Hearthstone: The Grand Tournament Review - Part 11 - Trump Changes Cards (Expansion)

[@TrumpSC]

If you already watched this when it was published two days ago skip to 19:37 for new stuff. Basically, there are twice as much cards here now. ~ Jens

[@MrLinguist88]

+Trump Thanks a lot!!

[@fuzionk]

love you Trump

[@sniperfreak200]

fuzionk You mean Jens.

[@darktigre8214]

Trump You're the only youtuber I'm not bored of watching post tgt vids with.

[@MenardiChan]

Trump Don't you think, Acidmaw could easily be a 3 Mana 4/2? If you compare it directly to Equality+Consecrate, which it does exactly with Acidmaw+Unleash, since it - in some way - sets all minions health to 1. It gives you a board clear of the enemy board and sets your minions health to 1. So the combo would be exactly the same mana cost.

[@Rave.-]

I feel like they balanced every inspire card with a full Coldarra Mage setup in mind.

[@masterplusmargarita]

I think the way to fix Void Crusher is to make the Inspire effect destroy a non-Demon minion for each player. That way you're not sudokuing your 6 mana minion every time you hero power. Maybe that's too powerful, but I still have trouble imagining that version seeing play.

[@Pattonator14]

masterplusmargarita that would be really interesting tbh. Demonlock might actually stay in the meta rather than dipping in and out like it has been for the past few months

[@I_THE_ME]

Sudoku... Kappa

[@JulTeb]

Probably too powerful, since you could play a demon deck and abuse this effect (adding repeatable deadly shot effect to your hero power? Insane.) In fact I think this card is a complete mess, the mana cost, stats and effect don't work together at all. Nobody wants to play a 6 mana 5/4 except if the effect is incredibly good. Nobody wants to play a 8 mana deadly shot that also requires you to sacrifice a creature. I think the card would be a lot more interesting as a 1/2 + stealth + this effect for 2 mana. If you have an empty board, it's really comparable to deadly shot. Or it could have open the game for some kind of token warlock that would have benefited (at least with favorable rng) from this effect.

[@bickflick]

masterplusmargarita I thought perhaps it destroys an enemy minion and discards a card. Is that trash? No idea.

[@trogdorstrngbd]

masterplusmargarita Probably too powerful since really only Warlocks run demons. I think just changing Void Crusher so that it cannot kill itself would be fine.

[@TheCookiezPlz]

18:46 *Opponent plays deathwing* *Convert coin deathwing*

[@TheCookiezPlz]

RainbowMosh But where's the fun in that?

[@Cuestrupaster]

+TheCookiezPlz Win the game and safe your hand?

[@MnrScruff]

Alex 5432 Tryhard shit? In my Hearthstone? DansGame

[@SLiV9]

TheCookiezPlz And that would be fine. Compare Mind Control for 10 mana, or BGH+Dr.Boom for 10 mana, or Faceless+BGH for 8 mana.

[@arseniykorchevskiy1564]

Or just mind control

[@__-be1gk]

Just make Flame Lance deal 1000 damage to a minion

[@uka3938]

The thing is, it would just be a worse assassinate

[@__-be1gk]

Uka39 You say this as if someone doesn't know that.

[@Jaxter0987]

Uka39 It already is a worse assassinate since it doesn't kill minions with divine shield...nor does it kill huge health minions in its current state.

[@Urza26]

Jaxter0987 It'd be a tech card for minions that reflect damage back to their masters. Like that new demon. Or maybe in the future, there'd be a minion that heals their master for damage taken. As is, you're absolutely right.

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

Alvanix I was actually thinking something like that. The fact that it deals damage at all is enough of a drawback to make it not strictly better than say a fireball. It can deal 999999999 damage really, as long as the damage is it's drawback. It still won't kill minions with divine shield or get around deathrattles.

[@LordofBroccoli]

Great changes. Too bad Blizzard pays homage to none but their own wallets. They may also have some excessive earwax, cause they haven't been listening to too much feedback. Who knows...

[@BigRatNate]

Marc Shanahan not to be that guy that defends blizzard, but they do kinda listen to feedback, just most of it is retarded. Though, it's also hard to say making loads of bad cards is listening to their own wallets, because who is going to buy packs for bad cards? And, for the whole, preorder 50 packs thing, anyone that does that is retarded anyway, and yeah, I am against preordering and think blizz was dodgy as fuck for doing that.

[@defrte]

+Thalesin If they're offering a sale then so what. Blizzard doesn't run off the joy of free players His entire comment was a rant...

[@BigRatNate]

Not Visible I never mentioned a sale? I just said there wasn't a lot of merit behind his issues.

[@fatjack2b]

+Thalesin To be fair, pre-ordering in this case is a bit more justifiable, since you know EXACTLY what you're going to get, though I'm definitely not a fan of throwing money at blizzard. It seems we are in the minority in that regard, though.

[@LordofBroccoli]

Thalesin And yet, people will still buy at least 100 packs. I guarantee it. Because the 15 or so cards that are good will woo everyone enough to spend all of that money.

[@Edlin261]

As a graphic design student I just want to mention how much I appreciate the quality of your videos. The links provided to view each deck teaching is great, the backgrounds used for card reviews and the clever head placement are fantastic, and all the other little touches added in are what makes yours a really above and beyond hearthstone channel. Thank you for putting in the effort to make this videos extra enjoyable.

[@bevan185]

Even without your buff northsea kraken will rule the arena

[@bevan185]

Grim Grin gr8 b8 m8

[@BestInSlotGaming]

Agreed with pretty much all of this. People are saying (and will continue to say) that we're valuing cards based only on existing decks and ignoring the potential of inspire-focused decks (let's face it, Joust is not going to be a thing) but I disagree. Inspire is simply too slow and requires too much set-up for minimal impact. They may be viable, hell they may be good, but they're not unfair enough. Grim Patron and Control Warrior and Combo-Wombo Druid and Face Hunter... you can't see inspire decks competing with these at all, too slow, not enough pay off. Maybe those of us who view these cards poorly are wrong but I think within a month we'll see it; a scarcely changed meta.

[@BlakeFaeMorton]

I feel like Trump is overcenterallizing on decks that already exist in the Meta-game. That said, Hearthstone isn't thinking about them enough...

[@Blackreaper777]

TheMortonator Well of course, because that's what any potential new deck will be compared with. If new deck isn't competitive against current meta, it's not going to take off.

[@BlakeFaeMorton]

Audrius Kliukas The problem being a new deck could easily be competitive without needing a little power boost.

[@Blackreaper777]

TheMortonator Keyword here: could. Patron warrior caught people by surprise, so yeah, it's possible. But that's only few cards, which are meta-changing. Others, which will not spawn new decks has to and will be compared to current decks and if it's worth it to include these new cards. So I don't think it's worthwhile to concentrate on possible decks, which might not even be viable in the first place. Although Trump did mention even those decks where appropriate (e.g. Druid beast deck)

[@BlakeFaeMorton]

Audrius Kliukas The problem is Trump also aggressively costed those cards to overcompensate. If Beast Druid is a thing, and it easily could be as that is an archtype which scarifies very little, than his change to the 6/6 would be slamming the OP button and making out with it. Do I think Beast Druid will be a thing this expansion with just that one card and the other that already exists? No, but I think once you have about three more Haunted Creeper level cards and one more Beast Druid synergy card in an expansion or two, it will. Then it will have to be nerfed and we have seen how reluctant Hearthstone is to change cards.

[@Blackreaper777]

TheMortonator That's the thing, 6 mana 6/6 is not OP, it's baseline, nor it will become OP with an actual beast deck. Emperor Thaurissan offers much better mana discount and it's much easier to setup. "No, but I think once you have about three more Haunted Creeper level cards and one more Beast Druid synergy card in an expansion or two, it will. " What is the point of printing a card which MIGHT become playable only after some future expansions? I thought the point of an expansion is to give players new options NOW, not 2 years in the future.

[@TwoMinutePapers]

Anyone have a "push the envelope" counter? :)

[@ModrunOfficial]

- I feel like they should add a card that says cant be targeted by silence so that mass dispel priest card is more valued ;3 - And i want a minion that says all minions have -1 attack or something like that - Im going to make a control rogue nerubian deck, anub'arak, Beneath the grounds spell, eggs, gang up to copy 3 mana 4/4 nerubians etc :)

[@I_THE_ME]

That "mass silence" card is called Mass Dispel.

[@Zukkor224]

MoDRun "a minion that says all minions have -1 attack" This could be a card, reminds me of Alexstrasza's aura at Wrathgate in WoW that prevented PvP and said something like "All your hostilities cease while in the presence of the Life-Binder".

[@KnaveRain]

Rank 25 comment section.

[@ModrunOfficial]

Felipe Acosta not everyone plays to win all the time.. some people play purely for fun using weird cards

[@CrazyHand196]

MoDRun How would -1 attack work... they heal you?

[@IdeaChovet64]

you want to nerf grim patron warrior? what about swap warsong commander stats, make it a 3 - 2.

[@oliverbergmann6117]

Sven, the Rogue Knight And then? You will still die to the most common way you loose to patron by warson berserker....so would not help at all

[@Farbenfinsternis91]

Oliver Bergmann You can't whirlwind twice then though since it'd kill the commander, resulting in the berserkers not charging anymore.

[@oliverbergmann6117]

***** Sure about that? as soon as you play a card with the commander aktives charge on said card resulting in the minion to not "sleep"...I hightly doubt that an already charged up card would loose charge when the commander dies as it would then also loose charge when it goes above 3 attack

[@Wardog11111]

Sven, the Rogue Knight That would kill the deck, way too harsh for a deck that's only the tiniest bit overpowered. The win rate is about 60%, which is about the same as all other top tier decks.

[@Jojosization]

Wardog11111 The problem is actually not the winrate, but the type of deck it is. I loved miracle Rogue and they nerfed it, because it wasn't interactive with the board at all. Almost the same goes for patron. Throw some card drawing minions on the board, stall a bit with weapons and low mana removal and finish with your combo. How is that so much different from miracle? Still, it exists.

[@E-A-Z-Y]

BLIZZARD TAKE NOTES

[@johnmaxwell8279]

nice one

[@simonko9393]

The editing is phenomenal in these videos! You're the best Jens!

[@ITommyTom92]

Joust overall would of been better if instead of a draw becoming a loss, a draw would go to a "rematch" until there was an indefinite winner.

[@fangshu476]

That would be a really good idea.

[@oscarloveless3207]

This is some incredible editing, jens, layering the snowflakes on top of the cards is really well done

[@GreggKJewell]

I honestly think Ball of Spiders was 6 mana instead of 5 solely because of Starving Buzzard. I think Blizzard should have made buzzard a 2/2/1 (old stats) with "Whenever you PLAY a beast, draw a card." This would remove UtH, AC, BoS, Ram Wrangler etc. from being OP to card draw but still viable.

[@Urza26]

Gregg Jewell That's actually a very good twerk on your part. Much better than what it is now.

[@MrCrashDavi]

Gregg Jewell 10 mana play 3 webspinners a raptor and draw 3 cards? That's fucking awful.

[@Ultraroth]

33:18 What if we changed Frothing to be a "Whenever enemy minion takes damage"? Would that nerf it too horribly? I at least know doing that would nerf or destroy Patron, but frankly that does need to happen.

[@Lennon1398]

I don't agree with Spawn of Shadows at all, it's meant to be what it is.

[@Kharaaj]

+Lennon1398 I 100% agree with you.

[@rafaellum]

It seems that in Trump's mind every card has to be good in control. I think if Spawn of Shadows was a 5/5 and played in that *hypthetical* aggro priest, it would be overpowered indeed, because it would be better than your average 4 drop AND have a beneficial (for the deck's win condition) effect on top.

[@Lennon1398]

rafaellum Aggro priest is gonna rek it all bro

[@yotamshitrit6820]

rafaellum But that's the thing, there is no aggro priest. Look at poor old Upgraded Repair bot which is a whopping 5/9 mech for 5 mana, but sees no play because the deck he is supposed to go in simply isn't viable. Making SoS 5/5 won't even change it's playability because you can't put a card into a deck that does not exist.

[@Lennon1398]

Yotam Shitrit Yeah, you MAKE THE FUCKING DECK AND PUT IT IN IT. Seriously, it's a new expansion. If you really don't expect anything new to show up you're beyond stupid. The same shit will not be viable forever, just as the same shit won't be bad forever. Everyone thought Patrons were terrible and look where that went.

[@zakasis4124]

While watching this on stream, I remember how the chat acted to a lot of these cards, just spamming OP :P When Trump said that you could make Flame Lance do 12 damage instead of 8, that's not actually a drastic change... Like Rogue has the card Assassinate, which destroys a minion for 5 mana. Flame Lance is basically Mage's version of that, and it's actually worse. It's the same with some of the Joust cards, where Trump buffed the effects of winning the joust. I was cringing when chat just kept spamming OP again and again. Many were acting like you were going to win the joust every time, when it's not like that. I however don't like how Trump isn't against power creep, but that's just me. P.S. A+ work on the editing of this video, Jens.

[@FeamT]

I have to agree with almost all of these. Though I think you underestimate the potential of Kvaldir Raider, and if Inspire does ever find its' place in the meta, you might find it being at the heart of it. Surprised you stopped advocating for Junkbot though! I still really want to see that card fixed.

[@trofeunotazero]

Feam T Unless they change some cards it doesn't look inspire will be a thing but I think in arena Kvaldir will be pretty good. If it was 5/5 as Trump suggested then it would be op

[@Bain0o]

Holy, the production value on these vids is amazing. Some other channels could really learn from this *cough* tempostorm *cough*

[@oscarharrysson799]

trump, if this was a card, will it be good? 1/2 mana 1/1 at hp at the end of your turn gain 1 HP *inspire*: atk and def switch

[@kylecallan8634]

No

[@oscarharrysson799]

Kyle Callan never asked you!

[@Gebirges]

1 Mana would be fine, switching the Attack and Life would make it strong on one but bad on the other hand. So it can be good but it's likely to die turn 2 or late turn 3. I think Priest would enjoy the card and maybe Rogue.

[@Urza26]

oscar harrysson This is a neutral card right? I think that priests and druids would probably love the card. Would have been extremely strong imo if you follow it with something like Velen's Chosen or the +2 +2 from druid and you draw it early.

[@Urza26]

It's good with buffs : ) . Please break my neck. tough guy. I've always been terrified of vegetables.

[@defrte]

I think the cards are way too overpowered, there's no downside in stats for having inspire. The thing trump forgets is that inspire is not meant to be good individually, at least not in thier highest potential. Look at tavern brawl joust for example, the inspire deck is meant to have synergy and allowing it to snowball into the next turn, this is something that needs to be judged as a deck and not as individual cards like GvG. But some idiots below will only scream about how blizzard is sucking in cash and not listening to players like that has any bearings on anything....like ffs kids

[@twoflouers]

ChrisCarTheMarauder did you really play Tavern Brawl? Inspire seems really good and sometimes even not fair, and joust simply can't compete with it. Few high cost cards in your opponent's deck and your jousts are absolutely inconsistent. If you win with Alleria, it is almost always because of lucky Master Jouster, Trump is underrating that card.

[@twoflouers]

Not Visible i totally agree about inspire mechanics, but let's be fair, jousting cards are garbage, rogue legendary is useless, and there's many more simply bad cards. They were always sucking money from players, i'm personally okay with that, but this time they just got carried over the rational line with that greed. I've been playing HS F2P (except adventure mode) for 2 years, and i have to say - they need to change something in the way they update the game, or this expansion will be last for me and some other players. I simply can't say i want to farm gold to buy those new packs with so few really good cards.

[@BestInSlotGaming]

twoflouers Just because the Inspire deck beats the Joust deck means nothing because a) that Joust deck is AWFUL, not even just because of jousting, it's just poorly made and b) it won't be competing with joust decks, inspire is competing against the decks we have now.

[@1512boogie]

Not Visible I don'T know how you can think that, you really DON'T UNDERSTAND HEARTHSTONE you really don'T understand how to know if a card is good

[@vesmolol9185]

twoflouers Yeah, inspire is sooo good.... against a complete shit-ass joust deck that blizzard cobbled together. It's not gonna stand a chance against Zoo, Tempo Mage, Handlock, Face Hunter etc. etc.

[@imaloony8]

I saw an interesting idea that my main man BlameTruth had for Warsong Commander: the minions it gives charge would only keep charge if they stayed at 3 or less power. Yeah it kills OTK Warrior, but it's only a moderate hit to Patron and gives the opponents a little more wiggle room. And let's be honest, there really shouldn't be 50 damage burst combos that are so easy to get off.

[@Plague_Doc22]

imaloony8 At that point I think I'd rather just have it give charge for one turn to all minions played after it.

[@ambershao2421]

"Charge for one turn" Charge only lasts for one turn anyway :/

[@TheReaper002]

Plague Doc Not sure if you're sarcastic, but this change would be a buff considering it would give anything charge and wouldn't even fix anything with Patron OTK.

[@Plague_Doc22]

Criminally Insane not really as its 7 mana left over.

[@TheReaper002]

Plague Doc the OTK happens in 1 turn, IN 7 mana, you don't even need 10 mana to execute it. All these cards reduced with Thaurissan: Prior turn Deaths Bite 4-1 (ready to trigger whirlwind) on an empty board: 0 - 1x Inner Rage - 4 Damage 0 - 1x Whirlwind - 8 Damage 1 - 1x Cruel Taskmaster - 6 Damage 2 - 1x Warsong - 0 Damage 4 - 2x Frothing Berserker - 4 Damage Attack with Death's Bite - 8 Damage 30 Damage against an empty board for 7 mana total.

[@joshuaworden274]

Is this the last video in this series? I was hoping to see that video where Trump was going to go through the cards that he had changed his opinion on, and take a look at the set as a whole. Was that plan cancelled?

[@TenkDD]

but what if Void Crusher destroyed a random non-Demon

[@KirkPwns]

then it would be op

[@TenkDD]

Kirk Sparks Good, push that demon deck

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

I don't think 8 mana to destroy a minion and get 5-4 is anywhere near op, lol I don't know if that would even be considered good

[@JulTeb]

+shuvo rahman Because if you were to play that in a demonlock, the card would basically say "as long as voidcrusher is alive, your hero power also cast deadly shot for free", and that would be quite stupid.

[@KirkPwns]

TheTenk Tenks lmao

[@mizuluhta9131]

Two things that have been mentioned on reddit: 1) Change Frothing Berserker so that it can only get buffed once per minion each turn. 2) Joust would be better if it counted the mana cost of each player's hand instead.

[@Huli-Man]

re-upload?

[@english2me694]

Magnus Bekkengen He made the upload last night private by the time I had finished watching it.

[@AstridCeleste96]

Magnus Bekkengen More cards have been added, Jens said skip to 19:37

[@tonicasasayas7481]

Therrion ` skip the trump 19:37

[@javo517]

That change to Dr. Boom's bots at 31:31 is very good

[@camicasecraft]

in my opinion acidmaw could easily be 5 mana

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Yes it can for example 4-2 body is worth 3 mana and its effect is worth 2 (it's basically eauality)

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Actually acidmow hurts you more then equality for example most heroes can hero power and kill any of your minion. So basically enamey hero power or any damage card becomes Destroy your minion. And they could also live acidmow on the board so you never get control. I know they won't eather but imagen it against a freeze Mage.God the more I think about this card the worse it gets. And it makes me laugh so hard when u compare this shit to other class card,

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Yes but same could be said about equality as well

[@ajjdgj6tmgedvnmtmek]

Changing Frothing Berserker's card text from "Whenever a minion..." to "Whenever a friendly minion..." would also be a minor change to the card that I think should be thought about as a potential adjustment.

[@TheSonicShoe]

I think I actually agreed with every single one of these changes. almost all of these are ideas i've considered myself at one point or another.

[@janeweber8654]

9:50 "Joust is a battlecry effect that reveals a minion in each deck." It's not always a battlecry effect...

[@RedsHitpostMedia]

I know its nearly impossible to do but i would like a game in which every card is at least played in some type of deck. Like they dont have to be good just niche. Example is Malygos whos awful by himself but if you combo with spells hes insane Or even if theyre just vanilla change up the stats so if for some reason someone wanted that stat line give it to them. ie magma rager a 6-1 now that ice rager exists or better yet make ice rager a 1-5.

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

That really will never happen in a card game

[@striker865]

I really appreciate this video, I had the same sentiment about the cards needing help. there are quite a few that adding a health wouldn't be bad, and we could actually get excited about them

[@bioshockinfintyfan]

i like how the one of the top comments of the previous video is about not being a next part. Who is laughing now?!

[@adilsoccer7]

I am also a bio shock infinity fan

[@bioshockinfintyfan]

Adil Musthafa what did you like the most about the game.

[@thybellmothbreeder6440]

+bioshockinfintyfan The bad writing and terrible gameplay.

[@bioshockinfintyfan]

Thybell Mothbreeder the writing wasnt bad... until the end. And the gameplay was good the problem is that it wasnt like a normal bioshock game.

[@Phyrexious]

How about adding something like "Can't be charged" on Berserker? I feel that's would solve the main issue with the deck.

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Simple make it 4-3

[@Phyrexious]

shuvo rahman That would radically change the way the card is played though. I feel the card is fine the way it is now, except with Patron and especially charge. The charge instakill is the problem and fixing that would solve a lot about Patron.

[@lycanthoss]

make the text "Whenever an enemy takes damage gain +1 attack"

[@masterplusmargarita]

***** Not being able to charge Berserker would kill the deck. I'm all for killing it (I really hate playing against the thing, plus I really like playing Midrange Paladin), but I recognize it's not something Blizzard (or a large part of the community) wants. The big issue with the card is its ability to kill you no matter what: if the Patron Warrior has a board, they get buffs off of their board and kill you. If you have a big strong board, the Berserker still triggers off of it and kills you. Trump's idea is good, but I think it'd be a good idea to change the text to "Whenever a friendly minion takes damage" instead. Heck, it could even be a friendly character. That way, you can at least stop the Frothing growing huge without gimping your ability to kill the Warrior as a minion-based deck, but they can still punish you for growing a board by getting three million Patrons.

[@Phyrexious]

masterplusmargarita If Blizzard likes the one turn kill combo's than that's their decision, which I highly disagree with. The Berserker is the main source for this program. I'm fine with charging Patrons which is already insane strong and hard to deal with. But the Berserker charge IMO has got to go. Or you know... you could simply play it the turn before like *ANY OTHER DECK* has to do, and give your opponent a chance to react to you. I like the archtype Patron spawned, and the difficulty to play it, but one turn kill combo's is not a very interactive and thus fun game.

[@dan240393]

Can Voidcrusher crush itself?

[@jacobster59hs37]

I believe it can.

[@rodrigosoto1272]

Yes

[@therandomperson02]

Even King Krush can't do that.

[@Plague_Doc22]

Strappleberry Nifkin just like how a ghoul can eat itself (Trump throwback video...top tier reference by me, I'm slightly impressed by myself)

[@Intelus]

+Plague Doc >a ghoul can eat itself Spoiler alert: It can't. But it can eat Flame Imps. (I'm slightly impressed as well.)

[@Svartben98]

I really agree with those last three cards (I really really do!), but I'm not sure about all the TGT ones... I mean, we haven't even played with the cards yet (except some in the tavern brawl), so it's really easy to make miscalculations. I think Trump is underestimating the Inspire mechanic. Like, if you have 2 small minions with inspire, it's value imo. If you have a big minion with inspire, you got both Maiden of the Lake and Fencing Coach to enable them, and if they survive a turn or two - then holy crap. In this meta Inspire would probably be too slow, but I think the meta will slow down with this set. There has to come at least one new deck (I'm looking at you, Shaman), and if there's one new deck, then the other decks have to adapt and maybe even a new deck shows up. Eventually, the meta will probably have changed. Of course, I could be entirely wrong. But this is my speculation. Some of the cards are obviously bad when you look at them though, so I can't disagree with some of your changes. I would say Gadgetzan Jouser should be a 1/2 that gains +2/+1 though, in my opinion. The chance of getting a 1/1 is too severe...

[@BestInSlotGaming]

***** But they won't survive, that's the problem. Who's going to leave a Maiden of the Lake on the field? Or a Garrison Commander? There's a chance we're all undervaluing Inspire but I think within a month it'll be scrapped as a competitive deck idea.

[@Svartben98]

***** If you look at it that way, practically all minions with inspire or Inspire synergistic effect also have Taunt. Maiden of the Lake is pretty durable with 6 health though, so I think she will be able to survive most of the time.

[@JustNeedaQuickList]

***** So few things that can actually remove maiden efficiently, either they use two cards to get rid of maiden and you get value, or you use it effectively and you get value.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

'I know what I'm saying.' Yeah, we all saw how that turned out when Trump evaluated Dr. Boom. jk

[@Draqo360]

It is old now but I was thinking about the flame lance, and wanted to mention if it was four mana it competes with the fireball slot, and the 8 dam could kill a rag during the late game and give you a half your turn still.

[@Chaddington69]

Today on KZbin: Why Trump shouldn't be working for Blizzard.

[@czarley6208]

Sideshow Spelleater: Add your opponent's hero power as a secondary one. Using 1 hero power blocks second one as well. What do you think?

[@jonathansandquist987]

I wanna play Trumpstone instedad! :D

[@jonathansandquist987]

Jonathan Sandquist except the boom change

[@allenfierte2493]

Change boom bots. Deathrattle: Can target any minion on the field, and does 0 to Shamans, or any card they control, and 9999 to any card that a huntard/fuckrnjesusmage controls, or face.

[@tylermohr2683]

I like the idea of subtle changes, because i don't want unique decks to die either. I also like the idea of pushing power creep for the sake of creating decks that could be playable. Another well made video and great thoughts.

[@Jobjobbable]

I wish I was a bird

[@julianvillaruz]

Joust only needs one boost: You should win ties.

[@kyrizzledrizzle5485]

There are no comments while i am typing this but comments will be left as i am typing therefore not making this the first comment but i will be ignorant to keep my self esteem going. First

[@nikitakovalyov5785]

Nerfing Frothing Berserker is a great idea Trump! Because we still sometimes see warrior in arena and everybody knows that arena is for mages only.

[@Nhadaly]

Loli Squire? :D

[@pancaxmaplesyrup]

Shady dealer can't be a pirate or else it'll gain +1/+1 on an empty board because the battlecry comes into effect after the card is summoned.

[@okerbel]

wtf again?

[@AstridCeleste96]

Just finished the 10th video and wondered if the 11th was out, click Sub Box and see "3 minutes ago". Lovely!

[@dangerchrist123]

To be fair, King's Defender was viewed as weak when it leaked (and was thought to be +1 for each taunt) before the reveal of "Taunt Warrior" as an archetype Blizzard is pushing with stuff like Bolster and Sparring Partner.

[@AvielMenter]

Frothing nerf was right on point. It deals with the one narrow area in which the deck really is a problem without making it nonviable.

[@AnstonMusic]

33:25 I really don't get this. Nerf from 3/3 into 4/3, probably just said wrong.

[@louischo2701]

Anston Music Can't get Warsong buff then.

[@dacr0n229]

I think the way to go with Frothing Berserker is to change his text to "whenever an enemy minion takes damage..." so it DOES punish you for overcommitting on the board but not actually that much because the problem with the frothings is not that they get so much damage from the enemy board but from the Grim Patrons you combo it with. Doing this change will make opponents of Grim Patron have to think about their board state more consciously but will not punish you for letting the opponent draw cards and reduce their cost with Emperor (which you cant do anything about if you noticed). So this change would make Grim Patron more interactive because you can actually play 2 minions and will not die from this because Frothing Berserker would only punish overcommitment. It might kill the Frothing but I am not quite sure. Please let me know your opinions :)

[@Mike4Lifexx]

4:32 You want more power creep? Because then Kvaldir would be essentially the same as War Golem, except you get to use your hero power as well. And you can keep hero powering.

[@Predator00063]

Question how would a Paladin Silver Hand casual deck fair? As in Silver Hand Regent, Hobogoblin, Quartermaster, Warhorse trainer. Would it be competitive?

[@InterestEPC]

27:50 But I thought you already fixed Demonfuse, lol.

[@Threadward]

When I saw Spelleater, I first assumed that against Mage, say, you'd get 1 targetable damage on playing the minion, or an immediate 2 damage to face against Hunter.

[@captaindrezz9418]

Are there actually cards that could be played in competitive play or higher ranks in TGT?

[@aCheeseMunchkin]

Just imagine for a second as an option a 2 mana convert 'put a copy of an enemy minion into your hand.' but if it was 'put a copy of an enemy minion into your hand it costs 1 less.'

[@rexbolton3718]

Those beeps are just quiet enough to make me think they're coming from somewhere else. I feel like I'm losing it lol

[@rvretv]

I actually really like the master jouster as it is. Felt like it had quite good value in the Grand Tournament Tavern Brawl...

[@holydush]

Wasn't Ogre Ninja played in the very early stages of GvG?

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Nope maybe in rank 20 but everything is played in rank 20

[@holydush]

shuvo rahman I'm pretty sure TidesOfTime had an Ogre Ninja deck.

[@jeffrey6259]

~~~~~THE DREAM SCENARIO~~~~~~~ Mage vs Warlock, Warlock has buffed his hero power with Justicar Trueheart, and Mage has Coldarra Drake and Maiden of the Lake on board. Mage unstable portals Wilfred fizzlebang and plays Sideshow Spelleater, copying the warlock's buffed hero power, then mage plays wilfred fizzlebang and draws infinite cards that cost 0 mana.

[@megauberduber]

I really love the new reminder box at the top.

[@adirsu2826]

The frothing berserker change is interesting but I think incorrect because the whole thing with grim patron is that it's essentially an otk deck take away the frothing and you can't get otks. I think it's perfect how it is. Even when I lose to patron I'm not mad cuz I can see how difficult it is to get the combo

[@unknown605]

the little text banners are so great

[@PhiloticSymmetrist]

A couple of alternate suggestions: Armored Warhorse: just swap the stats; a joust deck is always going to be control and a 3/5 charger makes a lot more sense in that context. Ancestral Knowledge: leave the overall cost at 4 but make it 1 initial, 3 overload; makes it a bit more unique with a bit more of a shaman feel to it, gives a bit more value to Lava Shock and makes it better at looking for answers than anything other than Tracking. Edit: also, I think Trump is a bit over-eager with some of his suggestions, such as the Spawn of Shadows, the 'downside' is nowhere near enough to balance a 4-mana 5/5.

[@AvielMenter]

Trump's evaluation seems to assume that Inspire will rarely be activated on a minion more than once. Do we have enough experience with that kind of thing to say that's accurate?

[@seancarroll2469]

I though Shaman would receive a zero mana draw 2 cards, with an over load of 4. To give a different spin on drawing cards like sense demons. Do you think this would be a good or over powered card ?

[@charoenwat]

as one of the few rogue player who tried to make a control deck, I cried every time I see poison blade because I just thought, I miss that old hero power but then assassin's blade is so much better

[@Threadward]

I think Nox's Acidmaw comparison was great: a 4/2 is a 2.5/3 mana body, and its effect is essentially a constant Equality, which is 2 mana, but in this case could be considered 2.5/3 mana because it affects summoned minions. So I agree that Acidmaw should be 5-6 mana

[@Luis5XD]

I fully agree on the "nerfing the frothing is all needed to nerf the deck" point you have, Grim patron as a card isn't cancer or anything, it even slows down the meta.

[@DanH11]

Some of the changes you proposed were good and made the cards playable while without being overpowered, but most of the changes were a bit much IMO. On a side note to consider with Priest's Convert card: Yes, Faceless is usually better because, like you said, you'll likely be trying to copy a good card that costs more than 3 Mana, but you also have to consider that any damage our debuffs you've done to the enemy's powerful minion before drawing your Faceless will also be copied to your Faceless when you play it. So, Faceless is a card you have to draw BEFORE you need it. Convert can gain value from a late game topdeck nearly all of the time, regardless of if you've already taken counter-measures on the powerful minion you're trying to deal with. And second side note: I love your change to Poisoned Blade. That version would be much more interesting. Third edit/side note: The card nerfs were all good and I'd like to see all of them implemented.

[@a540hel]

Would skeleton knight be OP if it is 6 mana, 7/4 and return to the battlefield if you win the joust?

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Wouldn't say op but really good

[@Reaperscreepers]

Yep.

[@a540hel]

Edison Li That would make it a very interesting legendary. I would build a deck around that

[@Jkfireball12]

No it wouldn't be. It's 4 health, it may never get to attack but still will cost you 6 mana...

[@darwinroberson76]

Compare it to the competing 6 mana neutrals. Sylvanas, emperor and piloted sky. All 3 are better then 6/6 skeleton knight. If you are in atop decking war and you can consistently win the joust then you will win anyway.

[@vodrake]

If the Ancestral Knowledge was 1 mana with overload 3, would you play it?

[@EvlNinjadude]

I most of all agree with the changes to Flame Lance... because Assassinate is a thing, and because Polymorph is a thing, and because the only card where Direct Damage to a minion would be preferable to killing it without damaging it was introduced in this patch as well.

[@NerdySatyr]

I really enjoyed your idea of Demon Fuse turning the minion INTO a Demon! So you could include non-Demons in your Demon deck, or use it as a combo with Sacrificial Pact to kill an opponents creature! (2 cards for 1). Which seems fair.

[@ejnewberry3469]

Could you make Anub'arak a 9 mana 8/5 that cant be silenced with the same deathrattle? Would that see play? Or maybe push it with 8 mana?

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

would poisoned blade be viable asa 4 mana 1/4 destroy any minion damaged by this weapon?

[@OMIMreacts]

How about changing Mad Scientist to a 3 Mana 2/2 or a 2 Mana 1/2?

[@ilostmywand]

Anyone got the picture as a desktop backgroup?? cant find it...

[@stanleyclark923]

The only change needed for Poisoned Blade was "Your *hero power* gives this weapon +1 durability instead of replacing it." And then all of those weapon buffs would see some play. Kingsbane makes this obsolete now, of course, but it would have rocked at the time.

[@juha135]

How there is so many videos about how to change all the tgt cards when they even are not out yet?

[@starlight0156]

I don't think the Frothing Berserker change would accomplish much since you can still get them to ridiculous ATK. I would change it to Whenever a friendly minion takes damage, gain + 1 Attack since that doesn't punish your opponet for trying to defend himself

[@_lambda4683]

What if void crusher was "destroy a non demon minion for each player" or would that be too op?

[@Zander0916]

From the moment I first saw Flame Lance, I felt like it should really have the text "Any excess damage is dealt to the enemy hero". Would that be so bad? If you use it to kill a Leper Gnome, you're dealing 7 damage to the face... but you also spent 5 mana, one more than Fireball. If you kill Dr. Boom with it, you only deal one damage to the face... I think this change would make the card a heck of a lot more fun without being broken at all. Also, it kind of makes sense to imagine throwing this huge flaming lance straight through a minion to hit the hero behind them... y'know?

[@NiksmanBoy]

I think convert is fine as it is, because Faceless does give you the minion instantly and most of the time it will be cheaper, but if you want to trigger battlecry, joust or silence (or maybe save it for a combo turn) it wouldn't do the job. I believe if it cost 1 mana it would have given priest huge adaptability.

[@Zam_from_NerdTube]

i think buffed attack minions should not attack with charge alongside the warsong commander if the attack is buffed above 3

[@jackbrauer8300]

What Hearthstone really needs is more cards with Untargetable by Spells/Hero Power or full Ethereal (immune to Spells/Hero Powers). Would make so many cool cards usable and make more cards that do not do something immediately on your turn possible and playable.

[@TheClassicalSauce]

There are certain game design choices that are intended to make the classes distinct from each other. In the case of Ancestral Knowledge, why should shaman be able to cast a spell that draws cards better than a mage? Hearthstone classes actually feel like their WoW classes to some extent, which is quite a cool feat.

[@shadowforce96]

The problem with a 1 mana convert is that just say you play a sylvanas on turn 6 on curve, now the opponent is on 7 mana and basically 1 mana draw sylvanas and can play it, and if they went second they have the coin and can use that to play it as well. I'm guessing the 2 mana was a balancing thing.

[@MeldinX2]

shadowforce96 True but if the player with convert want to spend 7 mana instead of 6 mana for sylvanas and not be able to play anything else that turn then that's not that game breaking. 2 mana for convert won't really see play other than maybe troll/funzies decks.

[@andros1486]

I think that most changes Trump proposes in this video are reasonable, but I think it is safe to say that Blizzard won't just buff/change a whole bunch of cards right now, since the set is not even out yet. If there would be any changes coming, it would probably like take a whole season with the set out.

[@Luzarioth]

In my eyes, the best nerf for Patrion warrior would either be: Buff Patron to 4/4, so he loses charge, or change the effeckt of Warsongcommander to the Hobgoblin style, where spawned minions don't trigger the effect.

[@BiggsBababooey]

It bothers me how Trump refers to all the cards in the past tense, "this card was so bad". I feel too many people are writing all the cards off before they even see them work.