I've always been a Taco guy and owned a 4Runner for a bit. Got a Pro-4X in January and I love it! I took it out for a spin in the trails and it really did just fine. Now, I don't do extreme stuff like in the video, so I think the Frontier has an edge over the Taco when it comes to smoothness, interior desing and overall bang for your buck. Yes, we know the Taco is reliable and the Frontier is brand new, yet I decided to get the "new" Nissan a chance. So far, so good!
@josefermalino4612 жыл бұрын
Already has a recall for the Nissan
@redandblack1911 Жыл бұрын
@@josefermalino461 what recall?
@perrydavies3592 Жыл бұрын
my 2016 already had an engine rebuild at 119K, paint is fading hard on the roof, (yes I waxed it 4 times a year). tail gate shock is broken, plastic trim inside the sunroof fell off... Yea, so I am not real happy with my Taco. Oh and Toyota corp said no help.... So, pretty much one of the worst vehicles I have ever owned. Major bummer. I got it for the reliability and it sucks. Oh and the gas mileage isn't even close to what they advertise. sorry guys. I wanted to love it, but can't wait to get a new truck when I get the money...
@sammyjammy6647 Жыл бұрын
@@perrydavies3592😂😂😂
@Josh-by8mq8 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on it now?
@Arkeo362 жыл бұрын
I said it before in a different video about the Frontier, but the Frontier is probably the pound-for-pound most overbuilt and robust passenger vehicle sold in North America.
@Rigo92 жыл бұрын
How so? I owe one and I love it. First truck I’ve owned
@johnnyreb93982 жыл бұрын
@@Rigo9 he wasn't saying that's a negative.
@Rigo92 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyreb9398 I know, I meant as in I would like to know how. When it comes to vehicles I just mess around with the basics and this being my first truck I’d like to know
@bjornironsides64742 жыл бұрын
@@Rigo9 think miniature titan. Full box frame like titan and f150. And ram :)
@orlandoduran77402 жыл бұрын
@@bjornironsides6474 the ranger and colorado/canyon also have fully box high strength steel frames
@briankelley6162 жыл бұрын
Goin' muddin' with your dad in two cool trucks, that's a good day eh. Happy Father's Day to all the dads. Thank you Truck King for another fun video. 😁
@DireWolf282 жыл бұрын
Nissan really needs to bring back the 6 speed manual transmission option for the new frontier. That truck would be a killer piece of kit!
@Thelos7878 Жыл бұрын
That’s the only reason I picked the Tacoma over the Frontier. 6speed MT and I’m jumping to Nissan.
@justing6594 Жыл бұрын
Same here! Patiently waiting.
@donays824110 ай бұрын
Ill wait, they need to have as toyota still keep it.
@prawnstar92138 ай бұрын
Agreed.. for off-roading I’ve always found a manual to be the best
@prawnstar92138 ай бұрын
@@Thelos7878it’s a fake manual though right?
@sarrum76962 жыл бұрын
Hope you all appreciate and cherish all this time you get to spend together. I lost my dad, and I’ll tell ya, you look back a lot. - Hope you guys make lots of great memories together.
@MyPastman2 жыл бұрын
Sold my tacoma and bought the 2022 Nissan pro! Loving it!!! What no one is mentioning " LIFETIME POWER TRAIN WARRANTY " for Nissan. Using the EXTRA 10 grand for a 3 inch lift and radflow springs and shocks!😁
@blessed41642 жыл бұрын
After moding your pro4x you still have a couple thausands left over and a better truck than a 🌮
@johnnyreb93982 жыл бұрын
See you got the right idea.
@johnnyreb93982 жыл бұрын
After you are done I would LOVE to see that one put up against the almighty Toyota.
@johnnyreb93982 жыл бұрын
I will point out a bad design you will contend with that is better on toyota and pretty much any other truck I've looked at and that's upper control arm placement. For some reason niSSan didn't center the coil bucket in the upper control arm so when lifted the factory control arm bangs down on the coil bucket so you have to get aftermarket upper control arms I have alldogs offroad but there's spc too but something else I don't know if you have checked out that would be up your alley since it seems like you might have the funds for modding go look up the titan swap for the frontier I think alldogs offroad already did it on the gen 3 frontier should be a video. If you haven't seen anything on that yet it's where they take a titan front end and put it on the frontier and give it crazy travel. I believe the kit pretty much includes what I told you about and what you were talking about but I think it runs $1700-3000 not sure haven't looked lately.
@MyPastman2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the parts were ordered from alldogs offroad. With radflow coils and shocks!
@frustratedalien6662 жыл бұрын
I think a more apples to apples comparison would be to compare a access cab Tacoma TRD Off Road against this Frontier Pro-4x. The Bilstein shocks are comparable and the price isn't significantly different either.
@kristoferfc65252 жыл бұрын
I agree, but sometimes it's hard to even get the trucks they have in the video
@RaddDadd292 жыл бұрын
I agree. The Fox shocks on the Pro model will dominate Bilstein basics anyday
@scrumdiddily61622 жыл бұрын
The pro is an off-road, just with astheruc differences and a lift
@Mr140419852 жыл бұрын
I dont agree, they are comparing the top of the line frontier vs the top off the line tacoma so i think thats a great comparison. They are talking about 10k diference BUT only because tje frontier is the king cab, if it was the crew cab the diference in $ will be much much smaller and if that was the case ill choose the Tacoma any day
@WhosthatTeamAFC Жыл бұрын
I feel like the TRD off road is a direct comparison to the pro4x. If frontier came out with a pro-4x nismo it’d be a direct comparison to the TRd pro.
@joseramos74762 жыл бұрын
When you consider price and comfort I’ll take the Nissan.
@galindojuan12 жыл бұрын
But would the Nissan last and hold its value as long as the Toyota? I don’t think so.
@chrisbreezy26762 жыл бұрын
@@galindojuan1 yes, Nissan trucks last. Yes, it will hold value. Also why is the last factor such a big deal for you? What person buys a new truck and immediately thinks about it’s resale value 😂😂
@galindojuan12 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbreezy2676 can you please tell me where I said I’m going to sale it right off the bat.
@mcchickenmcflurry36362 жыл бұрын
That’s gross
@frankmaio7106Ай бұрын
Not me@@chrisbreezy2676
@anthonyc18832 жыл бұрын
Love the ramp to reveal the underbody details. Very nice touch.
@TruckKing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@Ashoud_Anobetah Жыл бұрын
Yep got to say ive been looking for a video comparing this and this is the first review I found with this😊
@savillecreations8046 Жыл бұрын
For less than $10,000 you could do some mods to the Frontier for better tires and higher clearance and still benefit from better breaks and power.
@SA-hk8xj2 жыл бұрын
Agree, the Frontier is an “overall” 4x4 for regular roads, off roading, and what most people will use it for. Definitely a great value. The taco is a great off roader but for everyday driving it is not as comfortable nor is it a bargain 😉
@anthem43332 жыл бұрын
Well, sure it is. The Tacoma gonna last so much longer
@steve88032 жыл бұрын
@@anthem4333 last longer? The frame rotting is a concern! And longevity for the Nissan is certainly of no concern. They are both reliable trucks.
@anthem43332 жыл бұрын
@@steve8803 the frame rotting WAS a concern, not anymore. And let’s not act like Nissans automatic trannies are any good (except the Allison in the Titan).
@steve88032 жыл бұрын
@@anthem4333 it still is a concern according to The Car Care Nut. Let's not act like the auto tranny in the Tacoma is very pleasant, always hunting. Sluggish. I honestly believe both trucks are the most reliable in the segment. Obviously neither are perfect. Personally I would get the pro4x over the TRD pro because it's significantly cheaper in my country.
@TIJoe-te9qu Жыл бұрын
@@anthem4333 That's pure bias and conjecture. See the video of Brian Murphy who drove his Frontier a MILLION miles doing delivery work in Chicago.
@mateorichie2 жыл бұрын
Wish that king cab pro4x would make it in the states, great work as always guys
@tommyg.68202 жыл бұрын
Steve your excitement is so awesome. I love the work you guys do at Truck King! Keep it up Elmers.
@truthkeeperfilms2 жыл бұрын
The class leaders here. Nissan and Toyota. Reliability. Value. Resale. Features. The domestics can't touch that.
@Arexodius Жыл бұрын
It was really cool seeing you guys tackle a different set of terrain in the Minden off-road park, in addition to your own, and I believe you nailed the comparison and the verdict on these two trucks!
@TruckKing Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@DUNEATV2 жыл бұрын
Love the Tacoma…but due to how old it is I seriously have trouble justifying its cost! Jeezzzz
@ALMX5DP2 жыл бұрын
IMO it's just a powertrain upgrade away from being near perfect.
@DUNEATV2 жыл бұрын
@@OverlandOrange I understand that buddy but in 2004 I bought a Ford Expedition NBX model which was the off-road package of that year. I sold it to a friend three years ago and he still has it with 250,000 miles on it. It runs like a top and has never needed any repairs other than a left rear axle. Original starter alternator and everything else under the hood. Toyotas are not the only reliable vehicles on the road.
@DUNEATV2 жыл бұрын
@@OverlandOrange I don’t think it was luck. The 5.4L 2V motor was awesome and the vehicle was garage kept with religious oil changes and regular maintenance.
@75pontiac452 жыл бұрын
I have a 21 TRD off road, with the TRD lift and a standard transmission. Saved $8k vs buying the pro and has all the same tech and upgraded suspension. I’ll take that manual transmission all day everyday vs the frontier for the same cost.
@moctezumaaleg20082 жыл бұрын
I mean many people rather have older and simple its a offroad truck or truck per say its not suppose to be fancy just get a pavement princess if thats what you want.
@clintshanks25382 жыл бұрын
Don’t like the comparison of the TRD Pro vs Pro4X. Nissan needs NISMO to get involved and put out something comparable. Pro4X is the TRD off-road competitor. For 10K you could add couple inches of travel, better tires, and a front locker and still have $ leftover for dinner.
@Wuldier2 жыл бұрын
pretty much what i said too lol.
@vitocorleone37242 жыл бұрын
The Tacoma TRD off-road in the access cab configuration would have been cheaper, and about $10k less than the trd pro. The front skid plate on the TRD pro is aluminum.
@ponolovefarms39262 жыл бұрын
I’ve got that exact truck ordered and selling my 2020 pro with 43k miles. Love these trucks.
@stog98212 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. Price of extended vs crew cab isn’t apple to apple. The technical differences seem fair enough.
@chrislukasak85302 жыл бұрын
came here to say this
@toadis69492 жыл бұрын
Trd pro skid plate is boron steel
@novadestroyerthesundestroy8902 жыл бұрын
@@ponolovefarms3926 how much?
@tomdowding20752 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Thanks for doing this. I bought the 22 pro in electric lime, manual transmission. I love it. Who needs crawl control when you have 1st gear in 4LO!
@mdnazmul-vm9ib2 жыл бұрын
1st gear is for rock only but hard
@mdnazmul-vm9ib2 жыл бұрын
Also no demonstration on pro
@rudedog76822 жыл бұрын
With the extra $10,000 you can do a serious suspension upgrade!
@cnoyes722 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Buy the SR5 and upgrade the suspension, etc yourself and save $$$
@johnnyreb93982 жыл бұрын
@@cnoyes72 or you could just get the better over all truck in the first place and put decent suspension and lockers on the niSSan.
@beexiong29952 жыл бұрын
Buy a TRD offroad instead of the pro. It has all the tech the pro has just with bilstein shocks. Buy the factory 2 inch lift. All under 45k
@cnoyes722 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyreb9398 Yeah, that would be the Ranger. LOL
@michaelhatfull33052 жыл бұрын
I would spend and did spend the extra $10,000 to have peace of mind of reliability. Nissan is not known for reliability at all. Hell they have been known to have one of the worst transmissions.
@northerntoyota75842 жыл бұрын
You’re right about crawl control, very jerky. Only use if needed for me. Tacoma is the better off road truck, no question
@alexgarcia39002 жыл бұрын
Craw control is literally that. It's only jerky on the lowest setting in a flat surface, but then again, it's not meant to be used in flat surface.
@johnwebb22322 жыл бұрын
The trd skidplate is quarter of an inch thick aluminum, while the sound of the crawl control might not be up to the rest of the manufacturer's, it does still work, which is the whole idea of it. It's funny how back then everyone was so impressed with it, and in a lot of cases, still impresses
@moctezumaaleg20082 жыл бұрын
well I don't think it was ever meant to sound good.
@anthonygianettino25572 жыл бұрын
Moreover...the crawl control system in the Tacoma is PROVEN RELIABLE
@FT0992 жыл бұрын
Niceeee. Thanks for sharing this new trail. I want to head down there this weekend with my Ford Ranger
@andyham60942 жыл бұрын
The trd skid plates are also aluminum, not steel. And I’d argue the Toyota crawl control is still the best out of any brand and the jerking back and forth makes it better off road when you are trying to get over bigger rocks and that jerking really helps the Toyota trucks find and catch it’s footing slippery terrain or climbing over stuff and getting you out of situations. A
@dp9352 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that the Nissan has a fully boxed frame where as the Toyota it is a C frame.
@carmelodejesus4877 Жыл бұрын
you a Tacoma men and I'm a frontier men don't a crying baby my personal opinion frontier is better..
@andrewjones-ex5xo Жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2022 tacoma trd off road. Cannot wait to pick it up in 3 days. Had a 09 tacoma base model i bought in 2010 wit 12k miles on it. Got into an accident last month and it got totalled with 263,000 miles on it an was running strong
@raymikes12342 жыл бұрын
You could buy the trail edition, locking diff it has a 1 1/2 inch lift and way cheaper than the TRD, if cost is a issue, or a off road model too. The crawl control is noisy but, the new Tundra is a new system and quiet, the new Tacoma and 4Runner will be updated soon so I see why they would wait to upgrade that, not very cost efficient at the end of the model life. ,
@trailrunnah88862 жыл бұрын
Agree, the trail eddition seems like the sweet spot for the Tacoma. Plus it looks great too.
@daporter842 жыл бұрын
I've always thought the pro-4x was more on par with the trd off road would love to see that comparison?
@jmyers6175 Жыл бұрын
Agree, more equal comparison, both have bilstein shocks and stock suspension height.
@colin7076 ай бұрын
Great video in comparison and loved your guys' energy! New subscriber!
@Miiike6042 жыл бұрын
Love this YT channel. As always, great work. Taco is awesome but it’s due for a healthy revision with some more modern technology.
@jax10792 жыл бұрын
What a great video, guys! Always love your enthusiasm and authenticity. Hope we get to run into each other one of these days. Love your content! Keep up the excellent work. 🙌🏻
@AwesomeEricD5 ай бұрын
For the $$$$ ... Pro X4 all the way !!!
@Dudewitdaplan222 жыл бұрын
I test drove both and I felt that you got more bang and more comfort for your buck with the Nissan. It did everything the TRD Pro could do for almost 20k cheaper, here in the states.
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN2 жыл бұрын
20k cheaper? the dealer I'm getting my Tacoma from sells trd pro tacomas for msrp which is around 47k
@Falinzin2 жыл бұрын
@@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN In this market? Used 2020 tacos are selling for 60k. Brand new TRD pros all have a 10k+ USD market adjustment.
@scott82382 жыл бұрын
@@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN ummm you must not be looking at a trd pro
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN2 жыл бұрын
@@Falinzin No, they don't. The dealer I got my TRD offroad sells strictly at MSRP. They just sold 3 TRD Pros for under 50k.
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN2 жыл бұрын
@@scott8238 wrong. If you want the dealer name I'll give it to you, the trucks are still on their site
@lthemanl2 жыл бұрын
2021 4Runner owner - My truck allows you to run one of the MTS modes in 4H. The least aggressive one. I think it's called mud/sand? I run it in the winter when I'm in deep snow and it works great! You sure the Tacoma doesn't allow it? EDIT: I stand corrected. Just confirmed in the user manuals of both the 4Runner and Tacoma. The MUD & SAND mode can be used in 4H on the 4Runner but must be in 4L on the Tacoma. Very strange!
@useryggfdcc2 жыл бұрын
Will test mine, Tacoma TRD 4x4 premium.
@beexiong29952 жыл бұрын
Probably programming considering they are very similar parttime 4wd modes
@ayoungtricknamedjim5498 Жыл бұрын
You're really saying the opposite of what every other reviewer I've seen say about these. The others all say the Frontier is better than the Tacoma in nearly every way possible.
@DEEZ_NUGGETS5 ай бұрын
From what I see the pro4x is just a TRD off road down to the Bilstein 4600's so comparing it to a TRD pro (especially price) seems ridiculous.
@barryw56422 жыл бұрын
I have yet to see any other brands' crawl control equivalent get you unstuck like I've seen the toyota system work. It's not supposed to be quiet or comfortable, it's an off road feature. From observation I would still say it functions better than other systems for its intended purpose. I think it's a good tool to get unstuck more so than "cruise control" for off road. Nobody really used those systems that way that I've seen in the real world.
@raymikes12342 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100% you are spot on
@joseeduardo43272 жыл бұрын
Yea I’m unsure why he wants to go so fast in “crawl” mode haha
@lukepotosky48532 жыл бұрын
He didn’t say it didn’t work it’s just not as good as every other manufacturer.
@barryw56422 жыл бұрын
@@lukepotosky4853 I know, I'm saying it works better than other manufacturers'. It's may not be as comfortable or quiet, but it's got better off road functionality.
@ImOldGregg2 жыл бұрын
The taco skid is aluminum too
@OIFIIIOIF-VET2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how many companies have copied the front cutouts for the approach angle of the ZR2.
@jmyers6175 Жыл бұрын
Nissan not painting their half shafts and rear prop shaft. Buy some flat black paint for metal and paint over them.
@makeamericagreatagain8814 ай бұрын
Drum brakes on a 60,000 dollar truck is a joke
@badhombre83832 жыл бұрын
Taco hands down 💁♂️ it’s a no brainer has been for decades…there’s a reason for that. 💁♂️
@Ryan-yi5ro2 жыл бұрын
Taco transmissions are garbage and the truck is made for midgets.
@davidhillbrand23022 жыл бұрын
Both nice trucks; seems like a 2" lift on the Nissan would be perfect!
@Falinzin2 жыл бұрын
I'm doing a 3 inch lift on my 2022 Pro 4x (In Tactical Green Metallic) that I just picked up - seems the right height for me, was going to do 4 inches but then it wouldn't fit in my garage! Compared to the Taco's on Toyota dealers lots here with $10-15k market adjustments I'm in the Pro 4x (Which unfortunately I still had to pay a $5k above MSRP market adjustment) for almost $20k USD less than the Taco... that's a lot of upgrades.
@scottwells6136 Жыл бұрын
@@Falinzin This is exactly the info I was hoping to see. I know the video compared stock models, but it does seem like a Pro 4x with a lift kit and a shock upgrade, if it could be done for the difference in price to a TRD Pro, would be a great vehicle.
@nismomike31822 жыл бұрын
I can upgrade suspension, bumpers, and tires. Powertrain on the other hand, not so much.
@francislegayada17832 жыл бұрын
Totally right, the Frontier because it has the better powertrain and in my opinion has a better interior and better looks, the frontier can do anything the tacoma does offroad just maybe with a little drama and it is like the better tacoma just not as good offroad in some situations but you can fix those little offroad issues
@Falinzin2 жыл бұрын
@@francislegayada1783 A 2-3" lift and some bigger tires for the Frontier solve all of it's problems too... that's maybe $3-4k total, if you put $3-4k into the Tacos powertrain it's only going to be pushing what the Frontier is stock, and you can't solve that jerky transmission either.
@c.r.rg9529 Жыл бұрын
Still have my 1991 toy 4x4 22re 4cylinder 151k miles. Tough little truck😅
@Scouser742 жыл бұрын
Such a good video, I've been looking at getting a Tacoma, and your videos are great at showing what they can do, cheers from BC
@perrydavies3592 Жыл бұрын
full disclosure, I had to have my engine rebuilt on my 2016 tacoma at 119K miles.... yea.... The dealership told me how rare it was, even though they had several 3rd gens up on the lifts getting major repairs. I think toyota slipped in the quality control and hides major problems... took 3 months for a rebuild, over $3200 in car rental fees....
@1PokerMan Жыл бұрын
It is crazy, it is incredible that in 2023 the Tacoma does not have a rear disc brake, it is not understood
@mattklassen55192 жыл бұрын
There is a steel skid plate under the aluminum plate in the front of the Frontier
@sonmanic34082 жыл бұрын
I bought a 22 frontier pro 4x. And I love the damn thing!! My only gripe is the intelligent braking system. I believe that it's a little 'dramatic'. Thoughts?
@70DMac2 жыл бұрын
For a few dollars you can put a lift in the Nissan, upgrade the tires and get aftermarket steel front skid plate for a lot less than 10k.
@joesmithatridecorp90117 күн бұрын
It's not exactly apples to apples. but a $1000-dollar Bilstein set up with its 2 inches of lift and some Kenda Kutter R/t -for about a total of $3000 (possibly need a 1inch spacer/cheap) you not only are in front and going to stay there but you have a tough looking truck and over $5000 to put in your pocket. Tacoma is Badass no doubt and you have to put work in to pass it in the frontier- But in a sense your making $$$ and that always takes work! Nobody rocks those trucks like Truck King-I get a belly laugh sometimes watching those new trucks get it just the same way as if it was an old truck that was well used. Thank you guys - Happy Holidays
@davidt.75582 жыл бұрын
I would always choose toyota over all.
@kennethm.3803 ай бұрын
yeah, that koolaid tastes just right?
@DanielGloverTheGreat2 жыл бұрын
Just received my 2022 Frontier Pro-4X Crew Cab and did some trails with it here in Utah. Definitely more worth the money after dealer fees are incorporated into the pricing. Toyota dealers want $20,000 on top of MSRP and Nissan wanted a standard markup. Far and away more worth it to get the Frontier. Now, a year from now if the market cools down and prices become regular again, Tacoma may be the clear winner. But as the market stands, get a Frontier plus a lift and STILL save $16,500 over a Tacoma. Both are great trucks, no doubt.
@MiK3Y132 жыл бұрын
of course you would say that when you bought one. gotta justify it somehow
@toma.69424 ай бұрын
@@MiK3Y13I am looking for a New truck myself. Could buy either. But I would take the Nissan all day and I just might buy a new one next year. Had my friends 2023 Tacoma for a week and not impressed at all. While I was definitely impressed with the frontier on test drive.
@MiK3Y134 ай бұрын
@@toma.6942 sure some people will it. There’s an ass for every seat. But by large numbers it’s the best selling for a reason
@toma.69424 ай бұрын
@@MiK3Y13 I understand your point. But researching the frontier for awhile now. It has very good realibilty. I was actually very surprised
@Aceinfinity-le8zc2 ай бұрын
How did it hold up ?
@carolinawoods-n-water43922 жыл бұрын
I like the new redesigned Frontier Pro4X a lot - but I’d go for the Toyota all day long & twice on Sunday, hands down!
@dridi59645 ай бұрын
So you buy a frontier you upgrade it with a lift and better tires and you still save money and you get way superior truck than a Tacoma with fake skid plates and bad breaks
@Kusgan4x42 жыл бұрын
3" lift & Cooper MTs on my pro 4X. it does well off-road.
@alinhinthoulay63232 жыл бұрын
Same here. Lift and didn't run me any where near an extra $10k
@MiK3Y132 жыл бұрын
@@alinhinthoulay6323 ya but you know that the extra money into the 4x is now gone... the pro tacoma you can always sell for comparison to the new Price of a pro...
@erickullmann9037 Жыл бұрын
I already bought the Tacoma and was wondering if I should upgrade the tires. I am impressed with how much those stock tires can get through. I know they dont have the sidewall protection of a KO2 but the traction is impressive.
@ryanbachman38010 ай бұрын
Tacoma all the way 🤙🏻
@toma.69424 ай бұрын
Nope.
@dontderockmerizz32112 жыл бұрын
Turning radius has ALWAYS been a problem for Frontiers. Hard to believe Nissan hasn’t improved that. I have a 2011 Suzuki Equator (rebadged frontier) & the turning circle is a real pain in the a**. Especially for parking in tight lots.
@randalsweeting6612 жыл бұрын
Problem is all nissan did was put a new cab on a old fram. I would like to have seen a all new fram to match the new cab. The nissan looks awesome but its still has all the same problems that I hated on my 2017. The turn radius and open diffs. I loved my 2000 era frontier. Only thing that truck needed was more power lol. Give me that light weight nimble truck with the new 3.8 engine and 9speed.
@GeorgeSawtooth2 жыл бұрын
What kind of moron worries about a turning radius of a 4WD?
@dontderockmerizz32112 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeSawtooth um, the 2WD is the same tough guy. Do you own one? I do. It’s f’n aggravating.
@GeorgeSawtooth2 жыл бұрын
@@dontderockmerizz3211 Yeah I am a tough guy and could probably kick anyone's ass in a street fight and I don't care what a turning radius is on a truck. Buy a Prius.
@c0ldyloxproductions3242 жыл бұрын
@@randalsweeting661 open diffs? They are limited slip diffs not open, the old first gen was open diffs
@frustratedalien6662 жыл бұрын
I agree the crawl control system makes a lot of noise and isn't the smoothest, but it gets the job done, so I don't see the problem with it. You can reach up and increase its speed with the knobs a bit and it won't do this lurching. The lowest setting is useful only when you really need to be that slow. If you look at the Ford Ranger (at least the 2020 and 2021 model years), the crawl control doesn't go down to this speed. Personally, I don't care as long as it works.
@antonio78152 жыл бұрын
Great vid man
@elaw19952 жыл бұрын
Another great comparison video … thanks! BTW the Tacoma’s skid plate is also aluminum
@g70030412 жыл бұрын
Love your review... best duo.
@daniDEE_tv2 жыл бұрын
Great scenary. post cordinates for trails and maps if possible later videos for local people to have a chance take the same course to "feel" the vibe if yah know i mean. awsome
@fishing_with_chaz2 жыл бұрын
Hands down between the creature comforts inside and the bang for the buck I'm all in for the Nissan frontier it's cheaper and you can do a lot of upgrades for 10 grand price difference plus the 9 speed keeps the frontier from searching for a gear when pulling hills and the bed isn't lined with plastic it's a steel bed that you can have line x sprayed in.
@GarryMurray-i1y Жыл бұрын
Great video. After test driving both as a daily driver , I’m going Frontier. Better power band and transmission as well as better fuel economy, which I tested. Both make reliable trucks but for bang for the buck and overall ergonomics and long term use. I think the Frontier is a tad better. Nissan doesn’t get enough credit for their motors. The 5.6 as well as the former 4.0 litre are Bulletproof. Always like the appearance of the TRD Pro but just not behind the wheel as much.
@scott82382 жыл бұрын
For this test to be fair you would compare the Pro4x vs the normal TRD but since you didn't just add the nismo 2 inch lift and then this would be an even match up with 8k still in your pocket with a much better power train and overall better truck being the the Nissan hands down.
@@Doomzdayxx Tacoma doesn't offer a fully boxed titan half ton frame. Check mate.
@Doomzdayxx2 жыл бұрын
@@scott8238 we're talking small trucks, not half ton. Sorry, no checkmate. In your defense though, Nissan still offers a naturally aspirated V8, which might last as long or maybe longer than the shitty tt v6 in the tundra.
@rrrrrrtt12 жыл бұрын
just interesting watching your stories about stuff other than the trucks! :) Truck stuff cool too.
@gregmve6gcm2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you on the locker only being available in 4 low. My 20 Ram 1500 with the offroad package can be locked in any mode including 2 wd. Something Toyota needs to address.
@abielcantu96292 жыл бұрын
Locker or no Locker, Toyota buyers will be loyal to the brand due to it’s reliability better re-sale value things that unfortunately Dodge does not currently offer.
@rondail56752 жыл бұрын
I pick the Nissan Frontier PRO-4X for 2022. All bets off when the new Tacoma, Ranger, and GM-Twins are released.
@derekberry13992 жыл бұрын
Yeah good thing they got a head start. Can't wait to see how the new Colorado is.
@randomuser3555 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2023 Pro-4X. First of all, yes I wanted a Taco-Pro. The price difference was huge. In Texas we didn't suffer as much from the whole dealer "market adjustment" scams so you could get decent deals on trucks. I replaced my 2002 Silverado 4X4 5.3 Vortec. The old girl has 235K miles and now my son drives it. The Pro-4X was much cheaper with way more options. I love my little truck, but...that beautiful front end design on the Taco is just magnificent IMO. Just not worth the extra funds for a weaker drive train. Also the fully enclosed box frame and armor work on my Nissan is top notch! But damn the old Taco is sexy! But honestly, those Fox Shocks while not as good on the road are great off road! However my Nissan does handle way better on pavement. Give and Take situation I guess. I also don't have to worry about salted roads, so spray some WD-40 on the underside and good to go man!
@netcruzer2 жыл бұрын
The king cab long box Pro-4X doesn't get the fender flares? Interesting omission compared to the crew cab.
@getlosttoday40452 жыл бұрын
happy Father's day TK!
@Jay-us8ko2 жыл бұрын
I like how these trucks get through the water I live in Orlando this year we have real bad hurricanes I saw a small car trying to get through the water they started smoking I was seeing the big trucks go through the water with no problem
@poltergeist3194Ай бұрын
Canada is so lucky, in that you get the Pro-4X in a King cab offering. In the states we can only get a Pro-4X in a Crew Cab.
@pcasso872 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if we can see the spare tire space as well to see if it can fit a bigger tire.
@ChadHargis5 ай бұрын
Save $10k and put $5k worth of aftermarket protection and suspension on the Frontier and use the other $5k for gas. :)
@trail-wolf4x42 жыл бұрын
While I really love the redesign of the Frontier, having test driven an SV, it still feels like it's a bit overpriced and over hyped
@francislegayada17832 жыл бұрын
I think the Frontier is actually underrated because when it first came out, people were excited for a little bit but after a couple of weeks the hype went down, when the tacoma came out in 2016 it was super hyped up and i think over hyped because the hype of the tacoma is pretty much still there and I would choose the Frontier because it has the better powertrain and in my opinion has a better interior and better looks, the frontier can do anything the tacoma does offroad just maybe with a little drama and it is like the better tacoma just not as good offroad in some situations
@johnnyreb93982 жыл бұрын
What's the great price on that Toyota running now, $100,000?
@TheConservativesrock2 жыл бұрын
I have a 21 with the same powertrain as 22, but the old body and interior. Powertrain is excellent on the road. Turn radius is atrocious
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN2 жыл бұрын
@@TheConservativesrock the Chrysler pt cruiser and 2nd gen Frontiers have the worst turning radius of any vehicle I've driven...and I deal cars for a living..
@jesseriley76812 жыл бұрын
It’d be cool 😎 if Toyota would let you get the tundra running 🏃♀️ gear ⚙️ in the taco 🌮
@gongsu2 жыл бұрын
After seeing the Nissan perform, and the price of the Tacoma. I'm even more torn between the Colorado or ranger lol
@dennissmith72142 жыл бұрын
Colorado for sure! 😁
@mattlee48072 жыл бұрын
I’m biased, but the Ranger Tremor is a beast.
@axeamaniac44902 жыл бұрын
You could take that 10k difference and put it into the Nissan and add tires and suspension giving it more clearence and offroad capabilities.
@MiK3Y132 жыл бұрын
Sure but then it'll break down and all that 10000 is thrown away, plus if you buy the Pro Tacoma the 10000 grand increase in price always has resale value.. meaning when you trade it in its worth more, win win! Upgrades dont mean its worth more.. just throwing pointless money into a vehicle.
@chocolatemagneto96792 жыл бұрын
@@MiK3Y13 The frontier reliability is on par with the Tacoma. Never heard anything bad about it
@jesseriley76812 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Nissan definitely has better under body protection than the taco 🌮 does
@northerntoyota75842 жыл бұрын
Look at the Nissan’s front diff, exposed. The 1/4 aluminum skid on the Tacoma protects what you’re most likely to hit a lot better than the thin tin plates on the Nissan
@ALMX5DP2 жыл бұрын
@@northerntoyota7584 both look pretty darn good for OEM offerings. The Nissans diff is exposed but looks like it’s tucked up a good deal and adjacent to the center skid plate.
@jg82632 жыл бұрын
@@northerntoyota7584 Yeah, but if you are making contact mid vehicle, then kiss the Taco's exhaust goodbye. The Frontier definitely packaged the exhaust away better.
@joma133442 жыл бұрын
@@northerntoyota7584 The frame on the frontier also does a better job of protecting things. The transfer case sticks down a bit on the tacoma.
@zeak6172 жыл бұрын
Great content. Thanks for the video.
@seaneastman63233 ай бұрын
We all wanna see the new taco compared to the new nissan 2024 please. Great videos
@marksullivan82002 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the nismo upgraded billstien shocks / leveling upgrade on the frontier against the much more expensive tacoma
@baileymccormick74742 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve I’d love to see you guys bring the ranger tremor out to the off road park.
@mattlee48072 жыл бұрын
Yes! I think it would be a great comparison video with the Taco.
@bullitt7432 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! I have a a TRD with crawl control and it works great! it makes noise for certain, however i use it when i need it. Its rare that i use it, in fact i can't remember ever like cruising with it on a little muddy road. I use it to get out of being stuck and very slow technical situations. Nissan Shock mounts are higher than the rear diff at least you don't need to put a spare tire kit in the Bed where your gear/load is to be placed.
@alexgarcia39002 жыл бұрын
The nissan frontier doesn't compete with the trd pro though. It be better to compare it to the trd off road access cab. That is it's direct competitor, it even has the same shocks.
@dalephillips82502 жыл бұрын
Tacoma is better off road but I'd put my money on the Nissan because I don't go offroad but 10% at most. Also I could add larger tires later for clearance and still be well under the price of the TRD PRO Tacoma.
@perrydavies3592 Жыл бұрын
I guess for 10K you could definitely lift the frontier and have the clearance, and upgrade the skid plates, and have gas money for a half year.
@gabemord5088 Жыл бұрын
I know right. Won't cost anywhere near 10k for a lift 😂
@deejayimm2 жыл бұрын
Never understood any reasoning behind plastic skid plates other than just being able to put "skid plates" on the sticker and charge more. Also, we here in Indiana would like to thank you for all that fine Canadian soil we have here, thanks to those glaciers.. lol
@HAHA.GoodMeme2 жыл бұрын
The TRD off-road model has no hoodscoop and is the one to get. exhaust reroute and flat mid skid is a must if you're going to be doing serious wheeling in your taco. The clearance on my taco shocks me every time i go out. crawl control is a gimmick on every brand.
@terrynichol5772 жыл бұрын
Gimmick? Are you that uneducated?
@smcjefe11 ай бұрын
6:21 given the price difference a more fair comparison would of been a TRD off road vs a Pro X4
@SeanStewart882 жыл бұрын
Both solid trucks. I currently own a TRD off road. I also had an older frontier I traded in but over you can’t go wrong in either. I do give the off-road win to the Tacoma though.
@jl67572 жыл бұрын
Is Ironwood Hydroline a trail or your property? this channel is sick!
@TruckKing2 жыл бұрын
That's our own property. But, there are lots of free trails in Ontario
@axellness2 жыл бұрын
Nissan hands down. Taco feels sluggish and it's old af. Frontier is also more comfortable.
@WhosthatTeamAFC Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Trd off road edges out frontier in off-road capabilities but on-road driving is night & day between the two. Had my heart set on a Tacoma but ended up with the frontier after test driving. (2023 models btw)
@PardyN2 Жыл бұрын
Wait this was filmed in northern Ontario?
@TruckKing Жыл бұрын
certainly was
@Doomzdayxx2 жыл бұрын
That extra $8k for the Tacoma will be totally worth it once you start getting up into the 200k+ miles territory. Trust me on this.
@MiK3Y132 жыл бұрын
Dont need to trust you,, just go look on used vehicle sites, hahaha people know how it is..
@Doomzdayxx2 жыл бұрын
@@MiK3Y13 after buying my used '00 Camry, I have been a faithful toyota fanboy. That car (which I still have) has treated me well. so I was probably going to go with the tacoma anyway
@Ashoud_Anobetah Жыл бұрын
Yeah for those who want a camry engine
@Doomzdayxx Жыл бұрын
@@Ashoud_Anobetah It's a small truck. Doesn't need a HD pickup truck powertrain. It's like whining about a Prius not having a twin turbo V8. Dumb. The sales numbers don't lie. rangers, and colorados might have better performance, but they are cheaply built dumpster fires.
@Linknelson2 жыл бұрын
Nissan has done the steel skid plate at least since 2019, because my truck has one as well for PRO4x
@claudiodelcastillo8933 ай бұрын
With 10,000 I can afford a 2.5in leveling kit and a few more goodies.