Trunk protectors for your trees - update. Chicken wire, humidity, rot, and mice concerns addressed

Trunk protectors for your trees - update. Chicken wire, humidity, rot, and mice concerns addressed
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[@Double0pi]

I hadn't thought about rock piles to attract snakes. Great idea!

[@osmia]

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[@Debbie-henri]

They attract lizards, frogs and toads in plenty too, to take care of the little pests as well. I also found that weasels and stoats like to take residence in mouse or mole runs under sheds. Weasels sometimes conduct a very successful clear out of a stone wall nook in sight of my sitting room window. You know when the weasels are hunting as suddenly the wall just explodes panicked mice.

[@tgardenchicken1780]

hardware cloth, create tubes, can leave on year-round until the tree trunk actually touches it. You could add a strip of burlap during winter on the south side of the tube for sun protection. You went over lots of great points in the video. It is so important to include all of nature, integrate, don't segregate. Thank you.

[@DK6060]

I moved to hardware cloth after a beaver went through a plastic tube to get at a birch. But that also solves for rabbits. As an aside, does anyone have any issues with animals chewing currants? I’ve never had a nibble.

[@KerbyDaFrog]

Thanks for the info! New homesteader here!

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Torzaknian]

I love your videos and the things you have to teach us! I do sometimes have trouble relating to some of them coming from a completely different country and climate, being from the land way down under, Middle Earth, New Zealand. I have a lot more concerns about pest problems as we simply do not have the natural predators for them, be it rodent, insect or fungal/bacteria so the human has to fill that role by necessity. On the plus side though, there is food for rabbits year round so they don't touch the trees! 😊

[@bobburkinshaw9408]

Thank you, Keith. We have learned the hard way to be diligent in protecting our trees from rabbits. We also found that mice sometimes burrowed under the snow and chewed through the bark of some trees at ground level. Thus, now we always protect from the ground up. Sometimes we used 1/4" hardware cloth around the trees because its holes are small enough to keep mice out.

[@jenniferrobinson8698]

In suburban Iowa USA we have deer problem with bucks rubbing off bark of young trees. I need to get out by beginning of Sept & run trunk protectors and chicken wire fencing up 4-5 feet.

[@denissesheartyhomestead]

thank you for sharing this important information. creating balance ecosystems is the goal.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Absolutely!

[@MsCaterific]

💞

[@nyurr2196]

I am surprised I have never seen snakes in your videos! I see them so frequently in my garden that I am surprised I've never seen them while you are giving video tours! I never noticed their absence until you just mentioned it. Are they shy?

[@donnavorce8856]

Another thing you can use - I do this myself - use recycled cardboard taped around with duct tape. It's free and it works. If you have hundreds of trees (we do around 10K at the tree farm) it's not efficient. But if you only have a dozen or two (my home food forest situation) it's perfect. Just wrap loosely and tape near the top and near the bottom. You're set till spring.

[@growinginportland]

I might have to use some of these ideas to protect some of my plants from the squirrels. Squirrels are such troublemakers. I also see lots of mice out and about in my backyard since I’ve been growing food. I don’t mind because I have four cats inside. If the mice ever come inside the indoor predators will take care of it. Thanks for sharing.

[@annburge291]

When I had Akitas, they would chew my tree trunks and dig at the root ball regardless of how many sticks were about. So I used chicken wire baskets with the base cut and bent outwards along the ground. Anybody doing this, think very carefully how you fix the wire mesh. I found that using brightly colored electric wire in two circles helped. My first wire baskets were a sightly mess of long grass, mesh tail tangles, lawnmower catchers...

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Yeah, I would be afraid of my dogs still digging there and hurting their paws. Is that what you meant by "be careful how you attach" it?

[@annburge291]

@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy My main point is think how quickly you can remove the mesh and replace it back again or another tree. Hurting paws by digging and finding mesh didn't seem to be the problem in my case because I covered it with cardboard. The vertical cut line on the mesh was a problem because it could scratch eyes and catch on my socks. I ended up folding these inwards. The brightly coloured electrical wire was so I didn't have lost pieces of invisible wire floating around in long grass to break my whippersnapper on.

[@Debbie-henri]

My dog would lay against the wire mesh, pushing against until it was scraping the tree, en pushing small trees and bushes over. He would make a pet of the newest tree I planted, following me from one to the next. I found that surrounding the tree with a half metre radius of short sticks pushed into the ground (like a long bed of nails), was the best way to deter him.

[@jasminechatelain3]

Thanks for this! How about deer? I hear you about living with nature but deer have been known to decimate fruit trees where I live. I feel like it might not matter as much with full grown trees but because my trees are 1-2 years old if they eat a lot of buds that could be a problem. Most people where I live put up 8 foot deer fencing of some kind (including cattle mesh around each tree). . I'm thinking about planting native trees and shrubs they like around my perimaeer or close to my fruit trees and bushes in hopes they will be satisfied with those. Suggestions?

[@seanrichardson881]

😁👍👍

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Thanks for the comment and video idea 😀

[@CMSCK]

I was so happy that I attracted garter snakes but them noticed my toad population hugely declined.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

The toads should still be there, just maybe in reduced numbers.

[@Growinginontario]

Have you ever heard of bone sauce to prevent animal browse? I believe sepp holtzer uses this technique for trunk protection. I’ve been meaning to try this but haven’t found the time.

[@annburge291]

Your dogs would now really love to chew on these trees!

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

I've heard of that, and I've heard it works well. I've also heard of permaculturists trying it (because they'll do anything Sepp Holzer says), and end up attracting coyotes and wolves to their front door. So just be careful with that method.

[@Growinginontario]

@@CanadianPermacultureLegacygood point