True Sight Insights : The International 2017 Finals

Relive True Sight : The International 2017 Finals with fun facts, interesting statistics and player insights along the way.

[@janelevensalvador5699]

Thank you, valve. This is the best time to upload this for us, Nigma fans. Coz we're able to watch a video where they are actually winning.

[@aumkarpatel]

🤣🤣

[@MBilal-ob8ks]

Haha same bro same. I feel you

[@rtzdidnotwinti1044]

Pretty bad 2 years for us Nigma fan

[@yannominno]

Genuine but funny comment xD

[@clemenoerleanthoneedizon2081]

Like u low mmr.player tho

[@TheGarfield1337]

The insight about air pollution in Seattle after Kuro told his guys to get the air in was pure gold

[@schrodingjer1308]

thank you valve, without this, theres no chance I will learn about that a study in 2021 found out that flushing public toilets can carry aerosolized droplets of used toilet water over 15 feet.

[@majuseo]

If the toilet has lid, close it then flush. If the toilet has no lid, flush then run like Flash.

[@amirunnaufal1825]

😂

[@dibo458]

🤣🤣🤣

[@cjramos1158]

And that seattle in 9th with the most polluted air in america

[@xxJinraixx]

12:04 I always thought something was wrong with Anti-Mage's voice at that time, apparently he had inhaled helium then. Thanks to Valve for shedding light on the matter

[@vincent78433]

i love that the crowd starts cheering kuroky when they see he's crying, such a beautiful moment

[@jake975]

My all time favorite dota stack. This was the last year I played dota seriously and watching these guys win was such a great feeling

[@caster-]

yep, this was awesome

[@gl0ntz]

Xod? Susge

[@TheFaixee]

at that time I was playing both DOTA1 (wc3) and Dota2 at the same time.Time has changed we are BOOMER now

[@melonusk6120]

played dota seriously omegalul

[@ferentdorian5267]

You should have seen the no nanes Team Spirit win it last year...that was awesome. For 4 of their players it was their first TI abd they played awesome. Magnus was nerfed because of them.

[@chieesn]

12:07 "it was rumored that AM inhaled helium before this match" lmaoooooo, i cantttt

[@trevormartin7740]

These remasters are awesome, not only do they add little facts, but gives us an excuse to watch this great series again..cant wait for the rest and ti10 true sight

[@aitormoreton333]

TI7 was the first tournament that made my interest for esports grow exponentially, and the reason I fell in love with Team Liquid, even though I don't really support them anymore. Much thanks for Valve for putting this together and releasing it, amazing stuff

[@randgriz9967]

Sccc seem to be a really nice guy. Too bad they had to play against TL during their prime.

[@AylmerRanCastiel]

Kaka just ur typical sea players flaming all over the place

[@minhtrinh3646]

They lost to themselves not to TL tbh

[@knkaitlog]

yieah even sccc admit he fvcked up

[@davidgunawan5778]

@@minhtrinh3646 tru they had the lead for quiet awhile during game 2 and game 3

[@SiegeR777]

These mini notes are amazing. As a constant follower of TI and Dota 2 since 2015, I still learn new insights. Thank you who ever though of the idea.

[@Castelloz3]

I remember watching them winning live, and one of the best thing that happened to me. Thanks for the memories guys.

[@seijuroakashi4088]

Ah man Rewatching this makes me feel so sad My boy Miracle deserves to play in every Ti

[@ameralbarkawi7058]

DESERVE IN EVERY TI ? MIRACLUL FANGAY LUL

[@fernandoyuno6968]

I feel just take kuroky as a coach or something just not become player.. he has a good draft but mostly he make Miss play than the other nigma player

[@beyhanf5754]

The spot is earned not given through deserve bs

[@bradsbrad9210]

I think Miracle gonna go to secret or other teams

[@heisenburger6837]

Hard pill to swallow for you guys, Miracle fans. He deserves to play TI but on different team/region. This old nigma stack is having hard time coping up with the current meta. Hence, unable to play two consecutive TI’s and getting outplayed/outfrafted by the teams that understood the meta well.

[@tituswhite3238]

Since 2013 I always wanted to play Dota 2 and hear my name chanted on the main stage of TI. In 2018, I met the most amazing woman and I put my dream up on the shelf because I knew I'd be much happier with her than I ever could playing the game. I've never regretted it, I never will. Watching TI True Sight is the one thing that remains of that dream and I enjoy every second of it :)

[@gobis8637]

We shared the same dream but I wont pursue it I just want to play for fun not competitively. Its also nice to have a team tho the call outs and teamwork playing for years.

[@Bofkaa]

If she was as good a woman as you say she is, she wouldn’t expect you to give up your dream for her. She would encourage and support it. You should also expect her to do that, if you had enough self respect. I’m not trying to be rude, i just don’t want you to give up on something if you truly want it. I have a gf and she fully supports my dreams, as i do to her. Gl buddy.

[@tituswhite3238]

@@Bofkaa first of all you use "were" in the "if she were a ...". Secondly know your place and never say something like that again. I know you weren't trying to be rude, but the fact of the matter is your comment is impertinent and ignorant. Those are just facts

[@emyvemy4884]

1k mmr?

[@Bofkaa]

@@tituswhite3238 I see this struck home, which put forth an emotional response. If you say so buddy, good luck to you!

[@chopstickkober3069]

This Liquid stack will always be my number 1 favorite Dota2 team

[@weileklek.]

TEAM NIGMA LUL

[@jaymzcheong6582]

if only they didnt kick matum, this team gonna be the longest team together in dota history and no team can break this history.

[@elveredo]

@@weileklek. they're not even remotely close

[@Cuidavo]

New Stack is pretty funny as well!

[@anishcharithbhandary4128]

theyre holding, theyre holding, theyre doing it

[@netsgames]

This was great moment of TI7

[@milad-kh892]

i love Kuro and his team ( Nigma ) Deeply , i litteraly cried a littled when they lost the chance of making it to ti 2022 ( and im 29 F*ing years old ) really hope make some changes , make things better , as a huge fan i demand my Favorite team to be on TOP again ( writing this in tears ) i love u Team nigma ♥

[@MuhammadHaseeb4]

I just felt bad for the Newbee. If they had someone like Ceb for motivation rather than arguing about what went bad in games they would have done better.

[@kagen1883]

true tho, the infight just break the momentum they had.

[@jeffreyng5194]

Every chinese teams need people like ceb Their mentality not strong enough expeciallly at TI grand final

[@oxblood1317]

this game and the international, these true sights.. all bring me happy tears.

[@YourManifoldWorld]

True sight always knows how to bring the emotions out...I love it

[@rokusancchi]

Kuro having that consciousness enough during that winning moment to recognise they were the first team to win 3-0 in TI grand finals still amazes me to this day

[@unbecomingdirector2289]

i feel bad for moogy, u can tell he was so disappointed in himself after the 2nd and kaka flaming him made it worse almost made him tear up which imo was a big hit on their morale as a team. ggs all around tho.

[@mikayilahmedoff9875]

Oooooo

[@mikayilahmedoff9875]

Okoo😊ok

[@gasp1gasp1]

What was that? Why flame your teammate?

[@dexteretoy]

i dont feel so bad after they got banned from all valve events because they are betting against their team

[@mitheshmane7494]

Difference between ceb and others..

[@AlanParker202]

4:20 was freaking unexpected

[@mohdsaifulbaharimazland6316]

Thank you, valve. This is the best time to upload this for us, a Nigma fan. Coz I'm able to watch a video where they are actually winning.

[@azmi1185]

my fav ti of all time .. its make me hype to play dota2

[@zelkraps5398]

i can't think of any player that deserves a ti win more than gh, he was such a vital part of the teams sucess so many clutch plays in the tourney as well

[@executor31]

GH is one of the best 4 players

[@yohimbe2673]

The best true sight ever and will never be replace

[@koboldcaballejos1296]

it just show that they are truly humans too, they feel emotional after winning and losing, thats why I really love this game

[@craigmiesterable]

TI7 was a super emotional game for both teams. Every step they took was a lesson they will carry with them for the rest of their life. For the players, for the fans, and especially the game... no other comes remotely close. Proud to be part of this family.

[@ArawnFR]

not sure about this "life lesson"

[@setiadjihw]

Ah I'm crying, 2017 was the best time of Dota for me, every one of my friends played it until late at night, while watching my favorite Liquid lineup playing, and they won TI. Miracle become like Messi in Dota, everyone adore him so much. 2017 is the best year of Dota 🥺

[@levisamom5069]

Don't remind me

[@alvich]

Those moments, forever in my heart

[@aomaom29]

man this is so powerful, huge respect to both team

[@futzs1456]

The best game ever.👍💪😊

[@roczrydaz]

Kuroky really did well and deserved that trophy. He has been doing so much. No hates for the present Kuroky. He is a man with a good heart.

[@rahmat3955]

LETS GOO!!! Incredible Lower Bracket Run

[@hvn23]

23:57 - 24:17 " This elevator took 15 seconds to go up two floors." , " IT WAS THE LONGEST 15 SECONDS IN RECORDED HISTORY" Im dead 😂

[@RealRangerix]

We love truesight

[@ivel5482]

I learned something about dota because of Liquid, I learned something about life because of Newbee.

[@steveklienlloren1735]

no, you learned how to copy paste

[@TheTriPl3KilL]

what i learned was upper bracket is for bitches

[@baphometgod295]

really ? dont you have a live my bro. ohh wait u dont ur ava is anime .

[@beak_essence-]

Blatantly copy pasted the top comment from the other video

[@apurvatrivedi5102]

Oh man

[@Fail460]

the insights on this one were done far better than the other one i think

[@everydaysad9724]

I love this Sccc man, he's so wise and humble

[@temuujinwastaken]

Man, I'm getting pretty similar vibe from TI7 Kuro and KI8-9 Notail. Just no fucks were given, pure passion to compete, pure passion to win. As this was my first TI watched, it's bringing back so much memories.

[@shioriko2201]

I like this remastered, I know more about their history because I'm a 2016 dota player, thanks valve

[@muhamadrizky3975]

What does remastered mean?

[@geraalcht]

@@muhamadrizky3975 Same true sight, but annotated with more context.

[@ethantran5490]

@@clemenoerleanthoneedizon2081 be nice towards newer players pls.

[@roe2012]

Wonderful if not one of the best coverage. *it's been a while*

[@arkarphyomin7636]

Good old days, but now my favorite team is unable to attend the International for 2 straight years. Anyway I will still support them and wish them good luck for the up coming season.❤

[@carlo5322]

The legendary short of matu

[@joshuagabrielrodriguez8488]

really felt so bad for kaka, saw him playing at TI10 always amazes me specially when he plays Lion as 4th position. He's my favorite 4th position player!

[@unholydonuts]

Kaka was brutal but right when he said Moogy being late cost Newbee the Aegis.

[@MKW-oc8fj]

now hes in RNG with the ti8 lgd players xnova, chalice, somnus. Hope they might achieve something this time. still, if they keep this blaming behavior, it will put the team with huge amount of stress in the game. see newbee, not even focusing well on drafting in ti7. and kaka brought up about the roshan of the previous game DURING the drafting. my point is, hes so damn good and skillful. but he must control himself. thats all. patience.

[@glennztein2873]

@@MKW-oc8fj yeah right but their current pos 1 of RNG doesn't have experience playing at high tier team I hope ghost can adopt the chemistry and gameplay

[@deliveryman3060]

toxic king flaming his teammates about game 2 during game 3 draft

[@irrelevant9818]

My fave TI ever

[@mr.G1F]

this the only Team 3-0 their opponents n Grand Finals God damnn 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@minhtrinh3646]

W8 until you see the 4-0 in TI9 ;)

[@anonymousggez294]

Following this stack since 2017. Its really sad to see how they are doing now. I hope they will play like they used to.

[@eetfuk3571]

Kuroky was stuck in this moment of his life. he's not showing any adaptability exact reason of their downfall. he keeps longing on his glory days even though it was already behind him.

[@tuananhphan2612]

The squad that I love and made me happy most!

[@kennethborico8913]

always rooting for this team

[@user-ou4uo2ww3c]

for me dis d best true sight.. my fav players..even now dat they r on d edge of dr career im still rooting for ds guys..

[@mirael1248]

I remember when Broodmother, Viper and Necro was MATUMBAMAN best heroes in this patch which made his hero pool sick.

[@Mranthony1106]

In Chinese culture, it's so difficult to swallow events like defeats and death. They wouldn't want to even talk about it and I think that's why they lost 3 games in a row, they were mentally broken down and you can tell from their conversations. In finals, mental strength probably weighs much more than pure skills, and I see that's how OG won twice in a row

[@zettour.]

Absolutely true. OG mental is like unbreakable. Even Team Liquid, who had Kuro, had their mental broken by OG in TI9 and PSG.LGD collapsed after the 2-2 comeback by OG in TI8. When you have a team like OG who looks like they're winning while down 1-2 or 0-2 or even bottom of groups, what do you do to break them?

[@AlanParker202]

By that logic every Chinese team should lose 3-0

[@azul7806]

This Liquid team was the most loved team from europe! i was all in liquid even when they fall to lower bracket! gg wp, what a memories!

[@msftynm9600]

TI7 Liquid was truly one of a kind. Impossible to draft against with Miracle and Matu 1-2 punch combo and all the cheese strats they got under their sleeves.

[@anbu2794]

The Only 3-0 In a Ti Grand Final 🔥🔥

[@tusk711]

So

[@k0kiss]

OGs 4-0 was way better/s

[@ameralbarkawi6300]

@@k0kiss in TI grand finals ?

[@samanthaperez9672]

@@k0kiss context on 4-0 run in international by Og?

[@feeblemonster8174]

@@k0kiss You ain't making any sense my dude.

[@symphonor]

It has been only 5 years but Matu look 20 years younger.

[@sickofseeingjustsomeguywit8168]

It's been 5 years huh? Feels like 2 ngl

[@athelion_dots3096]

haha xD

[@a2zistoolong448]

That puppey pressure did a load on him.

[@kyrlchristiandomeniqueboni484]

thats what you get when playing with puppy

[@vyperxyz]

love these guys so much man

[@chiragkaushal]

Ty valve i have been a huge exLiquid current Nigma fan to this date! They showed me how dota has a big impact in life.. Nostalgia ❤️

[@givigiviful]

Love Tobiwan's casting so much. I still miss him and his powerful shouts/hype.

[@shirbir120]

Is he in jail?

[@givigiviful]

​@@shirbir120 no idea. He left Dota scene and I cant find his name / news from anywhere ever since. I still hope he'll return somedays but it's really hard..

[@juliovnobre]

@@givigiviful he won’t return, there were serious allegations of sexual assault and while that can be a slippery slope he admitted to accusations and all bridges were burned. Even Synd said he will never associate himself with Tobi again. No chance of coming back.

[@givigiviful]

​@@juliovnobre I know what happened back then, but still..

[@vvekmaringmei7147]

Best TI final for me because of Tobiwan regardless of what he did.... he was n will b the best caster

[@ferentdorian5267]

Agreed

[@hanminkhant7287]

there you can clearly see that everyone misses team Nigma, love Nigma stay strong

[@kentjosephtorrejas6319]

I am Dota Fan Since 2008 and i still Love it

[@jameswatson6111]

One of the best TI run

[@tusk711]

I dont think so

[@socrates1796]

@@tusk711 he is right thoo, it's 3-0

[@jameswatson6111]

@@tusk711 The series againts VP was one of the best. That's my opinion, they have the Best TI run.

[@tusk711]

@@jameswatson6111 Its good against VP but that doesn't mean they have the Best TI Run.

[@faridmuhammad6705]

bro Team spirit had LMAO

[@syahmihazim5640]

I miss Miracle in TI bois...

[@davidramos9674]

he deserves a better team

[@rShubham17]

@@davidramos9674 he needs flexibility like before to switch between both carry and mid role. His prime role should be Mid but also be given as carry when needed.

[@markchristiantan1113]

"Everyone has their own personal journey. This is part of all your journey, So if u want to cry today, cry. Its okay to have a good cry." :((

[@cosmoceratops]

That bit about opening the champagne: it used to happen all the time in Starcraft 2. There was even a novelty Twitter account for the champagne bottle that was only active when Taeja would win an ESL, "we met again my old nemesis," it was great.

[@Aint20]

can't wait for TI8 and TI9 insights

[@MannexX]

I mean, they are kind of already there. The two True Sights from ti8 & 9. They still hold up. Re-watched them last week 😅

[@Tridentus]

CEEEEEEEEEEEB

[@silverberg1634]

September 22th TI8, 23th TI9 , and on 24th is the TI 10 True Sight Premiere

[@SangBediAngler]

TI8 is available . Only TI9 doesn't

[@SangBediAngler]

TI8 is available . Only TI9 doesn't

[@jaelanianton4438]

Jeez... I thought it will be 1 hour, longer than the original. ☹

[@hikkisummers4798]

Is the same video, only this time,, insights are added, which kinda sucks for me. I thought they added some new clips

[@ungabunga345]

@@hikkisummers4798 and the insights make no sense. Why the fuck are they telling us about smog in the air and bacteria in the bathroom?!?

[@yohohogmayhho436]

I miss them this year also. It was best ever 3-0 flawless. I feel really sad.

[@IamRenzx]

Favorite team of all time

[@skixo13]

I understand why he's out, but it has to be said; TobiWan was the best caster this game ever saw.

[@sontop3272]

Fuck Metoo bullshit

[@MannexX]

Agreed. He always elevated the commentary.

[@AlienMax95]

well your bad decisions have consequences...

[@Chickenatron]

odpixel

[@knkaitlog]

he never shouldve been canceled. he didnt even bang her

[@tobeymchades6645]

Man! I miss tobi casting on TI is never the same since he gone.

[@pessiescobar4707]

He's a rapist

[@feeblemonster8174]

ODpixel did a good job i feel.

[@EdilbertFernando]

26:42 - Actually it was Gh's first TI too and he won

[@nyoken9048]

very nice, what a feeling and emotions. too bad nigma didnt qualifier for ti11, still one of my favorites

[@ayh4ng]

no matter how , team liquid /nigma still my favourite team!

[@mooblu8837]

So sad twice in a row now NO TI, Kuro shld keep up with the new standard Dota drafts and plays and Sumail 1st time no Ti

[@eetfuk3571]

@@mooblu8837 Kuroky still living from the past. he hasn't moved on since they clapped Newbie. Kuroky still has a lot of games to play but he's choosing not to evolve as a player and as a competitor.

[@popopopotskii]

"You expect to win a championship at your first TI?" Topson: Hold my beer

[@reynaldykwok6954]

Make it twice in a row😎

[@renzmarquez336]

GH: Hold my beer too

[@ahmadjuwaidi5271]

Sumail did it before

[@dibo458]

Haram brother. ☝️🤣

[@real_kokon]

What a great documentary

[@Tani_D]

A masterpiece

[@prime1141]

kpii in his prime time.

[@reynaldopanji2066]

He still in his prime time

[@dibo458]

He is good guy. Wish he win TI

[@kf_isher1149]

he’s still really good

[@tyuuta7377]

26:44 editor is roasting

[@igelowksy3131]

I swear this was my last year of playing dota and I was rooting for kuro since navi days and when he got it I was so proud of my boy! I was at my peak aswell having 5001 mmr. after a long hiatus, I'm finally back playing dota and I cant escape guardian rank LOL

[@seidenstickerj]

I feel so bad for Newbee man they were so good and this series just crushed them, sccc especially was never the same afterwards

[@streamidexe]

IYD bestt player dota in the word

[@ginomer1232]

yes iyd, get it 🤣

[@HM-rk4in]

Shittest player in the universe

[@kenesulai]

Love him or hate him , tobiwan is one of the , if not , best casters in the whole of esports . Shitty moves he made but I love his castings

[@pestilence4965]

The accusation was fake though.

[@maxedoutbeing3239]

@@pestilence4965 source: trust me bro

[@noof666]

@@pestilence4965 source?

[@sam9239]

@@pestilence4965 But he admitted it though lol

[@seanchina9902]

@@pestilence4965 man you gotta provide sources for that. And if its true why isn't he back? I'd love him back to casting dotes.

[@majuseo]

Seeing Kuroky cry made me cry again for the second time.

[@skyuudarchieve51]

The only true sight has less than 1 hours GG liquid era love u

[@fargranthgodfrey5080]

please bring back kaci this year:(.

[@roardinoson7]

I miss Kaci, TobiWan, Merlini... sadge

[@ashishnair9927]

I thik kaci had a baby that’s why she went on a break

[@marcandrewgonzaga3973]

@@roardinoson7 and redeye too

[@bergerman487]

"You expect to win a championship at your first Ti?" Chadson: Hello there.

[@psychpsych5086]

you're just a man, not a god.

[@ahmadjuwaidi5271]

Sumail did it before

[@LMAO-zi7xe]

Sumail: Hello

[@glenvictororong5749]

It is also GH's first TI tho

[@hi_jo_suevelasco2806]

Nah, 4 players of TI10 champion did it to.

[@_Reap9r_]

More videos like this,the facts are so interesting

[@iszmash13th40]

Man. How we all wish a resurgence from Team Nigma after the nostalgia of watching this short film. Feels worse that Matumbaman retired.

[@cabbage_cat]

19:45 playing in windowed screen, on trial windows KEKL

[@Kai-or5xx]

28:29 Miracle: That's why you are BALD. 🤣🤣🤣 Best moment.

[@arashdarek]

Cast is amazing

[@d.a.cgamingchanel4986]

even now, when they look back that match. They all knows may have some mistake from move, from the way they playback. But in viewer, they are always the best teams ever. respect !!!

[@ameralbarkawi7058]

" Stop think about winning " So how long Kuroky command his team stop think about winning ?

[@happyst719]

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

[@ButterNCreamz]

Lmao

[@malikiidris3537]

Bruh💀

[@wanman6379]

The only piece missing for Nigma rn is literally Matumbaman and his lucky shorts :(

[@ferentdorian5267]

They fucked up when they kicked him from the roaster

[@fadhilahabdulgani1547]

Heen is also missing

[@okcool8576]

They literally placed second at Ti9 with w33 idk what you're on

[@geraalcht]

@@ferentdorian5267 Short memory bro. Why do you think they kicked Matu? Because they started underperforming as a team.

[@geraalcht]

@@okcool8576 Exactly. Just because OG dismantled them in the finals doesn't invalidate everything that they achieved. They 2-0 EG and Secret and had a close match with LGD to get to the grand finals.

[@cychong10]

I like the fun fact keep popping out

[@rijalhaidar2783]

still be my favorite