True Detective Season 1 Episode 8 'Form and Void' First Time Watching! TV Reaction!!

True Detective | Season One Episode Eight - Form and Void
Once there was only dark. If you ask me, the light's winning.
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[@TBRSchmitt]

Thank you to everyone who voted and recommended this amazing season of Television to us! Still hoping that we get to see Marty and Rust back in action one day!!

[@zekestone]

Please continue with the rest of True Detective series. Thanks.

[@ferashdaib7674]

season 2 and 3 have a different story , different detectives and different actors ,not near good as the first season

[@indicaman4205]

Watch Fargo the tv show

[@EchoFoxtrot21]

McConaughey has expressed interest in playing Rust again so let's hope so.

[@darensparks]

It's the best drama on TV , ever, as far as I'm concerned. Just season one that is.

[@lethaldose2000]

I'm really gonna miss Rust's character. He was a once-in-a-lifetime character with a once-in-a-lifetime performance.

[@PeteWeberFAN42]

I’ve watched the first season prob 5 or 6 times, never gets old, Rust is forever GOATed

[@ryanmartin4053]

I’m still holding out hope that we will see Rust again. They brought back Dexter this year, so anythings possible.

[@lethaldose2000]

@@PeteWeberFAN42 RUST is the GOAT. played by one of the great actors of our time.

[@Thepirireis]

@@ryanmartin4053 🤞🏻

[@sup9542]

There are very few performances that hit you like this one. It's at the highest level, that Daniel Day Lewis level where he just inhabits it. As much as we want another season or a movie with Rust, 8 episodes is more than we've ever gotten with any other GOAT-level performance.

[@breedingpitmetal]

I have seen this a million times but everytime Rust says "If you ask me the light is winning" and they limp away together I shed a tear.

[@Afreshio]

I like the optimistic finale. I know it means something because it's Rust, of all people, coming up with that conclusion. But the pessimistic voice (I'm not that pessimistic, mind you) always says: Nope, scientists have figured out that eventually ever start will consume it's core, then explode into a supernova or compress into a black hole. Eventually, in trillions of trillions of years the universe will be lit by blackhole accretion disks. No planets, no stars. Eventually even the black hole decays (Hawking's Radiation) and in time explode, liberating all that energy/matter that it was trapped inside the singularity. After that, energy will even out into space, reaching more and more entropy until no more chemistry isn't possible. So no possible for life to form in the whole cosmos. No hope for life. Then, with this ever expansive universe stretching the fabric of reality more and more, only photons will be the single subparticles traversing the universe. I can't recall if that's it. I think even at some point even photons cease to be. So it's all stillness and darkness. Darkness wins at the end. We are in the adolescence of the universe, the Era of Stars. But at the end it's just a brief moment of light compared to an eternity of darkness. But I'm sorta ok with that. Buddhism and shit.

[@BULL.173]

Yeah, I felt like that was perfect bookend to the story. Rust comes full circle, realizes his daughter is waiting for him. In a lesser show that ending would maybe come off as mawkish or overly sentimental. But True Detective is so well handled on so many levels I feel it earns the credibility to pull off an optimistic ending.

[@Hexon66]

@@Afreshio Yeah, I think that may qualify as overthinking the metaphor.

[@johnnyringo80]

@@Afreshio not actually Buddhism, that's Alan Moore. These lines are lifted straight from the "Top 10" series (there spoken by a dying interdimensional Alien guy).

[@ksattesahn]

Preacher at tent revival: “This world is a veil. And the face you wear is not your own.” Childress to Rust: “Take off your mask.”

[@strawdawgs78]

Nietzsche: "Every profound spirit needs a mask."

[@ksattesahn]

@@strawdawgs78 What’s the quote? “STFU Nietzsche?”

[@mart71746]

@@ksattesahn no I think it was: “is that Nietzsche? STFU”

[@treetopjones737]

@@ksattesahn Which is not pronounced "neet-SHE" it's "NEET-shuh."

[@ksattesahn]

@@treetopjones737 I didn’t know that. His name was pronounced wrongly by most all my life then.

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

TD Season 1 is still the high-water mark for peak television. It leaves all traditional limits in the rearview mirror, and leaves you baffled how they did it. Seems like magic.

[@AthanImmortal]

As evidenced by the fact season 2 and 3 pale in comparison.

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

@@AthanImmortal Season 3 is very good. I wouldn't mention it in the same breath as S1, but also would never mention it in the same breath as the abominable S2.

[@RianTheSpartan]

@@dudermcdudeface3674 s3 is so creepy and pulled me in so hard, only to let me down with the finale, which is exactly what reviews of that season say. Great characters, side plots, character deterioration over time because of the horrid crime(s)...just a bad ending. S2 they just tried too much

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

@@RianTheSpartan I would say S3 is more about the journey than the destination. But S2 is an insult. S2 slaps the audience in the face, over and over, like if they were filming a parody but keep violently insisting you're supposed to take it seriously. I'm surprised S2 didn't involve Tommy Wiseau.

[@thedude3288]

@@dudermcdudeface3674 my biggest gripe with season 3 was the mystery didnt unravel gradually. in the final episode a hallucination (or not depending on your interpertation) lays it all of it! so dumb. also all 3 seasons (including 2) have very solid performances. I'd rank Mcconaughey as 1 and Farrell as 2 (which makes season 2 that much more frustating that he got wasted like that).

[@CezaryAkakios]

The creepy woman in the house was played by Ann Dowd who is an absolute treasure and a fantastic actress. A lot of her roles are off-kilter characters or characters that seem damaged or even deranged, and she does a great job of finding a way to make them feel terrifying and human at the same time. You will get a huge dose of Ann Dowd's greatness if you watch _The Leftovers_ (hint, hint.)

[@boddahif6967]

Imo nothing tops this season of true detective, but seasons 2 and especially 3 , of The Leftovers, are right up there in greatness and come very close

[@moonchild8422]

I didn't realize that was her!!! She is AMAZING in The Handmaid's Tale as well!

[@b33fsupe]

IMO the best Television show ever made. I would curl up into a ball under a blanket for a week if TBR reacted to the Leftovers.

[@davidsender7479]

Thank you for the Anne Dowd acknowledgement. Perfectly said.. She IS a treasure !!

[@theonewhoistornapart2506]

She was also in Hereditary which is another fantastic film.

[@WOranos]

Camilla: You, sir, should unmask. Stranger: Indeed? Cassilda: Indeed, it's time. We have all laid aside disguise but you. Stranger: I wear no mask. Camilla: (Terrified, aside to Cassilda.) No mask? No mask! -- The King in Yellow, Act I, Scene 2

[@adamwells9352]

For I cannot forget Carcosa where black stars hang in the heavens...

[@Khay-77]

Fargo season 1 is another perfect season of television with amazing performances from multiple actors with one of the best villain roles by Billy Bob Thornton.

[@Beny88pl]

Fargo was great, i am not sure tho if season one was my favorite but agree that Billy Bob Thornton was phenomenal.

[@shaheersk721]

Fargo is too good !!

[@michaelhenry3234]

@Tagedieb It's funny how everyone has different opinions on Fargo. I've seen people say season 2 is bad, season 3 is bad, season 1 is mediocre, and then people who say the exact opposite lol. Personally, season 2 is my favorite, season 1 is a close second, and season 3 isn't too far behind.

[@mwrench4185]

@@michaelhenry3234 I also might give the edge to season 2 over 1, but they're both excellent. For some reason never got into season 3.

[@Drax514]

Season 2 is better, IMO. Better story, better characters, and it's the most stylish episodes of a TV show to hit the screens in years. The split screens, the different narrative devices, the crazy over saturated freeze frame shots during the climax. Season 2 of Fargo is an absolute masterclass

[@bobjork3345]

In episode 5, One of the two officers that let the guy out of his jail cell to talk to his lawyer was named Childress, He probably alerted Errol who threatened the jailed guys famiily and forced him to commit suicide. The sheriff that wrote of the missing persons complaint on Marie Fontenaut was Ted Childress, probably an Uncle to Errol. William Childress was the father of Errol, and is the guy that is slowly getting mummified. According to the elderly black lady he was the one that caused the scars on Errols face (maybe burned him on a stove or something). So Errol got a late payback on him and even saw his mouth shut, maybe was tired of him mouthing off. All of the above must have been members of the Carcosa Cult, as well as Dewall & Reggie Ledoux. Errol Childress seems to have been their chief kidnapper from areas surrounding the Tuttle Foundations Schools and later from different Parish schools, were he worked He was also one of the chief murderers, but perhaps there were others to, the wast majority of victims were buried at Carcosa, but it´seems sometimes Errol wanted to show of his "skills" and fantasies in public (Dora Lange, Lake Charles Case). Billy Lee Tuttle was of course a part off the cult (he wouldent have the tape otherwise). Govenor (later senator) Eddie Tuttles role is unclear, he must have met Errol (a cousin) in childhood when he grew up near Erath. The tales of Rich guys and "big people" being a part of the Carcosa cult makes it most likely that he was involved, maybe as a protector first and foremost. it would be difficult for a governor / senator with lots of aides, state police protection, press secretaries and ordinary media on their heels to get away to murder orgies ever so often. Maybe it´s what the videotapes was for, so tha´t the likes of Eddie & Billy Lee could "enjoy" the Cult ritual murders. Maybe they should have had Billy Lee´s corpse exhumed and looked for a branded spiral on his neck.

[@inventsable]

Really enjoying this channel. Good choices, genuine reactions, no overreacting or obvious fakeness, charming couple, good sense of editing 👍

[@aveemykel6203]

Exactly how I feel; so well said!

[@b.ls.7276]

Ditto! I think TBR stands for "The Best Reactors" :) :) I truly enjoy this talented couple.

[@CrayCruz]

Agree 100, I really appreciate their no-nonsense reactions, even their intro just gives you the facts."Hey, I'm TBR and this is my wife." No BS...love it. Plus they give good analysis.

[@Afreshio]

I've seen a lot of reactions channel and this is the best I've come across.

[@jamesd2282]

Who gives a fuck about how other people react? These channels r so fuckin stupid- just play the fuckin clips weirdos.

[@jzugel60]

One of the best seasons of TV ever! Glad we got to experience it again watching your reactions. Can't wait to see what y'all watch next👍💯

[@michaelsegriff3362]

I believe the climactic scene was in an abandoned Civil War era fort. The icon with the skulls and cloth or robes was the Yellow King.

[@paulhewes7333]

Fort Macomb was actually initially constructed in 1822. But a French Fort pre-dated that. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Macomb

[@SidPhoenix2211]

I LOVE the ending. I feel like Rust was absolutely prepared to die, and even hoped to do so. But now he's alive. He survived. And he kind of has to deal with that. But this little incident kind of showed him that even after all this time, the love between him and his daughter is still there and that means a lot to him. So he will continue on. I just love that.

[@PaulFiction10]

The epilogue is an extraordinary end for this masterpiece of TV show. Rust saying "I think light is winning" shows that he stopped being a pessimist and start having hope. A perfect end of character development for s perfect character. Rust from True detective, Heisenberg from Breaking bad and Omar from The wire are my top 3 favorite characters of TV shows.

[@DeinFerm]

i HONESTLY THINK rust's "hallucinations" wasn't one, it was real. It was the way to Carcosa, the way to bear witness of the Yellow King.

[@JamesWVanFleet]

It sort of brilliantly threads the needle, since the vision of a madman would necessarily be indistinguishable from the actual path to dread Carcosa.

[@EvanFowler]

The original ending was that Rust would vanish in his fight with Childress, with Marty finding only his gun on the ground in the chamber, and it'd be a big mystery as to whether the cult's swamp magic was real, but the evidence that he leaves with the bar owner goes out in the mail and takes down the conspiracy. Apparently, they decided during production that they wanted to go for a more hopeful ending and that it would be unfair not to give Rust some closure. I like both endings. Lot more hope in the one we got, but I would've loved the double-down swamp magic, too.

[@WOranos]

I think it was Rust's "unquiet" mind that allowed him to briefly push aside reality's veil and perceive the real Carcosa beyond.

[@treetopjones737]

He had used hard drugs when undercover. LSD ( or harder hallucinogens ) gives people flashbacks.

[@Deguello23]

Or he's experiencing some part of that extradimensional perspective he talked about. Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, mixed with Superstring Theory, and he's seeing time and space collapse, matter in superposition, reducing to that 'flat circle?' Or the King In Yellow, Carcosa, and the Cult of Hastur/Haita/The Whisperer in Darkness are just something Errol Childress read too much about, and Rust was just hallucinating. I love the open question of it. My personal preferred take is that they're all true... maybe. The drugs paid him a visit, he saw from that perspective that informed his pessimism so heavily, which opened a passage (though maybe not a 'real' one), and the Darkness Childress served made it happen right then.

[@Flesharrower]

McConaughey has said in interviews he's open to picking up Rust again if everything was right, would be great if it happened.

[@moonchild8422]

That would be amazing!!! Maybe now that Dexter is coming back for a new season shows like this will follow suit

[@Afreshio]

@@moonchild8422 Hell yeah, but I need to Pizzolato to write a tight script again.

[@thrice2565]

Only if they made a great script like Season 1.

[@thrice2565]

@@moonchild8422 Dexter was good but the new ending dudeeee kinda sucks

[@treetopjones737]

@@thrice2565 It sucked BIG TIME. The original show ended it right.

[@SidPhoenix2211]

PS: As a general rule of thumb... If you are ever stabbed or impaled, DO NOT remove the object. Wait for medics. Pulling the object out yourself you can do more damage, and possibly start extra bleeding that was being stopped by the object.

[@lethaldose2000]

Errol Chilvers calling to Rust. "Come on down here with me. Come on down priest". His voice in his throne room of bones and old clothes. Tied together with branches. It's such a terrifying scene. Hearing Errol Chilvers is like hearing the Texas Chainsaw killer if he had spoken in that movie. What a terrifying character. And we didn't even need much time with him to feel that chill to the bone.

[@Danishdrums]

Actually, the bones and old cloth is a depiction of the king in yellow, described as a mysterious figure wearing long golden robes and a golden mask. Pay close attention to Childress commanding Rust to take off his "mask". In the original King in Yellow short story, the king attends a play where everyone in the audience and the actors are wearing masks, like at a costume ball. In the end they all remove it except for the king. When they ask him why he didnt remove it, his answer is: "I wear no mask". In horror, they realize that its his real face, and madness ensues.

[@thunderstruck5484]

Mathew is great of course but Woody is that character he played him so well whenever I see Woody now he’s Marty , thanks for taking us on this journey with you it’s going to be hard to top this series thanks again.

[@user-uq4gr5nl5o]

I never really appreciated Woody as an actor until True Detective. Now anywhere I see him, I see Marty. He was great.

[@kckev00]

one of the best pairings ever rust and marty . alot like swearengen and bullock great actors playing off each other brilliantly

[@CrayCruz]

Oooo, great comparison of characters...TD and Deadwood.

[@benmason9755]

Season 2 and 3 are both well worth watching. I think most of detraction that they've received has simply come from the fact that this season is SO GOOD that there was just no way that they coul have lived up to it, but both stand up EXTREMELY well on theitr own.

[@thefilmeffect6089]

I hated season 2 when it aired, but after my third watch I loved it. It’s so convoluted, but once you understand everything it’s actually an interesting story. The characters are also fantastic and Colin Farrell gives a masterful performance. I prefer it over the third season now.

[@Chiefn-ly7yr]

Season 2 looked wack season 3 looks better than two though never bothered to watch hard to follow season one

[@A-small-amount-of-peas]

HBO just never fail to blow my mind, for me started with The Larry Sanders Show and carried on through The Soprano's, The Wire, Game of Thrones and many more iv'e missed. Best TV in the world hands down

[@fuelman1391]

My take on the "problem" with Season 2: Season 2 is really, really good. Excellent performances from all the actors (I think it's Vince Vaghn's best performance). It's also really interesting to see the pacing difference between life in the South, and life in southern California. So...Season 2: really, really good. Season 1: absolutely f$&*ing incredible. That's the problem.

[@CrayCruz]

I agree. Season 1 is like the Superbowl Champs and Season 2 is like the losing team. Both great, but one was so deliciously f@ cking awesome that the following act just can't hold a candle to them.

[@Trepanation21]

100%. The reason S2 "bombed" is because everybody was expecting more of S1 - The problem is that Season 1's greatest character wasn't an actor, it was Louisiana, sets, and cinematography to complement it. All seasons have excellent performances and great writing, but the simple truth is that contemporary LA is *nowhere near* as compelling and unique as the mystery and superstition of the SE bayou paired with the excellent character of Rustin Cohle's design, and the much more familiar archetype of Marty used as a prompt to explore more of the character of Cohle. Rewatch S2, yall. It's *very* good.

[@RobertMorgan]

Season 2 was ok to me. I think the CA setting was more haunting than the deep south. Probably my favorite Vince Vaughn performance was his 'walk through the desert' when he hallucinates his wife and she's like "Oh no, you died way back there..." and he looks back to see his dead body 50 yards back on the ground and his spirit has walked away without him even realizing it, amazing. Hell I'm off to rewatch that scene.

[@SidPhoenix2211]

I LOVE the shot of the camera pulling back as Rust goes deeper into the woods and we begin to see the remains of an old fort (or whatever that structure is). It drives the tension up and is also kinda metaphorical. Kinda showing how all of this thing is soooo much bigger than they can ever hope to understand.

[@Burt_Fuggin_Reynolds]

Can’t wait for you guys to do Season 2… you may hear a lot of things about season 2 or season 3, but really, you can’t blame that feedback, everything is so hard to compare to season 1, but please continue with True Detective, every season has their own style and thing… all seasons are definitely worth a view.

[@MDelorean]

Fully agree, season 2 is a totally different animal, which can be difficult to tame at first glance, but once you invest the time in it you can see its beauty.

[@justinlevy274]

Season 2 and 3 are still better than 98% of tv shows

[@emlameyer]

I think overgrown the structure area we saw in this finale was an old confederate civil war fort. super creepy how that family made it their sacrificial alter and burial site.

[@trespasserswill7052]

Long before. Shortly after the battle of New Orleans.

[@ems7448]

It is... Fort Macombe, close to New Orleans, which was decommissioned in 1871.

[@StayFractalesque]

it's always a beautiful thing seeing people experience this the first time.. glad y'all enjoyed it, cheers!

[@ornellaaribam]

My favourite scene of the final episode is when Rust looks out the hospital window or rather at his own reflection all battered and bruised. That scene truly sums up about the meaning of True Detective.

[@CMThomas83]

I love this season. It subverts your expectations by ending on an uplifting and hopeful note, which seems like it should be an impossible task once you’re engrossed in the show and given the subject matter, but they pull it off!

[@CrayCruz]

Yes, good point. Agree 100.

[@shockmesane4158]

I'm glad you kids enjoyed this yarn. I myself want to acknowledge that Matthew and Woody were both SO GREAT in this. Either of those performances would have been Oscar worthy, but you can't win an Oscar for a mini-series on HBO.

[@xxraddrummerxx]

I enjoyed watching this season with you guys.

[@kyur3813]

Of the entire series, episode 2 stands out for dropping a huge bomb which not every viewer might have noticed: Dora Lange's diary mentions The King in Yellow, which is a term that carries weight even outside this show. The King in Yellow is a book by Robert W. Chambers, and it is part of the Lovecraftian horror mythos complex. Carcosa is also a part of it, and so is the so-called "Yellow Sign" (which could be interpreted as this show's spiral symbol). As a result, fans of the Lovecraftian cosmic horror genre had this additional layer, and viewers who payed close attention could see that the crew behind the show carefully played with the colour yellow in a few scenes, as it often marks moments of decadence and decay. True Detective Season 1 is a true masterpiece. Every performance is great, every episode relevant and captivating, every dialogue interesting. The soundtrack, set design, non-linear storytelling, it's as close as perfect at it can get for a crime show. We all want to see more episodes with these characters, but I think it's best to keep the entire experience as compact and high-quality as it is. The finale and conclusion is also too well done. Better short and sweet than seeing the show thin itself out and run itself to death across too many episodes.

[@chand911]

A thread that was kind of never resolved but was heavily theorized before the finale, was that Maggie's family was part of the circle and that Marty's oldest girl saw some of the photos or videos at their house one time and that's why she positioned the dolls that way before, and why she had problems with her sexuality later.

[@theonewhoistornapart2506]

That makes a lot of sense. Her father gave me those kind of vibes.

[@Humanipathic]

Creator explained it was just show the reach of the darkness. Not personal involvement.

[@Shazbut-he3ne]

Those final scenes are just astonishing. It's like the best TV ever.

[@bruceheckerman7343]

Thank you guys for being the only reactors on KZbin to actually have intelligent conversations about the shows you watch, especially this one. BTW, Liked season 2! And 3 is good too. I hope you watch both.

[@CrayCruz]

TBR and Samantha are No. 1 IMHO, but a close second is "Brandon Likes Movies" he gets it.

[@bruceheckerman7343]

@@CrayCruz Something about that guy that bugs me.

[@treetopjones737]

S. 2 was a toss-off ending, like the finale of Lost.

[@Parker307]

It cracked me up when Sam is all stressed at the scene and says "Why is the shot so high?!"

[@thomasbanks641]

In one of the earlier episodes, rust goes on this tangent and talks about the one clue that makes your eyes pop, only for Marty to be the one to find it. Hence the "FUUUCK you, man"

[@menolikey_]

I've always assumed Carcosa was just an old fort on a Louisiana slave plantantion.. with a bit of old evil occult designed into it such as the oculus in the dome. The overgrowth represented the cult moving on and up into power and only using it occasionally while the low level members barely maintaining but using it.

[@svetaahmetova5508]

It wasnt a hallucination, it was Hastur an evil God from other dimension who is depicted as a whirl that Rust was witnessing because Rust is a classical priest archetype which in culture could see and contact with world of spirits... and Childres was just an avatar of Hastur, human body avatar... but Hastur and Rust constantly fight with each other in different reincarnations because for a long time maybe even eternity Rust's soul is lost in Carcosa a ghost town between two worlds - our material and the spirit world. So Rust as a true priest is damned to be born again and again and protect human kind from Hasturs evil energy!

[@thomassmart4088]

Yellow King calling Rust a 'little Priest' is a nice detail - more hints to a bigger spiritual war the cook mentioned

[@symonheiloguu]

Since you guys have finished, Carcosa and the Yellow King are based on Lovecraft's writing, that's why it feels as if Carcosa is another realm. On the story of the Yellow King, he would take children and mess with their heads through nightmares very much like the Yellow King does in True Detective, but with LSD. Another thing is that some of Rust's quotes are straight out of the book "Conspiracy Against the Human Race", a book written about another writer of cosmic horror as well. So, many of Rust's visions may not just be a vision, maybe it's actually something cosmic.

[@kojiattwood]

Also based on some works of Ambrose Bierce.

[@DeinFerm]

I agree, the last one was The portal to Carcosa, the way to The Yellow King

[@DeinFerm]

Also if anyone is interested there is an amazing video by bluworm called In the court of the Yellow King and the way the man enters and travels to Carcosa is the Same looking portal

[@JamesWVanFleet]

@@kojiattwood Technically both Bierce and Lovecraft were borrowing from Robert Chambers' "The King in Yellow," a short story collection that semi-revolved around a play that would drive people insane, titled "The King in Yellow." The back half of the collection is less horror/sci-fi, more period drama, but the first few stories are still-great chillers and super-important in the development of cosmic horror (which HPL built on). [Sidebar: the best modern author of cosmic horror is probably Thomas Ligotti, an anhedoniac recluse whose writings on anti-natalism (the idea that the inevitability of human suffering makes every new birth, on premise, morally abhorrent) were a big influence on Rust's perspective.] Recommended: "The Repairer of Reputations" and "The Yellow Sign" by Chambers, "The Red Tower" by Ligotti.

[@kojiattwood]

@@JamesWVanFleet Yes, thank you for mentioning Chambers, I had forgotten about him; sorry.

[@lethaldose2000]

Sam and TBR. It's not that TD season 2 and 3 are bad. In fact, season 3 is amazing as well. However, no other season will compare to season 1, because they will not have Rust as a character in them. Even if you brought his character back, McConahey would not play him. To McConahey the painting of RUST is complete. To return to the Rust character would just ruin the painting.

[@johnmckenna5782]

Strange is the night where black stars rise, and strange moons circle through the skies, but stranger still is lost Carcosa...

[@marcuscato9083]

As Rust would have said before his reawakening: You wrote this comment many times before, and you will write this comment many times again.

[@osdbest]

I completely relate with the sentiment, "I am sad to see it go, but I cannot wait to see how it wraps up." This series weighed very hard on my mind for a tv show lol.

[@TomVCunningham]

What's stuck out to me from multiple viewings is how Rust drives the entire investigation but Marty swoops in at the end with the big break in the case.

[@gianlucamarzani4888]

"And then we went out to see the stars" Dante Alighieri In the finale Rust seems to quote the great Italian poet

[@streetlevelaudio4388]

Have you guys read Mat McConaghey’s Autobiography? He mentions watching himself on True Detective every week with his family and being so invested in it. Such an amazing book..

[@rebeccahopkins9522]

This one season of True Detective will always remain one of the best seasons of television ever. It’s literally perfect.

[@tokyochannel2020]

BTW the final battle was filmed at Fort Macomb , an abandoned army fort in Lousinana.

[@Mobischer]

For Rust to come to those Hopeful thoughts after all that happened to him is very touching

[@timothyhedrick5295]

IMO one of the best series ever. I remember my wife and I being completely transfixed through this whole series when it came out. The chemistry between those two just can't be matched.

[@Khay-77]

I love the relationship these two have and how they play off of one another. Rust is one of the most unique characters in all of cinema.

[@MercurianFunk]

Ah, what a treat this is going to be

[@RobertSmith-bz5ug]

Thanks for sharing a great show.. There has been some rumors of Marty and Rust returning , both Matt and Woody are on record saying they would love revisiting those characters.. We can only hope..

[@eyemknothear3312]

Until Rust's near-death experience, he was the optimal pessimist, the atheist, the man who mocked the churchgoers for their faith. Then after letting go of his life and feeling his daughter's love in the cosmos, he was reborn as a man with faith, an optimist and a believer. I hope Matthew McConaughey writes a memoir book someday titled "The Gospel According To Rust."

[@GentM2015]

He most definitely was not reborn a "man of faith" or a "believer" lol. He started to develop a more optimistic point of view but that doesn't mean he's suddenly going to start beliving fairy tales.

[@rightkumaran]

@Troyhand lol bullshit. He understood life more after that incident. He is never into fairy tale craps 😂

[@Hexon66]

@@GentM2015 Excellent point, akin to the notion of religion being the "opiate of the masses" espoused by Marx. Not so much that it is addictive, but that it's a false palliative. It may appear to soothe and dull pain, but it's superficial and doesn't reach root causes. What Rust experienced was a connection beyond what something as petty as religion and silly as heaven could provide.

[@Chris-wj1qn]

You guys should watch season 3 of "True Detective." It was pretty good.

[@ded-pihto]

season 2 first

[@insrtcowjoke]

For me, it's not even really that they're (Rust and Marty) amazing characters, but the damn *CHEMISTRY* between them! Omg, man. It's absolutely top tier, for me. There's no better chemistry between two characters in a show or movie. A couple come close or tie it, but nothing surpasses it. This is one of the greatest series ever made.

[@b.u.l.1734]

Season 2 and 3 are definetly worth the watch. They're not as good as Season 1 but they're still great in their own right (specially Season 3).

[@CrayCruz]

Hats off to you guys for delving into Season 1with such eagerness. I really love your reactions and analysis. It was like watching it the first time over again. Thank you doesn't say enough, but you guys are awesome.

[@lethaldose2000]

the RUST character was driven by amazing writing and even more amazing acting. As McConahey dove into the deep end to fully understander the psyche of an extraordinary character.

[@jritter1]

One thing that you missed and that I missed is at the 3:33 mark notice how they have the detective pull out the video tape. Remember they had gloves and now the detectives fingerprints are all over that video tape. Long story short they’ve got his ass.

[@ksattesahn]

Also, compare the cynical 1995 Rust’s philosophy to Rust in 2012, both before and after Childress. His religious/philosophical evolution is brilliant writing.

[@tallykev6608]

Excellent review of the episode and the entire season. Well done indeed! You guys really appreciated and dissected it very well. As you pointed out, Woody Harrelson and Matthew Mcconaughey had such great chemistry, and the story itself was just incredible. There were questions left open at the end and maybe a few things not tied up, but that never bothered me. It was all about Marty and Rust, and the ending was perfect imho. As far as subsequent seasons, none were gonna measure up - ever. Season 2 is so so. Never watched Season 3.

[@TheEndKing]

Congratulations, you two finally did it. You've watched every episode of True Detective.

[@RustinChole]

Every last single episode yup. No need to look for more.

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

Season 3 is worthwhile. Not the kind of crazy magic as season 1, but pretty compelling.

[@ryanmartin4053]

😂 😂

[@user-uq4gr5nl5o]

I don't understand how people can acknowledge that Season 1 is the best season of TV ever, and at the same time not realize that just because Season 2 and 3 didn't get to that insane level it doesn't mean they are bad. I would bet my life that if Season 1 didn't exist, all the people shitting on the other seasons would be praising them.

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

@@user-uq4gr5nl5o Season 3 is certainly excellent, but Season 2 is bad and embarrassing on its own demerits. And I mean everything about it. Great actors somehow turn in godawful performances. Everything is cringe-level pseudo-edgy rather than the real edge we get from 1 and 3.

[@roywilson4514]

The best partners since Han & Chewie! We need more woody & matthew!

[@b.ls.7276]

Compelling reaction and discussion. TBR & Sam are the Channel to follow. Peace to you guys too!

[@denroy3]

Old, but it was a hatchet not a hammer...that's why it stuck in Harrelson's chest when he threw it at him.

[@stephaniebedworth2470]

I swear that crazy lady was Aunt Lydia from The Handmaid's Tale.

[@chsot68]

For what it's worth I enjoyed Season 2.

[@cluster_f1575]

I think S2 wasn't bad, it's just that S1 set the bar so high. The chemistry between Marty & Rust is one of the things that makes it so good. I thought S2 was ok, S3 was better & felt like a return to form but S1 was hands down the best of the the three.

[@MDelorean]

Season 2 is my favorite one to re-watch, even though I think season 1 is in a league of its own. I love the music of Lera Lynn in S2, and the characters really grew on me.

[@b.u.l.1734]

Vince Vaughn and Colin Farrel are great in Season 2.

[@treetopjones737]

Like the finale for Lost, what's the point of it? Like they didn't know where to go with the story.

[@Michael_L_Morrison]

All of the cities and towns mentioned in the series are around my home town, including the hospital. I always appreciated that about the show.

[@shawnroberts8650]

The brick building at the end was a old civil war fort.

[@johnt84]

What a beautiful way to end a show right? The love for his daughter was his whole drive (Rust). I want this duo back for another season, or even another series! Woody & McConaughey.🍻 🙏

[@Josh-yh5nc]

Rust and Maggie didn't "sleep together," they were both wide awake and her bent over a kitchen counter.

[@LinksPB]

50:20 I think no one commented this yet. The real world location at the end is Fort Macomb, which is near New Orleans

[@vincentjoyce5100]

McCaughnehey (I never spell his name right) won an Oscar that year, but his best acting is on display here. I’m on rewatch this on your Patreon!

[@peterjonas4971]

Good catch on the ceiling and the visibility of flare before they showed it, Samantha!

[@kasandrapurplekitten]

One of the best tv shows there has ever been

[@doubleexoticokay]

i watch almost all reactions. you are both the best.

[@VonPunk]

Events of this Season do get mentioned in Season 3. You'll enjoy the other two seasons so I hope one day you watch those too. It was a total pleasure to watch this reaction series on Season 1. :)

[@kylegacy]

Genuinely beginning to wonder if I'm the only person who's noticed this, but I'm sure the tune Errol is whistling at the beginning is the same tune Peter Lorre's child killer whistles in the film 'M' (1931). I think it's such a sweet and overlooked little detail.

[@shanenolan8252]

Thanks guys. I forgot this was coming tonight. Sweet

[@waltermontiel4405]

Nic Pizzolatto, the writer, and the show get so much credit for the nihilism and the antinatalism espoused throughout, but I think he's so much more wholesome than that deep down. To me, the show is given credit for philosophies expressed by Rust in a moment of deep pain, but it actually concludes in a really sweet and uplifting way. Not to say it negates what came before. I would genuinely recommend season 3. To me, it's a hidden gem of a season. It gets compared to the first one so it won't live up, but it's its own thing, and it sticks the landing really well. Season 2 is also good, it's just a lot more uneven in quality and it's *very* sad.

[@marcwa74]

I have to thank you guys for this reaction! I loved this season of True Detective but I only saw it once when it first aired. Probably b/c the subject matter and the case were so disturbing. But the performances of everyone involved were so amazing, both in front of and behind the camera that it made for a great rewatch/ reaction. This is the time period when the "McConaissance" was at its peek and the pairing of Woody and Matthew was casting gold! 10/10

[@jstratton1981]

I assumed "Carcosa" was an abandoned military battery left to nature. Noticed the room where the final fight occurs is the same spot in that horrid videotape.

[@beatleblev]

I think you're right. I think it is probably from the Civil War. I've seen others from that time period that look similar. That overgrown courtyard was probably the exercise grounds. I think about this show on the drive down to New Orleans when I go. There are several nearly abandoned towns in the Mississippi delta. The overgrown dilapidated schools, siloes, and barns look like just the place to find a weird wooden ornament, creepy mural, or dead body.

[@JeffersonMills]

Great reaction and analysis! So glad you watched it and enjoyed it. The light and dark ending was taken pretty much whole from the comic book “Top Ten” by Alan Moore (who also wrote Watchmen, V For Vendetta, From Hell, and many other classics).

[@ghostofyourmom]

My 6 degrees of separation story to True Detective: The TD writer took inspiration from Alan Moore's "Top Ten" scene for that conversation at the very end about the "dark's territory/but the light is winning". "Top Ten" was written by Moore an illustrated by Gene Ha. My father, for years, was a friend/colleague (pathologists) of Mr. Ha's father. So yeah, if I ever talk to Gene Ha, I'll have to ask him if he watched True Detective and what he thought!

[@sirlisterofsmeg333]

Was it a hallucination? Hmmm ;) As for the structure its Fort Macomb built in the 1820s

[@billrovnan8573]

Very few crime dramas compare to "True Detective" but "The Wire" is a worthy bookend.

[@jasonstinebaugh8447]

I loved your reactions to this show! Thank you both! If you haven't seen it yet, another great cop show based largely in the rural south (in this case Kentucky) I really think you might enjoy the show Justified.

[@TheSADHU88]

There is one thing about the satanic guy, hes not just big, hes posessed, thats why he has supernatural strenght, think about it how many people have the strenght to lift somebody on his knife with one hand like that, hes obviously not working in hard labour, hes mowing fucking lawns, and hes not working out. Other thing is he doesnt feel pain really he got shot two times and managed to hit marty with a hatchet throw, do you know how hard that is ? And after being shot ? I trained martial arts and i practiced throwing knives shuriken and hatches, not an expert but i know how to do it, and i can tell you thats a crazy good hit that not many people can make. And do you know why he called Rust little priest ? Because Rust is a special person, he has a very strong connection to God even through he denies it most of his life, his energy is that of a priest a man of God, thats why the satanic guy has a special appetite to kill him. This whole thing about this guy is way too realistic to real word satanists(real ones not edgy kids) and its scary, but as in real life God wins in the end.

[@BigMike246]

This was the best season of television I have ever seen. Did Rust hallucinate? Or was he actually seeing Carcosa?

[@andreaspooky6183]

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Nietzsche

[@gingerbill128]

great show and was fun watching. Have you seen 'Mindhunter'? S1 of that was excellent.

[@roywilson4514]

Absolute love you two! ❤️

[@davidwilkins5932]

I think this is one of the BEST crime dramas ever, whether on TV or feature film. The ironic problem for the series, is that it’s so brilliant that it’s nearly impossible to follow-up. The following seasons were fine on their own, but compared to the first, they were weak.

[@max-qk1do]

every once in a while i have go back and listen to that intro music. its just legendary.

[@terryhughes7349]

They did a good job dressing up Fort Macomb (civil war military camp).

[@Chris-dp2jj]

Ive always said, the Louisiana woods are the closest thing to a jungle.

[@John_Locke_108]

Considered re-watching the episode first but to heck with it. I'm gonna relive the experience by watching your reaction.

[@rhysroberts515]

You two are the best!!

[@Ghoulstille]

The Carcosa Set was a Civil War Era Fort in New Orleans. Fort Pike National Historic Site.

[@klyph]

"I strike you as more of a talker or a doer, Steve?"