 2 ай бұрын
How did it hold up ?
@carolinawoods-n-water4392
@carolinawoods-n-water4392 2 жыл бұрын
I like the new redesigned Frontier Pro4X a lot - but I’d go for the Toyota all day long & twice on Sunday, hands down!
@dridi5964
@dridi5964 5 ай бұрын
So you buy a frontier you upgrade it with a lift and better tires and you still save money and you get way superior truck than a Tacoma with fake skid plates and bad breaks
@Kusgan4x4
@Kusgan4x4 2 жыл бұрын
3" lift & Cooper MTs on my pro 4X. it does well off-road.
@alinhinthoulay6323
@alinhinthoulay6323 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Lift and didn't run me any where near an extra $10k
@MiK3Y13
@MiK3Y13 2 жыл бұрын
@@alinhinthoulay6323 ya but you know that the extra money into the 4x is now gone... the pro tacoma you can always sell for comparison to the new Price of a pro...
@erickullmann9037
@erickullmann9037 Жыл бұрын
I already bought the Tacoma and was wondering if I should upgrade the tires. I am impressed with how much those stock tires can get through. I know they dont have the sidewall protection of a KO2 but the traction is impressive.
@ryanbachman380
@ryanbachman380 10 ай бұрын
Tacoma all the way 🤙🏻
@toma.6942
@toma.6942 4 ай бұрын
Nope.
@dontderockmerizz3211
@dontderockmerizz3211 2 жыл бұрын
Turning radius has ALWAYS been a problem for Frontiers. Hard to believe Nissan hasn’t improved that. I have a 2011 Suzuki Equator (rebadged frontier) & the turning circle is a real pain in the a**. Especially for parking in tight lots.
@randalsweeting661
@randalsweeting661 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is all nissan did was put a new cab on a old fram. I would like to have seen a all new fram to match the new cab. The nissan looks awesome but its still has all the same problems that I hated on my 2017. The turn radius and open diffs. I loved my 2000 era frontier. Only thing that truck needed was more power lol. Give me that light weight nimble truck with the new 3.8 engine and 9speed.
@GeorgeSawtooth
@GeorgeSawtooth 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of moron worries about a turning radius of a 4WD?
@dontderockmerizz3211
@dontderockmerizz3211 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeSawtooth um, the 2WD is the same tough guy. Do you own one? I do. It’s f’n aggravating.
@GeorgeSawtooth
@GeorgeSawtooth 2 жыл бұрын
@@dontderockmerizz3211 Yeah I am a tough guy and could probably kick anyone's ass in a street fight and I don't care what a turning radius is on a truck. Buy a Prius.
@c0ldyloxproductions324
@c0ldyloxproductions324 2 жыл бұрын
@@randalsweeting661 open diffs? They are limited slip diffs not open, the old first gen was open diffs
@frustratedalien666
@frustratedalien666 2 жыл бұрын
I agree the crawl control system makes a lot of noise and isn't the smoothest, but it gets the job done, so I don't see the problem with it. You can reach up and increase its speed with the knobs a bit and it won't do this lurching. The lowest setting is useful only when you really need to be that slow. If you look at the Ford Ranger (at least the 2020 and 2021 model years), the crawl control doesn't go down to this speed. Personally, I don't care as long as it works.
@antonio7815
@antonio7815 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid man
@elaw1995
@elaw1995 2 жыл бұрын
Another great comparison video … thanks! BTW the Tacoma’s skid plate is also aluminum
@g7003041
@g7003041 2 жыл бұрын
Love your review... best duo.
@daniDEE_tv
@daniDEE_tv 2 жыл бұрын
Great scenary. post cordinates for trails and maps if possible later videos for local people to have a chance take the same course to "feel" the vibe if yah know i mean. awsome
@fishing_with_chaz
@fishing_with_chaz 2 жыл бұрын
Hands down between the creature comforts inside and the bang for the buck I'm all in for the Nissan frontier it's cheaper and you can do a lot of upgrades for 10 grand price difference plus the 9 speed keeps the frontier from searching for a gear when pulling hills and the bed isn't lined with plastic it's a steel bed that you can have line x sprayed in.
@GarryMurray-i1y
@GarryMurray-i1y Жыл бұрын
Great video. After test driving both as a daily driver , I’m going Frontier. Better power band and transmission as well as better fuel economy, which I tested. Both make reliable trucks but for bang for the buck and overall ergonomics and long term use. I think the Frontier is a tad better. Nissan doesn’t get enough credit for their motors. The 5.6 as well as the former 4.0 litre are Bulletproof. Always like the appearance of the TRD Pro but just not behind the wheel as much.
@scott8238
@scott8238 2 жыл бұрын
For this test to be fair you would compare the Pro4x vs the normal TRD but since you didn't just add the nismo 2 inch lift and then this would be an even match up with 8k still in your pocket with a much better power train and overall better truck being the the Nissan hands down.
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx 2 жыл бұрын
Nissan doesn't offer manual trans.Toyota does. Checkmate.
@scott8238
@scott8238 2 жыл бұрын
@@Doomzdayxx Tacoma doesn't offer a fully boxed titan half ton frame. Check mate.
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@scott8238 we're talking small trucks, not half ton. Sorry, no checkmate. In your defense though, Nissan still offers a naturally aspirated V8, which might last as long or maybe longer than the shitty tt v6 in the tundra.
@rrrrrrtt1
@rrrrrrtt1 2 жыл бұрын
just interesting watching your stories about stuff other than the trucks! :) Truck stuff cool too.
@gregmve6gcm
@gregmve6gcm 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you on the locker only being available in 4 low. My 20 Ram 1500 with the offroad package can be locked in any mode including 2 wd. Something Toyota needs to address.
@abielcantu9629
@abielcantu9629 2 жыл бұрын
Locker or no Locker, Toyota buyers will be loyal to the brand due to it’s reliability better re-sale value things that unfortunately Dodge does not currently offer.
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 2 жыл бұрын
I pick the Nissan Frontier PRO-4X for 2022. All bets off when the new Tacoma, Ranger, and GM-Twins are released.
@derekberry1399
@derekberry1399 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah good thing they got a head start. Can't wait to see how the new Colorado is.
@randomuser3555
@randomuser3555 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2023 Pro-4X. First of all, yes I wanted a Taco-Pro. The price difference was huge. In Texas we didn't suffer as much from the whole dealer "market adjustment" scams so you could get decent deals on trucks. I replaced my 2002 Silverado 4X4 5.3 Vortec. The old girl has 235K miles and now my son drives it. The Pro-4X was much cheaper with way more options. I love my little truck, but...that beautiful front end design on the Taco is just magnificent IMO. Just not worth the extra funds for a weaker drive train. Also the fully enclosed box frame and armor work on my Nissan is top notch! But damn the old Taco is sexy! But honestly, those Fox Shocks while not as good on the road are great off road! However my Nissan does handle way better on pavement. Give and Take situation I guess. I also don't have to worry about salted roads, so spray some WD-40 on the underside and good to go man!
@netcruzer
@netcruzer 2 жыл бұрын
The king cab long box Pro-4X doesn't get the fender flares? Interesting omission compared to the crew cab.
@getlosttoday4045
@getlosttoday4045 2 жыл бұрын
happy Father's day TK!
@Jay-us8ko
@Jay-us8ko 2 жыл бұрын
I like how these trucks get through the water I live in Orlando this year we have real bad hurricanes I saw a small car trying to get through the water they started smoking I was seeing the big trucks go through the water with no problem
@poltergeist3194
@poltergeist3194 Ай бұрын
Canada is so lucky, in that you get the Pro-4X in a King cab offering. In the states we can only get a Pro-4X in a Crew Cab.
@pcasso87
@pcasso87 2 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if we can see the spare tire space as well to see if it can fit a bigger tire.
@ChadHargis
@ChadHargis 5 ай бұрын
Save $10k and put $5k worth of aftermarket protection and suspension on the Frontier and use the other $5k for gas. :)
@trail-wolf4x4
@trail-wolf4x4 2 жыл бұрын
While I really love the redesign of the Frontier, having test driven an SV, it still feels like it's a bit overpriced and over hyped
@francislegayada1783
@francislegayada1783 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Frontier is actually underrated because when it first came out, people were excited for a little bit but after a couple of weeks the hype went down, when the tacoma came out in 2016 it was super hyped up and i think over hyped because the hype of the tacoma is pretty much still there and I would choose the Frontier because it has the better powertrain and in my opinion has a better interior and better looks, the frontier can do anything the tacoma does offroad just maybe with a little drama and it is like the better tacoma just not as good offroad in some situations
@johnnyreb9398
@johnnyreb9398 2 жыл бұрын
What's the great price on that Toyota running now, $100,000?
@TheConservativesrock
@TheConservativesrock 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 21 with the same powertrain as 22, but the old body and interior. Powertrain is excellent on the road. Turn radius is atrocious
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN 2 жыл бұрын
​@@TheConservativesrock the Chrysler pt cruiser and 2nd gen Frontiers have the worst turning radius of any vehicle I've driven...and I deal cars for a living..
@jesseriley7681
@jesseriley7681 2 жыл бұрын
It’d be cool 😎 if Toyota would let you get the tundra running 🏃‍♀️ gear ⚙️ in the taco 🌮
@gongsu
@gongsu 2 жыл бұрын
After seeing the Nissan perform, and the price of the Tacoma. I'm even more torn between the Colorado or ranger lol
@dennissmith7214
@dennissmith7214 2 жыл бұрын
Colorado for sure! 😁
@mattlee4807
@mattlee4807 2 жыл бұрын
I’m biased, but the Ranger Tremor is a beast.
@axeamaniac4490
@axeamaniac4490 2 жыл бұрын
You could take that 10k difference and put it into the Nissan and add tires and suspension giving it more clearence and offroad capabilities.
@MiK3Y13
@MiK3Y13 2 жыл бұрын
Sure but then it'll break down and all that 10000 is thrown away, plus if you buy the Pro Tacoma the 10000 grand increase in price always has resale value.. meaning when you trade it in its worth more, win win! Upgrades dont mean its worth more.. just throwing pointless money into a vehicle.
@chocolatemagneto9679
@chocolatemagneto9679 2 жыл бұрын
@@MiK3Y13 The frontier reliability is on par with the Tacoma. Never heard anything bad about it
@jesseriley7681
@jesseriley7681 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Nissan definitely has better under body protection than the taco 🌮 does
@northerntoyota7584
@northerntoyota7584 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the Nissan’s front diff, exposed. The 1/4 aluminum skid on the Tacoma protects what you’re most likely to hit a lot better than the thin tin plates on the Nissan
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 2 жыл бұрын
@@northerntoyota7584 both look pretty darn good for OEM offerings. The Nissans diff is exposed but looks like it’s tucked up a good deal and adjacent to the center skid plate.
@jg8263
@jg8263 2 жыл бұрын
@@northerntoyota7584 Yeah, but if you are making contact mid vehicle, then kiss the Taco's exhaust goodbye. The Frontier definitely packaged the exhaust away better.
@joma13344
@joma13344 2 жыл бұрын
@@northerntoyota7584 The frame on the frontier also does a better job of protecting things. The transfer case sticks down a bit on the tacoma.
@zeak617
@zeak617 2 жыл бұрын
Great content. Thanks for the video.
@seaneastman6323
@seaneastman6323 3 ай бұрын
We all wanna see the new taco compared to the new nissan 2024 please. Great videos
@marksullivan8200
@marksullivan8200 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the nismo upgraded billstien shocks / leveling upgrade on the frontier against the much more expensive tacoma
@baileymccormick7474
@baileymccormick7474 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve I’d love to see you guys bring the ranger tremor out to the off road park.
@mattlee4807
@mattlee4807 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I think it would be a great comparison video with the Taco.
@bullitt743
@bullitt743 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! I have a a TRD with crawl control and it works great! it makes noise for certain, however i use it when i need it. Its rare that i use it, in fact i can't remember ever like cruising with it on a little muddy road. I use it to get out of being stuck and very slow technical situations. Nissan Shock mounts are higher than the rear diff at least you don't need to put a spare tire kit in the Bed where your gear/load is to be placed.
@alexgarcia3900
@alexgarcia3900 2 жыл бұрын
The nissan frontier doesn't compete with the trd pro though. It be better to compare it to the trd off road access cab. That is it's direct competitor, it even has the same shocks.
@dalephillips8250
@dalephillips8250 2 жыл бұрын
Tacoma is better off road but I'd put my money on the Nissan because I don't go offroad but 10% at most. Also I could add larger tires later for clearance and still be well under the price of the TRD PRO Tacoma.
@perrydavies3592
@perrydavies3592 Жыл бұрын
I guess for 10K you could definitely lift the frontier and have the clearance, and upgrade the skid plates, and have gas money for a half year.
@gabemord5088
@gabemord5088 Жыл бұрын
I know right. Won't cost anywhere near 10k for a lift 😂
@deejayimm
@deejayimm 2 жыл бұрын
Never understood any reasoning behind plastic skid plates other than just being able to put "skid plates" on the sticker and charge more. Also, we here in Indiana would like to thank you for all that fine Canadian soil we have here, thanks to those glaciers.. lol
@HAHA.GoodMeme
@HAHA.GoodMeme 2 жыл бұрын
The TRD off-road model has no hoodscoop and is the one to get. exhaust reroute and flat mid skid is a must if you're going to be doing serious wheeling in your taco. The clearance on my taco shocks me every time i go out. crawl control is a gimmick on every brand.
@terrynichol577
@terrynichol577 2 жыл бұрын
Gimmick? Are you that uneducated?
@smcjefe
@smcjefe 11 ай бұрын
6:21 given the price difference a more fair comparison would of been a TRD off road vs a Pro X4
@SeanStewart88
@SeanStewart88 2 жыл бұрын
Both solid trucks. I currently own a TRD off road. I also had an older frontier I traded in but over you can’t go wrong in either. I do give the off-road win to the Tacoma though.
@jl6757
@jl6757 2 жыл бұрын
Is Ironwood Hydroline a trail or your property? this channel is sick!
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 2 жыл бұрын
That's our own property. But, there are lots of free trails in Ontario
@axellness
@axellness 2 жыл бұрын
Nissan hands down. Taco feels sluggish and it's old af. Frontier is also more comfortable.
@WhosthatTeamAFC
@WhosthatTeamAFC Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Trd off road edges out frontier in off-road capabilities but on-road driving is night & day between the two. Had my heart set on a Tacoma but ended up with the frontier after test driving. (2023 models btw)
@PardyN2
@PardyN2 Жыл бұрын
Wait this was filmed in northern Ontario?
@TruckKing
@TruckKing Жыл бұрын
certainly was
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx 2 жыл бұрын
That extra $8k for the Tacoma will be totally worth it once you start getting up into the 200k+ miles territory. Trust me on this.
@MiK3Y13
@MiK3Y13 2 жыл бұрын
Dont need to trust you,, just go look on used vehicle sites, hahaha people know how it is..
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@MiK3Y13 after buying my used '00 Camry, I have been a faithful toyota fanboy. That car (which I still have) has treated me well. so I was probably going to go with the tacoma anyway
@Ashoud_Anobetah
@Ashoud_Anobetah Жыл бұрын
Yeah for those who want a camry engine
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx Жыл бұрын
@@Ashoud_Anobetah It's a small truck. Doesn't need a HD pickup truck powertrain. It's like whining about a Prius not having a twin turbo V8. Dumb. The sales numbers don't lie. rangers, and colorados might have better performance, but they are cheaply built dumpster fires.
@Linknelson
@Linknelson 2 жыл бұрын
Nissan has done the steel skid plate at least since 2019, because my truck has one as well for PRO4x
@claudiodelcastillo893
@claudiodelcastillo893 3 ай бұрын
With 10,000 I can afford a 2.5in leveling kit and a few more goodies.
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