Why Are People Leaving Florida - Is It REALLY That Bad?

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Searches on the internet asking "Why Are People Leaving Florida" are trending up. This begs the question, is it really that bad?
It's no secret that more people have moved to Florida over the past four years than to any other state besides Texas. But why are more people than normal deciding to leave Florida?
Is it the cost of living, climate, weather, insurance, property taxes, politics, education, and culture?
Today, we'll discuss why people move to Florida, why some are forced to leave their homes in the Sunshine State, and why others are just choosing to leave.
If you're considering relocating and buying a home in Florida, we'd love to guide you through the process.
If you're considering selling your home and leaving the Sunshine State, know you're not alone. And we would love to be your real estate team of choice.
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00:00 Why Are People Leaving Florida
01:24 Job Market
03:16 Cost Of Living
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@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 12 күн бұрын
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@EconomyisFine-oe1se
@EconomyisFine-oe1se 6 күн бұрын
Only the peons are leaving😮 the important people that make all the money are staying. That's to make it simple for you to understand what I'm trying to say. Just Doom & Gloom. This is no different than any other times.
@stevenjohnson8736
@stevenjohnson8736 3 күн бұрын
u forgot to mention hurricane
@stevenjohnson8736
@stevenjohnson8736 3 күн бұрын
is that’s the reason why Florida got the most expensive insurance in America Florida insurance cost way more than California and that’s a fact
@EconomyisFine-oe1se
@EconomyisFine-oe1se 3 күн бұрын
@@stevenjohnson8736 probably Miami is the most expensive place to live in the US. Basically Florida is becoming the new California. Even though California is better weather in the summer it's so hot in Florida it's like a sauna in Florida in the summer😱
@stevenjohnson8736
@stevenjohnson8736 3 күн бұрын
@@EconomyisFine-oe1seduring the summer the weather here in Los Angeles it doesn’t even get that the hottest it get during the summer around 90 degree
@luzfelipe2964
@luzfelipe2964 10 күн бұрын
Old people used to come to Florida for retirement and now they can’t afford to live here.
@ent1311
@ent1311 8 күн бұрын
What's the problem? 😊
@JoelUldrych-kh2sc
@JoelUldrych-kh2sc 7 күн бұрын
​@ent1311 You might get old too. Then you'll be eating crow.
@ent1311
@ent1311 7 күн бұрын
@@JoelUldrych-kh2sc what is crow my guy? Is that an old reference?
@GoldTau-t1b
@GoldTau-t1b 7 күн бұрын
West Virginia 🤷‍♂️
@TheNombre11
@TheNombre11 6 күн бұрын
@@ent1311 HOA fees and lot rent that has no limit. If you buy a condo, the HOAs have come up with astronomical fees because of insurance and improvements they neglected. You don't pay and they take your property. (Thank you to Rick Scott for making that possible.) Many of 55+ communities seem affordable, especially the manufactured housing, but the lot rent is already over $1,000 / month with no limit. You are better off being a snowbird and renting for a while. The Republican Florida legislature does nothing because they are too busy making "morality" laws.
@robertgardner2782
@robertgardner2782 10 күн бұрын
This isn't the retirement state anymore. It's the hustlers state.
@ent1311
@ent1311 8 күн бұрын
Awesome 👍😎
@GoldTau-t1b
@GoldTau-t1b 7 күн бұрын
Hell on Earth
@william-fla-321
@william-fla-321 7 күн бұрын
Always has been.
@TheNombre11
@TheNombre11 7 күн бұрын
The Republicans who only serve themselves
@EconomyisFine-oe1se
@EconomyisFine-oe1se 6 күн бұрын
I don't know maybe you can just go to Florida and go on government subsidies have the government pay for the place for you. I hear people doing it. Not just the newcomers.😮
@darrtrubb
@darrtrubb 7 күн бұрын
I left Florida (Tampa Bay) 4 days ago after living there for 27 years & only regret not doing it sooner. Jobs & pay suck, housing crisis ignored by state government, cost of living has skyrocketed despite said jobs & pay, sweltering summers that seem to never end, hurricane anxiety (Category 4 & 5 are the new normal), worst drivers in the country, perpetually angry people, outrageous insurance (home & car), toxic politics, proudly ignorant & outspoken population, Ron DeSantis….how many words/characters does KZbin allow in the comments section?
@TheNombre11
@TheNombre11 6 күн бұрын
@@darrtrubb I forgot the truly terrible drivers. Yep. And the gun violence which has skyrocketed because of all the people who have guns now.
@betho4212
@betho4212 6 күн бұрын
Where did you move? I was born in Sarasota and have lived here for 30 years. I want to move to the PNW but trying to get insight
@darrtrubb
@darrtrubb 6 күн бұрын
@@betho4212 I moved back to Massachusetts and I’ve never been happier. Wish I hadn’t wasted so much time in a state in spiraling decline. It’s so liberating being amongst the civilized & enlightened once again.
@betho4212
@betho4212 5 күн бұрын
Thank you! Yeah, I just need to do it. I appreciate it!
@hdhd7402
@hdhd7402 5 күн бұрын
Yeah I had my shock trying to move to the Panhandle. I’ve been away/ out of Florida for 27 years. First auto insurance quote had an increase of $5K per year for 5 vehicles! Not to mention the price of houses. House listed for $800K+ with a tax assessment of $350K. So much for retirement life.
@lorraineperron4840
@lorraineperron4840 8 күн бұрын
No fire sale and it is far different than 2007/2008. WHY, because condo fees have doubled and tripled, insurance costs have gone through the roof, repairs and reserves on most buildings are out of control so no real estate agents are willing to say that if you think you need $1500 a month then double the money to meet all the other expenses so you actually need $3000. I had no mortgage and I was priced out of my condo just because of the huge increase in condo fees, insurance, repairs, and taxes, huge. Just moved to Europe at 73 years old since USA is out of control.
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. Sorry, you were priced out. That's terribly sad.
@buffycat4641
@buffycat4641 7 күн бұрын
When I left Florida in 2020 my HOA dues were $224, they are now $384 in the same development. No thanks.
@Surferjo
@Surferjo 7 күн бұрын
I can even get ins for my condo
@EconomyisFine-oe1se
@EconomyisFine-oe1se 6 күн бұрын
That's totally awesome😅 I want to renounce my US citizenship. The United States is horrible it's too expensive even on government subsidies I can't afford it😢. If I can't leave I will have to do wrongdoing to pay for my rent. Possibly identity theft. Again even on government subsidies you still can't afford it😢
@EconomyisFine-oe1se
@EconomyisFine-oe1se 6 күн бұрын
​@@trulivingtampathat's because the USA is a horrible greedy country. I'm going to have to leave the US myself😢 even on government subsidies it still cannot pay the rent or expenses. NO THEY CAN NOT HELP ANYMORE. They basically just said sorry that's the best we can do. So I'm going to renounce my US citizenship and probably go to Canada or maybe Vietnam. I hear it's really cheap to live in Vietnam and it's very safe😅. The USA has lost its priced me out😢
@derickderidder7785
@derickderidder7785 11 күн бұрын
A hurricane destroyed my house and my homeowners insurance dropped me. DON'T MOVE TO FLORIDA.
@AlanGallardo-rj4ty
@AlanGallardo-rj4ty 10 күн бұрын
You must hove been in Fort Myers area
@tommyv5866
@tommyv5866 10 күн бұрын
But people want to still buy houses out here 😂
@GoldTau-t1b
@GoldTau-t1b 7 күн бұрын
Hell on Earth
@sarahjones3007
@sarahjones3007 Күн бұрын
I am sorry to hear that. I am still considering if I want to stay in Florida or not anymore. The HOA isn’t good I do know that
@zeropressureacoustic7255
@zeropressureacoustic7255 7 күн бұрын
You hit the nail on the head with the 80% increase in home values since 2018. In Pinellas County, you can't find a decent home for under $300k. Couple that with flood insurance, and it's not worth it for most people. Those who come to Florida and think the beaches are clean and empty find out quickly that it is crowded as hell, especially on weekends and holidays.
7 күн бұрын
Then don't go to the beach on weekends and holidays. Problem solved!
@cayrick
@cayrick 9 күн бұрын
Along with a growing population is growing traffic issues. In the last 10 yrs of visiting Miami traffic has become almost unbearable.
@danielleheider4960
@danielleheider4960 6 күн бұрын
A lot of people leave FL not only due to the high cost living but the low wages. I'm not just talking about the blue collar jobs but across the board wages are below the national average.
@tommyv5866
@tommyv5866 10 күн бұрын
*I'm not saying don't move to FL, just all the issues are real. And you will experience them all when you come here... once you get over your honeymoon with this state. Then comes logical thinking* also people be getting scammed out here
@pablosmitty4024
@pablosmitty4024 8 күн бұрын
How they be getting scammed?
@TheNombre11
@TheNombre11 7 күн бұрын
Low pay with crazy housing prices. Unaffordable home owners insurance. HOAs taking your property. Our atrocious governor. Rising heat--we now have August weather in June. Rapidly intensifying hurricanes.
@TT-em8wx
@TT-em8wx 7 күн бұрын
Please leave, and take your Teslas with you!
@slumy8195
@slumy8195 6 күн бұрын
those lousy SOB's came from cali, makes me wonder where all these tesla drivers went during lockdowns. I dont want them coming back gtfo cali skids.
@solargod3671
@solargod3671 10 күн бұрын
A lot of broke people here and scammers because no jobs here really paying over 40k. Please leave so prices can go back down. Be scared of the heat , cost , hurricanes , power outages for over 2 weeks , jobs 16hr, traffic , bugs crawling in your home while sleep, and etc .
@zatosan729
@zatosan729 11 сағат бұрын
Prices are not going down.
@buffycat4641
@buffycat4641 7 күн бұрын
Lived in Florida from 1962 to 2020, when I relocated to another state. I will never return to Florida! It was once a truly wonderful place to live, not anymore. As for estate tax the IRS tax only kicks in when an individual leaves $13 million+. Just check the state you want to move to, to see if they have an estate/inheritance tax. Florida is too crowded, roads are like parking lots, people have grown increasingly nasty, taxes and insurance costs are ludicrous. And frankly after all those years I got tired of preparing for hurricanes every year and yes, I went through way too many on the East coast. Took my state paid pension, Social Security and 457 account and am enjoying spending it elsewhere!
@JuancoPRoFlow
@JuancoPRoFlow 2 күн бұрын
Where did you go?
@tommyv5866
@tommyv5866 10 күн бұрын
*Overall, Florida is too expensive & overhyped* ... but come, just be ready to be in deep regret afterwards. I say visit for a month...if you don't like it. Cool.
@joanmoore3018
@joanmoore3018 6 күн бұрын
I am a native Floridian, fifth generation. This state has changed tremendously over the years. Cost have gone up and so many people. When people move here they need to understand that they are going to have to adjust to many changes. We have thought about relocating to another state because of these changes. For now we stay, but might relocate in the future.
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@freddyramirez5818
@freddyramirez5818 12 күн бұрын
Florida it’s not Worth
@magicparkmemories
@magicparkmemories 9 күн бұрын
Florida has the worst pay for teachers and education is horrible
@gale3684
@gale3684 7 күн бұрын
Florida gov changed that in recent years
@Mittens_Gaming
@Mittens_Gaming 6 күн бұрын
The #1 School District in America is St. Johns Florida, and Florida ranks #10 overall in education. So, your objectively wrong?
@Hawlkeye-e9p
@Hawlkeye-e9p 4 күн бұрын
Worked for Martin County school district. Pay was so bad had to leave. Un livable salaries. Game over, get out while you can before your homleless
@richardadams6988
@richardadams6988 3 күн бұрын
@magicparkmemories my income suck to have no recourse
@nenaddamjanovic8981
@nenaddamjanovic8981 9 күн бұрын
I've been living in North Carolina for 17 years It was a beautiful state with so many parks,lakes, ocean, forest mountain, very nice
@laurarush
@laurarush 6 күн бұрын
lots of FL plates here ✔️
@dapperdino1996
@dapperdino1996 5 күн бұрын
@@laurarushI just moved to NC from FL last year and I notice FL plates EVERYWHERE it’s crazy.
@Cruxis_Angel
@Cruxis_Angel 5 күн бұрын
NY/NJ flocked to Florida, Floridians had to go to the Carolina’s/georgia. The past 20 years of leadership has really fucked this state for actual Floridians. Now it’s like no one’s actually from here.
@katerinadehning1685
@katerinadehning1685 12 күн бұрын
Thank you, Juan, for this video (and other videos, too)! Agree with you 100%. My husband and I moved to FL 5 years ago and have loved it since then, just like you! With all the challenges totally worth for us. We love living close to the best beaches, enjoying the lifestyle, nature, and warm climate! First, we lived on the east coast, Boca Raton, but then fell in love with the Gulf Coast and, therefore, relocated to Tampa Bay last year. We do make little less money here than where we came from, but we spend less on travels as FL has everything we love! All the best to you and your lovely family ❤
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing and for the kind words.
@pablosmitty4024
@pablosmitty4024 8 күн бұрын
Doesn’t matter where you live, condos are a terrible investment
@magicparkmemories
@magicparkmemories 9 күн бұрын
Worst drivers here
@Tampadegen
@Tampadegen 11 күн бұрын
I’ve lived in Tampa 29 years. If you go to Publix now there will be 25 waiting in line in some parts of town. I remember 5 years ago you literally would have 1-3 people checking out at any one time even on Friday at like 5 pm. it’s gotten way busier the beach parking is 50$ for all day pass it use to be 8$ that’s almost 6 times as much.
@kathykobos8980
@kathykobos8980 7 күн бұрын
need to go to the Atlantic side, near Sebastian and Vero. Much more laid back and less busy. you can park at beaches for free there.
@william-fla-321
@william-fla-321 7 күн бұрын
@@kathykobos8980In years past, I preferred the Gulf coast and now I prefer the Atlantic coast. The best thing about the Gulf Coast is the sunsets 🌅.
@buffycat4641
@buffycat4641 7 күн бұрын
Lived in Tampa for 4 (long) years, went to the beach once. Drive is too long, beaches too crowded and traffic at a standstill.
@melaninmya5313
@melaninmya5313 11 күн бұрын
How much are you guys paying for insurance???😂😂😂😂. This State is a joke.
@slumy8195
@slumy8195 6 күн бұрын
highest in the nation for flood, home, car insurance. Highest property taxes in the nation. Newsflash; we all pay taxes in each state! No such thing as taking 100% income.... Folks are delusional
@AugieBenDougie-wk9pr
@AugieBenDougie-wk9pr Күн бұрын
He says he only pays 2500 a yr and he saying he is minutes from the beach. Go figure?
@anarr7411
@anarr7411 12 күн бұрын
Wow! Loved the info, thank you!
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 12 күн бұрын
You're welcome!
@steven_dekok
@steven_dekok 12 күн бұрын
We went in July to see if we could handle the humidity. Surprisingly, it was easier to adjust to than I expected. When we move, we plan to be as close to the water as we can afford. (Edit: we also visited Texas and the humidity was waaaay worse there!)
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Steven.
@user-kk3qg5el1m
@user-kk3qg5el1m 11 күн бұрын
Born and raised here and the humidity is bad, been here all of my life you cannot judge this humidity off of a visit. Some of you are going to justify moving to Florida even if flames are coming from the street.
@steven_dekok
@steven_dekok 11 күн бұрын
@user-kk3qg5el1m we are moving for about 2 dozen reasons. It will be our US base for one as we spend most summers across the pond in Eastern Europe. Not really worried about the humidity. We have plenty of places to go during that time.
@andreaL3733
@andreaL3733 11 күн бұрын
Hey Juan, amazing video once again. I have been in Florida - Tampa areas in March 2 years ago then last year January through April to experience winter my next trip is September for exactly reasons you are talking about cis usually I don’t mind hope and humid weather 🎉
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@william-fla-321
@william-fla-321 7 күн бұрын
If you enjoy the heat and humidity so much, get a job working outside, it’s very rewarding.
@fasteddierocs
@fasteddierocs 9 күн бұрын
Good info Thank you. by the way nice fiddle hanging on the wall there.
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 9 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@ranger2316
@ranger2316 11 күн бұрын
I love the Labrador hot breath example! So true! I can't imagine living anywhere else.
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 11 күн бұрын
We love it, too!
@RomeliaGomez-Calmell7934
@RomeliaGomez-Calmell7934 9 күн бұрын
😁
@damionponce54
@damionponce54 12 күн бұрын
I lived 20 mins east of Tampa all my life and it’s cool seeing people come down and actually find out that Florida is a good place to live. but as young guy I got pushed out of my city I grew up in bc of the high home costs and too many people flocking here at once lol
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, that’s the flipside to growth. People getting pushed out. Bummer for sure.
@darcydj
@darcydj 8 күн бұрын
I have seen sellers drop their ask by hundreds of thousands of dollars in some markets. There are extreme problems in Florida where home owners insurance is concerned. I own part of a small infosec company based in Cape Canaveral where I spend anywhere from a few weeks to a few months a year so I am very familiar with Florida. I have two things to say about Florida; only rent, don’t buy. If you buy, make sure you are not catching a knife.
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@solargod3671
@solargod3671 10 күн бұрын
Please leave
@nofameculture
@nofameculture 8 күн бұрын
😂😂Simple but straight to the point
@william-fla-321
@william-fla-321 7 күн бұрын
Happiness is, a Canadian heading North with a Yankee and a foreigner under each arm.
@EconomyisFine-oe1se
@EconomyisFine-oe1se 6 күн бұрын
Only the peons are leaving the low life and that's no different than any other time.😮
@EconomyisFine-oe1se
@EconomyisFine-oe1se 6 күн бұрын
​@@william-fla-321eh fellow Canadian here😮
@xanvavy
@xanvavy 6 күн бұрын
😂you say it as if Florida is a great State. I lived in Florida for over 20 years when it was worth living there. You can keep it ✌️
@melaninmya5313
@melaninmya5313 11 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂 This guy says we have no income tax but you all still can’t afford to live there. Bro you should have more money to spend.
@sherry4959
@sherry4959 Күн бұрын
There is no State income tax but you do pay Federal income tax!
@byd3k157
@byd3k157 8 күн бұрын
Heat, traffic, salaries, jobs, cost of living, too many old peoples that drives other old people nuts are my guesses.
@Gaboi71
@Gaboi71 4 күн бұрын
Lived in the Tampa Bay area for 17yrs and never thought about leaving. Moving to Central Georgia 2 years ago was the best move for me!!!
@TampabayTodd
@TampabayTodd 11 күн бұрын
I lived in Tampa area for last 12 years and born in south Florida. I like working and living here but the non stop traffic accidents is beyond infuriating. I’m buying vacant land further south with less traffic
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@MarkMayhew
@MarkMayhew 11 күн бұрын
You don’t have a problem with the Nazi Governor?
@TheNombre11
@TheNombre11 4 күн бұрын
@@TampabayTodd I don't live in Tampa, but same problem here. I was out the day after Independence Day thinking I'd be safer because of lower traffic but no, still got hit. Not bad, but Florida... It's probably why the car insurance is so high.
@alansewell7810
@alansewell7810 Күн бұрын
A brother-in-law who used to live in Tampa moved to a Del Webb community in Middle Georgia last year, for the reasons you mentioned. He retired and didn't need to live in the Tampa area any more, so he wanted a place with a slightly more moderate climate and less traffic-clogged. He is nice, but snooty. When he visited my place in the rural Florida lake country 20 years ago, he complained about how "backward" it was, because none of the three taverns in town had a Philadelphia Flyers hockey game on he wanted to see. He never came back. The Del Webb community he lives in now happens to be built on land my deceased mother grew up in on the 1930s during the Great Depression. Her father was a dairy farmer. To annoy the brother-in-law, I asked him if there were any cows on the property for him to milk.
@randalln.587
@randalln.587 5 күн бұрын
Lived here for 55yrs. Born here. Can't afford to live here anymore.. too much traffic. Too much crime. Insurance is outrageous. If you can get Insurance. 😢😢😢😢
@magicparkmemories
@magicparkmemories 9 күн бұрын
Parents do not watch their kids at community pools
@william-fla-321
@william-fla-321 7 күн бұрын
That applies everywhere.
@dapperdino1996
@dapperdino1996 5 күн бұрын
I was born and raised in Kissimmee, FL. I left in 2023 because I was tired of the heat and humidity 7-8 months out of the year, flat swampy boring landscape, hurricanes driving up insurance costs, and no seasons whatsoever. Besides the amusement parks and nice beaches literally FL has nothing to offer in my opinion. But even those two things become overrated when you’ve experienced it your whole life.
@Cruxis_Angel
@Cruxis_Angel 5 күн бұрын
Wish more ppl understood our weather really isn’t great. We have good winters and unbearable heat/humidity 7 months out of the year. Born and raised as well(ft.lauderdale) and it’s so sad to see what’s become of this state.
@dapperdino1996
@dapperdino1996 3 күн бұрын
@@Cruxis_Angel Meanwhile the guy that made this video always says FL has gorgeous weather year round. That’s straight 🧢. I could understand saying that about California but FL’s weather is trash unless it’s winter. Even still I recall multiple Christmas days where it was in the 80s.
@janicecopeland9083
@janicecopeland9083 6 күн бұрын
Grew up there in the 60s left in 75 and you couldn't pay me to go back 😊
@Surferjo
@Surferjo 7 күн бұрын
Over priced HOA
@romanhollow2985
@romanhollow2985 10 күн бұрын
Florida is falling apart in nearly every demographic known to man. What a mess. Glad i left years ago. Buyer beware, you'll get more than you bargained for, if you've never lived there.
@Mittens_Gaming
@Mittens_Gaming 6 күн бұрын
Which demographics are those?
@richardadams6988
@richardadams6988 6 күн бұрын
The only thing i noticed is ,when i moved here 40 years ago the people were more friendly, but not so much anymore you. go to a store or restaurant and people would say, yah all have a nice day .but not so much anymore !!!!
@thomasryan2679
@thomasryan2679 5 күн бұрын
Greetings from NYC (Nassau). We used to visit Tampa when my parents were alive. I'll never forget the people there were wonderful to us. We made lots of friends.
@Shelly-in-Tampa
@Shelly-in-Tampa 7 күн бұрын
People have always had the pattern of flooding Fl and then returning up North. I love it. I have no desire to leave.
@user-uu2lr3sf2b
@user-uu2lr3sf2b 11 күн бұрын
BTW I was here full time for 6 weeks and Hurricane Idalia Cat 3 came thru, my house is on stilts so I had a big mess no damage, neighbors whos house are at ground level lost everything, most choose to stay and clean out/rehab and stay.
@Sansclan
@Sansclan 10 күн бұрын
Just moved here the June 28 it’s awesome I love it Tampa is such a nice weather and it’s amazing I love the wildlife
@JustWatchMeDoThis
@JustWatchMeDoThis 5 күн бұрын
I live in Tulsa, OK and have MS. I cannot take our sweltering summer heat here and very recently found out that Florida is actually COOLER than us mostly. I also cant handle extreme cold and cannot walk on snow and ice anymore and looking for mild early fall-like temperatures. Please explain what hot is to the ateas in Florida such as Cape Coral over to the Orlando suburbs. What is the typical "feels like" temperatures frim July-Sept? I am starting to believe its STILL lower than where I am at. I desperately need some natural vitamin D and fresh air. I feel like I am dying here in Oklahoma! My job is remote anyway. And we have a huge growing base in Flirida, mainly around MCO. It would be perfect for me in that regard. And honestly, if its only 2-3 months I need to stay inside, it sure beats half the year around here where I am.
@eric197
@eric197 9 күн бұрын
Good information. I’m planning on moving to Jacksonville Florida with my girlfriend in august from Ohio. How come you decided on Tampa and not another city?
@Nournourhayati409
@Nournourhayati409 5 күн бұрын
Look at zillow FSBO hamlet dr Maitland, Fl On sale by owner directly 15 away from downtown orlando
@julieschlomer4063
@julieschlomer4063 11 күн бұрын
I can’t wait to move to Florida! The biggest question is when. I’m hoping to move before retirement… which is 8 years. We have 10 year old twins. I’d like them to go to college in Florida. I heard you mention an article about Florida having #1 colleges. So my husband asked number one in what? Do you have a link to that article? I know there is a great college scholarship program called Bright Futures…. Unfortunately they changed the requirements and now you need a 1350 SAT score. Ugh!
@tommyv5866
@tommyv5866 10 күн бұрын
The schooling in Florida is bad 😂 most kids can't even count change. Your too naive 😂
@tommyv5866
@tommyv5866 10 күн бұрын
I'm reading these comments and a lot of you people are in for a rude awaking when you get here 😂
@ppiriou
@ppiriou 8 күн бұрын
After living 24 years in Tampa, I got used to humidity and the summer heat. Orlando is not as humid as Tampa, but we have more beautiful trees with our humidity! I don't miss the snow as much anymore...😎
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@GoldTau-t1b
@GoldTau-t1b 7 күн бұрын
After spending 24 hours in Tampa, I got the f out
@ppiriou
@ppiriou 5 күн бұрын
@@GoldTau-t1bGlad to hear! There are already too many people now!😎
@antoniocaracallo
@antoniocaracallo 10 күн бұрын
Making an estimation, how much a couple with no kids, but 2 dogs should earn in order to live in FL? I like your video and content, I do find your info very helpful.
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 10 күн бұрын
It completely depends on your "ideal lifestyle." If you're planning on buying an average priced or luxury home, savings, investments, travel, entertainment, etc. The news articles all say somewhere from $100k-$120k. I feel like that's pretty close. You can do it for less too, but you'd be grinding it out. Hope this help
@antoniocaracallo
@antoniocaracallo 10 күн бұрын
@@trulivingtampa thank you for the reply. We’re both nurses and we are thinking to move in FL, but we want to think about and see all the bureaucracy. We’ve been there already 4-5 times and we booked already 2 trips.
@TrueBlue2024
@TrueBlue2024 9 күн бұрын
Year round beautiful weather? I beg to differ with your opinion. Six months max, the other six months are brutally hot and humid. Let’s not forget the mosquitoes and horse flies. The insurance is out of control and inflation is the highest in the country. There is massive traffic congestion everywhere. The worst part is the political system.
@dapperdino1996
@dapperdino1996 5 күн бұрын
Forreal. Whenever transplants make videos stating the weather is “beautiful year round” in FL I burst out laughing. That’s the biggest lie ever. Dec-Mar is tolerable for outside activities. The rest of the year is pure misery.
@AugieBenDougie-wk9pr
@AugieBenDougie-wk9pr Күн бұрын
Don't forget that he is a realtor down there.
@dapperdino1996
@dapperdino1996 Күн бұрын
@@AugieBenDougie-wk9pr I agree Fl has a lot to offer but I feel like he makes it seem like it’s downright amazing. He says the weather is amazing all year, the schools are some of the best in the country blah blah blah. Straight 🧢 to get more northerners to message him and use him as their realtor to relocate to FL.
@anotherday3678
@anotherday3678 4 күн бұрын
I wish everyone who moved to fla. move back to where their from. Its so saddening that original floridans can't enjoy the fruits of our labors, due the inflation and out of towners purchasing our homes. 🤦🏽‍♂🤷🏽‍♂
@6861Charley
@6861Charley 9 күн бұрын
I'm a resident of Florida for 31 years and enjoyed the beautiful beaches, wide sources of food from various grocery stores, farmer's market, etc and a high paying job for 20 years until I retired 10 years ago. After my retirement I invested my money in stocks which is giving me excellent ROI that allows me to travel to Middle East and European countries 7 times a year. Cost of living is rising everywhere but you have options to many places in terms of affordability and safety.
@user-uu2lr3sf2b
@user-uu2lr3sf2b 11 күн бұрын
I relocated from Atlanta to Suwannee, Gulf coast big bend area, I live on a canal and my back yard is water and a boat house, The natural beauty and wildlife in this area is amazing. Juan is very accurate with this podcast. For me 300 days a year of Sunshine carries a premium I will pay, Also living on the coast is a constant breeze, so the humidity is tolerable, vice say Orlando. Suwannee is a remote fishing village and there is very little traffic, schools are very low end, Cost of living is above average. All things considered you are going to have to drag me out kickin and screamin.
@rodisad
@rodisad 7 күн бұрын
If you don't have sufficient income any state will be bad for you.
@cypherlock01
@cypherlock01 5 күн бұрын
I love Tampa and Orlando 🎉❤ And this YT channel
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 5 күн бұрын
Thank you 😊
@Kalash15-m6y
@Kalash15-m6y 7 күн бұрын
Lately for click bait I saw 1000’ s videos about this
@jarvisstradford7211
@jarvisstradford7211 9 күн бұрын
The one I see so many Florida license plate in the Charlotte area
@dapperdino1996
@dapperdino1996 5 күн бұрын
Facts!
@justinmcalister7237
@justinmcalister7237 12 күн бұрын
Juan anna maria is my dream location and i hope to move my family there one day soon. Do you foresee home prices coming more reasonable in the near future?
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 12 күн бұрын
There is downward pressure on pricing, but you'd have to define "reasonable' for me. I don't expect a housing crash, if that's what you're thinking.
@justinmcalister7237
@justinmcalister7237 11 күн бұрын
​@@trulivingtampa I know there is a lot of value in Anna Maria. It's very unique in a lot of ways and extremely beautiful. I guess by reasonable I would say this: I get the market has gone up since covid. But I feel it has peaked. There are many houses 3, 4, 5 etc times asking prices / values of 3 years ago. I think that is unreasonable. Yes something is worth what someone will pay for it. But imo it's not realistic of actual value. Maybe we won't see big reductions in asking prices (would be nice tho), but maybe cash will become more and more valueable and have a little more power as time goes on. Some prices are just not worth what they ask. Time will tell I guess.
@ceegee287
@ceegee287 2 күн бұрын
Moved here in November 23. Leaving to go back to AZ November 24. Didn’t like it at all. I agree with everything he said. Florida is nice! Nice people and nice landscape. The humidity is hellish. Gotta go!
@georgeroiz8786
@georgeroiz8786 20 сағат бұрын
I have lived in Florida all my life on a Federal Government salary, paid off my house 10 years ago I bought the house for 125k and now they are offering me 800k,No HOA,No insurance I pay about $ 3500 for taxes,electricity is on the high side and so is car Insurance,but I’m retired so I don’t drive a lot so I’m good
@jcsquared1111
@jcsquared1111 11 күн бұрын
I am 45 a renter on Long Island NY. Got my credit way up and seriously yhinking of moving to Florida either St. Lucy, Spring Hill, or perhaps Plant city. Debating weather to rent to wait for Housing market to pull back. Or jist take the plunge and buy now can get like 250k mortgage.
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@michaelfaussett6508
@michaelfaussett6508 6 күн бұрын
I lived in Florida for 37 years and I seen a lot of things changed and I will be so happy to see people leaving this beautiful state of Florida because the roads would be less traffic and less people to it's won't make me sad at all.
@user-hn2gi7tm4v
@user-hn2gi7tm4v 11 күн бұрын
Was wondering about home owners insurance I lived in Florida for a long time but couldn’t stand the job market and moved back up north All my family still lives in Florida My in-laws lost their insurance on their double wide They can’t afford the rates they said Back to my question How much is insurance on a 275k house in the Brooksville or Spring Hill area I can retire now Just curious Thanks Good video
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 11 күн бұрын
You'd have to know the exact property to get an accurate quote. But from what I'm seeing with clients, anywhere from $1,800+ annually
@buffycat4641
@buffycat4641 7 күн бұрын
@@trulivingtampa That seems very low! When I owned a single family home just South of West Palm Beach the year I sold (2016) my annual policy was over $1600 for an 864 sq ft CBS home.
@Bob-bb3ur
@Bob-bb3ur 8 күн бұрын
Mostly because of homeowners insurance going up 80 to 100% every year
@slumy8195
@slumy8195 6 күн бұрын
and the 200k homes cost more in property tax than my 720k house in socal. Ha suckers
@magicparkmemories
@magicparkmemories 9 күн бұрын
Not enough libraries here
@TheNombre11
@TheNombre11 6 күн бұрын
@@magicparkmemories Probably cause DeSantis banned them.
@magicparkmemories
@magicparkmemories 6 күн бұрын
@@TheNombre11 California is a terrible state and everyone is moving out of
@darrtrubb
@darrtrubb 6 күн бұрын
@@magicparkmemories Floridians are allergic to books….especially the scary ones with minorities in them lol 📚 🚫
@Cruxis_Angel
@Cruxis_Angel 5 күн бұрын
@@magicparkmemoriesand now we’re becoming the next California.
@AndyB718
@AndyB718 9 күн бұрын
Insurance is the challenge and can be fixed pretty easy imo. The inflation will come down once Corky in the WH is thrown out by Trump.
@joseluna5934
@joseluna5934 6 күн бұрын
Love Florida! As a realtor I can say we do not see people leaving, we see more and more people move to FL.
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@brianmc7719
@brianmc7719 Күн бұрын
I am on east coast and I see those renting leave because they can't afford the rent. As a realtor you aren't seeing them go as they have nothing to sell. People who own homes can afford to stay as long as mortgages are reasonable. My place has over doubled in value, my family's home has I believe, tripled. Thank goodness for homestead exemption. That said most of our neighboring properties are now owned in LLC's and are income properties renting by the month. I am talking 2 bedroom condos for 6 grand a month while average jobs gross about half that. I literally have coworkers that live in their cars, RVs in Walmart lots or the Beach parking at night while the place next door to me sits empty in off season because the LLC owner up north would rather have it empty than rent for less than 4 grand a month. These are people are making 40K or more and homeless. So many landlords want Airbnb daily rate for rent so its 3-4K a month. It's unaffordable for many. 7 years ago you could annual rent for 1500, seasonal was 3-4 grand. I am from the northeast and I did like many, sold and bought in budget here. If I didnt I would be asking coworkers where they park and showering at a 24 hour gym. Rent is NY prices and wages are less than half. Intrest rates up so buying power down but cash buyers can still buy so prices are still up. It squeezes out most working class buyers. Oh and buyers that dont plan to be residents get sticker shock when tax bill comes as it could double or triple or more what listing showed for last resident owner, homesteaded for 15 years. Almost a decade here, I have lived both coasts, it's been an education for sure.
@charlotteredman1310
@charlotteredman1310 12 күн бұрын
I love to move from the UK to Clearwater Florida when I leave college because of the beautiful sunshine and the amazing marine wildlife over there! I already doing some research to learn all about living in the Clearwater Florida area I'm already saving my money up to one day to live in the Clearwater FL some day in the future! 🙏🙏😃😃
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 12 күн бұрын
Love it!
@luzfelipe2964
@luzfelipe2964 10 күн бұрын
The grass is not always greener on the other side 😂. Is to hot , too humid and rain every day on summer from June to end of September .
@tommyv5866
@tommyv5866 10 күн бұрын
Yeah you might wanna stay where your at until the housing market fixes itself
@AndyB718
@AndyB718 9 күн бұрын
Don't believe these end of world predictions. Florida has been through this many many times in the past.
@william-fla-321
@william-fla-321 7 күн бұрын
Try Italy or Albania.
@magicparkmemories
@magicparkmemories 9 күн бұрын
They lack a variety of food stores. Publix is over priced and over rated
@Bob-bb3ur
@Bob-bb3ur 8 күн бұрын
Publix Supermarket is no higher than anyone else and they have BOGO'S every week
@buffycat4641
@buffycat4641 7 күн бұрын
I loved Publix when I lived in Florida, would love to have them open up a store where I live now!
@Bob-bb3ur
@Bob-bb3ur 7 күн бұрын
@@buffycat4641 They have good BOGO's
@shadowfax9177
@shadowfax9177 8 сағат бұрын
Id say you get what you pay for. The quality and variety of food(for those who like organic/gluten free etc) is amazing. Winn Dixie's produce isn't as good and Aldi doesn't have that big of a variety.
@petegurdal1844
@petegurdal1844 9 күн бұрын
Yes it is! $100,000 Condo Assessment Property Taxes Insurance Traffic Hot weather House prices
@josephnessschmoe2864
@josephnessschmoe2864 7 күн бұрын
Good leave. In early 2000s I met people that were leaving. Bye!
@gregoryadams723
@gregoryadams723 4 күн бұрын
West palm beach is still doing great
@Blackcloud_Garage
@Blackcloud_Garage 3 сағат бұрын
If you’re lucky enough to own a home good luck paying for homeowners insurance. Every year fewer and fewer companies are offering affordable coverage. We’re on company number three in six years. On the Atlantic Coast there have been so many “ambulance chasing” lawyers who have fleeced the insurance companies by replacing an entire roof when there’s only one broken shingle it is almost impossible to find anyone to insure your home. Suuuuuper crowded, crazy high cost of living, high local taxes, bumper to bumper traffic and new comers from the north east who are rude a-hole’s has made the decision for us to leave. We can’t wait to sell our house and move away.
@psilocyborg125
@psilocyborg125 12 күн бұрын
We full go away
@Nandito-Greatness
@Nandito-Greatness 12 күн бұрын
Ahh feel like equal out people that come in and people moving out. Saw Florida was baby 90s and see Florida now mind blown how city got bigger. One day make it to Florida
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@56strine
@56strine 5 күн бұрын
I am a San Francisco Native and a resident of the San Francisco Bay Area. I have visited Florida about 7 times. I have been on a cruise out of Florida. Most of our trips are usually to Orlando, Florida. I have been to Tampa Bay, Florida one time. I have tried to convince my wife to purchase a short term rental near Disneyworld, Florida. We will have our Silicon Valley, Santa Clara, California house paid off in about 4 years. I will try to ask her again. After our house is paid off. My wife does want to sell our two story house. She wants a one story house. We will probably sell in less than 5 years. I can not live full time in Florida. I would miss the hills and mountains in California. We will probably look to purchase a one story house in Orange County, California in about 5 years. We will first look to be close to Disneyland, California. I will than try to convince my wife to purchase a short term rental near Disneyworld, Florida.
@faraon2012
@faraon2012 11 күн бұрын
We need to leaving from usa 😢
@terrencereardon6374
@terrencereardon6374 4 күн бұрын
I lived there for six years and I was miserable. They hated Heavy Metal music and also the restaurants sucked, Hypo-Christians, panhandlers, Mexican illegal aliens doing landscaping at 6 AM, bullied and harassed by drug addicts, gays hitting on me regularly and Hurricane Wilma was a nightmare. Plus you need A/C 24/7/365 and just my luck my A/C in my house and my car went on the same day in August 2010 and was more fuel to the fire to make like a banana. Egyptian doctors giving me a brain scan when I said I have Autism. Always had issues either vacationing there OR living there. I realize that the “blue” states have better doctors and dentists and music scenes than FLORIDUH. Your state spawned the Hell of music aka Boy Bands/the careers of Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Creed and Limp Bizkit. Enough said. Plus going to concerts and sporting events and getting into fights with drunks and locals was enough. Only friends I made and left me to shop in peace were the equestrian people who were in Wellington for the Winter Equestrian Festival and I joked about the beautiful women getting away with wearing tall riding boots and breeches in public and they were all not snooty but quite friendly and surprisingly nice and polite and let me shop in peace and joked with me about being a walking advert for Nike shirts, shorts and sneakers. Some of the competitors were there for the winter months but others were locals. I left Florida in February 2012 for Mass and when I saw snow falling for the first time in nine years it was a sight for sore eyes. I appreciate the change of seasons more since I left the South. You don’t have to be a DINO nor a RINO to know that both political parties are a f’n joke.
@retiredlogman
@retiredlogman 10 күн бұрын
Florida is a very diverse state. Many people do not do their homework before coming here. There are much quieter areas within the state, and more financially reasonable. Look around before deciding on a location.
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 10 күн бұрын
"Do your homework" is great advice. Thank you for sharing.
@freddyramirez5818
@freddyramirez5818 12 күн бұрын
Overall With all The Up and Down Florida it Not Worth Living There as a Visitor It’s Great at Other Than That it’s Not 😢
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 12 күн бұрын
Even though I don't agree with it, I appreciate you sharing your perspective. Thank you
@rondipierro8677
@rondipierro8677 8 күн бұрын
I might move there it'll probably be a big mistake but I'll probably do it anyway
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 8 күн бұрын
It is what you make of it. Living here has completely changed our lives for the better.
@rondipierro8677
@rondipierro8677 7 күн бұрын
@@trulivingtampa being born and raised on Long Island and living North of San Diego now plus many visits to Florida I think all the beaches are nice. I don't think you can really vote one over the other . Out here they don't want to do anything about crime but in Florida they have more crime. But the fact I can carry kind of makes that okay. Our groceries are cheaper but your gas is cheaper and you have no state income tax so that's good. We have no humidity but I should be able to re adapt to that. So if I could sell my place now and going to the Retirement Resort here I'll stay here if not I'll come out there and buy a townhome cash that I won't have to keep driving the truck 60 hours a week I could get some little old job. So we'll see
@americanedokko2782
@americanedokko2782 5 күн бұрын
CRAZY housing cost, INSANE homeowners and car insurance cost, HIGH AS A KITE cost of living, crowded everywhere and living in an OVEN from May - Sept. Umm…N-F-W
@gabyfields3235
@gabyfields3235 6 күн бұрын
I prefer the "coastal living" along the shores of Lake Michigan.
@slumy8195
@slumy8195 6 күн бұрын
anywhere with water is coastal living whether it be at the great lakes or east south or west coasts ect.
@gabyfields3235
@gabyfields3235 6 күн бұрын
@@slumy8195Yeah, but the Great Lakes are one of the largest freshwater reservoirs in the world, and a great place to be when the rest of the world runs out if water, lol😮
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 6 күн бұрын
I’m from Michigan. The Great Lakes are incredible as long as you can handle the long, grey, cold winters.
@gabyfields3235
@gabyfields3235 6 күн бұрын
@@trulivingtampa We are old and retired, but we make the best of the winters, no problem. We take walks or go cross-country skiing. The change of the seasons still beat the unbearable heat in FL, TX, NV or AZ!
@Chiefmaker75
@Chiefmaker75 6 күн бұрын
Luckily we've worked from home since moving near Disney since 2016. Otherwise, we would hate living here due to traffic. We bought with a 2.8% interest rate and our home has tripled since then also. Even though we hate the traffic, there is nowhere in the country we would rather live due to the amount of amenities and entertainment here. We literally have it all and if you get bored here, it's your own fault.
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing. 2.8% is like winner the lottery today. Congratulations!
@rodman50
@rodman50 7 күн бұрын
We left Florida and we're glad to be gone. Our mover told us that previously, most of the moves were into Florida. Now, it has reversed. Eight out of every ten moves now, is out of Florida.
@FloridaManConstruction
@FloridaManConstruction 6 күн бұрын
Good. Would like to get to 10 outta 10.
@AugieBenDougie-wk9pr
@AugieBenDougie-wk9pr Күн бұрын
@@FloridaManConstruction Don't be a rude to people.
@shannondavis5728
@shannondavis5728 5 күн бұрын
The run up in prices & taxes have run its course….major defaults,bankruptcies & price drops are starting to ramp up!!!!
@bergbryce
@bergbryce 8 күн бұрын
I don't think you understand what the word "freedom" means. Having your state government limit what a woman does with her own body and what you can read is not freedom. Also, your governor just slapped that word onto his anti-marijuana program offering more evidence this term means something else to many Floridians.
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective. While we may not agree, I respect your freedom to say so.
@richardadams6988
@richardadams6988 6 күн бұрын
Also, city government had a problem couldn't get qualified employees to run the city..because they just didn't pay enough..well obviously that has changed..
@SamanthaSmith-tv1jl
@SamanthaSmith-tv1jl 12 күн бұрын
Do you deal with long term rentals?
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 12 күн бұрын
We can help with rental of a single family, townhome, or condo. Just not apartments.
@karlap2846
@karlap2846 7 күн бұрын
I’m here in Jacksonville on vacation. Me and my kids visited Orlando and the beach. We have a good time, however I wouldn’t change California weather for this. I don’t care how cheap or gas price is better then California but I hate the weather here. It’s so depressing. I’m going back on few days I don’t think I’m coming back. The weather is horrible!!!
@slumy8195
@slumy8195 6 күн бұрын
how bad was it? been in cali all my life. The timid weather is nice but the house prices are unbearable
@dapperdino1996
@dapperdino1996 5 күн бұрын
@@slumy8195imagine living in a humid, sticky,suffocating sauna 7-8 months out the year. Only being able to enjoy the outdoors Dec-March.
@jeffsauer789
@jeffsauer789 2 сағат бұрын
That’s what’s great about the USA, you have 50 states to choose from. 🇺🇸
@LifeAsDane
@LifeAsDane 6 күн бұрын
Lets be real, my fellow real estate industry gulf coaster. People are NOT fleeing. Lot of BS youtube clickbait titles with no data to backup (thanks for your early spoiler about your title, i almost stopped listening 😂). The people leaving are ones that never became established OR cashed out on the amazing equity and are moving to spend that money or take advantage of that equity elsewhere. If you sell here you are just replacing that equity in a similar home with higer interest rate. We are blessed to live where others vacation. LfG!
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 6 күн бұрын
Agreed! 🌴😎
@AugieBenDougie-wk9pr
@AugieBenDougie-wk9pr Күн бұрын
Of course you are going to say this. You are a freaking realtor down here! Read the comments.
@nikkione
@nikkione Сағат бұрын
I won’t say it’s bad living here. It’s really not for everyone. I’ve lived in Tampa from Maryland originally and it’s not for me. I don’t like to be this hot for this long into the year. I miss seasons and good seafood. I also don’t like to navigate around so much homelessness on a daily basis Jobs really suck here especially office type jobs they are taken up by nepotism and hookups! We live paycheck to paycheck inflation is so real here. We don’t own so rent is crazy high. Add in the hurricanes and the crazy wildlife it takes a lot from you to take it all in. So Florida is a hot hassle that you need to be rich to live comfortably here. Don’t move here without extensive research!!!
@Kalash15-m6y
@Kalash15-m6y 7 күн бұрын
Nobody is leaving
@DanielMoreno-qv5xh
@DanielMoreno-qv5xh 11 күн бұрын
Born in Tampa I miss it so much
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 11 күн бұрын
Come back home if it makes you happy.
@DanielMoreno-qv5xh
@DanielMoreno-qv5xh 6 күн бұрын
I'm trying I'm currently in school in Chicago
@grantackerly3287
@grantackerly3287 12 күн бұрын
It's true that home prices have risen 80% since 2018 but a lot of homes are being renovated and flipped for much higher prices. Those houses should sell for more. That's baked in to that statistic and therefore a bit deceiving.
@trulivingtampa
@trulivingtampa 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@timsmith8391
@timsmith8391 12 күн бұрын
15/20k in remodeling doesn’t equal 180k
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