Trump vs Kamala DEBATE: Trump loses badly

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[@AstroGremlinAmerican]

Harris has shown herself to also be a bully, for example, in the confirmation hearings on Supreme Court Justice Kavanagh. Her staff report bullying and many have quit. Her facial expressions show she is practiced and capable of expressing utter contempt for another person.

[@GafferBob]

Thanks for your rational somber assessment. Although it's perhaps superficial, but I was wondering what your thoughts are about the Taylor Swift endorsement and whether it might move the needle in a significant way.

[@karenrobertsdottir4101]

As a reminder, Harris is up (538 and Silver averages) about ~0,5% in Pennsylvania pre-debate. PA + MI (+~2%) +WI (+~3%) = a Harris victory. And that's not the only path - for example, if she loses PA, but assuming still MI + WI, she can win with any three of the four: NC, GA, NV, AZ. NC and NV ares basically even. GA has Trump up a bit over half a percent, and he's stacked the electoral commission. 538 and Silver differ greatly on AZ - 538 has Trump up only 0,7%, while Silver has him up 2%. Silver's model has been kind of swinging around, so I tend to favour 538, but time will tell. Either way: a significantly less likely route, but still a possible route. Let's say she gains 1% from the debate. Nobody expects huge swings from the debate, but that's probably a realistic, if not pessimistic estimate. This puts her at up 1,5% in PA, 3% in MI, and 4% in WI. That's getting into the sort of territory where polling error swinging the election in the other direction is starting to look pretty unlikely. The alternative route turns into her being up 1% in NV and NC, up under half a percent in GA, and maybe around even or a touch behind in AZ Which also starts to look a lot more plausible. Of course, there's still two months left. Who knows what will happen in that time. The term "October Surprise" exists for a reason. But while anyone asserting that either side has some unassailable lead is living in a fantasy land, as things stand now, Harris is in the lead.

[@GafferBob]

@@karenrobertsdottir4101 I appreciate and share the optimism, but it's all about turnout and perhaps the "shy"Harris female supporter from a Trump household enjoying the power of the secret ballot.

[@elzian4975]

I feel like the reason Trump didn't jump on the "when did you find out about Biden's decline" line of argument, is that for some reason that is not naturally psychologically available to him, that he wished Biden stayed in the race, so that he is more inclined to go "how dare you push Biden out of office" instead of the politically more effective "why didn't you do this earlier?" line of attack.

[@robertmccormack1208]

"i have concepts of a plan" - american presidential candidate

[@JimmyRussle]

A candidate that WAS president already AND controlled the House and Senate in his first 2 years. They did NOTHING. Its a joke. Someone save us lol.

[@eztoindajar]

It’s so embarrassing

[@j.f.fisher5318]

I'll have to try that in my next job interview. "Yeah, I have concepts of experience with that technology."

[@Argosaxelcaos]

​@@j.f.fisher5318good old "theoretical degree in physics"

[@alex_lll]

​@@eztoindajarNot the most embarrassing thing he said that evening

[@yaketysaks]

22:10 If you are an ‘undecided voter’ who would be so put off by Kamala’s facial expression to the point that you would vote for Trump, you were always going to vote for Trump

[@whatevername8551]

This is true

[@ckcnj9175]

Agreed! I think undecided voters will vote for Harris or they will stay home due to apathy.

[@cyberneticbutterfly8506]

@@ckcnj9175 Or that decided voters who would always vote for Harris get complacent and have a really good reason that particular time when they 'planned to' go voting.

[@LackofFaithify]

If you are an undecided voter that doesn't make one of those faces when he talks about eating pets....you were always going to vote for Trump.

[@macmcleod1188]

Especially if you had voted for Trump twice previously as was the case with the "undecided" voter on CNN.

[@timcoffeysongwriting]

Three things I wished Kamala had addressed are: #1: Trump had 2 years when Republicans controlled both the House and Senate and he failed to secure the border, so there's no reason to believe he could succeed in a 2nd term. #2. Trump predicted the stock market would collapse if Biden were elected in 2020, and the stock market is higher than it ever was under Trump, while at the same time Trump Media stock is falling like a rock. #3: Trump added more to the national debt in one term than any other US president in history, which makes sense, because Trump's true talent is bankrupting things.

[@timtrewyn453]

And pumping that much public credit into the economy is a significant component of the inflation Americans have been experiencing.

[@kyelemoler]

Usually, in America, not a single dime could be appropriated unless approved by the House of Representatives.

[@LackofFaithify]

Here's the thing: undecided voters are the most self centered of all voters. They think about one thing and one thing only: what are you going to do for me now? Republicans and Democrats both have values, agree with them or not. Undecided voters are for themselves and not any sort of block or set of ideals. So telling them that Trump had the chance to do something at sometime in the past doesn't matter to them because frankly, they probably were not concerned about it then. They are now, so they want to know what will be done to shield them from what they think is coming for them from the borders. Same as the last response, that was then, they want to know what you will do to get them some financial assistance/help/hand-out now. The national debt talking point is a past point. Grover Norquist is no more (in the sense that his points are the stars of the show so to speak). The debt is something they don't think they should be responsible for thinking about, that's what the politicians are for, just get me what I want now. And the debate, more than anything, was about her getting to those voters.

[@col0342]

"and the stock market is higher than it ever was under Trump" don't _take wild bets_ on the stock markets.

[@timcoffeysongwriting]

@@col0342 I don't make wild bets on the stock market - I'm simply making the point that Trump likes to claim he's best on the economy and takes credit for the stock market, but his claims hold no water.

[@Lorenz1973]

To those spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories about Haitian migrants in this comment section. The women in the police body cam is African American, born in the USA, so a citizen. A person with mental health issues who did kill her neighbour’s cat during an episode. The distressed neighbour and pet owner of course called the police. The image of a man carrying a duck/ goose or something similar was also an African American citizen, born and bred in the USA. Both people have been identified, neither of them are Haitian. Drug and mental health issues are sadly common, not everyone gets the treatment they need. Please 🙏 stop spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories - it is not fair on anyone involved.

[@Ericviking2019]

Those are Russian bots, report them

[@jacksonmcdonald5443]

If we are going to accuse people who carry dead animals as being pet eaters, we should get resident expert RFK Jr. on the horn and ask him about how bear and whale taste like. I hear RFK Jr. has endorsed Trump for president. I think it is only fair game to ask Trump why one of his big endorsers is a pet eater.

[@twincast2005]

​@@jacksonmcdonald5443 And stuffed endangered turtles and rat-infested cow corpses, oh so many rat-infested cow corpses...

[@jamesmccaul2945]

Well that’s the misinformation problem solved. Thank god.

[@julesroy]

People in the area of been reporting missing pets and crimes involving the thousands of Haitians for months now but as usual the MSM refused to report on it. These things along with animal ritual sacrifices are common everywhere they move to in the US and Canada going back decades. You seem to live in a bubble.

[@hygri]

Vlad, I always feel far calmer about the ludicrous state of our world after listening you speak about it. Thank you x

[@VladVexlerChat]

Grateful to you

[@luluna53]

Same here.

[@barbarad1986]

Best Kamala comment “Putin is going to eat you for lunch” Best Kamala action was despite him being a foot taller she marched over shook his hand and said “I’m Kamala Harris, let’s have a good debate!” He wasn’t expecting that. He also showed weakness by never returning her gaze, I think he thought not looking at her was a power play but it backfired!

[@liamanderson4992]

The only word she missed from her comment was "again".

[@jorr1334]

Dude he's already doing that with biden

[@qrsx66]

Erdogan did make a mockery of Trump when he abandoned a valuable US ally in the Middle-East (the Kurds). In the worse possible way. Kim Jong-Eun had the final word in their confrontation, he conceded nothing to the US, but his meeting with the POTUS in Singapore was turned into a glorifying show for the North Korean audience.

[@falconeshield]

Even Xi made fun of Trump. He doesn't realise the dictators he admires laugh behind his back. ​@@qrsx66

[@azishappy2035]

Yes, I loved the " eat you for lunch" comment. What a powerful punch!

[@ollywright]

Second comment: I give Harris the win on Ukraine due to how she ended it. Mentioning Poland and the 800k polish in Pensylvania was super-charged targeting in the state that matters the most. That one comment might just win her the election. One of the smartest moments of the whole debate imho, and a sign of how well prepared she was.

[@ALCV11]

Totally agreed. Being prepared with the approximate population of the Polish diaspora in PA was a baller move. Impressive, compassionate, and presidential.

[@PolishKnightUSA]

I appreciate Vlad's point about how Trump "selling Ukraine out" isn't a good point for an isolationist that would tend to vote for him, his follow up rationalization was a sign of weakness showing he feared nuclear war. Instead of Trump coming across as strong, it DID come across as "incompetent" and, I daresay (LISTEN UP): UNMANLY. Harris appeared more REAGANESQUE than Trump did that evening and THAT is an image problem for Trump. Trump's hysteria about Haitian cat-eating didn't help make him look more confident. A man whose weak AND a bully is NOT the image Trump wanted to sell. The question is whether "selling Ukraine out" will bring undecided voters over to him versus losing voters to Harris. The fact is that most of Trump's voters are ethnically European and many have sympathies to a peaceful Europe. My wife and I voted for him twice but not this time AND we live in a swing state. The question is: What benefit, in winning the election, is an appearing pro-Putin or weak to Putin going to do for him?

[@z3ro5um]

Yeah, she scored straight points on the notion of ‘selling out’ to perceived power.

[@pimvda]

Best analysis for me so far on the debate. Thanks Vlad!

[@syjiang]

I found the debate to have been substantively vacuous but...and a big BUT, the debate performances of the candidate themselves were illuminating. She baited him into rants and he had no self-control to resist. It should gave any voters considerable pause about putting an individual into office when they could be manipulated like so in a public setting.

[@topsecret1837]

I think this is the biggest takeaway. Not only was she spot on at the degree and ease trump could be manipulated, but she proved it in direct, public confrontation.

[@karenrobertsdottir4101]

It was *so obvious* . Everyone could see what she was doing - it's not like it was some subtle thing. It was like there was a giant flashing neon sign hanging over the stage that read, "This Is Bait". I did enjoy Vlad's comment that she could have done so much more damage if she had called out what she had done, and pointed that if she could manipulate him so easily while so blatantly telegraphing what she was doing, do you really want that person in charge of foreign policy?

[@groaningmole4338]

Yes. Especially since his handlers undoubtedly recognized that this was his biggest weakness, and probably implored him not to let himself get baited.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

Debates like this are rhetorical boxing matches. I don’t expect to gain an in-depth understanding of issues and policy, but I want to see that the candidates have some kind of coherent grasp on issues. I want to see them deftly wield issues in the debate combat. That is to say, in the context of the debate, issues and policy are weapons.

[@liamanderson4992]

Exactly. If she can play him like a violin, what can Putin, Xi, Kim and the Ayatollahs do? (We've already had a taste.....)

[@Gingerbreadley]

Harris might have only been like a 6-7 but Trump fell for everything and put on a 1-2 showing. Whoever came up with the Putin Poland Pennsylvania tie in should get a medal pure genius.

[@tsdulyn9]

I dont think that attack was as important as genius as some people make it out to seem. I think the crowd size comment was better. After that trump went completely off the rails.

[@Gingerbreadley]

@@tsdulyn9 crowd size was better for the debate but the polish comment will be more important going forward I believe. She can repeat it with all kinds of other groups like Ukrainians Romanians fins etc. it also plays into immigration and ties the US with nato in a way he can’t break.

[@dsmith33]

Yes there’s a not-insignificant east European immigrant community particularly in Pennsylvania which on the margins could help decide the outcome

[@Scarletpimpanel73]

@@tsdulyn9 It hit him right where it hurts. And he spun off the grid after it.

[@he1ar1]

The landscape is still in Trump's favour. Trump is too ego driven to keep to his campaign managers' plan. Harris did a much better job than Biden at provoking Trump to self destruct.

[@benf1111]

Hope you're doing well. Always brightens my day to see these....especially after a debate like that 😊

[@VladVexlerChat]

Thank you!

[@dinismantas7265]

This debate, in my oppinion, was about one thing: Kamala Harris passes or fails as a Presidential candidate. She could have failed, but she didn't. She performed way above expectations. A lot of independent undecided voters were waiting for this debate. I think she did what was necessary and, as a huge bonus, she exposed Trump as an old, often deranged, actually fragilized incompetent inferior man.

[@Yasen99]

Really? She exposed Trump? Did Trump say something during the debate that he hasn’t really said before? The point is not whether Trump says something you consider deranged or false - the point is whether there’s sufficient number of voters, actual and potential, who would BELIEVE him. Give you one example. Trump consistently claims Democrats are running an entire operation which brings illegal migrants to the US and then uses them as illegal voters - election fraud. Do you know how many people in the US actually believe this is happening? Massive numbers!

[@procopiusaugustus6231]

A lot of “undecided” just want to vote for the winner. After this Harris looks like a winner.

[@IusedtohaveausernameIliked]

@@procopiusaugustus6231 I'm not saying you're wrong, but those people don't know how democracy works. Anyway I think the OP's opinion is valid, another chunk of people were waiting to see if Harris was presidential material and she succeeded in coming off way more presidential than Trump.

[@RuneDrageon]

"Not every historical problem has a solution." A very important lesson, but at the same time one that can be so frustrating to accept.

[@Alister222222]

I don't accept it. The reason I don't accept it is because even if it is true, you must always act as if it is false. And I would even suggest that every problem may in fact have a solution - it's just that we haven't found it yet. I also don't accept it because even when we fail to make things better, the alternative is to never have tried, and if I had to die having never tried to make things better, or die having at least tried, I know which one I'd choose. I'd argue that 'not every historical problem has a solution' is an extremely centrist viewpoint - the counterpoint is the leftist viewpoint, which is that things can always be improved.

[@QuestforQuestions]

@@Alister222222 ❤

[@RuneDrageon]

@@Alister222222 Good point, gotta think about that one.

[@ninjacats1647]

Some problems are like a salient between two bad outcomes. Your surrounded with options, you have choices, all of them bad. I think that world wide overpopulation coupled with the threat of global warming has presented dilemmas for many nation states that have no good solutions. Everywhere I keep hearing of shortages of critical things like housing, perhaps driven by overpopulation. Also of note is that the long term supply of resources is anything but assured and the role that the economy plays into having a functioning stable nation state without instability is vastly underestimated. Simply put, economic decline is a significant part of what is driving democratic decline. And the west right now at least appears to be in significant economic decline. It was talked about extensively during 2008, but I keep seeing loads of videos talking about dismal financial prospects, massive shortages of the most important things. The economy almost seems worse than 2008 if you listen to some people. An entire generation, Gen Z, is having enormous problems affording basic stuff like housing that is historically unprecedented. The cost of housing and health care has gotten incredibly bad. One thing that might benefit is a 1940's mindset. We need to get back in the global resource and industrial game again. We just found lithium in Pennsylvania and Lithium is an enormously valuable resource geopolitically due to it being used in most electronics. It was benefit us economically, geopolitically, and strengthen our position on the world stage. I think the main way to reverse democratic decline is to combat economic decline by reindustrialization and increased resource extraction. FDR and the industrial base of the 1940's showed us a geopolitical blueprint for how the industrial might of the nation helped elevate democratic strength in the US and ultimately around the world through the Marshall Plan. So whenever we discover new critical resources on US soil we should take advantage of that to strengthen the economy. That is my fundamental view of things. Letting our industrial might languish after it showed itself to be so vital to us winning in World War II was our greatest mistake and I believe it makes the US vulnerable geopolitically as well as contributes to economic decline and democratic decline.

[@qrsx66]

I always say more broadly that not all problems have solutions. It doesn't mean that I do nothing and I even think I'm more active than most of my surroundings (in response to Alister222222)

[@TonyC-le3ks]

I liked Kamala's answer on Ukraine...because she appealed to the moderates and traditional GOPers in the idea that US is a City on a Hill. The Ukraine/Russia issue is really about where people think US should be globally.

[@riffsontwowheels]

@@TonyC-le3ks rubbish - you don’t play with nuclear powers just for the hell of it - that’s gangsta BS.

[@nco_gets_it]

If you liked her answer, you probably also like the invasion of Iraq, drone bombings of weddings, and Tony Blair. There is only ONE candidate on earth who is not a pro-war, MIC supporter. I'm sure that has nothing to do with your love of Kamala's delulu concept that Ukraine has anything at all to do with European or US security. Ukraine is a fascist state and Russia is a neoaristocratic oligarchy. Period. To paraphrase Guderian before Kursk, "who runs Ukraine is a matter of profound indifference to the world". The endless wars and endless destruction of civil liberties must end. If the US goes the way of the UK, France, Germany, and Russia, the world is doomed. One cannot be for candidates who propose endless war and cultural destruction and not also be for the police state. The war state and the police states are two sides of the same coin.

[@TonyC-le3ks]

@riffsontwowheels Then you just let Russia and China whatever they want out of fear of nuclear war.

[@IAmTheOnlyLucas]

@@nco_gets_it Russia will run out of money to pay bots like you for this kind of comment before 2025.

[@dddrdr]

As a Ukrainian, I am afraid of the idea that the next Democrats in power will come to the United States. The Democrats have been enemies of Ukraine for the last 10 years, and it surprises me how people continue to support them on issues of Ukraine.

[@garad123456]

It's an immigrant-eat-dog world, what can I say.

[@RuneDrageon]

*Badumm Tss *

[@JT-do8dr]

Underrated comment

[@jacksonmcdonald5443]

Paws off my Floof Amendment Rights

[@chepulis]

Outstanding.

[@ddewittfulton]

THAT is very, very funny!

[@TheDog_Chef]

The one point that came out of the debate for me is how easily manipulated Trump is.

[@MrKakibuy]

Few people in the world will watch the debate in its entierty, on other hand, vast amounts will see and remember the whole cats and dogs mambo jumbo.

[@Julia-Richter]

Bittersweet.

[@puraLusa]

With the I heard it on TV 😂 Priceless!

[@demonicsquid7217]

​@@Julia-Richteronly when eaten with grapefruit and ice cream.

[@hbowman108]

The biggest failure was the part with the dogs and cats. The guy simply cannot ever back down on being a racist.

[@kdiigx]

Are you saying it’s not happening? the police have literally released body cam of it?

[@Lorenz1973]

@@kdiigx The body cam is from an African American woman with mental health issues who killed her neighbour’s cat and was not even in the town but a completely different place.So it is the locals, the American citizens murdering pets…. Stop creating and spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories!

[@vengefulspirit99]

​@@Lorenz1973Kinda crazy that you even had to address that comment. America is fucked.

[@IsomerSoma]

​@@kdiigx I am VERY skeptical of this but let's say this has happened ... one time. What relevancy has this to the race? 😂

[@kdiigx]

@@Lorenz1973 and the police report that is from a different incident? The video of the guy carrying a Canadian goose (federally protected) by the neck?

[@TonyC-le3ks]

Oh...one more thing about the Ukraine issue. Kamala was great to link it up with Russia being a threat to Poland and then appealing Polish Americans, who are very prominent in several swing states, including Pennsylvania. I am also curious to see if the Haitian fearmongering will backfire on Trump as Haitian Americans are in Florida.

[@personzorz]

I don't think so. I think it will help him engender race riots in the wake of the election.

[@cineaudiophile4465]

@@personzorz There are not going to be any race riots. He and his minions have been threatening that for 8 years. They are too scared to actually confront anyone, just like Trump couldn't even look her in the eye the entire debate. They're all cowards.

[@falconeshield]

Ukraine, not the Ukraine. Their name will be Great Ukraine after the war so let's not use old pre 1993 terms for the country that held Russia.

[@TonyC-le3ks]

@@falconeshield the "the" refers the "issue"...not Ukraine but good to know for future.

[@DaleWoodward-v7z]

This was a job interview for the top CEO job in the 🇺🇲. Looked at that way, Harris is clearly the best choice for the job in 2024.

[@SusCalvin]

If you run the country like a corporation, a lot more things we think of as corruption would be allowed. Each senator would also be guaranteed a bonus increase no matter what happens.

[@DaleWoodward-v7z]

@@SusCalvinLet's take a look at the separation of powers and branches of the U.S. government. The analogy to a CEO was a poor glib one on my part. The Executive branch of the U.S. government is somewhat akin to the CEO position in corporations. If compared to corporations, the Legislative branch is closer to the Board of Directors of a corporation. But the Legislative branch of the U.S. Congress makes laws after debating them, and has the power to spend money. The Judicial branch of our government handles the legal system, would be like a legal department of a large corporation. The difference in our Federal government system and corporations is our chief executive, the head of the Executive Branch, analagous slightly to corporate CEOs, is chosen by the citizenry of the nation at large. In corporations CEOs are typically chosen by a vote of the board of directors, after head hunters or human resources finds potential candidates, not by the votes of the common shareholders of company stock at large (www.quora.com/Who-hires-CEOs) So, when watching a U.S. presidential debate, keep in mind the candidates are intellectually sparring to be selected by the American public for the job as head of the Executive Branch of the United States of America by the U.S. citizenry at large based on: 1. Popular vote in each city and state of the U.S. in the aggregate 2. The number of Electoral College votes won as a result of the overall popular vote of each state in particular. There is no analogy to this process in U.S. corporations. Two CEOs competing for the same position at a corporation here would not have debates against each other, in front of the Board of Directors (loose analogy to the U.S. Congress, House and Senate branches), nor the stockholders of that company, with the outcome decided by both popular votes of the company shareholders, as well as a mechanism similar to the Electoral College system of the Federal government. That's just not the way corporations do it here, because they really are not institutions of democracy or representative government; they're organizations usually of capitalism, although depending on their charter when they are set up, determines their mission, lifespan, whether they are for profit, or non (see the Corporation for Public Broadcasting), etc. So, mistake to think comparisons to running U.S. government like a corporation invite corruption, as well as the fact that Congress members, House and Senate side, already don't have the power to vote themselves pay increases (they do, and have voted themselves pay increases many times, yet up till 1855 Congress members received at most, a per diem rate of $6/day while Congress was in session www.snopes.com/fact-check/congress-per-diem-pay/ That has risen over time to ~174K annual today en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Salaries_of_members_of_the_United_States_Congress) But I digress. The purpose of the U.S. Constitution and Federal system the U.S. follows was not intended to prevent, nor to facilitate corruption. It was designed as a republic built to contain and constrain the democratic election processes within it. To that extent the system is somewhat vulnerable to outside manipulation, as we saw in the 2016 meddling by 🇷🇺 to tip that election in Trump's favor. However the fact remains the election of a U.S. president by the vote of the citizens of the United States shows the world that one of the most powerful positions of human beings on the planet, can be made, by mere mortal citizens of the U.S. It doesn't require a church, or a monarchy, the position isn't one of an emperor presiding over an empire. The position of the Presidency, head of the Executive Branch of the United States of America, is simply an elected official. In that sense, it's as close as any American working for a large corporation can get, to electing the next CEO of their company, after witnessing a competition of debates and CEOs campaigning to the workers of that company, for their vote as CEO, to be elected to be their boss at that company. So, that's the way I look at U.S. presidential elections, as an American citizen. I understand a lot of people overseas look at our system and don't quite understand all the pomp and circumstance, think it's all for show. And in a lot of ways it is, but at the same time it is for head of an office that has the power to destroy a large part of the human race in a short amount of time in a worst case situation. So maybe realize the seriousness of the position, and the fact the best candidate for the job is the one who could also easily run a law abiding corporation and make it work, make a profit, and create jobs? All those goals aren't so easy for the average person to achieve, so look at the candidates and the debates as opportunities to see how they think and function on their feet, under stress, and judge them and what they promise in their campaign, less in the light of inviting or preventing corruption, and more about choosing the best candidate to make the best decisions Executives would ever have to make, and it takes on a different meaning. Sorry to get wordy like this, but I paid attention in U.S. History and Civics classes in high school. Vote your conscience and for who you think and feel is the best candidate for the job this election based on what their campaigns promise and how you think they did in the debates 🇺🇲 👍🏻

[@GarrFagen]

And this is why the low information MAGA voter was always fed the simple narrative that Trump's an excellent businessman, a tough negotiator, good at making deals, calls it like it is - yada yada yada. For some, despite analysis of his record, they'll still believe that he's a better choice than a liberal woman, or another lawyer. If you say a lie enough times people start to believe it. But yes, she's clearly making her case that she's highly capable.

[@kentalanlee]

@@GarrFagen Capability isn't global. She may well be capable of restraining her initial knee-jerk reactions, and thus be more inclined to take instruction from a team, thus winning in a controlled debate forum. But at the same time, and for the same reasons, she might be less capable of unpredictable and disruptive reactions to rationally-designed threats, which helps put our enemies off balance. These different capabilities are at various times more or less valuable in a leader. You may indeed be correct, that on balance we need the former more than the latter. But the jury is still out on what the electorate values.

[@GarrFagen]

​@@kentalanlee Your prejudice is astounding with your statement that, essentially, only with her impulse control and "instruction from a team" was Harris able to win the debate against Trump. Political heavyweight Hillary couldn't do it. Not one to be pushed around, rhetorically, Ted Cruz couldn't do it. Harris has been wildly underestimated, precisely because she's not a political animal, and not one prone to seeking the spotlight. Pundits' concensus reinforced over a decade a narrative that she didn't have the right stuff. She's relatively inexperienced in front of mics and cameras compared to many others, but not for long. I agree with Vlad that 99% of people could not do what she just did. Coaching is one thing, but execution is another. And bias can cloud a person's judgment.

[@VapourforBlood]

Well Trump is already backpedaling on any future debates. This proves that he knows he can’t really go up against her kind of calibre.

[@VapourforBlood]

@@RyolithRandilare you not paying attention? He’s going against Kamala. Trump needs to get over Biden.

[@YBM2007]

I think going up against Harris stresses him out, he was probably sleeping well before the Biden debates

[@richtea615]

Thanks for the laugh. 😂

[@SamAronow]

Fox News is going with "she wants a second debate because she knows she lost."

[@VapourforBlood]

@@SamAronow It’s typical twisted logic from Fox News. They twist it to suit thier narrative, if Kamala refused a second debate they’d claim it’s because she’s afraid and Trump would insist another one. But Trump can’t debate someone who is able and willing to challenge his lies. Trump is so used to living in his own echo chamber he’s not mentally or emotionally capable of dealing with anyone challenging him

[@jaycobobob]

"You baldy, you look like Pregozhin" 🤣 10/10 roast, you would fit perfectly in American Politics

[@liamanderson4992]

I have a visual imagination. I could literally see you doing that! Made me chuckle!

[@mjford6152]

Harris hit it out of the park Vlad. She was dealing with Trump not a gentlman debater who has courtesy and empathy as you do. We know what Trump does to gentle people.

[@t.michaelbodine4341]

That was a remarkable moment last night. Trump is SO profoundly unqualified.

[@Yasen99]

The problem is not that he is unqualified. The problem is that you don’t like his politics, most importantly, his promise to profoundly re-shape America’s role in the world. The central fear you (plural) have is that he will abandon the project of democracy promotion and will recalibrate American foreign policy to pragmatic Realpolitik.

[@ginniemess]

​@@Yasen99 He's a liar, a scammer, a cheater, an abuser. He's a criminal. To this day he doesn't admit he lost the previous election - he IS unqualified!

[@tablet296]

​​@Yasen99 If you remove the word "promotion" from your rambling, It would be accurate.

[@Yasen99]

@@tablet296 Do I sense hostility?

[@kentalanlee]

I was actually surprised that Trump tried to claim that America wants reproductive rights limited. I mean, I know who that dog whistle is for. But doubling down on that one was perhaps the most obvious kryptonite for anyone trying to play the populist.

[@josephglatz25]

He really doesn't have a choice, though. He can't lose the evangelical vote, and they're pissed at him right now. The overall national average of people don't think the repeal of Roe V. Wade was a good things, and that reproductive rights are very important, so he can't say "Destroy abortion now and forever" to keep the evangelical voters happy without destroying any hope of winning a general election. He's caught between a rock and a hard place on that issue, and isn't that wonderful?

[@riffsontwowheels]

@@kentalanlee reproductive rights used to mean men who don’t rape women. Men to love women and know what time of the month it is. Men who use condoms.

[@GarrFagen]

He needs those evangelicals to not jump ship.

[@LaSmoocherina]

Trump is in cognitive decline.

[@sqweege6432]

“False solutions” is exactly the line I’ve been looking for. Totally gonna use those two words from now.

[@titimact9044]

I think Kamala was awesome! Please vote!!

[@jonnybyrne989]

Of course you do, I'm sure before this debate if you are an American you were undecided 🙄

[@zetristan4525]

for Jill Stein🌱 Please don't fall for the talk of the Democrat/Republican duopoly: look deep into who really pull the strings.

[@carriebryan1211]

Trump would give Alaska to Putin.

[@0nFoot]

No he wouldn't. But he wouldn't bat an eye-lid to let him have Ukraine, Moldova and the Baltic states

[@простадівчина]

@@0nFoot For the right amount of cash, or a title like "Grand Hero and Leader of the Americas conferred by the ever-admiring Russian public". Maybe shorter?

[@falconeshield]

Yes he would. America has the receipt of purchase, but him getting rid of the few places left where Natives live would make him feel like Adolf. So he'd do it.

[@0nFoot]

@@простадівчина Perhaps you're right. I wouldn't put it passed him. But he's going to lose, again, so it doesn't really matter

[@piop]

The fact that such patently absurd theses are accepted as part of the debate shows how deeply immersed the left wing is in tribalism and post-truth narrative mode.

[@richardoldfield6714]

Just after the debate ended, things got even worse for Trump: Taylor Swift - who has *284 million* Instagram subscribers - signed off her first public endorsement of Kamala with “Taylor SwiftChildless Cat Lady" … Shady JD will not be happy.

[@SamAronow]

Taylor Swift's fertility has been an obsession of white nationalist influencers for _years._ They see her as the perfect embodiment of Ary*n fertility and for a long time just assumed that she was one of them, so the last five years or so have been extremely frustrating for them.

[@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531]

We may safely count on JD to open his big, none-too-bright air scoop and offend even more swing voters.

[@ALCV11]

He already put his foot in it again, claiming along the lines of "I seriously doubt most people care what a billionaire who is out of touch with most Americans thinks."

[@jonnybyrne989]

Most of Taylor swift's fan base are either too young or would have voted for kamela anyway, so that doesn't really make a difference

[@mduckernz]

@@jonnybyrne989Some of them - perhaps even most - are those who would not have voted. So it’s a win if it gets them to. But I emphasise with your point anyway

[@marcussassan]

I was sorry to find out youtube paused your monetizing. I believe your message is important and youtube is stupid. I joined your Patreon and hope others wont wait as long as I did to do so. Stay well.

[@Toasty27]

seems al lot of People reporting about Russia and Ukraine have been demonetized. Looks like KZbin is trying to act against propaganda and are overdoing it in the process

[@christinamuzzu6414]

They did the same with Konstantin Inside Russia. What is happening with KZbin?!?

[@VladVexlerChat]

So kind of you - thank you very much!

[@VladVexlerChat]

@@christinamuzzu6414no no that’s a different issue

[@hannekezijlmans6578]

The video we were all looking forward to!

[@AndyInSE8]

I thought Kamala Harris was absolutely outstanding. The debate was never going to be about substantive policy discussion. There are a relatively small number of undecided voters that she needed to reassure, and It was clear that she put a great deal of time and effort into preparing for that. I anticipated that she would outperform Trump, but she exceeded my expectations by a huge distance.

[@slavajuri]

Absolutely. Anyone looking for substantive policy discussion is confusing themselves about what presidential debates have been for decades. Just not how those function, especially today.

[@ollywright]

I also cry when i'm happy, not when i'm sad, and for the same reasons. I have no complaints about it. And I had a similar response to her debate. It was interesting to see Gavin Newsome on MSNBC afterwards get moist-eyed talking about how this was the Kamela he'd known for 30 years, and how proud of her growth he is. Thank you for the insights.

[@pansepot1490]

I saw that interview.

[@VladVexlerChat]

Thank you for sharing that!

[@meatrealwishes]

Newsome is always moist-eyed when he talks. I see no change in her. Verbally, she is still the same no nonsense prosecutor feared in California.

[@IAmNumber4000]

I think voters who see Kamala's facial expressions as more of a deal breaker than Trump's felony convictions were not winnable voters to begin with.

[@ididthisonpulpous6526]

Thank you as always for choosing to make something thoughtful despite your health. I am consistently thankful for your calming and insightful perspective!

[@southend26]

I think you're underestimating how badly Trump did. I think he lost last night. 🤞

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

I think Swift has more influence than a debate.

[@piernikowyloodek]

I wish it mattered. I wish anything mattered anymore. I don't know if it does.

[@CuriousCrow-mp4cx]

"Against folly we have no defence. Neither protests nor force can touch it; reasoning is no use; facts that contradict personal prejudices can simply be disbelieved - indeed, the fool can counter by criticizing them, and if they are undeniable, they can just be pushed aside as trivial exceptions. So the fool, as distinct from the scoundrel, is completely self-satisfied; in fact, he can easily become dangerous, as it does not take much to make him aggressive. A fool must therefore be treated more cautiously than a scoundrel; we shall never again try to convince a fool by reason, for it is both useless and dangerous. " Vlad said Trump lost the debate, but as far as his base is concerned he can do no wrong. Why? Because he validates their dark emotions. They are hooked on that, the heroin of being given permission to feel their dark emotions and nihilism. They're not thinking as far as Trump is concerned. They're emoting. Acting out, and are beyond reason. Or debates. Only the undecided who are motivated to pay attention to debates might be influenced by last night's event. And might feel they'll have to pinch their nose and hold their breath as they vote for whoever. And that's brave.

[@VladVexlerChat]

He couldn’t have done much worse short of saying something shocking at Kamala. But I still place him ahead in the race.

[@DonaldRilea]

@@VladVexlerChat Interesting take on the Clinton/Trump debates, though I saw both at the time and thought she won them. Where Harris's response differed greatly is that she treated him as a tough opponent, but also knew when to laugh at and ridicule him at times, and dare I say I think it worked. Am biased toward Harris, but also see where there were times, especially initially, where Trump was disciplined about his messaging and Harris was initially not strong. But, as the debate went on, he ended up repeating the same old tropes and themes that he's used for nine years now, plus his attempts at using a new addition to them, the Haitian migrant pet eating lie, and, while undecided independent voters may not agree with what am going to say, they are worn out, as is the rest of his act. It's become overly familiar with many Americans, and I think quite tiresome to many of them, too.

[@larrysteinke1839]

even trying to account for my own bias and media bubble I cannot fathom how this can be such a close race. If you hear something like senator Tom Scott's comments after the debate and some Fox pundits view that Trump won the debate hands down, it's truly fascinating, pretzel logic.

[@VictorHarderHesel]

What do you think of Harris not pouncing on the "I have concepts of a plan" response? I burst out laughing when he said it and was sure she was going to capitalise on it. It felt like a missed opportunity to me but maybe I'm missing something? Also, I absolutely love your channels. Keep up the good work :)

[@slangster233]

When the former guy was pacing around behind Hillary at their debate, if she had only turned around and casually said "You should have gone before we all got started, Donald", i believe the last eight years would have been entirely different.

[@marytheresamaureenlowndes3564]

Thank you Vlad. Hope you are feeling better. Regards from Ireland

[@danzo240]

Hope you’re feeling better soon Vlad. Thanks for another great take ❤️

[@VladVexlerChat]

Doing my best, thank you!

[@danzo240]

Nailing it Vlad. Things I’ve always known at an instinctual level, but have never been ever to articulate; you do so with a graceful simplicity. It’s a gift ❤️

[@suzannewman979]

Kamala is a successful prosecutor. A perfect profession for a woman who is compassionate but not easily demonstrative. Trump was so unprepared for this woman who nailed him to his idiocracy.

[@PjRjHj]

She is not compassionate. She still has zero authenticity. Trump on the other hand can't regulate his emotions

[@michall6376]

I’ve just watched the whole debate and it was overall very embarrassing. I get how Trump voters would pluck a couple of pints here and there to announce Trump as a winner, but for a ‚normal’ person you almost have to feel sorry for Trump. It was really like watching an episode of ‚the extras’ with Trump as an episode lead. Just a cringe fest all around.

[@Meatpipeify]

It was a good night for democracy, but we have a lot of work ahead of us. Back to writing my post cards to PA....

[@itsallminor6133]

She's already lost

[@taxicabnumber1729]

Good job Meatpipeify. Watching from the Netherlands here and it's nerve wrecking, but activists like you can make a difference.

[@danstan8346]

Great wok Vlad. Thank you

[@blackheartrebels]

Hi Vlad! Sad to see how you are struggling with your health...glad you keep making thoughtful posts anyway. BUT!!.(No one says "BUT" with such emphasis as you do :-).. please take care and I hope you feel better soon!!

[@davidtindell950]

PLEASE Do NOT Underestimate the Incomprehensible "Ignorance" of the American People and the GREED of American Oligarchs !

[@jorr1334]

Like the bidens, obama, and clintons.

[@messrsandersonco5985]

No, the ones in bed with the Russian oligarchs and you MUST know who they are! There's a reason he's called Vladimir Trump behind his back.

[@Songshare]

@@jorr1334They are not oligarchs. You clearly do not know how much money the super rich have.

[@janronschke7525]

To make Vlad cry: I am significantly better in dealing with my own mental health and political opposition as well as with generally what is going on in the world. And that is mostly due to me engaging with his channel and this beautifull communidy(^^) that has assembeled around it!

[@pansepot1490]

👍💙👋

[@VladVexlerChat]

Thank you so much for sharing that!

[@janronschke7525]

@@VladVexlerChat Thank you for providing all of this despite your health!

[@toddpeterson5904]

Thank you for taking the time to make this video. During the debate I took notes on what I perceived as important as a voter (admittedly I'm not undecided, but tried to empathize with undecided voters - very hard to do). I found that you brought up many of the same points, so I think your analysis is on point. I would add to the point you make about most people not knowing about the cat eaters as an indication of the alternative reality that trump (and his base) live in. This was really driven home for me when trump said that Harris' claims were debunked by Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity, and Jesse Waters. Setting aside that these are not legitimate journalists or experts on the claims, these figures are only important to trump and his base. Their "debunking" holds no sway for the average voter.

[@Lou.B]

Excellent observations, save for one near the end. Had Kamala Harris stood on Trump's defeated corpse and declare victory at the end of the evening as you suggest, she WOULD have triggered those men you warned us about in the beginning (@22:39). Sadly, many of the men in America ARE triggered by such acts, which though instructive, could also be seen as gloating (by a woman, no less!), and would likely have sparked wider, Luntz-like backlash in the press, and the voters. I LOVE your work by the way, and please get well soon! We NEED your insights!

[@TepacheLoco]

Recovering from covid at the mo and this is just the right level of calm mental engagement to keep me going

[@VladVexlerChat]

Take it gently

[@JohnQuiroz-ry2tw]

I don't think Trump wants to win his traumatized from that bullet

[@carolpieper496]

Praying for your healing. I appreciate your insights. ... especially in light of how difficult it is for you. Take care of yourself.

[@MichaelPlatson]

Can't imagine Trump wants to bring up Biden's decline, not when Trump himself is about the same age and has shown his own signs of a cognitive dip. Trump is older now than Biden was in 2020 and can barely string a sentence together.

[@liamanderson4992]

Trump did mention early in the proceedings how Biden had been removed, with the implication that this was some sort of backroom inspired coup. If he is going to follow this line of attack, then he can't then use Biden's cognitive decline as a focal point. By going for the "palace coup" line of reasoning, he excludes the chance of using the cognitive decline line of reasoning.

[@petervanderwoude6316]

There are only two things trump thinks about: 1. Not going to jail 2. Not going bankrupt Everything else is irrelevant to him and is only used to prevent the points 1 and 2.

[@Toonrick12]

Not going personally bankrupt. He can bankrupt as many companies as countries as he wants, but he sure as hell tries to avoid personal Chapter 9 bankruptcy.

[@JP-sm1zv]

I stopped eating a cat and dog to watch this video

[@Chereese0808]

Left mine on the grill.

[@rich_watched_something]

I've been looking forward to your take on the debate.

[@cineaudiophile4465]

I am constantly frustrated in Ukraine video threads by the poor understanding of the American voting electorate and the candidates, especially Democrats. So let me make some things clear: Kamala Harris is arguably the most qualified candidate for the presidency in modern history. This is not a subjective statement, it is a fact based on her C.V.. Two, her performance was also the best presidential debate performance in my (half-century) lifetime. Feel free to watch all the previous. She has mastery of the camera, the rhetoric, and the facts, was never flustered, and expertly laid trap after trap. She is a former prosecutor and it shows. Lastly, I know it's hard for many to understand who just read headlines but the single most important issue in this election is women's autonomy over their own bodies - a fact borne out by state/local election the last 4 years. So if you've followed the local/state election you'd know... Trump has already lost. And he knows it. Putin knows it. Slava Ukraini.

[@GarrFagen]

I agree with much of what you say, however Harris did distort the truth of the Charlottesville statements where Trump has been quoted from. While he's obviously fascist adjacent, the widely quoted Trump sentence which Kamala referenced was taken out of context in that, EARLIER in his long press conference days after the riot, he'd explicitly condemned the far right neo-nazis present. Later, I think he was then alluding to the moderates on the left and right who were demonstrating peacefully (perhaps his own special way of padding out and massaging the truth, never to acknowledge that those aggressive counter protestors present (antifa) are today's resistance, descendants of those countering fascism for 80 years now). He's partly right that it's been "debunked" as he said in the debate. I read the breakdown of this ongoing story (politico?). Believe me, few want him and MAGA tossed more than me.

[@alenawest6158]

HI 🌻 Vlad hope you are feeling better ! 🌻🌻

[@garrett9945]

Thank you, Vlad! I'm sorry your ME has taken a toll these past few weeks.

[@VladVexlerChat]

Thank you!

[@JB-mb1qf]

Thank you, dear Vlad…you are my guiding star in the dark days of life, love, Julia

[@fredblogs5801]

Your description on how to handle bullies and previous opponents failings has opened a new train of thought for me and more. Many thanks for that brilliant explanation.

[@blindfreddy9157]

In a normal country losing a debate so badly would have consequences.

[@VladVexlerChat]

But increasingly no country is quite normal and ‘normal’ may mean the exceptional historical phase of 1989-2001

[@glenrotchin5523]

Harris’s facial reactions were spot on. They echoed perfectly the audiences incredulousness. But they also subtly and effectively walked the line of taking him seriously while conveying the message that he was not a serious person.

[@juli2OH]

I’m trying to do my part and have been volunteering for the Ohio Democratic party. I stand for women and Ukraine! Vote Blue 💙

[@taxicabnumber1729]

Good job, rooting for you.

[@leolinguini260]

Honestly I feel like Kamala will mop the floor with Trump's wig when the election comes.

[@pantalaemon]

that's a dangerous level of optimism. people thought the same about hillary in 2016. it's gonna be a bitter, tight race all the way to the end.

[@Meatpipeify]

I tend to agree, but we all need to do the work to make it happen! Volunteer!

[@cerberus276]

The mood of the people in the US, can not be gauged by what you hear on the news or read on social media. You really have to live here before you can understand it, let alone sence it. Trump will not win, and that's not wishful thinking.

[@bobouzala]

I totally agreed with VP Harris when she stated, “Vlad Vexler is like a fine wine, the world loves him and thinks he’s soo cool”. 😎 ❤ 😙

[@goranritterfeldt2608]

Thanks a lot. All other media I have seen repeating the same moments from the debate. Right so. But you did something more important. To dive under or above the obvious. A deeper analysis of what happened and what will follow. Take care and hope you come over the illness you suffer from. Göran in Latvia

[@L.A.6482]

I thought she was brilliant especially since women are always held to a much higher standard than men. She gets double points for this. Expectations for Trump are so low as to be so microscopic that he doesn’t have to achieve much of anything to get points at all. She defended a woman’s right to reproductive healthcare where no man has been close to doing. Since women are half the population it’s about time we were defended.

[@theikki]

It seems that Trump doesn't want another debate anymore. Not surprising 😅

[@michaelwulff4242]

Unfortunately I-as a man-am very familiar with being bullied, and you’re right that dealing with bullies is difficult-easy to over-react or under-react-and you’re right that Kamala got the balance.

[@richardburgess8657]

Delighted you’re well enough to comment on our continuing political circus. Thank you, Vlad.

[@johnquiroz8279]

It's still tied we won't know until November

[@kimvergil4866]

As always you help put it into a clearer perspective. Thank you always.

[@lukasbrucas3027]

Hi Vlad, best wishes to you! I also found it very heartwarming to see Harris grow into her role and become more confident and assertive. She was very sharp and every move and mannierism was well thought out and controlled. Trump meanwhile was a complete mess, that unintentional jab at JD Vance was hilarious.

[@tages_matuna]

I was so waiting for this video. Love it! Good job Vlad! 🤟

[@DougWedel-wj2jl]

Trump never changed. It was Harris who brought a better game. In Trump’s mind, he had just as good a debate as ever. Likely his supporters felt unmoved as well. So it’s a question of who changes their minds. I see a lot of people trying to influence the Evangelical Christians but this will take a long time for the shift to happen, likely won’t influence the election in Nov.

[@rbettsx]

There is a general tendency among commentators to critique Donald Trump as if he was a politician. Personally, in him I see no political vision or motivation .. only a howling, desperate need for self-aggrandizement to shelter very deep wounds, and highly tuned, primitive mechanisms for satisfying that need. Discussion of his political strategy or tactics seems to me fantastically over-complicated, and to miss that simplicity. This mind has no concept whatsoever of guilt, love, or the well-being of any person other than himself.

[@petermcinerney6418]

Vlad, from Australian point of view - albeit of one that has avidly followed American politics for the last 30 years, your blythe view: that Trump won the debate over Ukraine. is not only unfathomable but very disturbing, for all the reasons that Kamala Harris so clearly defined.

[@jessicarowley9631]

Lovely to see and listen to you today. I hope this didn't knock you flat for too long.

[@vukasinjosic9719]

i've been literally waiting for this video, with a sense of quietly joyful anticipation

[@jps0117]

"'Morning Joe' is often a program that is about talking to a world that isn't really there." I laughed out loud at this, and I am not the kind of person who normally laughs out loud, alone, watching youtube.

[@lifestoryguy]

Yep, Trump got scrambled up - just like an egg. Lol.

[@messrsandersonco5985]

Who was it who said after his debate with Hilary, "Should someone who can be so easily baited have access to the nuclear codes?"

[@Immerteal]

Trump might have feared that the return question to anything related to bindes age would have been related to his own old age. And with the 2nd question "you have been in power, why didnt you do anything?" -thats also a question that can be very easily turned back around on him because he was also in power.

[@bingchery]

I disagree on Vlad’s point of Trump bringing up Biden’s cognitive disability, for if he does that, she can bring up his, highlighting that Trump is now the old man in the race in cognitive decline. She can also argue that the VP’s job is to assist the President with whatever problems arise, and she has done that to the best of her ability. Trump would’ve allowed his VP to hang.

[@begr_wiedererkennungswert]

Thank you and 🦴 for the algorithm.

[@Beya045]

Your wisdom and strength are an inspiration; thank you as always, Vlad.

[@ddewittfulton]

I do not think the Taylor Swift endorsement is trivial. There have been two celebrity endorsements that have made a difference, one was Oprah for Obama, and the other is Swift for Harris. We should keep in mind that Swift's fanbase include either new voters this year or new voters since 2020. This contingent of Gen Z are by and large apolitical in terms of party politics but they are socially engaged in very profound ways. These young adults came of age during the pandemic, and have only known a world with social media. Swift endorsed Harris, no surprise, but she also cleverly pitched the concept of early voting to her fans. That is not a population that has traditionally engaged in early voting. And while I am sure there is some Venn circles that overlap Swifties and Trumpists, I would wager that THAT block will vote Harris/Walz

[@nancyflorida9863]

As of this afternoon, there have been 337,826 visitors to Vote.gov referred from the custom URL created and shared by Swift.

[@dr.rainereschrich1549]

Thank you! All the best for your health!

[@obinator9065]

you can call him stupid :)

[@Lgaard1]

HI Vlad. I know your channel is not about psychology, but if it were, i would be important to distinguish between full fledged NPD and just narcissistic trait. NPD people are delusional and therefore much more dangerous. Lots of love and god bless you. :)

[@deealday]

The vice president has no damn powerrrrrrr other than to vote on a 50/50 senate split. so sick of that line You can’t expect the VP to govern like the president the past 3 1/2 years

[@uhaudoh5444]

Dick Cheney would like a word with you... 😂

[@deealday]

@@uhaudoh5444 wait that was different 🤣🤣🤣

[@tages_matuna]

Kamala's face when trump talked about pets in Pennsylvania was a masterpiece stroke.

[@_amalfitano]

Thank you so much, Vlad! I missed the debate since I fell deep asleep during it.

[@janronschke7525]

🤣 Same, last memory i had was him rambeling about how good his covid policy was.^^

[@NeistH2o]

3 am for me 🥱😴

[@Kim-J312]

I couldn't stop laughing at trump🤣 . He is like an SNL skit of a drunk uncle at a Christmas party 😂😅

[@aiden1156]

Thank you for the video! Tried to organize my thoughts on the debates and you helped a lot!

[@Oomph6006]

Trump went into Abe Simpson mode..

[@coldwar45]

Don’t insult Abe Simpson like that LOL

[@GorgeDawes]

Abe Simpson didn’t duck out of military service.

[@Oomph6006]

@@GorgeDawes You are right he's more like a wimpy Abe Simpson..

[@f_lawless7689]

It would really mess with my head to have my facial expressions inter alia being analysed so closely...