Truman Warns Japanese - 1945

[@jimgallagher2979]

One of my uncles used to joke that he was the reason the Japanese surrendered. He had enlisted, gone through basic and was on his way to the Phillippines when word got out they had surrendered. "They heard I was coming so they gave up," he always said.

[@hariharbelhekar8524]

Lmao

[@inrainbowman]

but japanese didn’t surrender because of your uncle, he was lying to you

[@jimgallagher2979]

@@inrainbowman As I said it was a joke.

[@burtvhulberthyhbn7583]

​@@jimgallagher2979I'm betting your uncle also told you how he saw grown men crying tears at the news now knowing they would live

[@starrfaithfull6934]

​@jimgallagher2979 Ignore the idiots on line. Bless your uncle.

[@WK12112]

Hard to believe this was only 7 years ago

[@jezer8325]

Damn. Time sure does fly

[@Daniel-dp6up]

Truman looks great for 130

[@gregthorne4292]

@@Daniel-dp6up Can't even tell he is a head in a jar.

[@stevenparker3541]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@garygolfer3243]

⁠@@gregthorne4292 The US has a head in a jar now.

[@HooDatDonDar]

Japanese Imperial War Council: “Aw, he’s just bluffing.”

[@locklear308]

Little bit later "oh shit"

[@thekamotodragon]

Narrator: (He was, in fact, not bluffing.)

[@cyclend3397]

"Here comes the sun" goes brr

[@TuanNguyen-ed5kf]

until the Fat Man and Little Boy were dropped...

[@FSF502]

BOOM

[@soralink411]

Truman the only dude to come out and say we will totally annihilate you while wearing a bowtie. Dude was metal

[@henkstoomflat8840]

People knew he would make trouble

[@ManMan-bd5fd]

he was bi- ass mason. fk him

[@gerardmoran9560]

Many Japanese in power viewed Truman as a mild-mannered haberdasher from the mid-west who could easily be overwhelmed. Well, he was a mild-mannered haberdasher (a term falling into disuse, but I like it) from the mid-west. He wasn't overwhelmed.

[@warren2010]

Dude was not metal, he was mental!

[@soralink411]

how?@@warren2010

[@jeschoofs]

“Fuck around and find out” - Harry S Truman, 1945

[@heygoodbyee]

Lmaooo I love this comment

[@champagnegascogne9755]

"No, MacArthur. We ain't nuking Korea 8 times." -Harry S. Truman, 1950

[@chadzahirshah2588]

@@champagnegascogne9755China*

[@dathip]

HAHAHAHAHA

[@recordguy4321]

our last GREAT president

[@ポップパンク和訳]

Hard to believe a nation that was once enemies with us became one of our closest allies

[@sacredprovenance]

New threats arise. Japan, The US and others have a common enemy now and it’s at their best advantage to be allies.

[@johndardi1334]

That’s what happens when you drop two atomic bombs on a country.

[@tritium1998]

The USA controls and monitors Japan, so of course it has to be an ally. People love Japan now because it's not a successful economy anymore, although there was plenty of Japanophobia in the 1980s if you do research.

[@exoels]

@@sacredprovenance Allies? Bullshit they are our subject

[@CreatorsHubCreates]

USA and Japan make each other too much money to fight

[@thekamotodragon]

He forgot to put "deadass" at the end of his speech so the Japanese weren't sure if he was serious or not..... He was.

[@laurentroland6847]

On G, no cap.

[@patrickt7]

"He fr fr cappin his ass off ngl" - Imperial Japanese War Cabinet, 1945

[@colonelkfc33]

"Don’t let that crybaby in here again..."

[@michaelhutchings6602]

Truman was right.

[@motorbreathjz]

i wonder if he actually said that to oppen back in the day..

[@neerajnongmaithem392]

its just for drama guys.@@motorbreathjz

[@mister_dadstersays_hi7372]

​@@michaelhutchings6602 "this is maga country now" Truman.

[@Cheatoz]

@@motorbreathjz no. the words are true, but historically, Truman said it after Oppenheimer left the oval office and not to his face.

[@kieranogrady2425]

"If the Japanese insist on continuing resistance, beyond the point of reason..."

[@fogpivvl8341]

@Donovan Stone the problem is that if they did that, or showed the testing of the first bomb in New Mexico, they would have faced serious issues had the second bomb not functioned properly. It was an extremely untested technology, one issue could have caused the bomb to not function and that would have has major effects on US and Japanese confidence

[@melodycryderman110]

@@fogpivvl8341 before the first bomb atomic energy was super hyped in media, there is one interview you can look up where a reporter actually asks Eisenhower to clarify if atomic weapons would ever be used by police. The soldiers who were a mile from the first bombs hypocenter in a trench were absolutely horrified afterwards but it was a great success for the time and the soldiers were banned from speaking of it to anyone unless the wanted to be tried for treason. The engineers who created it feared it and if I recall correctly suggested that it be used as a demonstration at first. The public afterwards was pretty pro atomic bombs still, until years later when people started to be exposed to stories of Japanese survivors. Even some Japanese citizens welcomed the bomb because it saved them from being sent to a definitive death sentence by their emperor. Crazy times.

[@TheEmeraldMenOfficial]

@@fogpivvl8341 Yep! Four warheads were built after the Gadget (used at Trinity as the first nuke): Fat Man and Little Boy were just two of them. In fact, Little Boy was not supposed to be used on that mission: they were going to use one named Thin Man instead, but it was found to have a defect that had ruined the warhead over time. Little Boy was, simply put, the Plan B. The last one was set aside as a backup for Fat Man if memory serves: thing is, Fat Man’s deployment was pretty much flawless.

[@TheEmeraldMenOfficial]

@@melodycryderman110 Yep. Also, the next target planned if they hadn’t surrendered after Nagasaki? The city of Tokyo, itself, including the Imperial Family which had refused to disgrace themselves by hiding away. America basically said, “Thought we didn’t have another? We’re not stupid. We also know Hirohito is in Tokyo, and what you all think of him. Now: Say “Uncle Sam”, or we’re wiping your prized living god, and all of the backups, from Earth’s hard drive. Clear?”

[@erenyeager9371]

Reminds me of attack on titan, the world refuse to back off then Eren launch the rumbling

[@Conn30Mtenor]

He wasn't playin'.

[@LawOfNonContradiction]

"Fuck around and find out" - Truman

[@Conn30Mtenor]

@UnitedStatesofAmerica1984 knowing the mind of the Japanese militarists, they wouldn't have believed it. Their plan was to kill as many Americans as possible and scare the Americans into coming to terms favourable to Japan. BTW, the rice harvest of 1945 failed. The Americans could have waited until their were millions dead of starvation and a communist revolution. The a-bombs were the best option.

[@codythedoggo7671]

​@UnitedStatesofAmerica1984Japan probably wouldn't have surrendered, even seeing the footage

[@jadenn.hernandez7784]

BACK WHEN PRESIDENTS WORE BOW TIES

[@darthvader5830]

...back when Presidents knew what they were doing..

[@jadenn.hernandez7784]

Éamon De Valera lol trump knows what he's doing, its the last few presidents that didnt

[@LuhanPark]

@@jadenn.hernandez7784 lolllll yeah he does lol

[@zephergaming4437]

Éamon De Valera None of them knew what they were doing

[@zephergaming4437]

Jaden N. Hernandez you are legit the turkey that voted for Christmas

[@y4g3r44]

Even Oppenheimer, 20 years after the fact, approved of the use of the atomic bomb to end that war.

[@thetf8142]

That’s after he fully understood the bomb, he was mostly scared of what it was capable of, and looking back decades later, he was right

[@casesoutherland4175]

And that's how Harry Truman created Godzilla....

[@westfletcher9219]

Godzilla is their defense

[@zombieo_43]

@N O Godzilla exists fucking everywhere...

[@surojitpal3948]

Eminem created Godzilla

[@scubahellodon1]

Now that’s funny

[@blueripper1558]

I mean besides Zilla it's amazing the movies they made after getting nuked, it truely takes horror to make art

[@truman2794]

That's what i do when i get angry

[@johnlunsford7613]

Truman go

[@exploretheinternet2334]

tbh first when i learned about ww2, i was like, they should not have nuked japan but this single video changed my mind so japan was basically asking for it

[@greenoranges9156]

Explore The internet The Japanese believed that the best thing a person could do is to die in war and the worst thing is surrendering

[@exploretheinternet2334]

@@greenoranges9156 so In short, They were being STUPID CASE CLOSED

[@exe4747]

@Sneed Feed And Seed yeah and on your home

[@Elongated_Muskrat]

This speech was made 1 June 1945, the Trinity Test was 16 July 1945. Truman is more referring to firebombing every city until capitulation but the militarists took this as an indicator of weakness and unwillingness to invade.

[@jgdooley2003]

It is ironic that the B29 was designed for high altitude precision bombing of targets in Germany from bases on the US east coast in the event of loss of Great Britain as a bomber base. It ended up being used at medium altitudes employing incendiary bombs on a carpet bombing technique on Tokyo. While the nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the most noted bomber raids of WW2 each of the fire storm raids on Dresden and Tokyo caused more tha 100,000 deaths EACH.

[@Thunderchild-gz4gc]

@@kegginstructure you're repeating leftist garbage

[@JohnMotamed]

@@kegginstructure A-bomb was a decisive factor. One A-bomb on Tokyo = no emperor to reign. And I believe Japan was in American zone of control so Soviets could not occupy any part of mainland Japan after she surrendered. Allies had specified those zones during three conferences in Tehran, Yalta and Potsdam as part of plan for New World Order.

[@martytrueblood5902]

then Truman lost his war dept.. paid reparations to Japan and Germany.. and made UN the law and subject to NATO.. USA is a vassal and broke

[@understand6970]

@@jgdooley2003 there's only 25.000 death in Dresden raid. Stop spouting Goebbels propaganda and go study the finding that's been conducted by the city of Dresden itself.

[@twisterwiper]

Crazy how the world can change. Once sworn enemies, now allies and partners. Let’s not forget that in today’s world.

[@haydengalloway5177]

We firebombed all their cities burning their women and children alive and shocking them into surrendering. Then set up a military administration regime that dictated every aspect of their lives for 10 years. Now we're best friends. I'm pretty sure that's called Stockholm syndrome.

[@VR36030]

@@haydengalloway5177 Like Germany, Japan realized they can dominate the world peacefully and be more successful than their imperialist predecessors ever could. One of the great new realities about the post WW2 world is that it allowed both small countries (Example: Singapore) and demilitarized countries (Example: Japan) to nonetheless achieve great power and living standards. This was not possible before WW2.

[@aldrinmilespartosa1578]

There are no permanent allies nor enemies. Only interest.

[@bichodelodo]

More like defeated and conquered.

[@ap.39315]

Yeah that's how the world's been like for millenia. Civilizations fight each other in some periods, and in other they become allies. I'm quite certain there will be a time in the next 100 or 200 or so years when the US & Japan will become enemies again, and perhaps fight. The world keeps spinning after all.

[@cursed_afford5620]

"We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed... A few people cried... Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture the Bhagavad Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty, and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form, and says, "Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." -J. Robert Oppenheimer

[@littlestanker]

That’s epic

[@jefolson6989]

Oppenheimer showed up at the white house, telling Truman they had the blood of millions on their hands. Truman said " no, it on MY hands"and kicked him out. ( as reported in TRUMAN , the great book by David McCollough. ) met Truman when I was a child. My grandfather was a Lawyer in Independence, MO. They knew eachother when HT was a judge.

[@danielkalmar3799]

@@jefolson6989 That is an insane connection. Very cool

[@jamessollazzo4860]

@@jefolson6989 balls of steel!

[@PickedOff100]

Is that what your cow said, really? What about your goat silent .

[@ronherrera8327]

At the time of that speech my father was a prisoner of war in Bataan, if those bombs had not been dropped I would have never been born.

[@mattcorcoran7082]

Not worth it

[@boydwhite3708]

Much respect.

[@boydwhite3708]

@@mattcorcoran7082 Consider repenting for such a crappy statement. Being a prisoner in any Japanese camp was unfathomably hard. And do some digging into what the Japanese did to Manila as they retreated. They did need to be smacked down...and smacked down hard.

[@orkkojit]

@@mattcorcoran7082 lmao sick burn

[@vanpenguin22]

My dad was an ensign aboard a tender in Adm Spruance's navy. No bomb, no go home. He would have been in the south Pacific throughout the invasion of the home island. Who knows what would have happened

[@Shah-of-the-Shinebox]

Kim Jong Un would be terrified of Harry.

[@maddyg3208]

I'm not sure about that. I think McArthur wanted to use nukes during the Korean War but Truman said no

[@RaceGaming-gw5se]

I think he means if Truman was president now and had America’s current nuclear abilities

[@nicolepatterson5078]

@MegaMrblackguy they were able to say it in a civilized way though.

[@BaconMaken]

@MegaMrblackguy Do you like making yourself look like an idiot over the internet?

[@brittnaeprince8875]

@MegaMrblackguy and America still has nuclear weapons

[@sfm5s]

My father was 19 years old and dragged out of Europe, brought home and sent by rail on troop trains to the west coast where on august 6th they were told of the dropping of the bomb. The entire train was bedlam as these soldiers all were pulled from front lines in Europe and were to be used in the invasion of the Japanese mainland. They were told that they would expect 7 million casualties to take Japan. Needless to say every man on that troop train was more than overjoyed when news came that the bomb had pretty much sealed the fate of the Japanese empire.

[@lilyflower4962]

I had read that MacArthur's estimate was 1 million allied soldiers, because he knew the mind of the Japanese, having spent much of his young life in that part of the world. He knew they would never stop, because in that day they believed their emperor was a god, and would gladly all sacrifice themselves for him. He recommended drastic action...the nuclear bomb. I recommend the book American Caesar, which is a biography of him. He was truly a great man. I really believe without him the war in the Pacific would have been much worse.

[@alanduncan1980]

Dropping nukes was completely immoral. You forgot to mention that.

[@lilyflower4962]

@Trannykiller9000 In October 1905, MacArthur received orders to proceed to Tokyo for appointment as aide-de-camp to his father. A man who knew the MacArthurs at this time wrote that: "Arthur MacArthur was the most flamboyantly egotistical man I had ever seen, until I met his son."[27] They inspected Japanese military bases at Nagasaki, Kobe and Kyoto, then headed to India via Shanghai, Hong Kong, Java and Singapore, reaching Calcutta in January 1906. In India, they visited Madras, Tuticorin, Quetta, Karachi, the Northwest Frontier and the Khyber Pass. They then sailed to China via Bangkok and Saigon, and toured Canton (Guangzhou), Qingdao, Beijing, Tianjin, Hankou and Shanghai before returning to Japan in June. As I stated "that part of the world", which included time in Japan. He knew the oriental mindset. However apparently some research says he was against using the bomb, which appears to differ from the book American Caesar. I stand by my statement though, in that he had spent much of his young life in that part of the world. Last time I looked, the Phillippines was in THAT part of the world!

[@lilyflower4962]

@@alanduncan1980 As opposed to what other aspect of war? The best thing is to end it quickly, and hopefully in your favour. That is what the A-bomb did.

[@JT-yz4rj]

@@lilyflower4962 Seems fair enough to me after the Japanese spent almost a decade prior to the war, and the war itself massacring, raping, murdering, torturing every one of their neighbors they could for material gain. Then attack the United States with complete knowledge that they could never win anyway. Play imperialist games, win imperialist prizes.

[@near--zero]

To Japan, it was not so much about trying to win at this point as it was about trying to preserve the Emperor's regime and control of the nation. Still though to have the allies (your enemy) deliver such a decisive and ominous warning, so well articulated with so little hyperbole, it must have shaken some of the Japanese advisors.

[@zacharysymons7389]

Japan was going to surrender as soon as Russia joined the war against them. In fact they did not immediately surrender after the bombs, but when Russia officially declared war(3 days later).

[@mmmhmmm8236]

@@zacharysymons7389 Lol even when the bombs dropped the military attempted a coup to reverse the emperor's decision for peace. Having a very destructive weapon that you do not know how many amounts the US have is much scarier than any conventional army could. So much for your Soviet theory

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

And ironically America preserved his regime. So the USA didn’t really need to nuke Japan lol

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

@@mmmhmmm8236 Japan feared the USSR more than they did the Americans. Nuking a city is like fire bombing. Tokyo looked just like Hiroshima and Nagasaki after WW2. It’s why they didn’t surrender after the first two bombs. Japan feared being destroyed by the Soviet Union like they did in Eastern Europe and the Japanese knew that if they at least surrendered to the United States their society would be preserved. (And the USA made Japan one of the greatest nations on Earth) And US officials knew this, Truman was wanting to show a sign of strength to intimidate Stalin, many U.S. officials knew the nukes wouldn’t scare Japan, they were gonna keep fighting until the end but when Stalin got involved that’s when the Emperor finally avicated.

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

@John Jennen that doesn’t mean Japan wasn’t scared enough of the USSR to end up surrendering to the USA.

[@pololedodo7981]

If I was Japan I would surrender. He is scary.

[@usul573]

Defeatism could get you killed in the Japanese or German governments of the time.

[@ElonMasks]

@@usul573 bruh

[@MLarios97]

He is scary? LMAO. I guarantee you that japan was much more scarier. If japan had the nukes, america probably would be a radioactive wasteland

[@StrayingCat]

@@MLarios97 Yeah, nothing screams scary like a relatively underdeveloped country of manlets

[@coryleblanc]

how would you have surrendered? please elaborate

[@gtlecannon3496]

At the time of this speech my father just finished basic training in the USMC. If those bombs had not been dropped he would have been one of the first ashore when the US invaded the Japanese homeland. I’m pretty sure he would not have survived and I wouldn’t be here today.

[@markr1550]

My father was on a new air craft carrier heading to Japan to become the flagship of the invasion force. I'm guessing that there would be a good chance of the same for me.

[@vernfb5189]

My dad had also just finished basic training at the time this was broadcast. I used to argue with him though that it wasn't just the bombs that ended the war. The japanese military didn't care, as far as they were concerned the war wasn't over until every single citizen was dead. What led to the emperor making his decision to over-ride the military was 3 things. 1- the bombs. 2- The Soviet invasion of manchuria and 3- the horrible starvation that was affecting the entire population.

[@markr1550]

@@vernfb5189 Add to that Hirohito's intervention in the war council which was evenly split. It was risky, and he knew it had to be the right time, or the military may have held a coup.

[@snydedon9636]

Good to hear you are so optimistic.

[@VersusARCH]

USSR entry to the war would have made Japan sue for peace anyway.

[@wilrobles5392]

No drama. No outrageous comments. Just quickly and concisely telling the Japanese rulers what will take place.

[@vivaindian]

Are Japanese are more evil than German's? Or they knew it this is only power of 3rd world country, best place for nuclear experiment on human civilization? Actually American were cowards, until or unless they attacked in Pearl Harbour they didn't bother about it. For them this is just a European war affairs nothing else. Hitler did mistake to engage with Russian and Japanese did mistake in Pearl Harbour else they will till rule almost half of world.

[@haydengalloway5177]

Telling a country that you will target their women and children if they don't surrender is a pretty outrageous comment.

[@wilrobles5392]

@@haydengalloway5177 War is hell, and tough decisions need to be made. Besides, you’re being disingenuous. He said nothing about targeting women and children. He gave the Japanese fair warning. They didn’t yield, surrendered, or listened. The rest is history.

[@jimjam51075]

"After we're done with you, your new source of pride as a nation will be making cartoons and backward comic books about schoolgirls." Total own by the U.S.

[@pirrracy]

@@haydengalloway5177 Women and children were killed during the attack on Pearl Harbor. Anything to say about that?

[@mississippiball1003]

Truman: give up Japan: lol no Truman: drops atomic bombs Japan: :|

[@justsomeguywithoutamustach6755]

Nani?

[@ThePysen100]

*Japan: -_-

[@DrHugoZQuackenbush]

Last Democrat I would vote for. End of Story.

[@Rivan98]

and they again did not surrender because of that but because russia betrayed them

[@mississippiball1003]

@@Rivan98 Hirohito surrendered but the Japanese Soldiers didn't

[@kemurajohn1249]

Truman warns Japan to surrender Japan: Baka~ Truman: I'll show you who's Baka

[@Presentive]

Baka -cow lolol

[@marthaindahouse1010]

japan is being a sussy baka

[@booqrdoit9138]

@@marthaindahouse1010 Truman cooked them too long in that microwave

[@ujoepost]

​@@booqrdoit9138😂

[@MiaMia-px5xo]

And unfortunately japanese still have Stockholm Syndrom lol.

[@A_Sturm]

This Harry guy seems like will drop some hard beats

[@ernestcashion4462]

My dad was in Fiji with the Americal division and the running joke was I hope the island doesn't sink under the weight of all the supplies. We had so much stuff and 8 million men if we hadn't dropped the bombs and killed 150-200,000 we would have killed 1,000,000 and then invaded. The Japanese were defenseless against the B-29's with Mustang escorts and there were pilots and planes arriving every day. He said they were going 24/7 getting supplies to where they needed to be and then, they were trying to get themselves and all the shit home as quick as possible. Dad didn't get home until Easter of 1946 .

[@nittany272]

Truman: Now we can do this the easy way or we can do it the hard way. The choice is yours. Also Truman: okay, I see you choosin the hard way

[@l337pwnage]

You never cave to American apes. Luckily for the world, America probably won't be around all that much longer.

[@nittany272]

@@l337pwnage all you accomplished here was making me laugh a year later at my own joke 👍🏻🇺🇸

[@l337pwnage]

@@nittany272 What's really funny is China salvaged all those sunk American vessels. 🤣 And I just watched a vid about some Amerimutt who got himself killed in Ukraine. So, enjoy your laugh, and go eat some McDonalds, lol.

[@thecuss6817]

My father was in the Army Air Corps in WW2 in Europe. Truman's decision made it that he did not have to go to the Pacific.

[@apollofell3925]

I wrote an essay about Truman's choice for my college history final. My thesis was that I'd hate to be Truman.

[@darrenmc1986]

It also lead to >200k innocent people dying...

[@apollofell3925]

@@darrenmc1986 it was estimated millions would die in a full-scale invasion of Japan. The scale of a naval force needed to invade Japan to end the war would have dwarfed the invasion of Normandy - and the invasion of Normandy cost over 400,000 lives, twice what the atomic bombs did. Women and children had been trained to fight the allied forces every step of the way. Now imagine if you had invaded Japan to the tune of millions of Japanese and American lives and at the end of the war, people found out you had a weapon that could have ended things months earlier - do you think those people would be happy to find out you instead chose to send their brothers and sons to their deaths?

[@Chuked]

@@darrenmc19861 million more would have most likely died if the invasion took place though so lives were in fact saved

[@obligatoryusername7239]

​@@darrenmc1986Germany lost 6 to 7 million people in WW2, at least 500K of them were civilians. Are you going to moan about us beating the Nazis too?

[@michaelh4227]

Truman: Give up or we have to use the nuclear option on you. Japanese: What does that mean?

[@greghanna7753]

War is always terrible but sometimes it's inevitable. Pray for peace between countries and cultures.

[@jjrj8568]

The ultimate "believe me and obey, or else..." moment in human history

[@justnoah2073]

He forgot to clarify he was being unironic about it.

[@bradyfry8031]

Though he wasn't very popular when he left the presidency, Truman's legacy has been seen quite favorably as decades have gone by.

[@richardcarson7094]

A greatly underrated president to those who don't study the history.

[@miketackabery7521]

A great man. We haven't seen his equal since.

[@hnys7976]

He was the poorest president. He left the white house and went to his home state on a train where the people saluted him.

[@TheManWhoLaughs2008]

His biggest criticism was getting involved in the Korean War right after WWII.

[@TheManWhoLaughs2008]

@@miketackabery7521 Definitely the last decent Democrat.

[@Andrico77]

Interesting how Japan and Germany were almost obliterated yet came out the other side as allies and strong successful economies. Says lots about the culture and will of the people.

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

Marshall Aid rebuilt Europe.

[@dougrose7334]

They are both strong cultures full of pride and not afraid to work hard. Other cultures just come to america to sponge off us while complaining about anerica. It's the reason Mexico will never be a world power.

[@jryer1]

Make no mistake, if Germany today knew it could conquer the U.S., they would in a heart beat. They are only our allies because they still believe we have superior might. The only reason an American should ever use a pistol is because his battle rifle is out of ammunition.

[@jakebarnes1950]

True, but it says even more about the USA and allies and how they treated their conquered countries. Marshall Plan (Google it) and the truly benevolent USA/Japan occupation after the war before we handed back Japan as a sovereign country.

[@dillianwhyte443]

And Veitnam.

[@aregonol8352]

0:52 i love this voice

[@egordonliddy697]

"What was in those bombs? Fertilizer?" -Diceman

[@Jborgzz1]

“There can be no peace in the world…” What an introduction.

[@Blahblahyah]

Wow. A President who could string sentences together.

[@hypnos9336]

yeah but could he define America in one word? "fhjhjkashjkdakjfjkasafiuimsorry"

[@Blahblahyah]

@@hypnos9336 you’re right, of course. And how could i forget his wisdom - “you ain’t black if you don’t vote for me”

[@codymoe4986]

George Dubya, I presume? "Fool me once"...

[@peterkropotkin6224]

He wasn't bluffing.

[@l337pwnage]

He's a puppet, he just did what he was told.

[@MiaMia-px5xo]

And God Almighty is not bluffing, and brought him to hellfire for eternity, because this guy was 10000x worse then Hitler!

[@sanswithoutsans]

Brave of Truman to come back to life and give this speech

[@alixfarron6730]

Such a very cringe comment

[@sanswithoutsans]

​@@alixfarron6730Ahh. I see your humor died in one of the air raids.

[@stan4now]

He deserves more credit than he's gotten, stepping up to the plate after FDR passed. His administration was as much FDR's as it was Truman's, following the same game plan. It's why the Allies prevailed. It was a global team effort.

[@theominousalyssa4832]

@@sanswithoutsans his humor got carpet bombed

[@MiaMia-px5xo]

No, he's in hellfire lol.

[@epa316]

Conventional firebombing killed more people than the atomic bombs did, yet firebombing and a total naval blockade did not force the surrender, even though Japan’s situation was militarily hopeless. They even rejected the Potsdam declaration in July 1945. They had multiple chances to surrender.

[@Red-Brick-Dream]

Yeah, but that's inconvenient for my irrational, childlike pacifism, so I'm just going to pretend it's not true and lie to your face if you tell me otherwise. (/s)

[@L0REN0R2Z0RR0]

They were about to surrender. Especially the second bomb was not necessary for that anymore, it only served scaring Russia from taking over Hokkaido and the three islands that they then took anyways. For me, that second bomb was a war crime and you can hear in every Truman speech or interview how he didn't care for the civilians they killed.

[@epa316]

@@L0REN0R2Z0RR0 Nice far-left conspiracy theory. No facts to back it up, though. Try reading a book: "Hell to Pay, Operation Downfall and the Invasion of Japan." It draws from primary sources (do you know what those are?) and makes it very clear how Japan had every opportunity to surrender.

[@nobonespurs]

they were on verge of surrendering , you are stupid

[@shinrasenpai33]

​@@L0REN0R2Z0RR0bro is jealous he's not american

[@stevejones8660]

The epitome of speaking softly and carrying a big stick.

[@MacJaxonManOfAction]

When you issue a warning, be sure to back it up. And Truman had his warning backed the fuck up * 40 kilotons.

[@MiaMia-px5xo]

And now he's swimming in hellfire. Well done!

[@-007-2]

At the time of this speech my father was a prisoner of war in Afghanistan and building his first mech suit out of scraps. 3 days later he blasted his way out of the camp and 19 days after that he punched an F-22 out of sky. It was all classified until he went on the news and declared: "I am Ironman". If Japan hadn't surrendered he'd probably have delivered victory to the Allies himself and I would still be here today.

[@shilohpuppy5649]

Cue Tony Iommi's classic dinosaur riff!

[@ms.550]

Get out of fiction

[@vijaysabarish9600]

Wow can’t believe your father was lewis strauss

[@giannistheoggod]

Did he ever meet captain america? 🤔

[@pR0ManiacS]

That's why i'm saying drugs are too easy to obtain nowadays.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

At the time of this speech my father was a gunnery officer on board a liberty ship criss-crossing the Atlantic. Prior to VE day they ferried all the tools of war. By June 1, 1945 they were ferrying mostly wounded and maimed westbound, and German and Italian POWS eastbound. Soon they deactivated their ship and went to Cuba to celebrate.

[@USNveteran]

My brothers father in law (USMC WWII) was on a troop ship off the coast of Japan in August 1945 awaiting the Invasion order. He and his buddies that had already survived several Island battles all believed they would not survive the Invasion. My father in law (USN WWII) was on a destroyer escort in the Pacific at this same time. I feel truly fortunate to have heard both of their stories first hand. It's hard to say if either of them would have made it home if we hadn't dropped the bombs. The question I would ask anyone who has doubts about using it is, what would you tell the families of those who died in an Invasion when it became known that we had the means to stop the war by using it and didn't". FLY NAVY!!!

[@nobonespurs]

there was not goign to be an invasion, russian had declared war

[@thomasfisher5742]

absolutely right.....almost 80 yrs with no world war 3.....why? The U.S not quibbling about the overall public view of their actions.....stay well

[@freespirit1975]

You are correct. My father, at 17 joined in December 1941 and was a Pharmacist's Mate and was tapped in the blanket draft for the first wave invasion of Guadalcanal. He avoided that because his doctor liked him and pulled him out of it. I think almost all of them in the first waves were killed. The Japanese specifically targeted the corpsmen I understand. He surely wouldn't have survived the invasion of the home islands.

[@moabman6803]

I don't think Russia knew what they were getting into. The Japanese Pacific theater was totally different than Germany. The Japanese were relentless. Plus I don't know if Russia could even get to Japan.

[@chadsilva6942]

To be fair, the men who survived ww2 went on to set up the downfall of the US. It would have been better had no bomb succeeded and they all died.

[@noregretcoyote1808]

‘ I am become death. The destroyer of worlds’

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

But isn't that "destiny."

[@l337pwnage]

Ok, boomer.

[@DOI_ARTS]

The japanese was in the "Fuck Around phase" early in the war. In 1945 they got into the "Find Out phase"

[@Timbrock1000]

JAPAN WAS A VERY DIFFERENT SOCIETY THEN. Until World War II, Japan was an undefeated country. It was a warrior society with a deep sense of pride, honor, and determination. Surrendering, even being defeated was considered shameful and dishonorable to one's name. This is why Japan refused to quit despite having their supply lines of petroleum and raw goods brought in cut off or blockaded. (Japan has no viable oil wells). After Germany surrendered, the Allied powers joined the U.S., Australia, and China. The U.S.S.R/ Russia, France, the U.K., Canada, the Netherlands, and others all declared war on Japan. The purpose of the Atomic bombs was not so much to kill innocent civilians, but rather to deliver a blow so hard, so devastating, that it would force Japan to surrender, to force an end to the war. Hiroshima was selected due to its massive factories that built weapons, ammunition, vehicles, and supplies for the military. An alternative plan to using the bombs was already bring considered by the Allies. This would involve all Allied militaries to conduct the most massive military invasion in world history. It would have been more that 20 times the size of the Normandy invasion. It would have been perhaps the bloodiest battle in human history. Allied fatalities were expected to be in the tens, possibly over obe hundred of thousand. But thankfully, the Bombs worked. Japan realized they had absolutely zero chance of winning. Indeed, the Bombs forced an end to the worst, most destructive, bloodiest war in World History. Before the Bombs were dropped, U.S. planes canvassed target cities at night with cards aimed at civilians that read (In Japanese) "WARNING!! Massive bombing to occur in this area soon. Evacuate immediately. Pass this card on.".

[@luisgabrielramos7923]

Thanks for this, it was really helpful.

[@tritium1998]

Plenty of other countries in WW2 had a deep sense of honor and determination despite having less equipment. The Japanese Empire pretty much started all its wars with sneak attacks. In fact, the Japanese hardly put up a fight against their own Unequal Treaties, and the Western colonialists helped the Japanese emperor come to power by destroying the samurai clans (weebs should know since they love The Last Samurai).

[@noelgrippen4707]

The UK was already at war with Japan from pearl harbour onwards.

[@Shaydanwase]

@Luis Gabriel Ramos and today America preaches about human rights Well f$ck human rights, it doesn't exist in reality

[@stan4now]

More like millions, same as in Germany. The Russians suffered the worst of it to be the first in Berlin.

[@SpaceRanger21]

At the time of that speech my father wasn't even born and my grandfather was living happily in a country that was mostly not affected by the war.

[@graceneilitz7661]

You are probably from a South or Central American country then.

[@Limitless_Synesthesia]

When the last guy in the game has bad guns, but you have better.

[@neoneherefrom5836]

And there’s video game nerd.

[@Limitless_Synesthesia]

@@neoneherefrom5836 Can't say they didn't win tho

[@martinlutherbling424]

"Hold my beer." - Harry S Truman, 1945

[@SkylinedTR]

He holding beer in the Hell as a killer of 250k innocent civillians.

[@breadfan262]

One month later was Trinity. Would be really interesting to hear Truman’s communication to Japan after that.

[@DanielCh9393]

The world was never the same after this calm and forgettable speech.

[@rickhale4348]

What's amazing is the Japanese leaders interpreted President Truman's message as a sign of weakness. It's not uncommon not to understand cultural and social differences. Very bad for Japan at the time. This death wish was likely Japan's greatest weakness. The loss of their most skilled people and the hardening of Americans resolve to defeat what was seen as a heartless and cruel enemy.

[@Warbr33d]

There was barbarism on both sides. Americans took plenty of Japanese skulls as war trophies. The following quote from a February 1946 issue of The Atlantic by war correspondent Edgar L. Jones says it all: 'We shot prisoners in cold blood, wiped out hospitals, strafed lifeboats, killed or mistreated enemy civilians, finished off the enemy wounded, tossed the dying in a hole with the dead, and in the Pacific boiled the flesh off enemy skulls to make table ornaments for sweethearts, or carved their bones into letter openers.'

[@rickhale4348]

@Warbr33d Ofcourse there are deviants in any society but it was more so with the Japanese. This caused a reciprocal response amoung some Americans. These horrible acts were hidden from the public were some peoples and cultures embrace savage evil. This is the problem with the moslems and their pagan religion. Only idiots and evil people ignore and condon evil. As a father and grandfather the way to stop evil is to "eliminate" it.

[@sputnikalgrim]

@@Warbr33dwhat’s your point? Causality is still relevant as is context and intent. Up until they invaded Pearl the US was engaged in peace talks and wasn’t particularly motivated to ho to war in Europe or the pacific. Japan made a series of very bad decisions regarding the US and they hot what they got. “War is hell” there is no polite war and there will always be winners and losers. Plenty of civilians died because a few power hungry men had bad intentions including Germans and Japanese, but those people chose not to revolt against those men and instead participate through indifference. It’s almost 2024 as I write this and how unsurprising it is that we have conflict in Eastern Europe and the Middle East and to nobody’s surprise civilians are still paying the price for the hatred and greed of a few men. I certainly wish the US wasn’t involved and I’m concerned that things will escalate but I’m also perfectly fine with whatever happens because “war is hell”

prove it

[@stevesmith1923]

@@Warbr33d Japanese were worse than the Nazis in WW2.

[@wayneedward7391]

This was another vice pres that turned out to be great!!

[@goldencrisp4671]

Who were the others?

[@wayneedward7391]

@@goldencrisp4671 George ,Lydon

[@goldencrisp4671]

Wayne Edward LBJ was a HORRIBLE president

[@historyeducator]

@@goldencrisp4671 TR is one.

[@raynavarro9838]

Wayne Edward Lyndon B. Johnson? You think he was good? We had some bad Vice Presidents becoming POTUS, just like the other Johnson.

[@areafurrynone1913]

The ultimate “fuck around and find out”

[@Dwight.DEisenHower]

Honestly the scene that cemented the MC's role in the story, the truman show was a banger

[@terminalmontageness6292]

USA: *Nukes Japan* Germany: all's well the that ends well right?

[@rangergxi]

Germany had already surrendered. They were too busy starving to say "wew, dodged a bullet".

[@superdude899]

@@rangergxi Hitler: But I didn't

[@jamiru_nahi3065]

@@rangergxi i guess german didnt surrender, its their downfall

[@imasnekLowery]

* Italy left chat*

[@Shaydanwase]

@@rangergxi Germany didn't surrender They got defeated and berlin was conquered

[@Fastbub]

Sadly innocent people paid the price for the actions of military.

[@ricardoangel9440]

When the rich rage war its the poor who die -fort minor afaik

[@LeathanL]

The actions of _the Japanese_ military.

[@osamait1522]

@@LeathanL I don't have enough information about that , but from the logical point japan attacked military target base pearl harbor , usa attacked tow big cities with civilian kids women's old and young and military . That is how it looks to me?

[@osamait1522]

@@xshxr I said I don't have enough information... Not educated as u said but it still looks like I explained it.

[@osamait1522]

I updated my info it looks like japanese attacked and killed hundred of thousands in asia mostly

[@NoellaScott]

Can’t imagine living through this. The greatest generation.

[@ModalGroove]

The most naive generation who created global communism and the death of all things good and natural in the world. You've been lied to your whole life. The good guys were the Axis

[@jesse73429]

Hard to believe this was only 8 years ago….

[@shan8130]

USA: We’re gonna do it Japan: Bet USA: Bet

[@stevegust2100]

Trivia fact. The US was expecting so many casualties from the invasion of Japan that they ordered lots of Purple Heart medals. How many? Enough to be used in Korea, Vietnam and Middle East

[@Abandoned2377]

Cant say the US was wrong when they gave a warning. Japan was too obsessed with image and honor. While being frankly dishonorable.

[@specialkcitizen6263]

Japand declared war in the US because the US had blockaded its access to oil. The US wanted war with Japan and at the end even though they didnt need to use those nukes they did it anyway to so how powerful they were to their adversaries. It mattered niot, the Sovites were were well on their way to getting their own bomb. Those 300,000 Japanese were murdered simply for show. Dropping those two bombs was an act of pure evil and of course a crime against humanity. The decision makers are all war criminals.

[@theendlessvoid7124]

​@@specialkcitizen6263 the Soviets didn't have a functioning nuclear bomb until 1949, and that was after sympathetic Manhattan Project scientists give them info. As for the influence of the bombs on Japan's surrender, it's literally quoted in the Japanese surrender speech.

[@iusetheforks]

Hard to believe that he did this 8 years ago

[@timdyer5903]

The speech is from 1945.

[@iusetheforks]

@@timdyer5903 that’s why it’s hard to believe

[@neilbeaton9498]

​@timdyer5903 no, it was posted 8 years ago, are you blind?

[@edwelndiobel1567]

US was pretty powerful back then. 12 million troops, 300,000 aircraft, 200,000 arti, 80,000 tanks, 2 million trucks, 28 aircraft carriers, 23 battleships, 71 light carriers, 70 cruisers, 400 destroyers, and 200 submarines. Crazy!

[@jaishree701]

Where' were gays 😂😂

[@greatadventures7378]

He tried to tell them

[@Twentythousandlps]

When the atomic bomb was successfully tested, Truman had two choices: to invade and bomb Japan, thereby sacrificing many thousands of Japanese and American lives, or to unleash the atomic bomb, thereby sacrificing many thousands of Japanese lives. He didn't lose any sleep over a choice like that.

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

Wrong. Japan would probably have surrendered anyway, and Washington could clearly have waited a few weeks to make sure they wouldn't. (The dreaded invasion was still three months away!)

[@Twentythousandlps]

@@Blaqjaqshellaq Utterly absurd statement to say Japan would have surrendered without either an invasion or not one but two atomic bombs.

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

@@Twentythousandlps The thing to remember is that the Japanese bureaucracy worked slowly...

[@scorpiong0]

That atomic bombs was not for Japan, Japan was already dead and it was a matter of time for surrender. That bombs were a strong warning against the Soviets wich kept the cold war just "cold".

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

@@scorpiong0 What kept it "cold"--with notorious exceptions like Korea and Indochina--wasn't just US possession of nuclear weapons but Soviet possession as well! (It's been suggested that Washington would have ended up nuking Russia if they hadn't lost their monopoly...)

[@RobertHowe-zv7gs]

President Truman was a strong leader when it was most needed.

[@russm535il]

Hero his decision saves many lives both allied and Japanese

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

False.

[@unbekannteruser2418]

Even I am scared of him. Not because he is frightening, but because he emits insane respect to me. I would immediately do whatever he wants in order to not get my ass bombed into oblivion.

[@Oldman808]

Truman woke up to whiskey every morning.

[@bobbysands6923]

@@Oldman808 So, that's the secret!

[@yungabdule6314]

even though he was reading off a card?

[@ChickentNug]

@@yungabdule6314 Preparing a speech before giving it is a sign of competence. It's stupid to me that people always say "but he was reading off a paper he prepared!!!!" like no shit dude, that's what you're supposed to do. It makes it possible to get the exact point across you intend to and keep it concise. That way you aren't just sitting there stammering and looking for words the whole time

[@yungabdule6314]

​@@ChickentNug "competence" is being able to say what you mean without needing to read off of a pre-written paper. If you can't give a speech without "stammering and looking for words", maybe you shouldn't be giving it. Being able to give a speech without reading off a paper is a sign of intelligence and confidence. That is what a leader should have. If he gave the speech but rehearsed it beforehand, that's fine because at least he'd seem like he was genuine, but it seems like he just went up there and read it off the paper.

[@stevenglansberg8561]

They didn't listen did they?

[@markusmitteregger8484]

Nationalism was a big thing back then. He had to do something to stop it but i still think an atomic bomb was way too much. rip

[@stevenglansberg8561]

@@markusmitteregger8484I don't know, a mainland invasion would've truly been hell considering the number of lives lost. I think part of it was Truman sending a message to the Russians. One thing's for sure that event had a huge impact on world history and there's no turning back.

[@markusmitteregger8484]

Youre right. Thanks

[@woodsss5521]

Would the Japanese surrender if they knew what was coming? - *Edward* They won’t fear it until they understand it. And they won’t understand it until they’ve used it. - *Oppenheimer*

[@wompstopm123]

This is scary but not as scary as what really happened after they didnt listen.

[@blackeymikey7061]

Its sad to see how roosevelt did not manage to live longer in order to see the awaited allied victory, but at least truman finished his legacy.

[@Harkness78]

He died before it was 100% completed but he knew it was resolved. Germany surrendered within 15 days of his death, and he knew Japan's Navy and war machine were completely decimated.

[@OldHickoryAndyJackson]

Old Boy Truman meant what he said 100%

[@BatmanHQYT]

Gary Oldman nailed his performance.

[@Aga-Meme-Non]

No he f***** up, he portrayed him as a dumb hick country-bumpkin who was bloodthirsty

[@Dragonfury3000]

Made him a bit of an asshole that I didn't liked

[@BatmanHQYT]

@@Dragonfury3000 "You think anyone in Hero-sheemer or... Nag-a-sacky gives a shyit who built the bomb? They care who dropped it! I did."

[@1eyeddevil929]

@@Dragonfury3000 thats because he was. he never cared about lives. just his status, credit and title.

[@takakocaesar579]

Damn… that just made me realize, he now played both Truman and Winston Churchill

[@Welsh7133]

Japan: America will never be ballin’ America: *Ballin’*

[@l337pwnage]

And now Japan is full of Japanese, and America is full of mongrels, lol.

[@beatlejim64]

They STARTED it in 1941...we FINISHED it in 1945!!!

[@visionist7]

And now all your cash is in their pockets

[@alphanerd7221]

@@visionist7 Sure, Japan has more money than the US, good one.

[@visionist7]

@@alphanerd7221 you probably own more Japanese goods than us ones

[@alphanerd7221]

@@visionist7 Your desperate lie isn't making you look less ignorant.

[@willemdafuck]

@@visionist7 Japan is a US vassal state lmao

[@jgk4259]

They fucked around, so they found out.

[@paulkweiner6577]

God Bless Harry S. Truman for having the courage and common sense to drop the nuclear bombs on Japan !!!

[@SubliminalFeels]

Absolutely! Some people in these replies really don't understand history

[@phoenixmagi2]

They ahould have given up and listened. They were warned.

[@Jurian2004]

Remember people, we tried to warn them, but they never listened. They payed for it.

[@patriciabradnorismakingpudding]

disgusting comment. you are a heartless person. People like you are whats wrong with the world

[@charlesburns7391]

The nuke was unjustifiable. All you Americans like to talk about how nuking two cities was necessary to end the war. Pick up a history book because your education system has clearly failed you

[@j.r.h.9265]

​@@charlesburns7391 tell that to the marines. had they not dropped those nukes, the whole Philippines might have been pulverized. the battle of manila and the manila massacre, where around 100k-500k civilians were killed (mostly babies, children and women used as human shields by IJA), were two of the reasons why the US dropped those bombs on Japan.

[@mikeray3453]

Truman was a great leader of history and wourld war 2

[@balancedactguy]

He only lead the US during the War for a few months!

[@jacobmarkham2162]

He also prevented the post war world collapse everyone predicted, make housing affordable in America, did more for civil rights than any president since Lincoln, the Marshal Plan, the Berlin Airlift, recognized Israel as a nation. And so many more things I don’t even want to type them all out. One of the 5 best presidents of all time.

[@greenoranges9156]

The only reason why I hate Harry Truman is because he fired General MacArthur who helped the USA win the Pacific Theatre

[@balancedactguy]

@@greenoranges9156 MacArthur had his firing coming. Truman was trying to bring the Korean War to and end and MacArthur was Publicly talking about how we should invade China and broaden the war.. MacArthur was a brilliant man who did not know when to keep his mouth shut. Truman asked General Omar Bradley his opinion about how to handle him and Bradley said of MacArthur :"Fire the SOB!"

[@greenoranges9156]

Mark Bondar It is weird that Japan used to be an enemy during WW2 and China and Russia used to be our allies during WW2 but now Japan is an ally and China and Russia are our enemies

[@markhatfield5621]

My father was 'too old to be drafted' until Pearl Harbor then he went through Holland, Belgium, France, and Germany. He was home on leave when the Atom bombs dropped. He had been told his unit would go to Japan to fight, instead he got his discharge. I suspect he didn't mind that bombing.

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

Japan surrendered due to the USSR.

[@markhatfield5621]

@@JamesRichards-mj9kw I have never heard that, would you provide more details?

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

@@markhatfield5621 Eisenhower and Leahy confirmed it.

[@Ms314159265358979323]

Time to take your medicine.@@JamesRichards-mj9kw

[@Player1776.]

Nice take bro. Care to back that up with some fucking evidence.@@JamesRichards-mj9kw

[@Garbs9430]

This is a real President.

[@JamesFriedman-jf4vs]

Spoken like a true follower of Christ

[@chanulmalwenna6094]

Let me rephrase that for you This is a real Murderer😂

[@justaneditygangstar]

@@chanulmalwenna6094unit 731 😂

[@justaneditygangstar]

@@chanulmalwenna6094🤡

[@thekamotodragon]

@@chanulmalwenna6094 yes he was, and he was brave enough to admit to it and not feel shame for his decisions afterwards. Being a real leader isn't about being the best or most moral person, it's about making the hard decisions that will make your group successful... and he did that. Being a "real president" as the OP put it, i think is about being a real leader who works to make the US win, and not what we have now.

[@omcorc]

What’s not being said here is that, along with Tokyo, much if the cities in Japan were already leveled from incendiary bombing. It’s part of the reason they picked Hiroshima and Nagasaki: they needed a fully intact city to show the power of an atomic weapon.

[@VinluvAntonHandesbukia]

"you didn't drop the bomb,I did,now get the fuck out of my office"

[@Slow_Biden]

Truman was the definition of "Fuck around and find out"

[@johnrockyryan]

Gary Oldman did fucking fantastic job as Harry Truman

[@BaconMaken]

On a scale between Harry Truman and a weeb, how much do you love Japan?

[@iambluexd]

i vote a strict "3rd bomb" out of 10

[@ayushkainturabca2644]

Answer: Yoshide Suga

[@EternalEmperorofZakuul]

North Korea

[@bobg6638]

“I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and have filled him with a terrible resolve.”

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

Fake quotation.

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

​@@JamesRichards-mj9kwNo, it isn't. Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto said this exact quote after Pearl Harbor. Sit down son. L + ratio + skill issue + get told.

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

@@lelouchvibritannia4028 It was invented for the 1970 flop "Tora! Tora! Tora!".

[@S.D.323]

​@@lelouchvibritannia4028all hail lelouch

[@winstein3689]

We even warned them...

[@joesantamaria5874]

Winstein indeed, and the morons in the military wanted to fight on. The Navy had been smashed, the Japanese Air Force was by then largely ineffective against the threat of bombing by B29s, even the mass suicide by Kamikaze did not lessen the resolve of the US. Yamamoto was long dead by this point, and the enemy was preparing every man, woman, and child to resist the throng of US Marines about to land. Truman warned them, and they refused to capitulate, even after we nuked them the first time.

[@jeandaniel2878]

You weren't even Born

[@winstein3689]

@@jeandaniel2878 "We as in Americans" Why do I have to explain this to you...

[@jeandaniel2878]

@@winstein3689 I'm not an American I'm Haitian so

[@winstein3689]

@@jeandaniel2878 ok.....?

[@강삼식-w3j]

Thanks a lot. God bless you and America. If Japan had surrendered , atomic bombs useless.

[@Touhou2006]

:)

[@gvalley07]

No aviator sun glasses, ice-cream cones, or babbling incoherence. We once had real leaders.

[@PremierAccount-f5g]

Hard to believe we fought them over little burnt out faraway volcanoes when Hawaii was just a territory. They were probably pissed we were encroaching on their territory "14,000 miles" away.

[@rubbersole79]

Japan got precisely what they asked for.