Biggest Mistake You Can Make with Tuning in WZ 2.0... Stop Ruining Your Class (MWII & DMZ)

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@TrueGameData
@TrueGameData 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think it is a pretty cool system, I just wish we had some information about what was actually happening. Maybe soon! Thanks for watching, don't forget to sub, like, and comment if you appreciate the work!
@joshw0078
@joshw0078 2 жыл бұрын
appreciate you man just wish you had some sort of backup game bc at rate cod is going you'll either not want anything to do with it or everyone else will be done with the game
@FEWGEE1
@FEWGEE1 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't hold your breath. This is Infinity Ward..
@TonyJustSavkin
@TonyJustSavkin 2 жыл бұрын
I am starting to believe that lack of information and numbers inside the game is a deliberate choice to force community to search for answers themselves and thus increase their investment and involvement into the game, thanks for your work
@pricklycatsss
@pricklycatsss 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think it just complicates the game more than necessary. And you can't even save a gun class in this game which makes it ridiculously inconvenient to experiment.
@onearmedwolf6512
@onearmedwolf6512 2 жыл бұрын
I admire your positive outlook lol. No chance infinity ward gives us information on how tuning works. They hide all of the guns stats behind inaccurate Stat bars. They add hidden stats to attachments, thry are one of the least transparent devs ive ever seen.
@PattycakesGaming
@PattycakesGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Busting out matlab to analyze complicated weapon reticle behavior in a video game makes my engineering heart very happy
@adameaszy7879
@adameaszy7879 2 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see a fellow guardian in the comments section
@SeraphProtocol
@SeraphProtocol 2 жыл бұрын
Arent you supposed to be abusing the next Destiny 2 Meta or going AGAINST it?
@atakancambaz7672
@atakancambaz7672 2 жыл бұрын
FAST FOURIER TRANSFORM LETS GOOO
@byLags
@byLags 2 жыл бұрын
GUARDIAN! Glad to see you in TGDs comments! Real recognize real!
@romareybrown9804
@romareybrown9804 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way
@Afreti
@Afreti 2 жыл бұрын
Jev gave you a shout in his recent video about how good you are at what you do. I don't play Warzone but I found this pretty informative and pretty fucking impressive. Like holy shit.
@housemusicallnitelon
@housemusicallnitelon 2 жыл бұрын
You're such a fucking legend man. The way you analyse this stuff is really unique in this space and provides genuinely useful information for the community. Thanks Tony.
@OrangeJuicePapi
@OrangeJuicePapi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dan_Yerlll Amen. Jgod uses TGD to make his videos. can’t even compare the 2.
@ABKATSOR22
@ABKATSOR22 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I’ve been telling my buddies. I generally find that you want to move the slider to like 70-90% of the desired direction, and I mostly tune using the visual map. It is frustrating that I have no idea if that visual map actually maps onto the reality of the gun stats. CoD has been notorious about lying with the visual stat bars lmao. But until people like you and data miners get down to the nitty gritty of it, it’s all I have to go on. It’s good to know that your findings support that I’ve been on the right track.
@utewbd
@utewbd 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've noticed the tuning sweet spots for most attachments tend to be within ~25-30% of the ends or ~15% within the center.
@RedDwarfCruz
@RedDwarfCruz 2 жыл бұрын
You can see it in the map if you move the slider at a certain point you will see the other stats start moving slightly. But they should really give us a % on the stats. Also the blueprints give a hint that it isn't as simple as max slider. Instead they are Expert tuned
@gabrield.5709
@gabrield.5709 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I have no clue why they didn’t keep cold wars way of doing it with actual stats and stat changes
@jonthebasedgod3417
@jonthebasedgod3417 2 жыл бұрын
idk if you’ve ever seen cod mobile’s stat screen or not but i wish they’d just do that. they have all the ads times, exact damage numbers with drop off ranges, and even a picture of a dummy that shows you each weapons multipliers for different parts of the body. it’s a shame that triple a titles can’t get that kinda love Edit: forgot to mention you can actually compare multiple guns with attachments as well all on the same screen
@NkFlw
@NkFlw 2 жыл бұрын
Correct, the lack of data kills me. Why can't the developers just provide the raw data for the game adjusters, if you are going to get so intricate with the amount of detail in the customization department, then SHOW ME HOW IT WORKS!
@andrewth
@andrewth 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the complicated and time consuming work you put in to make these videos. Keep it up bro
@ZoydGaming
@ZoydGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a "TrueGameData Tuned" stamp on some weapon builds. I would definitely try those out since I know you've gone through the trouble of proving its tuned as best as possible!
@TrueGameData
@TrueGameData 2 жыл бұрын
Someday!
@jamiehalfkin5813
@jamiehalfkin5813 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrueGameData hopefully sooner than later my dude lol
@bassimprovjams3772
@bassimprovjams3772 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrueGameDatalet’s get it! I’d definitely try them out! I bet you could get the Doc and the other pro gamers using your builds
@obaniehia
@obaniehia Жыл бұрын
as cool as that'd be think about it. to get the peak performance you'd have to get the 5 attachments up and do minor adjustments to only slider at a time, then go back and to minor tweaks from the start and repeat the process. but still love the depth of the builds now, clean break away from cookie cutter builds.
@mash2481
@mash2481 2 жыл бұрын
I think I speak for everyone when I say, You’re the CoD community’s Hero!!
@WeylandLabs
@WeylandLabs 2 жыл бұрын
He just helps the developers understand there job more. Reason why they released it - they cant do everything.
@AzzurroWolf
@AzzurroWolf 2 жыл бұрын
@@WeylandLabs LOL yeah, must be hard for a small indy company like Activision to do their jobs...
@WeylandLabs
@WeylandLabs 2 жыл бұрын
@@AzzurroWolf Your sarcasm is pretty funny, just because they are huge doesn't mean they dont cut corners like Walmart and Amazon, Apple and Tesla. They release a game that's 50% done then let youtubers and players find the bugs. Why because they can pay for a semi complete game with great marketing and players will still pay for it until laws prohibite them from doing it. You just have to learn how corporate America thinks now. The shareholders *Microsoft* well - just understand that they will continue to keep doing this forever.
@beaunerjams16
@beaunerjams16 2 жыл бұрын
I love the tuning idea. As you said, I wish they had been a bit more transparent about what was actually being changed and how much. I do appreciate you doing the testing to show the differences in stock vs. tuned for ADS Move speed etc. Doesn't seem like they'll be OP but I do like the ability to make them slightly better for each person's play style.
@wickedways1291
@wickedways1291 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in my 60's. A former combat Marine who plays "Invasion." This was wicked information and I appreciate your time. Thank you
@miralaubscher3717
@miralaubscher3717 Жыл бұрын
Here is your attention. Take it.
@wickedways1291
@wickedways1291 Жыл бұрын
@@miralaubscher3717 And the c*nt speaks too. Fascinating.
@schvanz7612
@schvanz7612 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god you out this video out today! This morning I was re-tuning my attachments on the Lachmann 556 and saw a strange pattern while tuning the 15.9” RAPP barrel - The slider moves between ADS and Damage Range, however, if you watch the values depicted you realize that when you slide between -0.20 and -0.26 towards better ADS there’s actually point where your ADS gets worse rather than better in the handling category despite what the slider target is telling you is supposed to happen. Thought I was losing my mind for a minute there. Lol Love the videos! Thanks again for making me realize I’m not insane!
@ownage11445
@ownage11445 2 жыл бұрын
Noticed this with recoil control and stabilization. On some attachments especially barrels the recoil can be worse if you decide to trade aim walking for more recoil stabilization.
@jarjarbongs69
@jarjarbongs69 2 жыл бұрын
Massive respect. Your videos are the best and most informative in this space, bar none. No BS, endless detail, commitment to rigour, can't get any better than that. Thanks for all the hard work!
@yeetgrenade7492
@yeetgrenade7492 2 жыл бұрын
walking speed includes both. certain attachments say "hip walking speed" or "aim walking speed"
@onearmedwolf6512
@onearmedwolf6512 2 жыл бұрын
Thats actually a good point. Didnt even think of it that way.
@WeylandLabs
@WeylandLabs 2 жыл бұрын
That why there is a comment section - also ... if you mid max the tune with a perk to increase the gun, the more its pretty solid ! Try the MCPR-300 Mid Maxed - then have focused ! You'll thank me later ! 👍
@MarkOfAHero
@MarkOfAHero 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, amazing revelation. Insane how the stats bars have always sort of "lied" in previous CoDs, but the tuning graphic might actually be more visually accurate. You're a king for finding this out.
@Pablo081
@Pablo081 2 жыл бұрын
I had noticed how the graph moved - sometimes it would make a huge jump, then small ones, even getting worse sometimes. The way I tune is I move the slider in the direction I want and see if there's a big jump at some point. If there are no more big jumps, I try to leave it just past the big jump so as to not affect the other stats too much. Once in a while, you get a big increase in one area and big decrease in another (usually recoil/ADS) and you just have to make the choice. Also helpful to go to the firing range after each tune to see if there's any noticeable difference.
@colorzFX
@colorzFX 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, you'd have to do this for every attachment first, tuning one attachment at a time does not make a noticeable difference most of the time. You can barely notice changes around 5-10%.
@sevenyz_
@sevenyz_ 2 жыл бұрын
Read about tuning having a sweet point somewhere in the youtube comments, now we finally have confirmation from the G. Thanks for all your work
@crash_jj
@crash_jj 2 жыл бұрын
Man IW just love their hidden stats, I noticed this with the graphs as well but wasn't sure if it was a quirk of the game display or genuinely reflective of measurable difference. Thanks for all the hard work you did to confirm that because I wouldn't even know where to start to figure most of that out
@taywazo
@taywazo 2 жыл бұрын
I like it. Makes it harder to figure out a meta therefore causes way more guns to be used
@pricklycatsss
@pricklycatsss 2 жыл бұрын
@@taywazo the guns are decently balanced in this game though I feel like I can use anything and do at least decent unless I'm in one of those Saturday night lobbies lol
@kinmaul160
@kinmaul160 2 жыл бұрын
@@taywazo All this does is obscure the information from casual players. Eventually the values will be data mined and then you'll need to go to 3rd party sites to see what is really happening.
@kenet362
@kenet362 2 жыл бұрын
@@kinmaul160Casuals are the absolute last people that would be looking for proper stats
@kinmaul160
@kinmaul160 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenet362 If the numbers were built right into the game and displayed as you made your changes it would be impossible to avoid. Casuals might not come up with meta builds, but they could at least make informed choices. We already know the bar graphs from IW are worthless.
@bodkin7841
@bodkin7841 Жыл бұрын
Haven't had to use much matlab since school, been doing stress work in aerospace (finite element stuff). Respect dude, brings me back and you are way better at it haha
@-Armani
@-Armani 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate what you do for the community bro, it doesn't go unnoticed!
@vSwampFox
@vSwampFox 2 жыл бұрын
Terrific video. The most important part of this video was when you actually showed, that adding 100% of the tune value, does not take into account the curve value added to the slider (as it's tuned)! Liked, Subscribed.
@nelsonbutcher1
@nelsonbutcher1 2 жыл бұрын
Suddenly 10 attachments doesn't seem like such a big deal.
@pricklycatsss
@pricklycatsss 2 жыл бұрын
Until you remember that you can't save classes in this game so you have re-tune your gun every single time you make a class 🤦‍♂️ I don't even have time to bother with tuning sometimes I only have an hour to play and don't feel like spending 10% of that time on bullshit
@th1rt3nth
@th1rt3nth 2 жыл бұрын
@@pricklycatsss if you have an hour to play, and you have 10 custom classes, you need to tune them once to keep you busy for at least a week or two.
@mannyk7100
@mannyk7100 2 жыл бұрын
@@pricklycatsss Yeah it's super frustrating. I can't believe they overlooked such a basic feature that was present in the previous modern warfare
@onearmedwolf6512
@onearmedwolf6512 2 жыл бұрын
@@th1rt3nth i think he was in agreement with you
@6MVG
@6MVG 2 жыл бұрын
@@pricklycatsss facts and not even that, even now and then the gun feels like they tweak with it. As if the game has weird mechanics as always, and noticed that guns naked or just with the 3 attachments lost people like: red dot, suppressor, forge grip
@AestheticLegend176
@AestheticLegend176 2 жыл бұрын
Am actually glad that I was doing this before you mentioned it because I see the graph change as I move the slider and most of the time some putting it at a certain point would have the graph have a better change than just moving it all the way to the side.
@michaelb3554
@michaelb3554 2 жыл бұрын
I started following your channel 2 years ago to figure out the best attachments in warzone, I’m an engineering student currently taking my experimentation class so now I click on your videos to see the amount of effort you put into collecting and analyzing the data 😂
@nowhereman6360
@nowhereman6360 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I like information easily explained. But warzone somehow thinks a wall of silence with no real explanations works best for everyone while they not even know how sliders should work. ^^
@evanarnold3663
@evanarnold3663 2 жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned it, but I’m also here from Jev’s video. I had no idea how much more intricately detailed these breakdowns would be vs. ace or another in depth cod creator. This shit is deep DEEP. Seriously impressive, my guy. Easy sub from me
@godo-techno
@godo-techno 2 жыл бұрын
once again, can't help but thank you for the efforts put in! I would never go that far into testing myself, but I'm very grateful that I can still benefit from such testing through you. A Million thank you brother
@scottjohnson8600
@scottjohnson8600 2 жыл бұрын
The aim sway makes perfect sense. As having the ripper grip is always going to give you better sway control than not having one. So although you're tuning away some of the extra sway control it will never be less than the default gun.
@j.d.p.
@j.d.p. 2 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't, Tony's base here is the attachment with no tuning (so it already has the improved aim stability as the reference point). Sliding the tuner to 'less aim stability' gives you more aiming stability than the default attachment, which is the thing that's nonsensical. In this current system you're not tuning away any of your extra stability, you're gaining more
@tomshines5389
@tomshines5389 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely insane amount of patience and work bro... I wish everyone understood the complexity of the tests you're performing. You NEED to be paid significantly for this kind of work. You are basically reverse engineering what a team of expert game developers created with no map or key... Insane! Keep it up if you can but if you can't I TOTALLY feel you!
@kanyereeves8003
@kanyereeves8003 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the work you put in Tony. You the real G.
@gameaholic408
@gameaholic408 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing all the dirty work to help all of us all out. Thank you Tony! When I was tuning I was finding the sweet spots, don't go all the way to the end of the slider. Watch and see where the stats more, sometimes .17 or .26 was better than the end. Gonna be some sneaky tweaks to find the best stats
@gameaholic408
@gameaholic408 2 жыл бұрын
Where stats move* 😁
@ChiefBangarang
@ChiefBangarang 2 жыл бұрын
I can tell you enjoy figuring these things out Tony because It shows In these flawless results! Always appreciate ya man!🤝
@orionizaqt
@orionizaqt 2 жыл бұрын
What you could do to test the linearity thing is maybe to just pick a stat to check, like ADS speed for example, and test a weapon with all 5 attachments tuned all the way to the ADS speed side, then test the same weapon with the attachments all tuned where the handling stat seems to be peaking on the chart and see if there's a noticeable difference. Would be interesting to find out.
@jacobfield4848
@jacobfield4848 2 жыл бұрын
Tuning. = The negative is worse than the positive.
@kitanesenpai2186
@kitanesenpai2186 2 жыл бұрын
the only channel that makes me write a comment just to help it out in however small way i can, because tony deserves it with all the work he is putting in.
@KillaCamTron
@KillaCamTron 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard a lot of talk about how guns are better naked. I wonder how much of an impact tuning to negate negatives would have vs tuning for strengths/no attachment. Appreciate the content Tone!
@mdv_83
@mdv_83 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly cant use the weapons without a sight, for me it's a must. but u hear the same thing... you don't need all 5 slots used to make it a very competitive weapon
@KillaCamTron
@KillaCamTron 2 жыл бұрын
@@mdv_83 for sure, but my thought is if you take an attachment and focus on tuning to scale back the negatives, while potentially getting less of a benefit that attachment would normally offer, do you end up with better stats than no attachment? Or if I want better ads, am I better off focusing on attachments that don't hurt my ads and tuning to be snappier than taking ads attachments cause I'll have less negatives?
@invisalats841
@invisalats841 2 жыл бұрын
They aren't better naked. Mobility is better naked. They went a little overboard with mobility penalties for attachments. I set up the AK ripoff for recoil control without tuning, and it was basically a laser, but you had no real ads movement, and all movement is penalized. Great if you want to camp and peek out windows all match, not so great if you are not in a building or on a rooftop. I mean, I don't want realism, but it is a complete fantasy world to have attachments give such high penalties. Also, ads speed is an issue as well when using recoil control attachments. So you basically choose between having attachments to make it easier to hit the target or not having more attachments to have decent ads time and movement ability. My setup had a longer ads time than most snipers lol. Also the whole leveling and unlocking gunsmith system is annoying as heck and time consuming. They actually managed to make it more annoying than leveling the new Meta gun in wz after vanguard dropped.
@stompingpeak2043
@stompingpeak2043 2 жыл бұрын
Tuning makes them kill faster. I know people say that's not true but if I tune a mp5 nd use one with no attachments guess what one is better. The tuned one kills in like a bullet less
@tshouk1848
@tshouk1848 2 жыл бұрын
@@stompingpeak2043 did u tried on the shooting range aiming for upperchest and doing shots ? cause it may be only in your head because u changed it and hope for something xd
@nrw510
@nrw510 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't wait for you to drop this video I tried to explain to my friends how maxing out the slider didn't always give the best stat on the built in graph!
@steve6321
@steve6321 2 жыл бұрын
Your hard work is greatly appreciated! Thank you so much for the information!
@HillbillyJedi88
@HillbillyJedi88 2 жыл бұрын
Talk about in depth. You've got more here than the MNF hosts do. The numbers are interesting but the visual when moving the slide bars was enough for me. Gonna revisit this on my tunes and see where they are. Thanks for the tips!
@djabouty47
@djabouty47 2 жыл бұрын
Come on dude. Why is IW so stubborn lmao. No actual data values and now there's also hidden data values too. A free to play mobile game has the quality of life features that we want in our $100+ AAA produced game.
@thejworks07
@thejworks07 2 жыл бұрын
They just don't want people telling people the one gun to use out of the 50 in the game kinda takes away from the game
@rajs4719
@rajs4719 2 жыл бұрын
Was trying to make a gun earlier and I had like 4 attachments that did the exact same thing. I'm so confused in this gunsmith 😂
@eclark9965
@eclark9965 2 жыл бұрын
The game is 60 dollars and other than a few stability problems offers several ways to play. Your parents didn’t discipline you did they
@BobbyDigMOB
@BobbyDigMOB 2 жыл бұрын
It was the same way in mw19 tbh
@latinaparfait
@latinaparfait 2 жыл бұрын
@@eclark9965 62IQ
@thepolishcannon
@thepolishcannon 2 жыл бұрын
I was suspecting something along these lines but you quantified it. I noticed how certain things would wiggle when tuning, I think you have tapped into how to properly tune an attachment. Amazing work as always man!
@jeremyroberts8822
@jeremyroberts8822 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they gave us all the stats for the attachments like they did in Cold War and vanguard. It was cool how you could look at the numbers and see exactly what each attachment was affecting and by how much
@anthonyharmon3166
@anthonyharmon3166 Жыл бұрын
I like the nuances found by tuning. Like the eye distance for optics changes the guns pivot point, your muzzle sways slower or faster as the pivot point is moved forward or backwards. Lets you tune really well to your wrist flick
@bubico666
@bubico666 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn`t it make sense to be this way? i mean, if you put an attachment that has "reduce aim sway + ADS for example, it will help the gun with those 2 stats no matter where you drag the tuning bar. it just makes one stat better depending where you drag it. My 2 cents. cool video and the sway nr. are amazing! very clever
@Aragao95
@Aragao95 2 жыл бұрын
its not ''no attachment vs tuned attachment" its "attachment not tuned vs attachment tuned" thats what I got
@NathCraft27
@NathCraft27 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome work! This really drives the point that they need to provide the information on what is actually happening when you put on attachments because there's no way a regular player will understand all of this just through normal gameplay.
@hartlasgames
@hartlasgames 2 жыл бұрын
I've been tuning my weapons by taking the slider towards the stat that I want until the graph spikes for that stat, but before it takes away from the other stat. lt seems to have led to some pretty good builds for me
@joshw0078
@joshw0078 2 жыл бұрын
Yep I actually noticed how the sliders have diff points near the middle of each side where you usually reach peak stats
@AdonnysPichardo
@AdonnysPichardo 2 жыл бұрын
Let's talk data. I've dabbled a good bit tuning attachments and noticed what you pointed out regarding nonlinearity. Since we can't save blueprints yet, I've been writing down tunes for some guns in a little notebook and can share some of that data for you to test against weapons with the same attachments non-tuned.
@brandonbury3375
@brandonbury3375 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed this a few, thought about it, then decided I was stupid cuz cuz the "pros" went far left or right. This is ridiculously complex. Great video
@timrodeike1633
@timrodeike1633 2 жыл бұрын
TTK is so fast, tuning seems a bit senseless xD
@cipherpac
@cipherpac 2 жыл бұрын
Cannot wait for a huge TGD weapon tuning omnibus video going over the data mined numbers when they come out
@houseofhoon
@houseofhoon 2 жыл бұрын
Weapon tuning is confusing on purpose to make them more money. How you say? They are leaving the Weapon Tuning a mystery so they can make superior Blueprints tuned with their developer knowledge, and then sell them in the store or stick them on the battlepass. Notice how all the battlepass/blueprint weapons are "Pro Tuned", but you can't examine the tuning? Yeah, they're hiding that info on purpose so you can't see the tuning sliders and then re-create that weapon tune without paying for the blueprint or the battlepass. If you want the tune, pull out your wallet and buy it. Just another way to monetize every aspect of your Call of Duty experience.
@nerdedkyle3515
@nerdedkyle3515 2 жыл бұрын
You sir are a mad man tony and we all love it thank you so much. 10 years from now we gonna see TGD school of COD tuning :)
@beefr0mi105
@beefr0mi105 2 жыл бұрын
If it is not linear there will be an inflection point where there is an optimal setting. We use this in business for many thing. Example, using finding the I flex room point of a function for marketing budget to protect or customer return based on initial budget! Great job man!
@mikeaumph6554
@mikeaumph6554 2 жыл бұрын
Great job this is a good baseline for weapon tuning. You can tune each attachment based on the minute movements, you figuring out that it is nonlinear is clutch.
@IceCold8100
@IceCold8100 2 жыл бұрын
The slider being all the way toward "worse aim sway" but still being better than default aim sway actually makes some sense and definitely isn't an error: If you read the "Pros" section of the FTAC Ripper, "Aiming Idle Stability" is listed as a "Pro" which indicates that the attachment provides that benefit when it is equipped. If you could tune that benefit completely away then it would effectively defeat one of the purposes of that attachment. It wouldn't make sense to equip an attachment that supposedly helps reduce "aim sway" or "recoil" but then you "tune" it to do the exact opposite thing that it was designed to do. It wouldn't really be "tuning" in that case anymore and would make balancing incredibly difficult for the devs. Attachments still need to function as they were intended, tuning just gives you the opportunity to adjust how much your pros and cons scale. We don't get to just completely remove the pros and cons of equipping attachments. Great video btw. Very insightful!
@hoochhk2509
@hoochhk2509 2 жыл бұрын
Such an incredibly intricate system and they purposefully keep it convoluted to keep players in the dark. They should’ve had a ViDoc or two about this system. Doing the good work for the people TGD!
@chandlerwagner9090
@chandlerwagner9090 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so dope to see what this looked like back in the day and see what your process is like now and more importantly, how it’s being received by consumers. You’ve got guys that don’t even play WZ out here watching the videos because the work is so fucking impressive for anybody who likes data and analysis. I’m out here sweating WZ but this type of recognition is even more awesome to see than the answers we’re getting. Appreciate you Tony. Y’all go gold sub TGD
@HighHatOG
@HighHatOG 2 жыл бұрын
I actually noticed this earlier today when I was tuning my weapon. You would think when you move the slider all the way to one way, the graph would move linearly towards linearly towards the corresponding part of the graph but noticed it moving up and down depending on how far you adjust the slider but not necessarily relative to that point in the slider.
@oof1dafzoubhoisue
@oof1dafzoubhoisue 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of stuff that gets sickos like me going lol Thank you
@advf1
@advf1 2 жыл бұрын
GRatz on this amazing work. I actually like "curves" and no linearity on attachments. These may lead to more personal taste and custom builds, and you wont feel gimped by not following a super meta 1:1 copy build from a pro.
@SamSam-ih6nt
@SamSam-ih6nt 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@dewayneholley8371
@dewayneholley8371 Жыл бұрын
Man you do great work. i was tuning and noticing the sliders and the top graph moving back and forth as well. i am i sub and i gladly pay for TGD its awesome. I cant say enough good things about what you do for everyone. Thank you Tony.
@brettleben1528
@brettleben1528 Жыл бұрын
You are correct and pro tuned gun sales are the reason its so customized.
@StandFirmInJC
@StandFirmInJC 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for making this video. I was so confused at first. I figured out alot of this just by playing. lots of time in shooting range. but basically sliding it all the way isn't the best choice. I did all this through feel and shooting and shooting but weapon tuning is pretty complex. thanks again it was good to see some numbers even if I didnt understand them.
@stargavstar
@stargavstar 2 жыл бұрын
I will re-watch this when it's not 1:30am and I've been running endless shoot houses haha! Thanks Tony!
@HankScorpio86
@HankScorpio86 2 жыл бұрын
The non-linearity of the scales is confounding, like what were they thinking lol. Thank you for your hard work on this.
@juancarloshernandez4212
@juancarloshernandez4212 2 жыл бұрын
Glad that you’re always here checking the attachments and collect data for evidence you’re a true goat! MW2 was designed for casuals by nerfing movement to the ground and then they go and make a complex weapon tuning system that literally only caters to sweats makes no sense lol
@maxelito7590
@maxelito7590 2 жыл бұрын
a cool thing they could do is for example the forgrip, like the more you drag it to lets say like LEFT SIDE that will change the visuals where the forgrip is placed on the barrel. great vid man!, keep it up :)
@labombaromba
@labombaromba 2 жыл бұрын
Wow some crazy findings! Thanks for all the hard work you do. One take away I have is I think it's cool that the in-game visual representation for tuning is actually somewhat accurate in representing how it doesn't change linearly, even if it doesn't present all the information in the clear fashion we want it. Should provide a good starting point for optimizing tunes.
@Handlepotatos
@Handlepotatos 2 жыл бұрын
You must have a background in signal processing/control theory, it’s really funny seeing someone do matlab signal analysis on call of duty. Keep up the great work man
@Nightmare200X
@Nightmare200X 2 жыл бұрын
Your approach to this makes me so happy coming from DSP and Statistics. Keep on doing this, it's awesome.
@valderja
@valderja 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your efforts Tony. I can imagine testing with this new tuning function is way more involved than just comparing different attachments.
@ASimpleInternetUser
@ASimpleInternetUser 2 жыл бұрын
Not enough fellow nerds play Call of Duty. Players that want to get as good as they can be need to know this kind of stuff. Knowledge is power. Thank you for going over this. Maybe a future video with some recommendations and demonstrations of different attachments with their tunings?
@icus3683
@icus3683 2 жыл бұрын
Omg. You are the GOAT. The details in your work👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@mooshwoop
@mooshwoop 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew so much work went into this stuff! You're doing the Lord's work here, man
@telmo2430
@telmo2430 2 жыл бұрын
Goat, your testing methods are transcendent.. Dang bro! You did put you heart and soul indeed, as always
@immerdk
@immerdk 2 жыл бұрын
It's waaaay to complicated considering they've left out any tangible numbers. Without people like you doing this testing we would have to tune them "by touch", which is kind of unrealistic considering the amount of possible combinations. Love the fact that you're using things like FFT to add even more detail to your analysis. The more numbers and data the better. Keep it up!
@bassimprovjams3772
@bassimprovjams3772 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine using your weapon and rank double XP and getting lost in tuning band wasting your double XP
@chrislin5588
@chrislin5588 2 жыл бұрын
7:35 you go super saiyan 3! You're a beast not many have the ability to articulate these stats!
@KNOWFATE
@KNOWFATE 2 жыл бұрын
AMAZING video. For a guy who does a lot of gun builds on my channel this info is so crucial so thank you so much. I noticed from day 1 that, by looking at the graph, you can tell some funny stuff happens as you move the sliders and they didn't appear to be linear. But as it's COD I wasn't sure if these were actually real effects taking place, now we know. Thanks man. I'll give credit this video/TGD when referencing it my content as always. I think it's a good system, leaves a lot of playing around and really gives emphasis to those spending the time to tune properly.
@ImInfinix
@ImInfinix 2 жыл бұрын
grateful that someone went through and did the work for these numbers. thankyou for that! Impressive work
@troublesome07
@troublesome07 2 жыл бұрын
You're the man.. Thanks for this. I was wondering what the hell was going on with these values. It looks like there still isn't a foolproof "formula" to understand, but at least we have some idea now.
@darthyoda501
@darthyoda501 2 жыл бұрын
Remember the good ol days of cod when we had a choice between red dot sight, silencer or acog lol
@pooyadadashi7742
@pooyadadashi7742 Жыл бұрын
Actually u giving this informations for free is kinda insane, these calculations and hours of “not fun” games are mind blowing , srsly tnx a lot man ❤❤❤
@bassimprovjams3772
@bassimprovjams3772 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Some intense information! Thank you! I had to watch it multiple times to understand any of it lol, some great work you put into this for us! I agree they need to come out and make a in-depth video on it
@Tinfoiltomcat
@Tinfoiltomcat 2 жыл бұрын
Try Increasing your recording buffer or double check your cables and ports for the mic issues if you haven't yet. Great info too straight to the point thank you
@Warmongere
@Warmongere 2 жыл бұрын
This was crazy informative. Didn’t expect this big a of a breakdown when I clicked on your video.
@costapinguin
@costapinguin 2 жыл бұрын
TGD is such an underrated channel. Same as the work that it's put together from Tony to present all this true game data. Really hope that at some point people will not just appreciate the work but also the quality of info he shares. Really hope the channel gets more attention. Thanks for the info Tony!
@bubzwubz1572
@bubzwubz1572 2 жыл бұрын
Tuning feels like cooking without measuring tools/cups. A little bit of this and a little bit of that. Lol, thanks for making it understandable.
@phillip4buckeyes4life
@phillip4buckeyes4life 2 жыл бұрын
I swear TGD is the reason why they did this weapon tuning. You are amazing sir thank you!
@IfthiAli
@IfthiAli 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice is instead of sliders, bars and graphs, we just got raw numbers, then again I wouldn't want you out of business. This is so helpful .
@evanpaverdick3298
@evanpaverdick3298 Жыл бұрын
Nice work it confirms I'm not wasting my time in the firing range tweeking
@brennanIX
@brennanIX 2 жыл бұрын
I figured this was the case, and noticed it while tuning barrel length. In reality, there are diminishing returns, and there is sort of a sweet spot. For example, a barrel length on a 5.56 AR-15 of 16 inches is pretty decent. It's not too long, but you still aren't losing that much velocity from the optimal 20 inch length. If you go in reverse, you still get gains beyond 20 inches, but anything above that, and the amount of velocity increase is starts becoming miniscule, and you are just making the gun more unwieldy and bulkier. I mean from a sitting bench rest position, you could basically min max for optimal ballistics, but for real world use, the gains you get with diminishing returns just aren't worth the the drawbacks you get from making a barrel too long or too short, and the +/- difference in velocity isn't linear to barrel length. Too long, and you barely gain additional velocity, too short and your velocity starts taking a quick nosedive, but there's a sweet spot in between like 14.5 to 20 inches. And yes, I know there's people running like 9 inch, but it defeats the purpose of having a rifle caliber firearm. Anything below like 10.3 is just a novelty, and you might as well use a different caliber more suited to that barrel length. Ballistic performance and the optimization of firearms is WAY more complex than many people think.
@JoecifLeStrange
@JoecifLeStrange 2 жыл бұрын
Ignoring all the other vids till this dude speaks the truth. Thanks as ever mate - doing CODs work
@AzzurroWolf
@AzzurroWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video dude. I had a feeling they would do something like this. It is called "tuning" after all, as in, fine tuning. You have to get it just right for you. I guess it would be pretty straightforward if they made it "bang the slider all the way up or all the way to the right to make it great". We're all gonna have to play around with this a lot to get it just right for each player.
@fubarexress6359
@fubarexress6359 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I envy folks who can break down data in a way people understand. I understand it. But I can't communicate it. Glad your doing it! God's work my man haha. Keep it up.
@blacksto1
@blacksto1 2 жыл бұрын
So basically the best option is to tune according to the graph and find the sweet spot for each attachment. Great video, facts facts facts!
@360WaveLength
@360WaveLength 2 жыл бұрын
I think while Tony is testing all attachments and getting the numbers down, we should all be…dare I say, actually TRUSTING the in game graphs this time. They seem to have put a lot of effort into preventing “meta finds”, by putting a lot of variables into the numbers this time around, however in doing so, seem to have provided more reliable charts per attachment & tuning. That is to say “if you want recoil control, trust the stock that says it provides the most”. The tuning aspect also follows this according to Tony’s breakdown of the graph. To where while he’s finding the numbers, we should essentially say “fuck the numbers”, & tune it according to how the graph is showing us tuning values vs what type of build we are tuning for. Screen shots & Live Photos WILL be valuable this year. As will the firing range. Example: I spent 3 hours last night testing the Lachman 556 in the firing range. Extremes felt like more of the same. But it wasn’t until “finely tuning” the gun according to the graph that I found a build using the VLK 4x optic where it truly felt like it had “no recoil”(and yes, there is a build for this weapon where it will not move, almost slightly, similar to the grau 5.56 in WZ 1).
@MichaelLeonard
@MichaelLeonard 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible work man, it’s insane the amount of effort you put into all this testing. Much appreciated.
@bigthahn
@bigthahn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting in the work , it seems like they made it so hard to understand that they are making it impossible on purpose...
@Lewie56789
@Lewie56789 2 жыл бұрын
Other COD KZbinrs: "YOU GUYS check out this most OVERPOWERED weapon setup!!!!" (*based on nothing but a single game with it*) TrueGameData: "so anyways after collecting the data on the X and y values of weapon sway I went into matlab to perform a Fourier analysis..." You contribute more than literally thousands of other content creators combined.
@espsixstrings
@espsixstrings 2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting, especially the movement speed part. I wonder how tough it will be to keep up with buffs and nerfs if there is also updates to the tuning stats. GG
@dr._breens_beard
@dr._breens_beard 2 жыл бұрын
This right here is whats giving me anxiety and putting me off playing till i can at least get a dismemberment gun (those just made the gameplay fun af in 2019) i feel nerfing and buffing of the guns without us getting an explanation of the tuning system is only gonna cause major headaches
@fredf4562
@fredf4562 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the same thing as you,adjusted my LMG accordingly. Good job!
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