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True Detective - An Answer to Pessimism

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Max Derrat

Max Derrat

Күн бұрын

I loved True Detective... especially the character of Rust Cohle. I can't remember the last time I was so fascinated by a person's inner suffering than when I watched Colonel Kurtz in Apocalypse Now. The only thing that I don't really like is how some people hold up Rust as a justification of pessimist philosophy... because the show actually repudiates this philosophy (especially at the end). Not only that, the pessimist philosophy that Rust espouses ignores important details!
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@raioh4747
@raioh4747 2 жыл бұрын
I always fall into the trap of pessimism, but the dangerous thing about pessimism is it's involvement with the ego, we get attached to the pessimism, we create our identities around it, the famous doomers, and thats why we don't tend to like it when characters like Rust break free from it, misery loves company and our ego wants that character to keep "feeding" into our bias This is very, very dangerous, it leaves you in a place of pure assumptions, thinking we know how the world works even tho we are just hairless apes. I too have experienced moments of transcendence that I can't explain, and the only reason Im alive today was because of such moments. We don't know shit about life, and that knowledge is very uplifting
@ChildofYAH_
@ChildofYAH_ 2 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself, I'm not an hairless ape. Maybe you always fall into the trap of pessimism because you fail to understand that Jesus is the way and The Life. Tell me, what moments of transcendence do you speak of?
@RobertJohnson_Zeppo
@RobertJohnson_Zeppo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChildofYAH_ They are often referred to as epiphanies, but I suspect it's actually the subconscious mind rewiring the conscious mind when the current state of the conscious mind becomes incompatible with the individual's continued existence. Examples are common among people with chemical dependencies, people in midlife, etc... Nietzsche's metamorphosis' of the human spirit touches on it as well. None of us are the same person we were five minutes ago, but these transcendent experiences are immediate and dramatic.
@joshc643
@joshc643 2 жыл бұрын
I think so many of us have had experiences we can't explain. I wonder if there is a good website that people can share and read these experiences. I think it's easy to speculate that something similar to this would devolve into a majority of lies. Perhaps it's just better to ask this question to those you meet, maybe in a party setting or just close friends. That way you would be more likely to hear the truth. I've just always been curious if anyone has had similar experiences to mine.
@raioh4747
@raioh4747 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshc643 that is how I have been going about this subject, talking to people I know personally, because I really cant trust anyone on the internet. The online communities I have come across on this topic really turned me off. This is also why I wont go into details on what I have experienced, I dont think this is the place for it. I'll say one thing tho, it is astounding the number of people that Ive talked to that also had weird unexplainable phenomenon happen to them, once you start talking about your own situations they feel more relaxed to share their experiences as well.
@raioh4747
@raioh4747 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshc643 the one guy I can recommend listening to tho is Allan Watts
@user-uq4gr5nl5o
@user-uq4gr5nl5o 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's also important to mention that the final vision Rust experiences is not the only thing that makes him change his perspective. His near death experience while he was in a coma is what causes him to break down while talking to Marty outside the hospital. The experience of feeling the presence of his daughter and his father in the dark seemed to have a profound impact on him.
@Puppy_Puppington
@Puppy_Puppington Жыл бұрын
It hit really hard. Such great writing & acting.
@whitewolf55673
@whitewolf55673 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I'd say that's what mainly attributed to his change of perspective.
@joeking6972
@joeking6972 Жыл бұрын
The fact that some people leave out this obvious detail in order to justify their edgy teenager pessimism is peak comedy.
@vin8754
@vin8754 10 ай бұрын
​@@joeking6972yeah, I don't know how people can look at Rust and his beliefs and somehow feel it justifies their own negative atheistic views. What he says might sound cool and smart, but the reality is that Rusts beliefs have forced him into a life of loneliness and pain
@jaylandeis2859
@jaylandeis2859 9 ай бұрын
​@joeking6972 F** off, man. Pessimism is neither puerile nor misguided - it clearly just must not be your philosophical bent. I truly am happy that it is not - but I resent your characterization of those who do ascribe to that end of the spectrum. In fact, to even be able to make such a statement - I posit that you may not fully understand that upon which you comment. ...It's a bit more than tragic circumstances, bad days, and a poor outlook... Unless I misunderstood what you were trying to say (in which case, I apologize), but there exists many more contributing factors than 'immaturity'.
@00HoODBoy
@00HoODBoy 2 жыл бұрын
my favourite season of any tv show and rust is the main reason why. the writing is just great to me and watching this character felt like nothing ive exeprienced before. appreciate the video
@kdizzle901
@kdizzle901 5 ай бұрын
His monologues are masterful
@creemoon9546
@creemoon9546 24 күн бұрын
time is the speed ypu can move thru life
@memegazer
@memegazer 7 күн бұрын
Same, best tv show season for sure but my favorite show with all seasons is breaking bad
@victrolaface
@victrolaface 2 жыл бұрын
His character was largely inspired by Thomas Ligotti and Peter Zappfe moreso than Nietzche. I'd be interested in your opinion and refutation of Ligotti's "conspiracy against the human race" and Zappfe's essay "The Last Messiah". Though I wouldn't read them if you're depressed.
@yainaya_
@yainaya_ 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the most challenging and disturbing literary works written by humankind to date.
@playthechanges
@playthechanges 2 жыл бұрын
Read them depressed or not. Liberation is not found in sappy optimism but embracing hard to digest truths.
@highlonesomed
@highlonesomed 2 жыл бұрын
@@playthechanges I read Conspiracy and after all I could think was "peak gen x atheism". But then again I'm like extreme vitalist. I'm practically an animist. Its still worth reading imo, just yeah. If you fall in deep I imagine it can be hard to crawl back out.
@Eascen
@Eascen 2 жыл бұрын
I've been depressed my entire life, reading this book helped me understand why and successfully find my way out.
@Birmanncat
@Birmanncat 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eascen I think it works if you are depressed but strongly agains suicide. Otherwise thats not a book I'd recommend to anyone.
@image30p
@image30p 2 жыл бұрын
"It means I'm bad at parties." "Let me tell you. You ain't great outside of parties either." Lol! I took it to mean that Rust appears to Marty as a pessimist. But at the beginning of his character arc Rust sees himself only as having recognized and accepted the situation. He's trying to deal with it using his enormously powerful intellect through philosophy and science. He said he contemplates the moment in the garden (the cost of sentience). And "allowing" his own crucifixion. At the start of the series he perceives himself as the most powerful determining force in his life, while also being at the mercy of animal instinct. Both in others and himself. I identified closely with Rust's feelings. Being intelligent can be very lonely. No one seems to understand what you're saying. I appreciate your video. And I agree. It takes a lot of strength, courage and intellect to go beyond what is obvious and find what makes life valuable. Part of that is finally discovering that you aren't alone.
@Yellow.1844
@Yellow.1844 2 жыл бұрын
You could find people into these subjects (philosophy, science, history, etc) in universities and stuff, theyre young but with time they can get interesting or know interesting people lot harder in everyday life if youre not in that field or live in a small town tho
@dankswag7860
@dankswag7860 2 жыл бұрын
Max - "I am privileged to have a community of regular viewers who are smart." Me - "pee pee poo poo"
@Grey_Ape
@Grey_Ape 2 жыл бұрын
Noice
@islandboy9381
@islandboy9381 2 жыл бұрын
"Pee pee is poo poo and poo poo is pee pee" - Socrates
@paulfrantizek102
@paulfrantizek102 Жыл бұрын
That introduction was cringeworthy.
@pfftwhut7638
@pfftwhut7638 11 ай бұрын
"pee is stored in the balls"
@Kabodanki
@Kabodanki 9 ай бұрын
I really don't agree with pee pee poo poo it's pee poo pee poo
@musicfilmhead9051
@musicfilmhead9051 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard that some of the dialog from the show (haven't seen it myself) is literally verbatim from the novel titled "conspiracy against the human race" by Thomas ligotti. Excellent philosophical novel, but dark as hell of course. The author constantly brings up Schopenhauer. Great video as usual my man.
@tjenadonn6158
@tjenadonn6158 2 жыл бұрын
TCATHR isn't really a novel so much as it is a philosophical treatise, basically a crash-course in philosophical pessimism, existential nihilism, and antinatalism. While the author Thomas Ligotti is primarily known for his horror fiction it's all inextricably based in a firm philosophical grounding, and Conspiracy is him methodically and thoroughly laying out this philosophy. While there are perhaps better argued cases to be found for certain elements of it (David Benatar's Better Never To Have Been has gained a reputation as an approachable and well-reasoned introduction to antinatalism in much the same way that Richard Dawkins' works like The Selfish Gene and The Greatest Show On Earth are to evolutionary biology) TCATHR is definitely a must read for anyone who truly values the journey of philosophical inquiry, no matter what questions might arise or what the answers to those questions might be.
@bigo0723
@bigo0723 Жыл бұрын
@@tjenadonn6158 I definitely didn’t agree with the work in the end, but I would agree as the creator of True Detective said, something along the lines of “you should read it and the works to really challenge and understand your beliefs” I ended up strongly disagreeing it it really forced me to think and go into a mode of “I have to take this seriously” and I honestly thank the works in some dark way for forcing me to confront the questions about life.😊
@jasonblundelldobebussing
@jasonblundelldobebussing 2 жыл бұрын
Nietzsche do be rolling down in the deep. When his brain goes numb, he calls that mental freeze. When the people talk to much, he puts that shait in slow motion. Nietzsche feels like an astronaut in the ocean.
@antontabliashvili5226
@antontabliashvili5226 Жыл бұрын
I rolling man🤣🤣
@pfftwhut7638
@pfftwhut7638 11 ай бұрын
If only rap was even a quarter as good...
@Smokeyxz
@Smokeyxz 11 ай бұрын
Bars! Hey dj, spin that shit!
@bajovato
@bajovato 11 ай бұрын
I actually heard Rust Cohle’s voice narrating that comment in my head. Lol.
@ubermikesocal
@ubermikesocal 10 ай бұрын
@@bajovato that's because Nietzsche was the Michael Jordan of being a son of a btc h
@voXYoung
@voXYoung 2 жыл бұрын
Pathologic ost goes well with anything existential lol. I still hold this season among the best things I've seen tv show wise, along with Mindhunter and Fringe due to their explorative and pondering nature to varying extents. Rust really changed my worldview to basically the same thing, I'm ofc fortunate to never have lost someone to a tragic circumstance, but the portrayal was raw enough to make it an experience of my own, that's why I love cinema and tv that are done with such maticulous attention to everything to elevate the material as borderline reality to learn from. Same goes for games, but sure they are on a different level due to reasons. Great video, as always. Btw, the new movie (at the moment of writing this comment) "Don't look up" made me think a lot aswell recently, idk just felt like recommending it here.
@rottensquid
@rottensquid 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to talk about the philosophy of True Detective, and in particular, the philosophy of Rust. But because the show is a story rather than a treatise, any discussion of Rust's philosophy or his transformation is incomplete if we only examine it from the standpoint of his conscious beliefs. The philosophy discussed in the show is merely a manifestation of the Rust's grief. What he consciously believes, or professes to believe, is just his reaction to his unsettled soul. I would describe it as the manifestation of his conflict with the universe. See, Rust hates the whole universe because of what it has taken away from him. It's left him alone and unsettled. And this conflict has made him unable to move forward and find something new. He tries to pick up the pieces of his life and start again, but because he can't let go of his resentment of the universe for taking away the relationships that mattered the most to him, he can't settle into a new one. His notion of time as a flat circle describes his rage against fate for putting him through unbearable suffering. We call it philosophy, but for Rust, it's his trauma, repeating in his mind on an endless loop from which he can't escape. His belief that human consciousness is a mistake is his reaction to his own consciousness unable to let go of his trauma and move on. So what changes at the end? I think the hallucination moment is so arresting for him not because he believes it's "real," but because he is recognizing a profound moment when the real world and his personal inner world reflect one another. His own personal darkness is reflected onto this horrible, inbred serial murderer. His inner struggle with life's cruelty can be symbolically solved by killing the hell out of this guy, or dying at the guy's hands. It's his moment of surrender, when he accepts that his fate is out of his hands, and he's at peace with that. Luckily, Captain Unconscious comes to his aid, and helps him defeat the monster and survive. But of course, it takes one overthinker and one slow thinker, operating on instinct, to do the job. But it was the surrender that releases him from his unsettled state. He allows himself to stop struggling against cruel fate and accept life, death, and whatever else there may or may not be beyond both. But the important thing is that this wasn't an intellectual conclusion stemming from logical philosophical debate within him. It was a feeling, an epiphany that philosophical logic could never provide. That's why I think story always has more to say about the human experience than philosophy ever will. Philosophy is great, but story picks up where it must leave off, using the immeasurable tool of subtext to describe the indescribable. But what do I know? I'm not a philosophy major, or even particularly well read on the matter. The only philosophical text I know well is Plato's Symposium. But here's the thing. That's actually a story. It tells of a group of the greatest and wisest men in Athens trying to understand what "Love" means. And the thing is, they're all full of shit. Some describe not love, but their own vanity. Some describe their loneliness and feelings of incompleteness. One shows up late, and hammered, furious and miserable because he can't screw or kill his way to love, and therefore, enlightenment. Only Socrates says "I know nothing. But I met this priestess once. I know she was only a woman, but here's the stuff she had to say on the subject, and I've never been able to forget it..." He surrenders to the mystery, rather than claiming to understand. So the core truth of the poem wasn't in what the characters said, but in what their philosophies said about them. I think that's the magic of True Detective. What it's getting at isn't either an agreement or refutation of Rust's philosophies. Rather, it transcends them, not through answers, but through surrendering to the mystery of the universe. That's my kind of TV.
@CYI3ERPUNK
@CYI3ERPUNK 2 жыл бұрын
well said good sir =]
@invasoria
@invasoria 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@VvendigO.
@VvendigO. Жыл бұрын
...yup and that's my kind of commentary:) You're a very wise man, Mr. Ted. I'm always so glad to discover something so interesting like your point of view here. So thank you very much for your great insight. True Detective is forever KING 👑
@crownedclown49
@crownedclown49 8 ай бұрын
Beautifully put
@GreasyGranny08
@GreasyGranny08 7 ай бұрын
Ain’t reading allat
@Shishakind86
@Shishakind86 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is one of few places in my life where I don't feel being alone with my reflections, sufferings in the past, etc. which are disregarded or at least not understood within current society. My "path" if you want to put it that way went from immense suffering, transcendental experience and interest in existential and Eastern philosophies to where I am now. And it's true, I'm better now than I'd otherwise ever could have been. Suffering is necessary and at the core of our being. One can actually consider him/herself lucky to have such insight and reflective capabilities even when (or especially because) it comes with a lot of suffering, because a lot of humans don't and are truly caught in their repetitive patterns. Thanks for your channel. It reminds me that I'm not alone in all of this.
@jacobbelow4136
@jacobbelow4136 2 жыл бұрын
As you have mentioned once previously on the channel, Max, one of humanity’s most admirable/defining attributes is our ability to within our limitations (while of course, always trying to pushing them a little bit at a time, as it helps make us stronger and wiser day-by-day).
@matthewharper7333
@matthewharper7333 3 ай бұрын
The tricky thing about Nietzche is that is was a strict determinist and that means that one doesn't really control their thoughts, but merely experiences them. So, he isn't giving advice, but rather writing down what there is. "the nutcracker of the soul" and "It isn't who I am?- but when I am and why do I suffer?" The Eternal Reoccurance is a little play on the onotogolical argument that if there is infinity- then everything is to repeat exactally in the same way, over and over and over. However this doesn't mean the same person will repeat, but there are many copies of ourselves living out the same fate. In short, the universe only offers what you get. Nietzche hated Buddhism calling it a life killer. This was more about his moralistic theories, that basically if the universe is meaningless and all will be wash away, you should do great things out of sheer spite of it all. (My interpretation and take it for what it is worth) However, this is again, Nietzche recording his own passions. Other fun quotes: "The last Christian died on the cross" and "Thoughts of sucided gets one through many a dark night." Nietzche was also a great fan of Spinoza, which he didn't read until having formulated much of his own stuff. Good stuff though; I'm not trying to pick apart what you've said.
@CrispySenpai
@CrispySenpai 9 ай бұрын
I think the best example of time being a flat circle is when Rust mentions how the children will be in that truck again and again and again, so I think not so much scientific as acknowledging human psychology and the human shadow. I also think he does not commit suicide because of a sense of duty, to be a bad man who keeps other bad men away. Because if he doesn’t do his duty, there would only be more suffering. But I think a significant part of his transformation is the love of his daughter he felt near death.
@Yellow.1844
@Yellow.1844 4 ай бұрын
Ye it has nothing to do with science idk wt f hes talking about
@Fredable
@Fredable 2 жыл бұрын
Super glad you did a video on rust covering more of the lovecraftian aspects which people leave out sometimes. I'm also in a deep pit of pesssimism, its a existential scienfitic flavour of pessimism and it lives in my head rent free. Have yet to see something trancendednt that isn't a horror, just casually almost existing
@TempehLiberation
@TempehLiberation 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting because Schopenhauer actually helped me with my depression. In particular his writing on the "Indestructibility of our True Nature" in The Suffering of the World. Great analysis and interesting perspective, makes me want to rewatch the show lol. Also in regards to your last point about darkness, it made me think of this by T.S. Eliot (hopefully I don't butcher it): “I said to my soul, be still, and let the dark come upon you Which shall be the darkness of God.” ― T.S. Eliot, Four Quartets
@TempehLiberation
@TempehLiberation 2 жыл бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 Yep yep 🙂
@TempehLiberation
@TempehLiberation 2 жыл бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 at the moment I pretty much fall in line with Schopenhauer so Idealist (dual aspect monist). Ethically I'd classify myself as a negative utilitarian. What about yourself?
@TempehLiberation
@TempehLiberation 2 жыл бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 I'll be honest I haven't heard of transcendental materialism I'm going to have to give it a look. I was briefly looking into transcendental nihilism (like from Ray Brassier) but haven't really pursued it lately since I got a bunch of buddhist books recently.
@Erl0sung
@Erl0sung Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! It drives me crazy that the image of such men is "read these authors if you want to feel like k*lling yourself!". Schopenhauer was a genius, and reading him always gives me fresh air. Same with Mainländer, who gets a lot of rubbish, even from people that try to make him more famous. Google him to to get a glimpse of the vileness thrown around his figure. Completely opposite to what he believed his philosophy achieved, to save the individual from the tyranny of pantheism and the absurdity of non-determinism.
@BahnGradWeg
@BahnGradWeg 2 жыл бұрын
For me, this is one of your best videos ever. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you.
@fadams32
@fadams32 10 ай бұрын
i hadn’t had you pop up in feed in a year or two and the fact the first time i see a video of yours it’s about my all time favorite media behind mgs is very intriguing and i can not wait to watch this video
@richardmaccarthy101
@richardmaccarthy101 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff max! Your lurking nietsche scholar, checking in... First, just wanna say you did a very good job of interpreting Nietzsche - the man's writings are so nebulous you can straight-up be unlucky and get a prof. who doesn't know that their interpretation is, shall we say, a bit wonky ... Good job! Regardless of whether it is literally real or not, Eternal return is what Nietzsche says we should want, if we could choose it, despite all the negatives that come with life. In a way, Rust is the perfect candidate for Nietzsche; if this man can someone manage to come to terms with life, he will, effectively, have transcended the negatives (becoming the superhuman / overhuman). The ending of Rust's story ("the way I see it, the light's winning") is, I think, the beginning of Rust's journey to that unseen point of "overcoming" life. How we do that (e.g. how do we overcome the fact that nihilism is real and that life is suffering) is Nietzsche's great challenge to us (and his life's work). Incidentally, this is why I hate the whole "Nietzsche was a nihilist" thing. Nietzsche, in his mind, solved nihilism! He is the the most aspirational philosopher of all! I'll stop now. Thanks max!
@richardmaccarthy101
@richardmaccarthy101 2 жыл бұрын
@@youssefbarj9770 for Nietzsche, God really is dead though! The important thing is that he then asks "what do we do about that depressing reality?" rather than just pointing out that reality is depressing/meaningless. Which is to say, I agree, when people forget the second (much more important, inspirational) part of Nietzsche, it can get a little weird!
@rohankishibe6433
@rohankishibe6433 2 жыл бұрын
@@youssefbarj9770 There are 2 types of atheists. The ones that are atheist because science provides more answers than religion, and the ones that are atheist because they think it makes them look smart. also, nihilism is dumb. There is a meaning of life, and it is to survive, and everything you know assists that goal. I could go into more detail, but do you want me to?
@Dunge0n
@Dunge0n 2 жыл бұрын
On his good days, he "solved" nihilism. In his mind, he seemed to struggle against it harder the longer he lived with it; like most people cursed with hearts and brains. I understand the practicality of being one's own motivational coach, but find nothing especially transcendent in that wisdom. Like DH Lawrence, I no longer find much solace in aspiring to idealized humanity. True peace only seems to come when I dream of 'transcending' it in some way. Either through attaining a natural, primal or higher vibrational state or some transhumanist existence. Too much of modern man is a false mask, one I have no wish to keep wearing and repairing forever.
@Alex-hu5eg
@Alex-hu5eg 2 жыл бұрын
You're right, Nietzsche wasn't a nihilist, the whole concept of the übermensch is an attempt, an antidote to overcome nihilism. (after the "death of God") I admired Nietzsche in my 20's, but he clearly failed to overcome nihilism and paid a terrible price after he realized how wrong he was. (went insane and die)
@Alex-hu5eg
@Alex-hu5eg 2 жыл бұрын
@@youssefbarj9770 Nietzsche is dead God
@christopherlowery3797
@christopherlowery3797 2 жыл бұрын
It was awesome running into you on Oni’s stream! I’m so glad I came across your video on MGS2, it spawned my obsession with all things Kojima. This series is another favorite of mine, & your take on it is fantastic as always. I try to be optimistic, but have a bit of cynicism underlying everything that makes it difficult sometimes, so seeing you confront one of the most cynical characters in popular media is relieving in ways that are hard to explain. Keep up the good work, my dude!
@kdizzle901
@kdizzle901 5 ай бұрын
Behind every pessimist is a disappointed optimist
@thesloresby5128
@thesloresby5128 2 жыл бұрын
Your comments at the beginning of the video are appreciated. Max can make commentary on anything without coming across as holier than thou, elitist, or correct in his own thinking. This is a very difficult thing more and more these days.
@TheOrangex88
@TheOrangex88 2 жыл бұрын
“If the only thing that is keeping a person decent is the expectation of Divine Reward, then brother that person is a piece of shit” My favorite quote from Rust
@johnj8514
@johnj8514 Жыл бұрын
That reminds me of our legal system. Most people don't rob and kill for fear of the consequences, NOT because it's wrong.
@Jacksparrow-qt8hf
@Jacksparrow-qt8hf Жыл бұрын
@@johnj8514 Reminds me of Joker "When the chips are down , these civilised people will eat each other"
@willldo4
@willldo4 11 ай бұрын
Most people aren't decent. You never know what someone is doing behind closed doors. Who they are running around with in their free time. What activities they are doing. Unless, you are watching them on a regular basis. And who has time to do that? Unless you're a cop.
@Jacksparrow-qt8hf
@Jacksparrow-qt8hf 11 ай бұрын
@@willldo4 probably , that's why people are so cunning , and show their real intentions on social media , they think they get "anonymity" on social media.
@Jacksparrow-qt8hf
@Jacksparrow-qt8hf 11 ай бұрын
@@willldo4 consider social media as an "open mic" , but the people don't know about u . This works as a mask for them
@imacarrot6570
@imacarrot6570 11 ай бұрын
I personally don't like philosophers or shrinks as they all seem to say they know what is going on. I was an only child for 7 years. I was quiet, inquisitive & smart. I liked being alone. So I was shy growing up, which I grew out of; but I still largely prefer my own company most of the time. What annoys me is that a shrink will call who I am, at the base of me, a disorder and to be honest that gives me violent thoughts. Who are they to say? Why can't I just be me? So I don't listen to people who don't have any respect for me or who I am. So I reject philosophers and shrinks. I don't care about the books. Only my truth matters.
@Vaeren222
@Vaeren222 2 жыл бұрын
This hit me on such a deep and personal level. Your conclusion made me cry. I never cry. Thank you
@nowhereman6019
@nowhereman6019 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting thought: isn't seeking Ego Death a selfish and individualistic thing to do? The animal with no sense of self would not seek such a thing because it has no capacity to do so. However, a human with the illusion of ego still operates on that belief of self. There is no action that can be taken as a human that is totally without ego except base instinct. A being of pure base instinct cannot seek Ego Death because it has no ego. And why does the ego seek its own death? For selfish reasons of course. To end dukkha as it perceives it. To end its own suffering. The idea that serving a greater goal is a selfless act is a misunderstanding of the self. So then what really is there to say that one act or another is selfish or selfless?
@maxderrat
@maxderrat 2 жыл бұрын
It would be seen as a selfish and individualistic thing to do if one believed in the continuation of the ego-personality beyond death. If you're from an Eastern culture, or you simply believe that the ego ceases upon death, then it's not necessarily seen as selfish. It could be seen as selfish by all types of people if you fixate on it at the expense of family and well-being, but if it's just a spiritual pursuit (like all Buddhists, Hindus, etc.), then I think it's fine.
@nowhereman6019
@nowhereman6019 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxderrat I understand that, but what I'm trying to get at is that the source of any desire or act is inherently selfish because of the nature of a human. Ideas of good and evil are derived from instinct and interaction with the world, which can only be done through individual interactions with the world. The basic programming of humanity is where we derive our responses, not one instilled into us by a higher truth (as far as an empirical analysis of humanity goes). And so even if such things as reincarnation are real, we aren't acting selflessly to save our future reincarnations for a greater good's sake, but because *we* believe that it would be better to end that cycle of suffering, and *we* would feel good that we are doing a perceived good.
@skittleripple
@skittleripple 2 жыл бұрын
@@nowhereman6019 I think when all actions are selfish, no actions are selfish. Deeper behind the idea of selflessness and selfishness are the mind’s intentions and justifications. A person who donates to charity, donates because it feels good to do. There is a happiness inside you when you provide support to the impoverished. There are also great tax-return benefits! 😊 👍 So, it may be that all people are internally selfish, but to diminish actions that put your material wealth below the needs of others is equally myopic. You know when you are donating to charity, that you are helping other people out at the expense of your immediate wealth, there’s a value in that understanding. Just because you also feel emotionally happy doesn’t reduce that value. The intention is still fair or positive. Using selflessness to justify negative intentions is dishonest and vile, but to conflate all selfless behaviour as selfish isn’t the way to stop truly selfish people.
@uvindukulathunga3860
@uvindukulathunga3860 2 жыл бұрын
@@nowhereman6019 Its impossible by biology to undo our ego , suicide or physically stopping ego is the only way . Si when we die , the ego is dead , that not the ideal Nihlistic way . But its the only way and the best way
@uvindukulathunga3860
@uvindukulathunga3860 2 жыл бұрын
@@skittleripple Yes humans cant be not selfish , even when we do a selfless act , we partially do it to make our selves feel better .
@zuttoshow
@zuttoshow 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan of your Matrix videos. I actually took a look at the series recently on my channel and came to the same conclusion. The ending completes Rust's story arc nicely, he's supposed to be a man experiencing grief that gets lost in his nihilism but ultimately finds his way towards a better path.
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842 2 жыл бұрын
I think rust is an example of a "bitter nihilst", not an "at peace nihilst" if you will. Many people think nihilsm is a negative position when that's only the case if you approach it as such. Ironically, those who get angry and bitter over nihilsm are ironically giving meaninglessness meaning. It means something to them that the universe has no objective meaning whereas a true understanding of nihilsm frees you up and enables you to realise the lack of objective meaning to our lives isn't bad or negative or even good - it's just neutral. Great video max great timing I literally finished up season 1 around half hour ago. Stay yellow!
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842 2 жыл бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 the paradox of nihilism misunderstands nihilism as it conflates "suicidal" with "nihilistic", true understanding of nihilsm frees you up it's just an understanding that your life has no objective meaning but youre still able to have personal subjective experiences and enjoy those experiences despite them meaning nothing in the grand scheme. It's a huge misconception that to be a nihilst you have to be angry, bitter or in despair it couldn't be further from the truth. Like I said nihilsm isn't negative or positive it's neutral. Many choose to turn it into a negative and that becomes how many people view it and then you get easy to debunk things like "the paradox of nihilism." I think the point is we simultaneously know life has no objective meaning while still having a biological imperative to live.
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842 2 жыл бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 you don't know me dude, you can't make the claim "I don't care for none" based off a comment. It doesn't work like that.
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842 2 жыл бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 and you don't understand how to construct basic sentences or how to respond to specific points made you just clearly dismiss things you don't like as "you don't understand x" - not an argument. Now elaborate.
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842 2 жыл бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 I don't understand metaphysics or ontology - OK. Your subjective opinion. Now you need to prove why and provide evidence to support the claim. I'll be waiting.
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842 2 жыл бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 you can barely construct coherent sentences, so understanding you is my problem.
@cyberlingbot3d896
@cyberlingbot3d896 2 жыл бұрын
I like the part about the spiral, very interesting. I'm always blown away by practically every Max Derrat upload. 👍👍
@ThomasMayer123-f8f
@ThomasMayer123-f8f 7 ай бұрын
Life is completely meaningless. I was born with a crippling illness, that gives mwe constant pain,and you tell me life is worth living? Come under my skin and than tell me its all worth living
@macheifach
@macheifach 2 жыл бұрын
Affirmation of life is falsely perceived as heroic, while it actually isn't: it's just blind existence fanatism. People need something to hold onto, they need forcefully (hence, this video too), justify life/existence in some sort of way, so they can keep going.
@AlchemicalForge91
@AlchemicalForge91 2 жыл бұрын
SQS here on KZbin has great Gnosis videos on this fact
@uvindukulathunga3860
@uvindukulathunga3860 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah from oppsing suicide even for people with very painful illnesses to preventing animal species from extinction humans do a wast spectrum of things to justify exhistance in their own mind .
@nipolaaa
@nipolaaa 6 ай бұрын
A little note on Nietzsches view of eternal return: He did in fact believe that this could be proven scientifically, and had created a plan to study the natural sciences for 10 years as to find the scientific foundation for proving his theory. He had to give up this plan due to his growing illness and suffering. Nonetheless Nietzsche had the project of rethinking transcendence and the metaphysical, independent of the platonic-christian foundation that european philosophy was founded upon, arriving at a new, "healthy" interpretation of meaning and morality. But he didnt want to found it in metaphysical speculation, thus his growing interest in the natural sciences. So while his conception of eternal recurrence and its prophet, Zarathustra, stemmed from what he perceived to be an enlightening vision, it was not merely a device to mediate his life philosophy but something he was assured of could be proven by scientific evidence. I cant quite remember where i read about his plans, whether the Kaufman biography, the one by Safranski or Karl Jaspers excellent book on him, but from what i've read he was very serious and enthusiastic about, finally, creating a system out of his philosophy that would be free of the shackles of traditional metaphysics whilst also withstanding the scrutiny of scientific investigation. As such i think Pizzolato actually was onto something when he aligned quantum theory of time (i am not sure of the correct term for it) to Eternal Recurrence. And he discusses this alignment in one of the episode-commentaries (5 or 6)
@nipolaaa
@nipolaaa 6 ай бұрын
Another little note as ive continued further through the video: Nietzsche does not actually ask for acceptance of hardships, that would in his world view still be a nihilistic stance, but to embrace and want it. A little but significant difference. Amor fati, the -love- of fate, requires an immersion in a "tragic conception of life and suffering" as he lays out in his very first book.
@MariaElena51185
@MariaElena51185 Ай бұрын
Carlos Castaneda, in his book, Infinity says it well to me. ‘The predator gave us its mind…’ At natural death we can escape this evil place that is not our home, but instead the realm of the predator. We get recycled after every lifetime. This is a farm and we are slaves/loosh. It’s intelligent to be a pessimist here. To feel suicidal. To become a hermit. To go within and listen only to our true self. We are our own home. Our own true essence. But here in this soul trap hell we are avatars that forgot. Mind wiped. I like to think that Rust has an nde and experienced his own true essence .. his own light. His sovereignty. My purpose and meaning in life is to prepare well for death. Obe’s are good practice. So meditating is to give myself a chance, practice to escape at natural death. We know nothing until we die. trickedbythelight.com
@JoaoPedro-le8ib
@JoaoPedro-le8ib 2 жыл бұрын
There's really something ominous about human conscience, we cannot ever come to conclusions about it's true origin and nature. And to adress the deep insight of Rust's own perception of the world, made the first season of True Detective my favourite TV show ever. Also, the acting is phenomenal. 10/10 show.
@kaison12205
@kaison12205 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact rust is actually a deeply emotional character a lot of his nihilistic statements exist to try and convince himself that life has no meaning but he knows that that is not true
@Tehz1359
@Tehz1359 11 ай бұрын
Rust is definitely no Nietzschean. Nietzsche would laugh in his face and tell him to get over himself.
@Mobay18
@Mobay18 2 жыл бұрын
I had to watch this video 2 times to wrap my mind around it. Thanks!
@goliathz9l597
@goliathz9l597 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. There was a time when pessimism beat the crap out me, I didn't want to live anymore. But at the same time I knew I had a choice: to not experience other things that life could offer and accept it all as meaningless, predictable pain, and throw it all away. Or to decide for myself that my life will not be fully dictated by all of it. To hold on to, or to discover things that bring me joy and fulfillment. To appreciate the full human experience and not merely one side of it. I am so grateful that I didn't just end it all, as tempting as it can be.
@TealWolf26
@TealWolf26 2 жыл бұрын
Eternity is a yawning may containing infinite potential kindness as well as infinite potential horror. I won't pretend to have figured it all out. Far from it. All I know is I want to stick around to see more of it. Call it morbid curiosity.
@tunebeat3809
@tunebeat3809 Жыл бұрын
Life can be messed up to be honest. But that doesn't mean a person has to act like a jerk about it.
@lewislewis3531
@lewislewis3531 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Got to love interpretations of True Detective s1, it speaks to so many people on many different levels. One thing I noted was that the video doesn't address Rust mentioning feeling his daughter's love and presence as he lay dying/in the coma. This is what changes him the most, I think. And you can look at it in a few different ways. 1. It validates Rust's adopted perspective that time is a flat circle; as he nears his end, he catches sight of his past. That means, when he does eventually die, he'll get to see his daughter again and feel her overwhelming love, and that's worth enduring the darkness that will follow. 2. It is 'proof' of an existence beyond death, meaning life is worthwhile because goodness remains on the other side of darkness, so it's important to continue. 3. All of existence is just a brain's interpretation, and as he lay dying his mental walls were eroded, allowing him to chemically revive his love for his daughter. Logically, that means she still exists as long as he does, his memory keeps her alive. Giving into darkness would be the same as killing her. There are probably more interpretations too!
@wilkiebunkers1352
@wilkiebunkers1352 2 жыл бұрын
Started following your videos a couple weeks ago. Really appreciate your uploads man
@IknowIamkindagreat
@IknowIamkindagreat 2 жыл бұрын
I needed this today. This is wonderfully thought-out and put together. Kudos. Subbed.
@TheKnives777
@TheKnives777 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for pronouncing Nietzsche correctly!
@___Guilherme___
@___Guilherme___ Жыл бұрын
You don't even name the author the character's philosophy is based on. It is neither Nietzsche nor Schopenhauer. This review left a lot to be desired.
@jamiehinchliffe5091
@jamiehinchliffe5091 11 ай бұрын
Neither did you my friend? Can you please
@___Guilherme___
@___Guilherme___ 11 ай бұрын
@@jamiehinchliffe5091 Sure. Thomas Ligotti.
@fahadhussain66
@fahadhussain66 10 ай бұрын
​@@___Guilherme___love that guy. No matter what one says, Emil Cioran, Schopenhauer, Phillip Mainländer, Dostoeyvsky, Diogenes, Kierkegaard and Sartre are some philosophers who were as grounded into reality as one could be. No sugar coating with bs.
@grunthostheflatulent9649
@grunthostheflatulent9649 2 жыл бұрын
"Embrace the suck" is a modern interpretation of classic philosophy's call to face life's struggles.
@rohankishibe6433
@rohankishibe6433 2 жыл бұрын
big sad is better than big nothing.
@scotcheggable
@scotcheggable 2 жыл бұрын
Accept the suck. Go through life taking the suck in mind. And maybe, one day, it may not be quite so suck.
@Torgo1969
@Torgo1969 Жыл бұрын
"We know what we want and we don't mind being alone"
@stevecarver8341
@stevecarver8341 2 жыл бұрын
No way. I've just started watching this masterpiece again and at the same time you made this video
@keahilumho8914
@keahilumho8914 11 ай бұрын
Max your heart, mind and life’s work is so uplifting and overflowing with profound but simple wisdom. God Bless and All the Works of Your Hands my friend. Amazing every time BUT this crushed me like few others.
@bradical7772
@bradical7772 2 жыл бұрын
Always great Max! Can’t wait to rewatch this.
@kidsamsa
@kidsamsa Жыл бұрын
I really appreciated the kindness you showed towards this ideology in this video. I often fall into this state of mind and search for rebuttals, but a lot of online talk about pessimism is very aggressive and judgmental. I also find it very strange how people think Rusts near death experience was shoehorned in- characters generally experience arcs, that’s how stories work. I might be wrong, but if I remember correctly Rust only starts talking about recursion after the shootout with LeDou, who says the same “time is a flat circle” line. I think the brutality that he witnessed there started his spiral into apathy, and that returning to destroy a great evil made him reconsider. Part of him will always want to see his daughter and father in the darkness, but he sees the point of being on the side of light. Someone has to fight that fight, even if it’s hopeless.
@fgoindarkg
@fgoindarkg 11 ай бұрын
"That which doesn't kill you, only scars you for life." The Dude.
@toprakbayder6074
@toprakbayder6074 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Also great music choice at the beginning, it's The Wedding from Dexter, right? My favourite song from the soundtrack.
@maxderrat
@maxderrat 2 жыл бұрын
Good ear!!!
@ral3514
@ral3514 Жыл бұрын
Human life is inexplicable, And still without meaning: A fool may decide it's fate.
@matthewmiller3630
@matthewmiller3630 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the work you put into these videos.
@AesirUnlimited
@AesirUnlimited 2 жыл бұрын
Life is what we make of it. If you only ever look for shadows, shadows are all you’re ever going to find. Life can be cruel, unfair, and even sometimes pointless. But it can also be good too. I broke free from my pessimistic worldviews by realizing that I was only choosing to think the way that I did. I chose to believe that life was cruel and unfair purely because that’s how I decided to see it. Once I decided to try and look on the bright side, I finally started seeing bright sides of living. Live may be ugly, but it can also be beautiful.
@rohankishibe6433
@rohankishibe6433 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that whenever we don't know the solution to a philosophical or moral problem, we should connect it back to our atheistic, factual reason for existing, or in other words, our purpose in life. And of course, the purpose of life is to continue existing, because if it wasn't then life wouldn't exist. The lungs don't just quit because they only want to help themselves, they help the rest of your body to survive. And this may be because lungs are dependant on your body, but we are very dependant on nature as well, so we aren't exempt. And much like the lungs, *you are not allowed to quit.* I don't care if you are the most depressed suicidal living thing on the face of the earth, as long as you are alive and have limbs and a brain, you *will* find a way to help. You must survive, then secure the survival of yourself and others, and then secure the security of survival further. Additionally, we can also determine the importance of certain parts of the human condition. Caring, love, sympathy, sacrifice, and any form of doing good outwards almost always expects a benefit from the situation, increasing survival. Anger, hatred, protectiveness, aggression, allows one to protect yourself or ones you care about from threats, and kill others in order to obtain resources that are beneficial or crucial for your own survival. Sadness allows one to quantify their loses. Losing a loved one is losing someone that helps you survive in some way, and it makes sense that it would be made into instinctual code. Fear protects us from threats we cannot defeat. Those were just emotions, but qualities like ignorance, bravery, ego, honesty, selfishness, justice, etc., can all be brought back to survival. Summary: Don't kill yourself. You are literally defying the purpose of life. And while your becoming less depressed, why not take the time to be useful and help other living things? What reason do we have not to become Ambassadors of life? Also the human condition is caused by the meaning of life/evolution, so it usually helps us survive. I would love to answer any questions or discussions about this concept, and as well, be sure to like this comment. I put a lot of effort into this comment and would love if it got really popular.
@MFLimited
@MFLimited 7 ай бұрын
“What doesn’t kill me makes me stronger“ one of the most overrated and untrue statements ever made. Non-fatal injury, both physical and emotional, often leaves a person, weaker, damaged and in pain
@simongritcel613
@simongritcel613 7 ай бұрын
Nailed it down to a T. Pain is universally accepted as shit, even people with chronic pain find it unpleasant to feel. There is no good in pain, the only thing a person might want to do with pain is to stop it immediately. Nobody will walk on broken legs for the sake of becoming stronger.
@dasuero7489
@dasuero7489 2 жыл бұрын
I tend to gravitate towards a black and white or all or nothing mentality, which plagues me daily especially when trying to interact with family and friends. It is a darkness I wish that could wash over or dim, but that feels like a fantasy or romanticized idea. Anyway, thanks for recognizing that me and countless others are people who seek out reprieve and comfort in positive, meaningful ways like in the form of community, Max. Online, I always do my best to avoid devolving my self into petty name calling, teasing, or any other worsened behaviors like tribalism though admittedly I've done some of that in the past and lacked impulse control while breaking out into rage and stormy frustration. Great video, and I'm sure I'll enjoy watching True Detective and more series like it Stay yellow!
@ljuta_rakija
@ljuta_rakija 2 жыл бұрын
I love when you do movies or tv shows... I am not a gamer but i also watch your videos about games... It amazes me that, honestly, i never read phylosophical books, nor i know anything about phylosophy but i truly enjoy your videos... Maybe cause you make it that way that its easy for person like me which is not so much in this kind of subject to understand... Keep going, great chanell man...
@joshuahelmeke
@joshuahelmeke 2 жыл бұрын
Not really my kind of show. But, most of what is produced out there today isn't my kind of show, either. It took some time for me to experience the grander side of transcendent moments like the one presented here, but I'm glad I did. I've had many of them and they've really helped me when I needed that kind of help. The light is indeed winning.
@FrankWest00
@FrankWest00 11 ай бұрын
Brave statement, Nietszche always hated interpretations.
@durfdurffigan8680
@durfdurffigan8680 2 жыл бұрын
Rust was very spirtual before the ending though, I think his vision wasn't about him discovering the other side but about realizing that his father and daughter loved him. also i think he used the phrase "time is flat circle" as metaphor for trauma.
@jcdenton4847
@jcdenton4847 2 жыл бұрын
I can understand a pessimistic world view, and picking and choosing. I see life as a very simple straight forward phenomena. It is brutal, uncaring, and not even capable of caring. It just is what it is. From insects fighting each other to chimps eating each other and just trying to reproduce and adapt. As more complex our psyches evolved there was more to go wrong. A hundred thousand years as nomads to only a few thousand in civilization we're still just trying to catch up to living like this and adapting. I think that's where mental illness comes from alot. Mutations trying to figure out how to navigate our civilized world and just hick ups along the way. Even in the most basic terms like that the only reason to live is to live, to see what happens, to find ways to better ourselves and our situations, and to find our niche in society as we are hardwired as social mammals. All that being said I have had moments that showed me there is more to this existence, supernatural experiences I witnessed first hand. I'm a Christian now because of them, but still I see the world in those very basic building blocks kinda way.
@ubermenschbrent
@ubermenschbrent 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always Max! I’ve been looking forward to you covering True Detective since I watched the show last year. For the purpose of debate, some of the points you present have great validity, however some I don’t entirely agree with due to perhaps my interpretation of the evidence provided. Firstly, I don’t think Rust can contribute his change of heart due to JUST seeing the ‘wormhole’ rather, it was more-so his near death experience on the operating table, fading in & out of consciousness, feeling a ‘warmth’ beyond consciousness that he couldn’t logically describe and sensing his daughter there waiting for him. He was ready to die when he faced Errol Childress, but he didn’t and instead was gifted an epiphany that he couldn’t rationalise with pessimism or rigid logic - one that spoke to the most inner parts of himself: the hurt from the tragedy of his daughter’s death. As for the ‘wormhole’ itself I believe it is a way to create ambiguity in the audiences’ conclusions. Is it just an hallucination or some greater, cosmic horror at work here? All to further add to the uncanniness of the environment and imbue the killer with an inhumanity that differentiates him from other serial killers. Secondly, I don’t necessarily believe Rust believes all of the theories and philosophical concepts he spouts to the other detectives in the interview room. Rust is obviously very intelligent and being ultimately pessimistic, he knows how to entertain certain concepts or ideas without fulling accepting them. Some points to consider: 1. Rust only willingly agrees to answer the detectives questions to, as Marty points out, “get a read on them” 2. He strategically consumes alcohol during the interview so that by law, the interview becomes refutable because of his intoxication (this is also confirmed by Pizzolato) I think the existence of ‘time is a flat circle’ and the M-brane theory in the show is to only add to it’s symbolism, pessimism and ambiguity. There are numerous parallels between the circular symbol on the victims, the wormhole, some of the speech by Errol Childress - it all creates this sense that there are things beyond what we know and can understand - which I suppose adds to your argument, Max. Lastly, I think the only reason Rust continues in his work and due diligence in solving the case is his inherit sense of duty and justice. Willingly suffering to only be a part of the world and do his part. Every time he is asked on why keep existing? why keep working? Why wake up everyday, if pessimism is your belief? His answers are at best, a riddle. “I tell myself I’ll bear witness,” and “Trying to just be a part of the body now,” My interpretation is that Rust is simply defending his pessimism. Sometimes we keep telling ourselves things because of our own stubbornness, despite our impulses to do what’s right and believe what’s true. Rust kinda walks the thin line between upholding a set of morals and principles and completely discarding them out of pessimism. He wants to have a purpose and he believes it’s his purpose but he doesn’t want to hold onto any illusions, religious or otherwise, or delusions of grandeur, his place in the world or how great the world is. To me, this is what makes Rust the perfect hero (or anti-hero)
@Ofkgoto96oy9gdrGjJjJ
@Ofkgoto96oy9gdrGjJjJ 7 ай бұрын
He may have got Nietzsche wrong but he got Schopenhauer right! There have been many melancholic philosophers throughout history of man who teach pessimism, Schopenhauer and the Buddha were such philosophers.
@Astartes-6969
@Astartes-6969 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't just the Spiral but also him Dying and seeing his Father & Daughter for one last time and him Coming Back to life that made Rust change his perspective of Existence. I do like the contrast of him not going mad from the Unknown like most Characters who experience Cosmic Horror or Cosmic Magnificence. Instead he cries in Awe of the beauty of it.
@playthechanges
@playthechanges 2 жыл бұрын
It is known that Nic Pizolatto read Thomas Ligotti’s “ Conspracy Against the Human Race” to inform his character Rust Cole. A pretty big oversight on your part, although you did a good job in your analysis. Pessimism is not a pathology. It is a very honest and realistic assessment of the human predicament. One could contend that optimism, like religion, is finding comfort in ignorance and delusion. Cheers
@Graficcha
@Graficcha 2 жыл бұрын
Both are interpretations, opinions either way. Valuing a bleak filtered and incomplete 'truth' over a comforting filtered and incomplete 'truth' isn'y any wiser or more correct just because it's negative. 'I am unhappy but at least this makes me better in some way than people that aren't' is just another baseless ego-defense.
@bud389
@bud389 2 жыл бұрын
Pessimism is just as honest as optimism. If you throw away the happiness in life because of the suffering that exists, it's just as religious as throwing away the suffering in life because of the happiness that exists. Yin and Yang. A happy life is tempered by an acceptance of suffering and an appreciation for happiness.
@danieldrouin3590
@danieldrouin3590 2 жыл бұрын
Very good content Max, thank you for your work
@danielwalley6554
@danielwalley6554 2 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel. I really like the thoughtfulness you put into your work. I'll enjoy watching your content.
@metsrus
@metsrus 7 ай бұрын
this show explored the full spectrum of the human belief systems. What sets them apart is the degree of conviction, from Yellow King cult to Rust preaching his beliefs which he probably wasn't 100% convinced of. I think the shows true meaning is a warning of how easy it is to get caught up in doctrines and dangerous when they go too far.
@fernandosalvador369
@fernandosalvador369 2 жыл бұрын
The archaic definition of Awful: Something inspiring reverential wonder or fear. To be faced by something awful is to be overwhelmed, somehow both at peace and terrified. Awful might be one of best words to describe both transcendence and the psychonautic experience.
@benpost9100
@benpost9100 2 жыл бұрын
(Forgive me I'm not gonna read 200+ replies to find out if someone made this point) The nebula he sees in the depths of Carcosa is "black star" in my eyes. "Time is a flat circle" were the words spoken to him just after the mutterings of "Black stars..." by Reggie LeDoux seconds before Marty sent him to the next cycle. Rust was seeing his own death as a black star type omen. He was witnessing his own mortality and perhaps even finding the significance of it staring into that abyss. Just my humble musings on it.
@biancagalaverna
@biancagalaverna 11 ай бұрын
This is a majestic analysis. The main reason why people is captivated by the fascinating personality of Rust, is that his worst definition of love, life and materialistic atheism reflects the worst abysmal nightmare of people's doubts, fears and unconsciousness, but he fairly drives, draughts and trains the audience, through his turbulent happenings, facts, extreme emotions, cynicism thoughts and disasters, to the final great revelation: HOPE. There's life over death, and evil has a predetermined, limited time, ending with failure, whereas LIGHT wins.
@Taliyah263
@Taliyah263 Ай бұрын
And crawling on the planets face. Some insects called the human race. Lost in time, and lost in space. And meaning
@3isr3g3n
@3isr3g3n Жыл бұрын
Pessimism is realism having a bad day. Sometimes a really bad one. But the Anti-Natalist angle bothered me. I am by no means a Philosopher, Psychonaut or hardcore scholar, but contemplating the wonderful coincidence that is "Life" on this planet is just invigorating. When i see birds flying, ants burrowing themselves or lizards tanking sun in our hand built stone wall in the garden i marvel at the wonder of biological life.
@fahadhussain66
@fahadhussain66 10 ай бұрын
What do you think of the zebra being eaten by the lion as it suffers and screams in agony? Is that marvelous and beautiful to you too?
@adamastor9869
@adamastor9869 10 ай бұрын
@@fahadhussain66 *Gigachad "Yes"
@AlexMatthews-xe8ld
@AlexMatthews-xe8ld 8 ай бұрын
When you look closer at the biological wonder you speak about it’s a much grimer picture, animals tearing each other apart and only the very best species will survive based on natural selection. 99% of all species that have ever existed on earth have gone extinct. I see no wonder in that just barbarism.
@imsurfingontheearthimasurf5975
@imsurfingontheearthimasurf5975 6 ай бұрын
When you are reminded of the Holocaust do you also marvel at the wonder of biological life?
@ninja011
@ninja011 2 жыл бұрын
To know joy, one must suffer, for in suffering can we truly know joy. Without the pain of suffering, joy has no meaning or value. To love joy is to love suffering, and in that is no greater joy. Pessimism can contain, paradoxically, great happiness. We have free will to choose but are fated to choose from a limited list of options. That life has no value or meaning, and in that is the greatest value there is. Meaning and value is a dialectic between the personal and the societal, the individual self and the societal self. Thus, the absurdity of existence breeds rational and meaningful realities in their meaninglessness. History repeats because of limited options that have little lasting meaning, but in choices made, mutations are introduced that can span new options, so history changes. The more they change, the more they stay the same, the more they change still. In this, we return to suffering and joy, for choice is suffering, and joy is the calm in not choosing or the outcome of choices that turn out well. Nevertheless, our choices have little effect, yet they are a mutation in the limited options that can spawn new options. Free will and fate are both illusions, hiding the reality of how much suffering we are willing to endure to see a desired outcome that changes the direction of human inertia.
@BH-BH
@BH-BH 4 ай бұрын
The reprieve is felt in understanding
@rogydante
@rogydante Жыл бұрын
Although Rust is mostly romanticized for his pre-finale view, I think it's important to think about his ascendance/transformation. Rust masks his ego as a nonchalant ''whatever'' pessimistic view, because he has been hurt more than most humans ever will be during their lifetimes. Taking a hard stance on nothing having meaning could be viewed as a defense mechanism; you numb the painful experiences by detaching yourself from being able to feel and process the bad, even if you do it at the cost of numbing the good as well. It's like a reverse ''a tide raises all boats'' situation. Rust basically copies the view of one of the killers, and views the universe as a dark place containing ''black stars'', but at the end of the series, he realizes (with help from Martin) that even though the universe is a predominantly dark place, the good deeds we do illuminate and bring light in the darkness, no matter how small they may be. He lets his guard down and starts processing his feelings again, and accepts that yes, you cannot save the world by yourself, but as long as we carry out the good deeds that are within our reach, the universe will be getting new stars, and in turn become a brighter and brighter place. I think True Detective S1 is a lot like Fight Club or American Psycho. It is remembered and largely romanticized for the thesis and not for the counter arguments and the conclusion that proves the thesis was not bulletproof if that makes sense. Many including myself relate to Rust because we have all been or are in a dark place, and instead of following through and continuing the arc, we romanticize and accept the characters initial unchallenged views and beliefs because it lets us stay in our comfort zone. I interpret the message of S1 as this: Nothing is absolute. The universe is dark, but not pitch black. If you acknowledge that there is darkness, you have to follow through and acknowledge that there are stars lighting up the place as well. Rust starts with an absolute worldview/philosophy, and Martie points out that he seems to be the kind of guy that gets tunnel vision and applies a story to a case which will lead him astray. Martie is only half-right, as Rust does this with his outlook on life and not the case. Martie says he is a ''people person'', and here you can see clearly how he instantly read Rust as a human being, and not Rust as a Detective.
@Abraxas0365
@Abraxas0365 5 ай бұрын
You just earned a subscriber. This is amazing.
@Entropy-ic3tf
@Entropy-ic3tf 4 ай бұрын
The evidence of forces that transcends consciousness cannot also be proven. There are limits of how much atom and matter properties can be transformed, and it's more safe to say that Entropy is the purpose of our existence.
@Davlavi
@Davlavi 11 ай бұрын
Love your work.
@carolinamay8328
@carolinamay8328 7 ай бұрын
"Life(time) is a Flat circle" is also part of Thelema occultism.
@jackbarton4938
@jackbarton4938 2 жыл бұрын
I heard him laughing about his character's world view in an interview with Jordan Peterson, purely, as I recall, because he thought it was understandable but absolutely absurd. I never buy any of this nihilist bullshit people come out with. If they truly believed it, they'd just take an overdose, but just like Rust they always weasel out of it with, 'Oh it's my instinctive programming to survive' or whatever. Also, in my opinion, anyone who backs these views up with Nietzsche has never actually read him properly. Nietzsche is the most vital and inspiring philosopher I've ever read.
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842
@makefoxhoundgreatagain842 2 жыл бұрын
You're conflating suicidal with nihilistic, like most people who dismiss it with a predictable visceral reaction. I understand why people might think that but nihilsm isn't a negative position, meaninglessness isn't negative. However, people who claim to be nihilists but get angry or bitter at the meaninglessness of existence are ironically giving meaninglessness meaning - it means something to them the world and universe is meaningless. True nihilsm is a neutral position, its not bad or negative, and it's no reason to get sad, bitter or suicidal. Living and dying are both options, sure. But we're already alive. Why change our state when life and death are equal? We simultaneously know life has no objective meaning while having a biological imperative to live. Maybe subjective meaning can be found.. but in the end any meaning you do find will be nullified by death. And so what? Who cares? Just enjoy your time.
@DBCooper01
@DBCooper01 2 жыл бұрын
Rust reminds me of Morgan Freeman's character in Se7en, a broken man who seemingly acts like the world is nothing but horrors and it's all pointless but deep down their is still a spark within him
@VvendigO.
@VvendigO. Жыл бұрын
Very smart and thoughtful analysis here, I find it extremely interesting even more so when True Detective S1 is my favourite piece of television (along with Hannibal of course:))
@Loreweavver
@Loreweavver 11 ай бұрын
Best opening ever. You also have one of the most civil comments sections on the interwebs.
@3goats1coat
@3goats1coat 7 ай бұрын
It always baffles me with how much authority and conviction can optimists preach their own self-deception.. *Optimism is cowardice* - Oswald Spengler
@mauri_andres01
@mauri_andres01 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful video, Max, congratulations.
@MariaElena51185
@MariaElena51185 Ай бұрын
His own true essence, is what Rust encountered during his nde.
@kokomanation
@kokomanation 11 ай бұрын
Eternal return is very possible to physically exist.The theory of relativity and quantum mechanics indicate that it is most likely real .If it happens we must be happy for the great things we are going to relive and hope that we will not choose the wrong things that brought us suffering
@mLnr-gz3jl
@mLnr-gz3jl 2 жыл бұрын
Yall think Kelly Clarkson was a big Nietzche fan?
@mood019
@mood019 2 жыл бұрын
This is one beautiful channel ☆
@silentm999
@silentm999 11 ай бұрын
In a single lifetime, time is a flat circle. We are doomed to repeat ourselves forever without growth. So Rust's view works within reincarnation.
@mikev8341
@mikev8341 6 ай бұрын
In my opinion Perspective Or Perception, doesn’t automatically make him a pessimist, he’s more pragmatic a realist. All else is just belief.
@TanisHalf-Elven
@TanisHalf-Elven Жыл бұрын
I use the power of negative thinking to cause the change that needs to persist to make positive improvement in your life.
@diaetare
@diaetare 2 жыл бұрын
A series of games that i think you will like is rusty lake, a series of games inspired by twin peaks. I would love to hear your own thoughts on these games since they have a really complicated timeline and is very alchemy oriented. It is one of my favorite series of games for many years and i think it really deserves more attention, since so much detail is put into it
@DaCrazyHand
@DaCrazyHand 4 ай бұрын
AKA, Cube Escape?
@SubtleStair
@SubtleStair 5 ай бұрын
New sub just commenting to say, "Ka is a wheel." Any Dark Tower fans here?
@simonw1252
@simonw1252 3 ай бұрын
There are more worlds than these ....😂💪
@juanos97
@juanos97 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite season of all time view throw the eyes of my favorite analyst, is what i can only describe as a good start of the year
@Mr47CRO
@Mr47CRO Жыл бұрын
If you look long enough into the darkness, you will see the light.
@xyzdub1
@xyzdub1 Жыл бұрын
accurately reflected. I like the way you handle the questions the characters and the show induce. Accepting your circumstances is still a way of maintaining or gaining dignity even your life is dispensable and painful... Bearing your circumstances that way may give u some moments of transcendence in life and a sense of greater values the writer of the show is talking about. That is even possible if u are an ahteaist in some cases not having a religion might even lead you to that path. Or to say it with a negative approach: Religion may be a trap for you because it offers the possibility of a devine reward. You may be trapped by this because you act to receive the reward and not to value the values themselves. Rhust despises people doing "positive things" while expecting gratification from God. They are still captured in their egoism and struggle to maintain their overrated identity.
@johngammon963
@johngammon963 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@zapatalevi922
@zapatalevi922 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure physicists were saying, but it seems to me that from a Thermodynamic perspective, Eternal Recursion is alive and well.
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