TOP CUSTOM CARDS OF THE WEEK #23 | Card Review | Hearthstone

[@nachoocampo9263]

"I think Hearthstone is ready for a 3 mana 4/4 with a minor drawback" *Dancing swords has left the chat room*

[@Maxiebon1234]

Nacho Ocampo lol dancing swords drawback isn’t miner tho

[@flophoenix]

@@Maxiebon1234 yes, thats why it left. It would become useless

[@Willowisp927]

@@flophoenix Wrong. It is only played on mill decks which is then an upside.

[@flophoenix]

@@Willowisp927 but then you'd probably rather play selfish shellfish or coldlight oracle as they draw more and have a bigger upside

[@patriarchofthebugsnaxfamily]

"Draw 5 should not cost 5" Meanwhile in 2020 *Secret Passage Intensifies*

[@PlutoDarknight]

Forget Secret Passage, Druid got that as a legendary minion even before that. Malygos Druid laughing their ass off at that card.

[@xcadbane101]

But he was right! It should cost 1 instead

[@Icetea-2000]

Elise the enlightened does exactly that but on a legendary minion and in a highlander deck

[@Attonitus]

Meanwhile in 2022 a 2 mana draw 5 and keep them exists

[@DanilegoPlays]

Impending catastrophe go brrr

[@XelnagaPo]

"Draw 5 should cost something like 8" I guess dealing 5 damage, gaining 5 armor and summoning a 5/5 should cost 2 then

[@Lasergurka]

Well yeah, thats exactly what takes UI so strong... draw 2 cost 3, draw 3 cost 5, draw 4 cost 7, and UI blows that out of the water.

[@JustHANO]

It's suppose to be balanced because its all you're suppose to do in that turn. Obvusly not balanced tho.

[@imtx_xmti]

darnell168 It’s in Druid, there is no need to be balanced

[@CL-jq1xs]

and that is why UI is considered OP genius.....

[@mancubwwa]

Well UI is worth 17 mana and 3 cards. (Shield block+sprint+firelands portal). It's ridiculusly OP

[@Meca-Mat]

Medivh the Accursed (a dual class card): *exists* Blizzard: Write that down! Write that down!

[@fallendeus]

I mean it's a pretty obvious design for a dual class card...

[@DanilegoPlays]

Wait, I didn't realize this video was done before dual class! They even predicted the dual class card background!

[@KKKuma]

HS is not ready for 2 mana 3/3. How about the 0 mana 3/3 that Zoolock plays? Pog

[@owenkanaal3457]

There's a good reason nobody likes that deck.

[@christianlawrence7287]

I was thinking about this the whole time he reviewed that card

[@ViashinoWizard]

Sometimes the 0-mana 3/3 is a 3-mana 3/3, and it has deckbuilding requirements.

[@Spengey]

which requires very specific deck building or the priest hero power. It's not the same.

[@IEatYourSandwiches]

yeah, you know, a good example for a balanced card

[@EldestOrion]

8:58 You could say that the strength of Shadow Word: Gluttony is really... *Feast or famine...*

[@WiShInGdRaGoN1324]

Nightmares

[@panwp123]

Ba dum tss

[@jonathanperigo6853]

These are the best ratings yet. Trump is learning and his rating system makes a lot more sense now. High Design rating for good and cool design, low balance rating for cards that would break the game. You're making me proud Trump

[@MrInkblots]

isn't that what every previous video has been?

[@jonathanperigo6853]

@@MrInkblots Not at all. He would call them design and balance ratings, and they would both usually just pertain to how it fit into standard

[@UnliVW]

A card that would break the game is poor design

[@BaritoneBro]

MrInkblots Not really, it’s been the biggest complaints under all these videos tbh.

[@iBasheveryone]

Someday Trump will be as good at card rating as Jonathan Perigo KappanoKappa

[@adambobadam6299]

"This is op because if you use this with 5 other cards something spooky happens"

[@mr.nazareth4501]

Hey somebody in the ladder is bound to exploit it somehow

[@forceoflazy]

I think Shadow Word: Gluttony might be the worst card Trump rated so far. It's either completely game breaking or a completely dead card in your hand,

[@gotrix2965]

Yeah, i thought that aswell. It’s so badly designed.... And even if it works the Priest is ; haha there goes Guhldan, there goes that, or whatever, what a idiot playing cards.... Like Trump said Azari ( and also Togwaggle to an extent) do kind of the same , but at least they require a setup and you can prepare for what’s coming.

[@silentsniper1516]

And now it’s kind of a real card lolol

[@forceoflazy]

​@@silentsniper1516 Well also destroying half of your deck makes a huge difference

[@MsLucho1998]

That Medivh hero card is one of the most boring fan card I have seen in a long while. The battlecry, the hero power, hell even the art all of them are so dull.

[@FirewolfClash]

Luis Gomez are the fan cards from reddit or where can i find them?

[@FirewolfClash]

bobby bumbob thanks!

[@CrowFGC]

And all of the problems with it if you saw my analysis post

[@kowen112]

Motion's Memes ^ Yea that card was insanely dull and boring

[@CrowFGC]

David DotExe 1) "The" is capitalized in the primary card's title. Additionally, while it isn't necessary, my personal belief is that the title should have a comma. This would cause the title to be "Medivh, the Accursed," which is overall more professional. 2) Missing word in the "Curse Tap" Hero Power. It reads:" Draw (1) card *(improved by damage dealt to Hero this turn)*\--implying that damage dealt to either Hero would draw more cards. 3) Improperly worded Hero Power. Curse Tap should instead use "improved by damage your hero has taken this turn." See: [Floating Watcher](hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Floating_Watcher). 4) Missing punctuation in Hero Powers. There should be periods at the end of the text of Curse Tap and Cursed Fireball. See: [Tess Graymane](hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Tess_Greymane). 5) Spell Damage is supposed to be in bold. See: [Unexpected Results](hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Unexpected_Results).

[@itsdachief]

Hearthstone isn't ready for a 2 mana 4/4 HERE I CUHUUUUUUUUUUUUM

[@cattata01-_-38]

@@RealLofef "j Jonah Jameson laugh",your serious?pay you for being useless?

[@Willowisp927]

It's almost like it has a huge drawback that can lose you the game on the spot...

[@nelsonray5109]

I really like t he Frok, The Forgotten Mage.

[@ГенийЖизни-л7ю]

well trump already reviewed a card with exact same picture,it was like lich king but a small murloc. I dont like when custom card creators copy other cards' art

[@macdiddles7000]

Super broken for 4 mana

[@CatDzns]

Actually perfectly balanced at 4 Trump often goofs on the balance of things, hence him messing up on set reviews all the time. The card is 4 Mana gain 5 armor and 1 spell damage that ain't shit in this meta. And would be stomped.

[@andyspendlove1019]

@@ГенийЖизни-л7ю why? Theres only so much relevant free art out there. Do custom card designers also need to be artists? Or take the time and large amount of money to commission someone?

[@joelsalyer5544]

Like the FF mage art.

[@davidf2244]

13:00 apparantly no duplicates in your deck is a big enough downside to add a copy of your hand to your hand and summon a 5/5 for 5 mana on a legendary though. Which the class can copy xD Hilarious in hindsight

[@lillieofthevlly]

it is a big enough downside though, perfect forgery would be too strong

[@kurgo_]

It's funny because perfect forgery is basically Elise the Enlightened.

[@avataraang2685]

Yeah but Elise has a ccondition to do her thing.. and it's a legendary.

[@runixc2915]

@@avataraang2685 this is the dumbest comment I've ever read

[@Willowisp927]

It's way funnier that you don't understand the difference. Also Elise is a druid card which isn't well known for dumping whole hands on cheap spells.

[@Liverator]

*I'm that kind of person that stalks r/customhearthstone for cards that can be broken. Perfect Forgery is the BEST* Trump didn't mention the otk with Perfect Forgery I had. When you have no way to draw cards or if your next card in your deck costs 0 or 1, Play Spectral Pillager and Shadowstep it. Now you have a 4 mana Spectral Pillager in the RIGHT of your hand. (This isn't as much for the OTK as it is for consistency, essentially, this is preparing for the OTK, like discounting stuff with Taurissan) Now, end the turn. Next turn, you have these cards in your hand, 2x Perfect Forgery 1x Prep 2x Counterfeit Coin 1x Spectral Pillager Play a Perfect Forgery. So now you have: 2x Perfect Forgery 2x Prep 4x Counterfeit Coin 2x Spectral Pillager Now, play the 2 RIGHTMOST coins in your hand. Play the RIGHTMOST Prep, then the RIGHTMOST Perfect Forgery. Before you play your Forgery, you hand is as follows: 2x Perfect Forgery 1x Prep 2x Counterfeit Coin 2x Spectral Pillager Once you play the Forgery, it duplicates the other Forgery, then the Prep, followed by the Coins. Now, your hand is full. Therefore, the Spectral Pillagers are not copied. So now, you hand is like this: 2x Perfect Forgery 2x Prep 4x Counterfeit Coin 2x Spectral Pillager So now, by repeating that, you can play as many cards as you need to kill the enemy with a 4 mana Spectral Pillager.

[@greeksquad2884]

Shadow Word: Gluttony should make you and your opponent draw cards equal to your hand size. Then you get a huge advantage, but you just milled your entire deck.

[@MajkaSrajka]

cool.

[@AdrasHoriaGaming]

should cost less mana, then

[@kylenetherwood8734]

Then it could be called gluttony project or something.

[@mattsmith457]

@@kylenetherwood8734 The Gluttony Buttony

[@Chetthew21]

This is really good because it makes your hero a glutton as well. Cool flavor

[@Jonjon13Jonjon13]

I think something to consider for balancing the last card, is upping the damage AND manacost, this way it's a bit of a nerf because it becomes less flexible and probably harder to combo with defile, but it's still useful and flexible anyway. Also nerfs the synergy with the spellstone.

[@MajkaSrajka]

and with spellpower.

[@123mickymouse123]

At that point it's just cheap shot with some potential health loss synergy.

[@CL-jq1xs]

he did consider it and he said you can't up any of the stuff...... further nerfing the card would just make it plain bad.

[@MrJsintic]

Its 4 years later, but I want to redesign "The Living Mountain". Cut the "can't be destroyed" text to start, replace it with can't be targeted by spells. Use the Collosal text to replace "this minion uses 4 board slots". Use the Collosal minions give the mountain variable attack to attempt to ease up on the potency verse aggro 9 mana 1/15 "Taunt, can't be targeted by spells. Collosal+2" Collosal summons: 0/2 "Can't attack" "The Living Mountain has +1 attack on your opponents turn" Flavor text "What would a spell even do? It's a mountain." I don't know if these numbers work. Or if other people were recommended this video like I was to even see it. I just want The Living Mountain to work.

[@Crusader3454]

im always amused by cards like living mountain that do actually exist but just by name, or sometimes effect like snake oil vendor, but this version of living mountain in shaman would still probably be fair.

[@kellyp3859]

“2 mana 3/3 doesn’t belong in hearthstone” I agree bro.. *plays 2 mana 3/5 with rush*

[@dragonqueenniisan4122]

Ya know what would be cool, a wild pack. A card pack thats 100 gold that has all wild only cards in it, as in, no standard rotation cards could be obtained from it, but, you could get any card from previous expansions. But you have a much higher pool of cards to choose from now. This would be nice for F2Ps trying to get into wild, or even older players that want more wild cards and dont want to spend only dust on them.

[@herrkapilz7459]

Or just making old packs available

[@okei6694]

Interesting, I like it. But, it would ruin hearthstone. 1 star design 1 Star balance

[@slushyjarl5486]

Can't tell if I'm getting r/woooosh ed here but uh, old packs are available? You can buy a pack from any set on blizzards website.

[@ShylKest]

Slushy Jarl Yes. But he was saying without using real life cash. You can buy old packs, but not with gold. He even said was referring to F2P players.

[@Willowisp927]

Literally happened and didn't ruin anything

[@gammafighter]

I wasn't able to articulate this feeling until now: most of these custom cards make me hate people who like these cards. These are awful. Who would ever consider these good? How are these the top-rated???

[@thegoodoldays911]

Cuz people are mostly only concerned with "hey this card seems like it would be fun to play" instead of "Is this actually good card design"

[@guikhgyjv5688]

@@thegoodoldays911 yeah but does it have to Be that serious since all these excact cards Will most likely never Be printed anyway so why not have some fun with it? There Are still cards that pop up on here that Are actually good design and could be a thing in the future so its not all memes

[@thegoodoldays911]

@@guikhgyjv5688 I never said people couldn't have fun.

[@SuperUnunquadium]

Because people want to have fun making dumb cards without actually thinking about design, but also want to be jerked off by card ratings. That's why you see so many bad players in this comment section trying to defend custom cards against the oh-so-oppressive Trump review. They want to have mindless fun, but also be given good grades.

[@kassandramartin3016]

I always hate going onto CustomHearthstone. There's SO many bad cards, and everyone wants to argue that Quest cards aren't a problem in the game despite Quest Rogue being such a problem that it's been nerfed twice. That, and quests as a whole generally make games way too much about one thing. The Hero cards from KFT have the same problem for the most part (actually, Druid's is the opposite). Whenever a single card can warp gameplay so much like Quests and Death Knights, it isn't fun for anyone.

[@johnherrera5261]

People try too hard and forget that less is more the custom medivh is a perfect example is a horrible card with way too many mechanics going on it's just ugly overall. Last week I saw flanking coursier a pirate 3 Mana 2/4 rush that ignores taunts it's perfect simple at you could easily see it being printed unlike medivh which is anything but simple and trying way too hard.

[@matthewhartman1855]

Yes and I agree but people go to custom card posts to see the game mechanics bent to the edge of what could be possibly seen as balanced - not for balanced vanilla type cards.

[@azazelop5223]

But that pirate sounds boring. I don’t care if a card is printed or not, I just want to see fun and interesting designs.

[@johnherrera5261]

Michael Kelly imo custom cards should be cards that have potential in the actual game and could help fix old archtypes pu ish some op cards etc i get the occasional fun cards but a card that does 10 different things the turn you play it is not fun at all and if you think it is please explain to me the fun you have playing against shudderwock is it fun getting your board frozen watching your enemy heal and cheat out 3 6/6s knowing there's nothing you can do to stop it next turn?

[@AM-we1es]

Custom hearthstone is, to many, making cards wich would never see print and pushing mechanics to their limit

[@3ternalHours]

@@johnherrera5261 I appreciate your position but disagree. I hate seeing the same old shit trying to fix overload shaman. It's boring and lacks creativity. Custom cards are for people to explore design space within mechanics that blizzard left behind, not to be limited by the same design choices and constantly print vanilla minions or predictably archetyped cards

[@moallayoussef5462]

"permanent +1 spell damage should not cost 4 mana" i wonder how much should permanent +3 spell damage cost? maybe 5 mana on a 7/7 minion?

[@antiwitch8078]

*All spaces are occupied, would be better, and give them the Archetype, Boss Minion.

[@antiwitch8078]

*

[@maximbiscop4451]

+Anti Witch flavor wise that might be, but that would make the card unplayable weak, it would need to be bugged to a 10 mana 10 15 or something like that, which would be absolutely insane because shop I giving away 3 extra spaces isn't that big of a deal, giving away your entire board is

[@redeclaw]

Anti Witch what are u talking about

[@antiwitch8078]

What I said.

[@redeclaw]

Anti Witch tf is that

[@TheAlphaG0ldfish]

I’m not much of a card designer but I think an unsilence card would be cool

[@lachlanmann4511]

Could Shadow Word: Gluttony work as a way cheaper "your opponent draws until they have equal cards in hand" for some sort of fatigue priest?

[@bearjaws9505]

Just putting this out there, the Medivh Hero card was made for a weekly card making competition called, "Beyond the Game" To resemble stuff like Amulet of Domination and Rewind from both Monster Hunt and Dungeon Run.

[@flaminggalaxy-osubindingof1283]

Aoe can deal with the living mountain if each of the 4 spots take their own damage

[@Mouse_Librarian]

"this card has positive applications for the user. Design: 2 stars." Ridiculous. This makes me think that if the Lich King were a custom card, Trump would dismiss it as "too complex".

[@tolman4497]

Well, all the Lich King cards don’t interact with each other, do they? It isn’t like, Frostmourne, 5, 3 Weapon, Deathrattle: Give your Army of the Dead a 1 mana discount.

[@jaqf]

It kind of is too complex lul I bet that thing sucks for new players

[@ezekielbenavides2740]

Lich King and cards like it are legendaries

[@rosco3]

8:20 its one card that contains all of the following keywords. Echo, Rush, Taunt, Charge, Poisonous, Lifesteal and Immune. Its just too much complexity with one card...

[@llljjj007]

I love how Trumped used Azari as an example of a good design about a minute after talking about the problem of the "Russian doll" design.

[@detenator1]

He didn't say it was good design. Just that hiding a "instant kill" effect behind 35 mana is a lot more sane than hiding it behind 8 or 16.

[@amethonys2798]

@@detenator1 it's also on a legendary which the other warlock card wasn't. Another thing to note is each seal says exactly what it does and logically makes sense. First one is a 2/2, then a 3/3, then you kind of figure it out. Hes completely right that in 6 months people are going to ask "what is a crushing hand???".

[@daniellucas5522]

Azari only has two different things hidden in the dolls. The nesting doll trap is when you have a dozen different effects going on. The card he was talking about had 4 different cards, each with a different keyword, and each with a special effect with different cards. There's too much in each doll. Azari is good design, there's only one card that you need to understand and it's at the end of the chain. Pyros is good design, the dolls are simple and the progression is obvious. When you make every doll do something as well as give you another doll, it becomes annoying to remember the order of effects and if they have interactions, and in the case of the murloc you need to know the three other cards it gives you.

[@EvilCrash3000]

The "nesting doll" design isn't even bad. I'll take that over boring cards any day. Hearthstone could use some complexity. And the cards he criticized for being "too complex" weren't complex at all. Look at ysera, lich king, rexxar, etc.

[@leotamer5]

I think people often conflate novelty with good design. Novelty can be good, but it is not inherently good. Yes, by itself Mrrcbeth isn't that hard to understand. You get 4 bodies and draw 3 specific spells. But now how does this interact with the other cards in your deck. If you only have 2 slots open on the board, which witch does it spawn? A random one? Do they spawn in a specific order? And what are you playing against this. Long after these cards have rotated out, are you suppose to remember exactly what Healing Rain and Crushing Hand are?

[@Gabrielcall1]

2:44 isn't this minion bad against control decks? Because if it takes 4 spaces doesn't it take 16 damage from a flame strike ? I am curious because Trump said it is good against control. Sorry for the bad english.

[@coldfusion230]

Too easy to set up defile huh? How long did Trump spend on that final board clear puzzle again?

[@elmostachojuanoh]

I think 8 mana perfect forgery is too much mana for "draw 5 cards" and my reason is comparing that with ultimate infestation: you have to really think far one or two turns to set up a UI and this kind of mechanic pops out when you "draw" that many cards. Dead man's hand also is a card that needs you to think twice about the cards that you let get out of your hand and also have downsides if you get cards that you dont want to copy

[@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa]

8 Mana is WAY too much for Forgery, it'd be literally unplayable. 6, maaaybe 7 would be nearer the mark.

[@DongEnhancer]

Dual Class is a pretty interesting mechanic, not surprised Blizzard made it into a thing sooner or later.

[@fillosof66689]

11:10 Cabalist Tome exists and generates three spells for 5. In this you get extra 6/5 across multiple bodies with the drawback of the spells being created only after the murlocs die (and thus vulnerable to silence) Maybe fixed by making the card summon three 0/1 murloc apprentices with taunt OR Making the spells created upon the death of the three little minions random? This has an upside of sidestepping the rotation related issues, since the random spell pull is subject to format rules.

[@warptens5652]

10:35 What is a Death Knight card? What is a Dream Card? What is an AWESOME invention? What is a Spare Part? What is awesome loot? What is a powerful Artifact?

[@robertlupa8273]

What is a Power Chord card?

[@tolman4497]

Cards that have a single layer of “Nesting Doll.” Play a card. Get a unique card. Play a card, gives you a unique card at the end of your term. Simple, see? And those cards don’t then all interact with each other. It isn’t Frostmourne, Deathrattle: Add Charge to your Anti Magic Shell, it’s Frostmourne, Deathrattle: Summon any minions killed by this weapon.

[@warptens5652]

witch o' lightning doesn't give charge to witch o' thunder either mrrcbeth creates unique cards that give normal cards, while marin the fox creates a unique card that gives more unique cards it's obviously easier to read crushing hand and say oh yeah that's the 2mana deal 8 with overload than to read Dream Card and say oh yeah that's the 0mana sap, the 2mana 5dmg aoe, the 4mana 7/6 dragon, the 3mana 3/5 hexproof and the 0mana +5+5 that kills the minion later

[@matthewhenry635]

The 3/15 taunt that takes up 4 spaces is balanced IMO if you just make it so those spaces can get hit multiple times, like say if you used flamestrike it'd take damage 4 times instead of one making it easy to clear woth aoe but not single target :)

[@ufonom2]

But if you reduce cost of perfect forgery by 5 u can play it(if you have 2 copies of it with cost 0 in hand) 30 times and play card for 6 mana that deals damage for each card you play this turn

[@icymeow3417]

There's an error in your judgement. The reason why things are sometimes mistaken and assumed wrongly in hearthstone, is because the text is so simple, that you don't know how it interacts in weird situations.

[@shadowzking101]

It's nice to go back to these and see some ideas that got adopted later on in the game (albeit changed slightly in some cases)

[@ambrusali2002]

"draw five should not cost five it should cost something like 8" actually blizzard thinks it should cost 1 mana

[@hoangnambach5279]

Blizzard is not ready for 2 mana 3/3.... I guest 4 mana 8/8 Giant in Warlock is more balance

[@dougjackson82]

On Mrrrcbeth: what would you think about the witches CASTING the spells, instead of adding them to your hand? Obviously, the initial cost would go up, like 7 or 8.

[@terragame5836]

The Perfetct Forgery only copies 5 cards in the best case. On average, if you're an aggro rogue, you probably have like 3 cards in your hand, so that's a Nourish. If you're a control deck, you probably have around 7 cards, so it's also a Nourish. Furthermore, unlike drawing 5, this doesn't help you catch up on card count, it only works in a good setup. So, I believe, it's a pretty well balanced card, since it gives you an infinite combo only with a really specific hand. (This can be compared to Test Subject priest or even maly rogue)

[@EmmaKAlexandra]

Seems like Shadow Word: Gluttony would be a bit more interactive if it draws the number of cards in your opponents hand. Then it can be played around, but still punish combo and control

[@gavinhui9054]

I like how Mrrcbeth at 10:00 was showcased two weeks after my class just finished reading Macbeth. Coincidence? Possibly.

[@glorne27]

ironic that this video predicted dual class cards

[@nameoftheedgyvariety4988]

...I think I had an idea to minorly help balance living mountain, keep immune to destroy a minion, but have it take double damage from aoe? Like it takes multiple spaces, so a flamestrike would at minimum hit it twice(taking half its health) logically

[@casualbydefault]

Im pretty sure the medivh hero power doesnt keep flipping, you get the power based on your class, so fireball for mage, tap for warlock

[@Atrus159]

Some other digital ccgs like Eternal have a thing where if a card generates a specific other card you can hover over the card and it will show you a picture of the card it generates (and if that one generates a card you can mouse over that one and so forth). I think hearthstone should actually just have this now, and I think some custom cards would be a lot more reasonable if you could do this. That's not to say the nesting doll thing isn't a problem, even with the preview it can still be hard to take all the stuff in, but I think for instance mrrrcbeth is acceptable (if a bit complex) with that feature.

[@sparty23ful]

with Midivh the Accursed you can cursed fireblast your self to the use curse tap to pay 2 life and four mana to draw 3 and keep doing this so draw 5, draw 7, to OPPP

[@rafaelnascimento5800]

if he change to be like dr boom hero power, thats change at the end of your turn, it would be a amazing card

[@moose2820]

11:27 wouldnt this card be balanced as a legendary 7 cost spell? Cant have 2 of it and it's also expensive

[@aupakaixo2472]

One two card combo for around 5-6 mana and 3-4 damage to your hero which maybe clears a board, or play paladin for a six mana safe boardclear.

[@wizzy3532]

5:45 thats my profile picture lol

[@kassandramartin3016]

It's a fanart of Vivi, isn't it?

[@wizzy3532]

Lupo Borracio idk i just searched wizard and liked this picture thats it

[@redsybot8303]

@@kassandramartin3016 it is VivI, yes

[@jonathanc8845]

It's been a year. Crushing hand is 2 overload 3, healing rain heals 12, though to be fair, I can't remember what it cost. Also if I'm wrong consider your point made.

[@noneofyourbusiness3288]

11:51 I like the idea of forging cards to be a control-rouge mechanic, but it should have been done differently. Maybe copy your opponents hand, or add you opponents hand to your deck, or something to that end.

[@Tubz1990]

What about perfect forgery 12 mana? Forces the prep and at that stage in the game you could otk them will a full combo

[@potatoman7979]

But you wouldn't be able to pull the living mountain out on the board with Master oakheart since the living mountain takes up four spaces. If you want to do that you would have to build a deck around that combo.

[@Thought39]

Could the last card be good if you doubled everything?

[@aarondraws7699]

Change perfect forgery to 3 mana "add a copy the leftmost card in your hand" that way you cant copy perfect forgery (or if you do its just a waste of 4 mana) and you can't copy a hand and do stupid things. It's 4 mana because arcane intellect is 3 mana for two cards, this is one card that tutors, so relatively balanced.

[@joshgould2707]

Guys, perfect forgery with valeera works exactly the same, at least once a turn, im sure there's a way of going properly infinite but even if it isnt. It's still very good

[@cathsaigh2197]

With Perfect Forgery he's focusing a lot on "draw 5" being too good for that amount of mana, but really glosses over the fact that it's conditional. And if you want to copy a good hand you can't play those cards before playing the forgery which loses you A LOT of tempo.

[@amethonys2798]

Acting like having a lot of consistency in maly rogue isnt going to make the deck good. Perfect Forgery cuts the amount of burn you need in half meaning you dont need to draw nearly as many cards. That's like saying floop isnt good in maly druid because it means you cant play the malygos or whatever until you have floop.

[@Rethlit]

well... quest rouge exists, so copying a lot of 1 mana 1/1s isnt that much of a tempo loss. Perfect forgery, followed by 3 or more 4/4s.... 8 mana 12/12 draw 3

[@diablofrag2177]

Also the fact that it was changed to legendary so infinite can't be achieved without mega RNG shenanigans. I think he was just focused on the idea of drawing 5 (which it isn't even, it's different in terms of what actually happens, I hate that anything that would add a card he just goes "draws X cards", I find that entirely incorrect in most cases), and found that sprint was also a thing. Even in this meta it would have to be its own kind of deck because it doesn't fit in anything right now? At 4 mana it can't be in odd rogue and I'm not sure if it would be a tech in the espionage rogue. Moreover, everyone said juicy melonboy would be OP as a 4 mana sprint that tutors but it only ever stuck in one deck in wild. I feel like perfect forgery would be even worse than melon because of the preparations and limitations, you can't use it unless you have at least most combo pieces in your hand, it isn't drawing because it isn't adding NEW combo pieces to your hand, and if you copy 5 cards then you have 10 at the end of the turn if you don't play any, risking burning another combo piece or valuable card since the draw at the start of the turn could be a card that you don't want to copy. To summarise, I think it was perfectly balanced as a 4 mana legendary spell :P

[@andreiburghelea5469]

Yeah, also, Mira's Unstable Element costs 5 and could potentially draw you 10 cards

[@NoeLPZC]

Here's the thing though: through random draws in the early game you're likely to have drawn a mix of early cards (which can be played for tempo) and late cards (which can't be played yet). Once turn 5 rolls around your hand is going to be mostly mid-late game cards - i.e. strong, powerful, _useful_ cards going forward. Perfect Forgery is now BETTER than "draw 5", because you're "drawing" Vilespines and Leeroys instead of Flame Elementals. And then there's the "Shudderwock" problem of duplicating powerful legendaries and or Shadow Step, although since I can't really think of anything that's worse than Shudderwock, and that got printed, this probably isn't that big a problem.

[@CaptainSweatpants90]

In my opinion, the living mountain would be perfectly balanced if it got damaged 4 times by board clears. Thoughts?

[@chronostech6470]

I think a cooler hero power for Frok would be a 2 mana gain 2 spell Damage for this turn, it basically turns your hero power into a celestial elemental without the added body, and the mana cost of the card as a whole would need even more of a mana boost

[@TigerKirby215]

Frok could work if they added a card that silenced enemy heroes. I know that was kinda a meme when The Litch King could do it but now that we're getting hero cards with passive effects (Hagatha, Dr. Boom) having a "Hero Breaker" that disabled all enemy hero effects for a turn or two could be interesting, and a strong way to counter Hagatha Value or Dr. Boom Control.

[@80kei]

perfect forgery would have to be a legendary or else you could just perfect forgery while holding a perfect forgery, malygos, and at least one sinister strike. 16 dmg in two turns or 8 dmg every other turn so you can perfect forgery. plus you get a 12 health minion so the dmg potential is more if you add another sinister strike and backstabs for controlling the board.

[@pedrorodrigueziii4859]

Would "Perfect Forgery" be balanced by making it legendary and simply adding a mechanic that says "This Card Cannot be Copied" ?

[@sk8rdman]

1:56 Watching this in 2020 after Scholomance expansion.

[@idontneedoxygen3572]

I think you should take into account that because a card its broken it doesnt mean blizzard wont print it (UI, corridor creeper, etc)

[@ottojagenstedt9740]

thats such a bad idea its not even funny

[@TheTLATER]

I know it's a joke, but I vividly recall the entire community thinking that creeper was terrible and a large number of people saying UI would be bad because you'd run out of cards/mill. We need Trump to point these things out.

[@SuperUnunquadium]

I'm really glad hearthstone fans don't get to have any say in the actual creation of cards holy christ.

[@kassandramartin3016]

I'll give you Corridor Creeper as being broken, but UI isn't broken. Everything surrounding UI is what is broken; namely, Wild Growth, Nourish, and definitely definitely definitely Spreading Plague are what make UI such a problem. It itself is a fine card.

[@123mickymouse123]

@@TheTLATER Trump mentioned this when reviewing Mulchmuncher, but if a card can do something for free it is worth checking out. Hearthstone is fundamentally about card and mana advantage. If a card lets you get ahead in either of those two aspects, then it has a high chance of being good. (MtG is a great example of this, since the two strongest cards in the game are Ancestral recall and Black lotus.)

[@WLCLeagueofLegend]

soooooo, the living mountains feect of taking four spaces doesnt matter, but its op because oakheart can bring it out with two other minions ?

[@novaagar2708]

SPRINT COST 4. :)))))))))))))))))))))) 11:59

[@Rethlit]

PSYCHMELON THAT DOESNT TUTOR, OP

[@Gihntemos]

I thought he said "because sprint *draws* 4," which is likely what he was thinking of and just said the wrong number.

[@KKKuma]

@@Gihntemos no. sprint costs 4. You think of the wrong number

[@KregorEight]

When you prep it.

[@retiredwdgaming9494]

Hearthstone isn’t ready for a 2 mana 3/3? But in another custom card video trump wanted to buff a 1 mana 2/3 to a 1 mana 3/3, because it was too weak 🤔

[@Syrange13]

Which one was that? Did it have a serious downside? I think it probably had serious downside. You're just being annoying on purpose.

[@insinuo]

When you went over perfect forgery I was dying

[@notquiteaweebyet1054]

the problem with medivh is that 4 cost take 2 damage then draw 3 cards as a hero power would certainly see play in agro

[@Shikaschima]

Hmmm, I was just thinking... A 3 Mana Rogue Epic Spell that reads "Add a Copy of the two left-most cards in your hand to your hand". It is pretty much an AI with the difference that you do not thin out your deck and you can manuver it to draw two specific cards from your deck so to speak.

[@munelo1]

9 mana in mage wins you the game but 6 or even 7 mana +1 spell damage is fair? Also, where did "health is a ressource" go? 1.5 mana for 5 armor that do nothing?

[@nathanstark8606]

would forgery work on kingsbane or would it go like with valeera hero power where you just get the original version with no buffs

[@joelsalyer5544]

Little surprised trump didn't mention the obvious black mage reference from FF with the mage hero power.

[@BlakeFaeMorton]

Bards of Hallow's End could be fixed designwise by just making all the bards do more or less the same thing and changing it from random to "Next" or some other varient. On a glance I think 2 mana 2/2 and each one summoned gives immune to the one before it. First one does nothing. I think that would be a little strong but probably weaker than it looks. You could adjust the balance from there. Maybe lower the health on all but the first.

[@DrLong-js9qo]

I got an idea for the Forgery card. "increase the Mana cost of the copied cards by one". This also means they can't go infinite cause you'd end up making dead cards. Although 6 Mana is still insane for that so it could be balanced further

[@jakemoore5064]

What if perfect forgery was called "poor forgery" and you gain a copy of your hand, but all minions lose -2/0 and spells lose -2 damage? Costing 6?

[@Liverator]

So a 5/5 is worth roughly 5 mana Iron Hide costs 1 mana Shadowbolt costs 3 mana 11:53 5+1+3=9 Ultimate Infestation costs 10 mana. It's a 1 mana draw 5 cards.

[@opeson7109]

John Robson 2 mana* dealing 5 damage and summoning a 5/5 is roughly a firelands portal which is 7 mana plus the 1 mana iron hide making the draw 5 2 mana which is a lot more balanced

[@Junebug89]

Damn so you're saying ui is overbudget and busted? No one else has figured that one out before

[@Knight_Of_The_Blood_Moon]

The Living Mountain could be turned into a spell that "summons" the Mountain. Maybe it would summon X amount of minions with either from 0-5 to 1-4 attack - health stats wise. Needs a bit of tinkering to really balance, but i'm no expert

[@OctopusGrift]

Could Dark Soul stone be 2 cost 2 damage? Seems like it would lower the flexibility of the card.

[@emostiker222]

(in regards to medivh the accursed) so if you play it as rogue, then you play tess, do you get rogue plus mage cards, or rogue plus warlock cards? do you get rogue, mage, and warlock? or perhaps you just get rogue? these are important questions...

[@AleskanderPog]

You get mage and warlock spells. It doesn't say anything about rogues or the class that you play, just mage and warlock.

[@emostiker222]

@@AleskanderPog i'm talking about a hypothetical scenario. you play as rogue, you play hallucinate or something and get medivh. if you want to play tess greymane who replays all are class cards that don't match you're class, does tess consider you a mage and replay the warlock and rogue cards? does tess consider you a warlock and replay all the mage and rogue cards? does tess consider you both and you only get you're rogue cards? does she consider you neither mage nor warlock and you get to replay both? ill admit my previous statement could have been a bit clearer, but the question still remains. put simply what class does this count as for tess greymane.

[@AleskanderPog]

@@emostiker222 I believe how it works is when you play a hero from another class, you lose your Rogue class "identity," and take the identity of the hero you played, which would be both mage and warlock. Thus, you would replay all of your Rogue cards since you are not a Rogue, but the warlock and mage cards would not be replayed.

[@CancentricStallion]

Medivh the accursed, change the hero power by simply limiting it to 1 a turn. If used, the next one takes it's place usable next turn. Keep the improve effects

[@michael12345699]

9:00 it can maybe cause them to draw to fatigue

[@chengsta5537]

how would supercollider work with living mountain or three-legged thing. Would it just not work?

[@VinceTenia]

wait, won't board clears inflict quad damage to Living Mountain?

[@albionflux]

Make the bards work like shamans power Summons a random but will not summon 1 you already have unless have all 4

[@MrTimthetitan]

I want Frok printed!

[@SkipperinoHS]

0:14

[@RefutoTeKami]

I am convinced that this is a bot

[@mann0311]

How you do dis so fast.

[@w1ndblade810]

@@RefutoTeKami i wish he were a bot. He is a real person.

[@smugron1101]

The 3 legged thing review didnt age well.

[@jacksonwoods4809]

The bard's of Hallows and was pretty balanced there was no low roll based their individual effects like rush lifesteal poisonous and taunt makes it mediocre but not useless to drop as 2 or 4 mana

[@godofgamer5316]

hey what about flawed forgery, 7 mana add a copy of your hand to your hand but the they cost 1 more

[@DanilegoPlays]

Wait, I didn't realize this video was done before dual class! They even predicted the dual class card background with Medivh

[@DJKinggo13]

Awesome to see Perfect Forgery printed as a mage legendary in the next set :D

[@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa]

10:40 What are Death Knight cards? What are Dream Cards? What's Thaddius? What are Dr. Boom's Hero Powers? There are fucking TONS of cards in Hearthstone that do things that you simply have no way of knowing what they do until you either play them or look it up. At least the ones that list specific card names mean you can look them up in the deck builder instead of having to exit to your bloody web browser.