TrueTiles - A Revolutionary New Approach to 3D Printed Dungeon Tiles

Now available here: www.heroshoard.com
Free Sample Pack available at DriveThruRPG
TrueTiles Copyright (C) 2016 Ryan Beasecker and William Buchanan
Wyloch's Armory Copyright (C) 2016 William Buchanan
Hero's Hoard Copyright (C) 2016 Ryan Beasecker

[@BillAllanWorld]

I love this. I love it more than I can properly express right now. This Sunday, during my epic campaign, I will be discussing this with all of my players.

[@WylochsArmory]

+Bill Allan Dig it!

[@whitefire615]

I LOVE YOU!!! This is amazing! Please never stop what you're doing.

[@WylochsArmory]

+whitefire615 We aim to please.

[@jenniferw8963]

Congratulations Wyloch & Heroe's Hoard! A mighty fine set of tiles! Looking forward to the add-ons! Love the detail of the models and the clips! I imagine the 3D printed ones would go nicely with hand-crafted pieces as well.

[@ryanbeasecker9235]

Thanks, Jennifer! This would not have been possible without you!

[@jenniferw8963]

Thanks Ryan! You're too kind :) Incredible work!

[@Weeohhweeohh]

Very nice man! I have really enjoyed all your vids and happy to see you taking this concept to the next level. I'll pass this on to my friends!

[@WylochsArmory]

+Weeohhweeohh Thanks!

[@garysalazar5279]

love this! cant wait for the next set!

[@ryanbeasecker9235]

More dungeon tile sets are already in development! Soon........

[@lukesgametime89]

You guys are the real heroes!

[@machinenoise9622]

Very cool. Nicely done.

[@papaaowl8116]

Bravo...... *slow clap* Well presented and looks clean.

[@WylochsArmory]

+Curtis Malone (Horizon Creation 3D) Thanks!

[@jatman17]

Those clips just convinced me to use these over my DMG tiles.

[@SpaceNavy90]

This is some great stuff.

[@Flikis]

It looks good and less spacious to store with low walls. Only drawback is that low wall prevents building a upper floor ontop. Not that is used during play much, but in modeling and showcasing.

[@tristancotton7222]

At 3:46 I think that some pf the tiles look odd. They don't fit together correctly. Inside the room the door wall and the tile to the right's wall are offset to each other. Another thing is outside the same problem occurs. This is not enough to stop me wanting these but just wanted to know I there is a way to stop this.another question: Why cant you just use 2 pieces of wall side by sideI would love if someone could reply. These look amazing and its really good that you can make it and paint it yourself. They are so affordable (as long as you have a 3d printer anyway)

[@aiacfrosti1772]

>Spends a week designing almost exactly this (smaller grid; thinner, taller walls) >Comes to the internet to find it has already been done, but better

[@fradinryth]

Same thing happened to me with storage containers for my X-Wing minis. I feel your pain.

[@kevinwatts8221]

You guys have out done yourselves!

[@WylochsArmory]

+Kevin Watts Thanks!

[@dungeontime9859]

Any ideas on locking tabs for the original crafted tiles?

[@andreastanke5961]

See there is a reason for buying a 3D printer. Very cool 👍

[@msmith1437]

More!!!

[@raverpatrick]

Looks awesome, I'm going to test out the sample pack in the next couple of days. I was wondering if you have larger size field tiles for bigger room layouts? Also, I noticed at 5:40 when you pick it up, one of the central room tiles starts to fall out because there's no way to clip it in. Understandably you won't be picking up your dungeon very often, but if doing a very larger room how well some the 2x2 tiles hold together? I've been printing off some OpenForge stuff lately and attaching with magnets, but I used to build terrain with the cardboard and always loved the small wall design, so will probably put some sample dungeons together. I never liked the half-squares of the openforge stuff or the shared walls problems.

[@WylochsArmory]

Thanks. Yes the field files do float. However as long as the perimeter of the room is secured, you should be good to go.

[@Steelguard327]

Thumbs way up Wyloch!

[@Spazmunki13]

Hey Wyloch! Would it be possible to create a tutorial for hot glue and cardboard versions of those tile clips? Thanks for the awesome videos. :)

[@skunk12]

Douche

[@Halloweenville]

Very cool now i need a 3D printer lol

[@GeneralKetchup57]

Absolutely Freaking Awesome! Man, I wish I could order a premade mega set of these tiles. I love the locking clips. Bad news for me. I've spent the last 2 weeks making a starter set of your tavern tiles with slight modifications. I'm going to do a video on it. However, I used 1" pop sticks instead of 3/4. They look great though. Love your work. I hope you look into mass producing these because I think you have something very special! Congrats!!!

[@WylochsArmory]

+Monsters & Mazes by General Ketchup Appreciate the support!

[@edinnuir7518]

This is really cool! i need to mooch around looking for people willing to take print comissions now >8D

[@Yushippo]

This idea is great and these looks so good! I'm about to test print some of these and I hope they turn out good so that I can print out more and purchase the full base dungeon pack. Are you planning on releasing a model pack for caverns also?

[@WylochsArmory]

Eventually. For now, we are doing the dungeon expansions. www.kickstarter.com/projects/1388863853/truetiles-dungeon-expansions-chasms-and-water/comments

[@Yushippo]

Wyloch's Crafting Vids Good to hear! Good luck with the kickstarter. Hoping to hear about the cavern tiles soon :)

[@gregkirby9059]

What about curved stairs going up and down?

[@AllAroundFlight]

Hey Wyloch, do you have estimate on how far you would get with 1kg filament. I can get my behind how many tiles I would get out of one roll. One roll cost around 25 euros. Not sure how affordable it would be

[@WylochsArmory]

AllAroundFlight I've printed around 30 tiles and it looks like at least half of my 1kg spool is left.

[@Adderkleet]

At the start, I was worried you just scaled up the squares. It's a pretty good idea, although I do wish you'd shown the absolute difference between building the room first and building the corridor first in the worked example (which is just that one wall has moved 1/4 inch - the grid is still identical).

[@WylochsArmory]

+Adderkleet I see what you mean. Yes, the wall might be in on a different "side" but as you said, the grid is preserved, and in all cases, every single game space can accomodate a 1" miniature.

[@glendavis9026]

Hello, I'm into the Egyptian Theme, is there a way to print these in a Buff Color? also could you make a Trapezoidal Arch/doorway for these. the set your selling is that for one time print, could i print as many as i need at that one price or do i need to pay that price each time i print a set?

[@WylochsArmory]

No, you are purchasing the pack of STL model files. You may then print as many copies as you like for your own personal use. We'll add your suggestions to the list, thanks!

[@robertspears8301]

Very excited about these. I don't have a 3d printer, yet. Can you recommend a decent low-end printer for these?

[@ryanbeasecker9235]

+Robert Spears Monoprice has some good, cheap printers, like the Maker Select 3D Printer v2. www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13860 It is upgrade able, and there are several printable add-ons that make it even better. Monoprice also has a fantastic return policy, if you dont like it.

[@robertspears8301]

+Ryan Beasecker Thanks very much. I've got a bonus coming up and see this printer and your tiles in my future :)

[@jenniferw8963]

I have the Monoprice Maker Select V2, and second this. It's only $349 and many people say after they mod it, it performs like a printer costing $1000-2000

[@naetuir]

This looks pretty cool. Checking out the sample pack now-- Are you planning to put out other sets at all?

[@WylochsArmory]

Absolutely, and in the near future.

[@naetuir]

Great! I just finished my first print. Looks pretty darn good. The proportions fix most of the problems that I had with other terrain pieces I've found. So thanks for that. :)

[@WylochsArmory]

Glad to hear it!

[@KalleBowo]

Hey there, first off: Great explainatory video of your concept! A serious question though: I own a 3D printer and use it for a hobby, designing my own miniatures. But I want to turn it into a business at some point and I was thinking about destributing sort of dungeon-like modular digital kits ... and while sketching out ideas I was running into the same wall-problem that you solved with your design (how explained at about 2:50 in the video). During researching for solutions I stumbled accross your video and think to myself, this problem is driving me nuts and that's exactly what I was looking for! But since I've noticed your copyright, I would like to ask, would it be okay to use your ratio (with the 1/4" walls and the overall 1,25" fields) for designing my tiles? Or is using this exact ratio already infringing your copyright? I mean I wouldn't use any other of your design-elements (like the low walls, the little connector-clips, the clip-on-doors/objects/etc.). I'm not even planning for a medieval or fantasy like setting, so I wouldn't even catch your target audience with my stuff. But your solution to the tile size and wall ratio stuff is really ingenious (yet so simple) and it would totally solve all my design conception problems. I'm looking forward to your response! Keep up the great work! 😊

[@WylochsArmory]

Hello - Thanks for reaching out. We do not, nor could we, nor should we be able to claim ownership of dimensions. There is nothing to keep you from using those dimensions in your product. If you want to cite me as an inspiration in the product's listing notes, that would be appreciated, but is not a requirement or condition of any sort. Wish you luck, take care.

[@KalleBowo]

@@WylochsArmory Thank you for the quick response! I will surely cite you as an inspiration! Even though it will probably take a while until the product is ready. As I said, I just sketched out some rough ideas and I have some other projects in the pipeline first.

[@dinisd6820]

I assume these are mouldable and replicated through casting right? Dont have much experience with 3d printed but that would be quite cool. Do you see in the foreseeable future selling the printed base tiles instead of stl models?

[@WylochsArmory]

We are exploring options to sell printed tiles; so far most are prohibitively expensive.

[@alexknight355]

+Wyloch's Crafting Vids I love the product but me, being a crafter, was wondering if this is the end of your tutorial videos? Just a question and I love your vids a lot (watched them all).

[@WylochsArmory]

+Alex Knight Absolutely. Not. In fact, tune for tomorrow's episode where I will very clearly address that concern. Long story short: WCV continues on, and you will NEVER require a 3D printer do anything in my instructional videos.

[@alexknight355]

+Wyloch's Crafting Vids Thanks, I'm in college so while I love making tiles you can understand the worry. But this does give me something to shoot for as far as money goes later in life.

[@ryanbeasecker9235]

+Alex Knight As Wyloch said, his video tutorials will keep going like nothing has changed. We are both hardcore crafters and will continue to create things with cardboard and hot glue. Our main goal is to reach another platform of gamers that might not be aware of Wyloch's brilliant tile designs. This will only ever be an addition, never a subtraction.

[@Bungwirez]

Investing in a 3D printer ... NOW!

[@AlbertoRodriguez-zb3iu]

Excellent design! But where's the address to order the basic set? I saw in one of your videos (can't recall which one), you used a (functioning) open/closing door which also looks great, but how can you set this type of door to the tile to avoid it from sliding away?

[@ryanbeasecker9235]

The sample set: drivethrurpg.com/product/182322/TrueTiles-Free-Dungeon-Sample-Pack The Base set: drivethrurpg.com/product/182881/TrueTiles-Base-Dungeon-Pack

[@AlbertoRodriguez-zb3iu]

Ryan Beasecker Thank you very much!

[@christinevargas2720]

Is there any way you would just sell the already made tiles? I don't have a 3D printer.

[@WylochsArmory]

+Christine Vargas We are looking into it, but at the moment we do not have that capability.

[@fhuber7507]

You can make them from foam core poster-board and card stock 10 times faster than you can 3D print them. For even more complex details you can cut up foam egg cartons to use as individual bricks, stones and doors in a poser-board wall. The poster-board wall pretty accurately represents a 6 inch thick wall. Its not worth the filament t print the tiles... 3 weeks t make enough for a 3 ft X 4 ft dungeon map (Then start painting) vs less than 4 hours of work to do the same in poster-board (painting is done) You have virtually the same painting time either way....

[@bradgoman4369]

Is there a main forum that people are using for these printed tiles?

[@WylochsArmory]

No, there is not a dedicated forum. You will see them pop up here though: dmscraft.proboards.com/

[@xHARBYNGERx]

Bought the set and I'm about to print anything I should know before I do as far as printer settings go?

[@ryanbeasecker9235]

+xHARBYNGERx All of the models in the video were printed at .1mm resolution. But I have also seen good results from .2mm. You dont need rafts or supports.

[@xHARBYNGERx]

+Ryan Beasecker Thank you, sir

[@lidarman2]

I like this in so many ways; the short walls, doors, and snap together using the wall clips. However, for a large room with field tiles, there is not an easy way to clip those together without using the open-lock version or creating, and printing large field tiles with walls. I guess one could duct tape from the bottom. That said, I do not like the 'open-lock' system. It requires thick tiles, clunky clips, --and as you pointed out on the tradition design, thick tall walls--all which use a lot of plastic and print time. And all that has to be painted too.

[@WylochsArmory]

Hmmm, what do you mean by "thick tiles?" Their base is only 1/4" thick...

[@lidarman2]

The non-locking version of true-tiles is only 0.1 inch thick. I like that better.

[@lidarman2]

Well I like the non-'openlock' version of the true tile being only 0.1" thick. My taste I guess.

[@WylochsArmory]

Rich M ahhh...well actually they arent, they print in two pieces for convenience; they have a base piece which contains the openlock port. But hey, if it works for ya!

[@dmrobby4309]

i wish i saw this before i made my last set of tiles :(

[@andmous]

Unfortunately, here in Brazil 3D print is very very very expensive yet... :..(

[@AlexKolakowski]

I would suggest making your tiles small enough to be printed on the olo.. Cool stuff!

[@WylochsArmory]

Well, they can only possibly one size: 2.5" x 2.5"

[@WylochsArmory]

Possibly *be*

[@AlexKolakowski]

+Wyloch's Crafting Vids nice, I think if a guy printed them on their side I think you could use the olo, which is going to be great for personal printing. any plans for larger set pieces?

[@pleton80]

so why is it your tiles only have one connection point on each side when all the other open lock systems have like 3 so you could off set some tiles?? other then that i am in love with the idea of the extra size to off set walls that is brilliant

[@WylochsArmory]

Because we were first. 😀 Also there is no advantage to being able to attach a tile offset. And we have all the 1x2 geometries that would be needed.

[@pleton80]

@@WylochsArmory that is a very sound answer thank you

[@surinya_elandi]

What printer recomend? Price/quiality

[@ryanbeasecker9235]

The Maker Select V2 is a fine printer that has a large build plate, can print in many different materials, and can print to a resolution of .1mm. www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=107&cp_id=10724&cs_id=1072403&p_id=13860&seq=1&format=2&AID=11051853&PID=3747368&ref=cj&VigLink-2470763 It is $349USD. It also has tons of printable mods and add-ons that make it even better!

[@GradualGhost]

This would solve my troubles. I like these tiles but I never have time to make them (Don't ask). Now it would only raise the issue of me getting my own 3D printer...

[@LoLGrimfyre]

The clips dont print at the correct size to snap onto the tiles... they just slide right off

[@WylochsArmory]

That is odd. Never heard of that before. Is your slicer scaling to something other than 100%?

[@LoLGrimfyre]

So i ended up finding out that the Extruder Spring tension was not tight enough so the filament kept slipping causing the print to miss layers which caused the tiles and the clips to print the wrong size. It works now after i fixed that problem!

[@jacobstaten2366]

Looks like walls either need to be thinner, or their own spaces.

[@WylochsArmory]

You mean if using a 1" grid?

[@jacobstaten2366]

@@WylochsArmory like regardless of what scale, the walls are so thick they mostly take upnthe space. Nudging the figure into the side makes it seem as if it's not occupying a full space and takes up the adjacent full space.

[@WylochsArmory]

@@jacobstaten2366 Well yes, if you're using a 1" grid. But this system eliminates that problem altogether.

[@0Ninja0Dude0]

Praise wyloch

[@GeneralKetchup57]

Yes, I really really like this design! Wyloch how about checking around a couple of "order 3D printed parts" like www.shapeways.com/create/ and list some prices? You could probably get a bulk order set up or percentage and do another video showing the examples.

[@WylochsArmory]

+Monsters & Mazes by General Ketchup We'll explore that, and other options. Thanks!

[@FreeFire187]

+Wyloch's Crafting Vids please let us know what you come up with to purchase some! I'm dying inside for some of these. Dying, Wyloch, dying! Think about that...

[@bashscripter]

havent i seen this dungeon tiles on Thingyverse. No copyright issues?

[@WylochsArmory]

We dual host the free sample pack there. It is our own listing on tverse

[@Cloakedbeast]

once 3d printed and self painted is the person who 3d printed it aloud to sell said model? For instance if I 3d printed and mapped out a city or fighting area for a campaign I'm running painted it all and permanently connected those pieces perhaps with some of my own that I've made would I be legally allowed to sell that model that I printed and combined on ebay?

[@WylochsArmory]

No, that is not permitted (please see the legal terms in the folder).

[@Cloakedbeast]

okay. Thank you

[@shirleylyn11]

i'm fie with making my tiles out of cardstock. very cool tho.

[@skunk12]

Douche

[@roraryprisock1912]

How is the the hallway now clipped to the room??

[@WylochsArmory]

Sorry, I don't understand the question. Can you rephrase and/or what time in the video?

[@roraryprisock1912]

3:24 to 3:29, how do you secure the hallway to the room?

[@WylochsArmory]

You could either use a T-clip on the wall, or, use the OpenLOCK connection in the base of the tile. Either way.

[@alexjohnston2734]

how much is the material cost to print a single tile?

[@ryanbeasecker9235]

+Alex Johnston Assuming the that your roll of plastic filament costs $23 per Kg, the average cost per tile is about $0.37. Far cheaper than the equivalent DF tiles (3 for $12). :) If you get your plastic filament cheaper, the cost keeps coming down.

[@alexjohnston2734]

+Ryan Beasecker would a makerbot work for creating these and if so what program would i need to get to input the designs. i am new to 3d printing can you tell. lol

[@ryanbeasecker9235]

+Alex Johnston I know the feeling. Home 3D printing (especially when printing things for your tabletop RPG) is very exciting. A makerbot will work just fine. For the slicing program you can use Makerbot Desktop, or Cura (they are both free downloads) or you could get Simplify 3D (paid program). All the models have been designed to print flat, and without supports or rafts. Once the printer is set up, you can just load the file and hit "Go".

[@alexjohnston2734]

+Ryan Beasecker do you recommend any supplier for the mats?

[@ryanbeasecker9235]

+Alex Johnston Do you mean the plastic wire filament? I am printing with PLA plastic Filament. I am purchasing Hatchbox filament off of Amazon. It typically runs about $23 and Kg.

[@hyperguyver2]

i find this self defeating because alot of us craft our own tiles from cardboard and on the cheap. items like the clip on doors and other parts can also be made from these same materials. 3d printing is fantastic but it gets costly and the time it takes to print and the sheer quantity needed just doesn't compete with a DIY crafter.

[@WylochsArmory]

Many feel like you do. But many (many) do not. Many have been clamoring for a 3D printed solution in lieu of crafting. So here it is. I applaud your preference for crafting (honestly I kinda prefer it sometimes myself)

[@seigeengine]

I highly doubt many are doing any such thing. It requires you to be completely uninterested in creating your own things, yet simultaneously willing to finish and paint them, while not willing to buy a commercial product solution to the problem. It's a weird middle ground that really doesn't make any practical sense. Seems more of a gimmick than anything to me. Pros: You don't have to be creative. Cons: Higher cost, higher labour, less flexibility, higher capital costs, higher skill requirement

[@MoragTong_]

@@seigeengine Lol higher cost. For what it takes to get equipped to REALLY craft, you can get a 3d Printer. Once you do so, you can print these tiles for between 0.05 - 0.10 cents apiece. The creativity comes in designing anything you can possibly imagine.

[@seigeengine]

How about you read my comment all the way through before whining at me about your 3d printing fetish? Also, first of all, you mean $0.05-$0.10, not 0.05-0.10 cents, and I'm not really sure where you're getting that notion. All the sources I'm pulling up (as well as looking at plastic density, dimensions of tiles, cost of filament, etc.) suggest the cost is more $0.50-$1.00 per tile for simple economical tiles, all of which is printing costs sans finishing work. In contrast, I just quickly hit up some of the first links I found for commercial 3d dungeon terrain and found prices ranging from $0.80-$2.00/tile. In contrast, I can pick up the materials to DIY some and get them to the same stage of completion for maybe $0.05/tile. Look at those numbers. It's much more expensive to 3D print than use other at-home methods, and the costs of 3D printing them, while generally lower than buying 3D tiles, aren't all that much lower. I can see why it works for some people, and if it's the route you choose to go, that's fine, but acting as if this is some great solution for the masses is ridiculous.

[@shirleylyn11]

@@seigeengine I'm with@seigeengine on this one. I like making the tiles with the card board and the odds and ends I collect, I am now making a "Dungeon Bowl"(a varient of BLOOD BOWL" for my husbands gaming club The Thursday Night Hero's".) and while I have a painting service, and I could buy a 3D Printer, it just seems less "hands on" and fun finding pieces that work...I don't know.

[@bashscripter]

this was not pioneered by Dm Scotty... people have been doing this for years lol. but still cute that a new generation feels it is something new :D

[@WylochsArmory]

Perhaps the better word then is "popularized."

[@Shatteredragon]

Wondering why you don't offer both short walls and normal sized walls for the option. Not every gamer or dm prefers short walls.

[@WylochsArmory]

Our contention is: they really should.

[@Shatteredragon]

@@WylochsArmory unless you use combinations of short and high walls in your games. Height of hallways and rooms at a glance really helps larger characters or flying characters know their limitations. I've heard as many good arguments for short walks as I've heard against them. So why cut out potential customers and offer both? It wouldn't be difficult at all. Or maybe I just run more complex games than most... love the idea, think I'll just make my own.