TRUTHS about VEGAN vs REAL Leather

[@esteffaniavla7250]

Thanks for the video! I agree with you, Vegan leather does not decompose and only increase the number of landfill waste. To make a difference, we really need to reuse old materials as well as reduce consumption.

[@danielroy8041]

I say wear real leather and look after it. It will last for decades, and regardless of the decade it will still be timeless and stylish. Don’t buy that cheap ass plastic fast fashion which is killing this planet.

[@suhanibhandari5741]

Real leather is killing the planet more than vegan leather by killing animals

[@dieabsolutegluckskuche5174]

Thats actually not really correct, for example cactus leather is biodegradable. Also if it isn't, then it's a carbon storage.

[@disturbed4ever2]

Real leather does not decompose and ends up in landfill

[@WeiFinder]

@@disturbed4ever2 Have you ever seen any piece of real leather that has actually served a purpose during it's life cycle (not a babied antique) that wasn't complete trash after 50 years? Leather absolutely does decompose and end up and does end up in landfills. Plus, there's a HUGELY wasteful process to actually get your leather (ecologic and economic). If we have plant-based or synthetic leathers that can be fully recycled, then "even if" the process to get it is dirty, at some point it becomes a renewable resource. There's no perfect method, but using thousand year old techniques and wearing animal skins as decoration sure as hell ain't it.

[@michellemero]

Thank you. Very informative. I was in the process of switching over the Pleather. Now that you have shared your research, I think I will stay with leather until something better is out. Have a Great Day

[@nikopaschalidis4587]

Michelle Mero then watch how leather is taken from animals..... too cruel

[@yutaadi]

@@nikopaschalidis4587 animals already slaughtered for food. Their sacrifices will be worth it if we use their leathers for good.

[@mayartist4315]

@@yutaadi except it’s not as nice as that. We’re not really using the animal for all of its parts if we kill it (like if we kill a cow for meat we will use it’s skin for leather) no, many animals are being killed or skinned alive just for they’re leather😞

[@mayartist4315]

Watch THE CRULTY BEHIND OUR CLOTHING- LEATHER it’s very graphic though so beware; tbh I was sort of scarred but it made me never want to buy or even wear leather that I have ever again😭

[@michellemero]

@@mayartist4315 Yeah I could imagine. Good thing is I have stopped buying leather in anything. I am still using what I have, no use in creating more garbage out there. Since we have been staying home in this pandemic haven't had the need to buy anything in fashion anyways. Hope there is some sort of material out there that is non-cruelty and is biodegradable.

[@liamstacey419]

1. 100% grass fed animals can be raised to be beneficial part of SOME prairie and savanna ecosystems. 2. We could insist on environmental regulations of tanneries as he said. 3. Plant leathers, as others have noted could be a great solution. 4. The most important thing is for us to reduce our waste and unnecessary consumption. Make stuff that lasts.

[@tanzilahmed1992]

Check out Leather from Cactus. Its truly Vegan.

[@joeblowjo]

I heard they make leather out of pineapple also. Anything is better than real leather from animals

[@Sg-gs]

I thought he was going to talk about those actual plant options as well

[@robiulahmed]

Yeah, let's chop down plants. That's not going to be bad for the environment at all.

[@joeblowjo]

@@robiulahmed If you're a plant activist, There's far more plant and animal deaths involved in raising animals for food

[@MVMBOXING]

@@joeblowjo the animals were gonna die anyway for food ur brainwashed if u think vegan leathers good

[@nicolachoon8221]

Try checking out Cork leather? I've just heard of it and haven't really researched it (ended up landing on this video in between).

[@kevinhiggins7655]

Love that you're honest about both

[@katitadeb]

People who comment "there's is cork, apple, and cactus leather" You do realize that these materials are still pretty new, usually expensive and we're still far away for it to be democratized and affordable, don't you? I personally still don't know how much those products last, cause as consumers we should go for long-lasting products, and natural leather ones seem the most reasonable and affordable of all.

[@steev7343]

I just watched a video on the cactus leather and the guy who makes it said it’s the same as animal leather ....so it’s not as expensive but you’re right they are new which is why we’re trying to make it more known and the guy said it last more than 10 yrs or so I’ll send the link if you want it

[@subhrasankarchakraborty2746]

I totally agree with you. I will prefer real leather. We just need to be cautious to use Biodegradable products more while tanning. 🙏

[@steev7343]

Subhra Sankar Chakraborty leather from cactus is very good

[@joeblowjo]

@@subhrasankarchakraborty2746 you prefer slavery torture rape and murder?

[@HandiworksbyClyne]

Please discuss about pineapple, mushroom and cactus leather which is the true vegan leather.

[@ajaytanwar9467]

Can you please explain what is high quality Pu leather. Is it 💯 percent artificial leather or animal skin mix in it ?

[@subhrasankarchakraborty2746]

It is simply synthetic material. Heavily PU coated on top. Not Biodegradable. The term "PU LEATHER" is just to befool customers. No breathing properties. Sadly Amazon also use this term.

[@dianeharrison4975]

Nope it s plastic

[@wilsjane]

It does contain real leather, which is cut off scraps and sometimes second hand leather ground into almost powder form. It stretches slightly less, but has little additional strength or durability. Although the leather content is higher, bonded leather is the same thing.

[@martind349]

Waxed hemp is a nice look.

[@nickvogelius]

Most Vegan leather are made of the waste material you get when you extracted gas from cactus. So yes Vegan Leather can be Vinyl, PVC(Pleather), but most Vegan leather are made of partially decomposed plant material. That being said, most normal leather today is the result of a large meat production and the skin from a cow will instead simply go to waste if not used as leather. As long as we talk Vegetable leather, which though the name implies otherwise has little to do with plants other than some of the ingredients used to dye the leather, then there is no additional environmental consequences. Anything that concerns the cow's need for water and food(soya) are environmental consequences that will be present regardless of you use its skin to make leather or let it decompose in a landfill.

[@achillesomg]

does pleather peel?

[@d63810728]

i once bought a pair of stan smiths adidas shoes... it advertised genuine syn leather, as a kid i thought this was real leather why else they said leather? boy was i wrong, they really stink up my feet as well. the shoes r probably still trying to rot away after a thousand years later

[@Carlos-oy7xq]

There are several companies working with cork products (belts, wallets, bags, slippers...) totally environmentally friendly and vegan. I have several of Corkor brand, made un Portugal. Super nice looking and very good delivery and client service. I also try to buy second- hand products... and yes try to consume less.

[@yliberal6355]

Vegetarian leather is best made in South America, like Peru! They use vegetation to make dyes for fabric, etc!

[@mayartist4315]

This is a great video, I hope it gets more publicity! The only thing is I wish you had talked a little more about how horrible the leather industry really can be to animals... I recently watched THE CRULTY BEHIND OUR CLOTHING- LEATHER I was sort of scarred but it made me never want to buy or even wear leather that I have ever again😭 so I think if people had a combination of both that video and yours they would- well, they probably wouldn’t want to have ANY leather and I’m not saying that’s the answer but... we do have other options 👕🐮🦊

[@subzero4787]

animal leather users will try to oppose it and make negative publicity!

[@ATouchofEcstasyTV]

Beautiful video, very informative👍🏾 Thank you.

[@SARAH-zh2lt]

There's vegan leather made of cactus. Hopefully it becomes more available.

[@emiliapains5527]

I bought doc martens in vegan leather thinking it might be better til I learnt about the plastic side, so I came here to see what’s more ethical and environmental of sorts

[@treehugger7916]

I've never seen anything on health risks of wearing vegan leather. I wonder if sweating in say vegan boots could make chemicals absorb into your blood stream (or is that really far fetched?). Wearing plastic is really the worst in my opinion, so I'll stick to real leather and just buy less new stuff.

[@matboms8188]

Buying less stuff might be the best way to solve many of our problems

[@mayartist4315]

Yeah, I think the best way to go is don’t feel too bad about stuff you’ve already bought, but don’t buy anymore (just get things made out of other stuff) bc as bad as fake leather is (and I’m not saying to buy that) real leather is also hurting animals and way more brutally😖😭

[@aaronpearson1744]

You've never seen that because it's not realistic

[@TheNightwalker247]

Hey it would be really nice to see you checking out timberlands plans to get regenerative leather from farms with regenerative management.

[@MichaelMarkKhamis]

What about cactus leather ? Do a video with that.

[@DashSpaceski]

Nice easy video to watch thanks for the clear explanation. I am very careful with my sourcing of materials for my business. We can make the world better, Especially when we understand it better.

[@priyankarsasmal7522]

Dear sir Is vegan leather good for skin???? I'm from India

[@suemassey4453]

The skins from animals used for food are NOT used for leather. The animals used for leather are killed just for the leather. In some cases the flesh may be used to feed other animals that are consumed. Thanks for info on the few companies trying to do better.

[@blargkliggle1121]

That's ridiculous, the hides get sold to leather workers, every part of the cow gets made into something. Pituitary glands are sold to pharmaceutical companies, the blood gets turned into a kind of fertilizer, the moo goes into those little desk toys, no waste at all.

[@blue_brie]

This is just inaccurate. Do some research. Why would they waste something when they could profit off of it? Think about it

[@Hattonbank]

Rubbish, go to an abattoir and see for yourself, the most valuable part of the animal is the near, worth 40 times as much as the hide

[@WeiFinder]

If we have plant-based or synthetic leathers that can be fully recycled, then "even if" the process to get it is dirty, at some point it becomes a renewable resource. No?

[@alexf6206]

I was hoping for a video about the properties of the two materials. Instead this...

[@gnar-ninja]

what about a third option: recycled polyurethane + recycled PET (plastic bottles) + recycled polyurethane to make sythetic leather? a demand for this would do more "cleanup" of current petroleum-based materials as well as avoid using leather from meat byproducts... what do you guys think?

[@gnar-ninja]

there are also options such as recycled PVB (made from old junk windshields) to make faux leather... lots of recycled options out there to make sythetic leather, with more than 80% recycled material composition

[@bobsmith4574]

I mainly wear Kathmandu clothes which are made from recycle drink bottles.

[@samanthakim1975]

I always thought the leather was from the animals killed for the food industry. I thought there was no problem because it was better to create a long lasting garment than just throwing that leather away. I'm feeling so bad, I'm so sorry

[@mayartist4315]

I’m so sorry, I feel like that could be an easy misconception and it would be really nice if that were the case! I found out some shocking truths about this recently too so I know how you feel🥺😖❤️

[@Hattonbank]

@@mayartist4315 What are you talking about. Cattle are reared for beef and to a lesser degree for dairy products. Steers reared for beef fetch $1500- $2000 a head at the market which when processed into meat cuts fetches up to $3000. The hide is sold to tanneries for abour $50-70 per hide, so you see it it only used if the animal goes to slaughter for beef. No beef consumption. no leather. During early covid, no cars/furniture etc were being built but we continued to eat beef, the result was 100,000's of hides rotting away in landfill. Just about every tannery in western countries has strict water pollution controls each having water treatment plants to return water in the same way they received it. Don't ask me about the Third World including China, maybe not so good there. Yes cattle belch and fart, but you need trucks, tractors, combones, balers, seed drills, etc to grow wheat/corn etc, they pollute the air too! Most areas where cattle are bred are unsuitable for crops as soil is poor with low rainfall, think of the high plains of Montana/Wyoming/Texas/Colorado and Australia/South Africa, that land is not good for much else. As for car companies selling Vegan leather, it is all produced using oil as the base product, whether it is a PVC/PU product, or a woven fabric. PR baloney!

[@tellmey1]

only vegetable tanned leather will decompose. chrome tanned leather will not, which is majority of all leathers out there

[@arisps17]

What do you think about Will’s Vegan Store? It says their products are carbon neutral but they still say they use PU

[@Masterofswtor]

They might be doing something called "CO2 compensation". This essentially means planting trees or other plants that capture CO2 through their photosynthesis and store it in their bodies until they die and decompose. This could technically cancel out the CO2 emitted during their production, but isn't sustainable in the long run since you'll constantly have to plant more and more trees and you'll eventually run out of room, especially if more companies start doing the same thing.

[@juanramirezgonzalez2213]

I might buy some boot from them

[@dianeharrison4975]

Really annoys me when they say genuine synthetic leather..It's plastic!

[@Boo-pb4cn]

You're stressing too much like leather manufacturing is that bad. The fabrics your wearing uses a lot of water & chemical to manufacture. Try wearing a untreated cotton fabric. You'll look like a pineapple after wearing it. As for vegan leather, you are right on that point, there is plastic on it. No matter what kind vegan stuff u want to use (cactus?).. Boiled lettuce will not have the tensile strength for fabrication. You need plastic as reinforcement. 😅 Best way to protect the environment... Wear your birthday suit

[@Barbara-lw7lh]

Thanks for the good summary

[@longtranthanh8544]

I’m saving money to switch my cow-hide leather wallet to a Cordura 500D one.

[@tarikmounih3559]

Wassup Moxies 😆 hell creative yeah

[@Kimandy6862]

Didn’t your teacher tell you that you can’t use Wikipedia as a source???

[@moxiegent7983]

Dude im old. Wiki wasnt't around when I went to school. :)

[@starandfox601]

Wikipedia is decent source for general information.you can often even check out their sites sources.

[@mymathmind]

Most vegan leather is not PVC anymore ... it is mostly PU I think. They are not the same thing. Also, there is a variety of vegan leathers...

[@mymathmind]

Also a lot of companies use recycled plastic.

[@hyperactivetendencies7054]

No one wants to hear this. It doesn't cater to the "vegan bad" image America wants you to believe about Veganism.

[@philipwoodgate9555]

I always go real leather, remember leather is a by product of the meat industry, but I use that product until it is falling apart. I buy leather boots, belts, caps and bumbags. They outlast everything else so I tend to disagree they do not last as long.

[@drewid1351]

Well done a fair and reasonable approach.

[@fighterarya]

Use leather made by cactus.

[@usmcwelder2004]

Yeah... I'm 100% against animal cruelty... I'd rather use vegan leather made NOT out of polyurethane, but out of actual vegan materials like pineapple or other fruit rinds.

[@eriklarson4082]

7.7 billion people farting all day around the globe, no problem. Cow farts "a leading cause of global warming". Makes sense.

[@sophievigneault7820]

Pleather doesn't last. You wear it a few times and it's destroyed. Real leather can last a lifetime. LEATHER all the way for me. And second hand leather is fist on my list.

[@mdammad9837]

Leather is a natural by-product of the meat industry. Leather good manufacturers are the reason the hides of various animals are not piled into huge waste which would be burned and effect the environment. We create beautiful products with hides - which makes the leather products sustainable. In the process we help in circular fashion. On the other hand "Vegan Leather" is actually plastic which will never be as sustainable as Genuine Leather. Using PU and calling it Vegan Leather just effects the image of Genuine Leather Products. There is no such thing as "Vegan Leather".

[@CLos93.]

Looked up cus I was about to get a free bad for my laptop made of vegan leather and i was like ok what’s that and boom now idk if I want it lol

[@mayartist4315]

I know how you feel😖😰❤️ I found out some shocking and disturbing truths about the leather industry recently and I’m ready to never wear and expensive leather item I bought ever again!😭

[@zeenkosis]

My qualm is being charged the same for fake leather as real leather. Leather shoes last way longer and wear better. So that way it works out better in the long term. Also the feet stink. In SA we do have local tanneries where you can get skin for cows that have already been slaughtered and use that as material. I think we should rather just create a material that may not be leather but can decompose. That would be cool. But for now try your best 🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️

[@claudinesjourney1]

Thanks for the video, I have always purchase leather, but noticed the change in pleather being used more. I

[@squiddysquad9568]

Idk why you say leather when it is cutted of skin from an animal

[@avelasbellas]

This is great! There's so much hype on Vegan Leather

[@ankaarandjelovic4670]

Meat from the leather industry is mostly not used for consumption.

[@starandfox601]

Meat from the leather industry is used for consumption. The flow is slaughtered,hide is used for leather,the muscles for meat,the bones are used for bone meal,guts are used for animal food,the hooves are used for dog chews.nothing goes to waste when a cow is sluaghtered.every last bit of the cow that can be used is used.

[@saifuddinahmedsadi2306]

Pineapple fiber have to use some chemical

[@homephone3805]

the adders are: fermented plant starch (it's corn based and used as a substitute for plastic); resin (like paint); and a non-volatile, emission-free, mekoximine-free PU solid.

[@ashwinisingh9180]

Sir is slaughtering is done for leather or meat, according to my knowledge leather is byproduct of meat industry

[@IlseVerbruggen]

Its not necessarily a byproduct, the meat consumption is lower than the amount of leather that has to be used for production. A few months ago (I'm not sure where i got this information) i was informed that a lot of cows are slaughtered for just it's leather without using its meat because it would increase financial costs somehow. Feel free to check what I'm saying because I'm not entirely sure!

[@pukar1997]

My brother, real leather is not a byproduct of meat industry. To make real leather, companies kill animals directly. Some companies skined animals alive so, Don't support animal cruelty. Go vegan

[@ashwinisingh9180]

Pukar chapagain vegan leather is plastics is non biodegradable, causes skin problem to your body as vegan(Chinese) leather does not have breath ability capacity.At some places leather manufacturing processes causes little more pollution than fabrics but when it comes about maintaining fabric requires lots of water detergents,electricity and many other thing although what does leather asks for. At the end I wanna inform you that “fashion industry is second most polluted industry in the world.

[@heatherlynn4652]

@@ashwinisingh9180 the last thing this planet needs is more plastic. Vegan fabrics are crap

[@kingotonkuturui6656]

Vegan leather is biodegradable if made from cactus.

[@davidaguilarg.7093]

Ill just use real lether

[@cassandralesh8536]

With all the stuff being made from bamboo is going to cause deforestation of bamboo forests

[@juancarrasco1788]

Wrong info on the vegan leather ...

[@mathandsciencereboot2662]

Being an environmentalist and being a fashionista is like oil and water. If you are really into environmental protection and preservation, don't be into fashion as it is all about trendy. And that is consumption, that means buying things even when you don't need it.

[@starandfox601]

Unless you are buying old things from the thrift shop.

[@pavelvasilache6111]

Vegan leather shouldn't be called leather because it is not leather its plastic as you said. Making leather isn't friendly for the environment , the animal's arent raised for leather, they are raised for meat, half of the leather is thrown out ( half of the untanned skins ) so the cruelty is for the meat, to not use the leather would mean throwing a big part of the animal and that is really shitty.

[@theaansel8738]

Very informative thanks, more sustainability now!

[@ShiyanAkalankaJayanath]

Inadequate research.

[@dianeharrison4975]

I wear leather jacket and shoes,,thers no way I can do a shift at work(when we re allowed back!) With plastic shoes,, tried it once never again i couldn't walk, feet killed me,plastic makes you have sweaty smelly feet i just dont get the thing of plastic sorry vegan leather🤣🤣

[@squiddysquad9568]

Be more sry for the animals who got killed

[@mayartist4315]

Watch THE CRULTY BEHIND OUR CLOTHING- LEATHER it’s very graphic though so beware; tbh I was sort of scarred but it made me never want to buy or even wear leather that I have ever again😭 Trust me, don’t hurt your feet but those animals hurt a million times more than that😰

[@99.YamanKumar]

Please don't kill animals for make leather and your stomach as well. It is a request 🙏

[@juanramirezgonzalez2213]

Isn't Pleather just like acrylic vinyl over convas

[@moxiegent7983]

Its basically plastic made into a synthetic fabric.

[@NoirHammer]

What about "nopal cactus" leather which is made by Desserto? After this superficial review and knowing that pineapple leather is available, you'd still reccommend real leather when your message is about the environment? Scratching my head on that one. Dig deeper and come out with a part two.

[@mCblue79]

I can go to Wikipedia myself. Thanks

[@mrmarvin1995721]

PVC is recyclable. We just have to make sure that we buy vegan leather that are made by recycled PVC.

[@Hattonbank]

So you are saying that vegan leather is pvc. That’s made from oil, a polluting non renewable industry

[@ChaosBW]

Hey, do you remember hearing about the vegan motorcycle racer who won recently? You've never even heard of a vegan motorcycle racer? Have you ever seen a vegan leather MotoGP race suit? No? Hmmmmmm. Makes you think? No? You don't know how to think? Well then. The reason is because there isn't a single non leather alternative as flexible, lightweight, and abrasion resistant as leather. You can make it waterproof, or perforate it for summer, and it would still be stronger. Maybe one day scientists will develop a synthetic leather which is close to or possibly even better than the real thing. On top of that: plastic is not food and is therefore not required to inform you if it is manufactured using animal products In fact, unless you're tires are labeled vegan, you can guarantee they're not Same goes for any plastic

[@vadimdon]

Vegan shit is no leather by default. Use other names for it

[@noodletitan9086]

nice made video

[@toyotafortuner250]

Vegan leather is better then real leather

[@ryokukagirinai]

they both hurt the environment anyway, so buy real leather for a better quality product. got it, thanks!

[@dragade101]

hahahahhaaahh. you are quoting wikipedia? why.

[@blargkliggle1121]

Wikipedia is generally a good place to get a basic overview of a subject, he's not making a research project...

[@dragade101]

@@blargkliggle1121 yes but when he only quotes wikipedia like this. I'd rather just read it myself.....

[@user-ex3ui9kw4f]

Trends over Animal lives.

[@abhays2601]

Its good than killing animals

[@dominator35000]

Plastic is not vegan

[@ChrisJBlack972]

Genuine BLACK LEATHER rules! I love to wear them! I am all for it! Don't give a shit about what others say about my favorite clothing. I love it! MoxieGent wears it, too!

[@ChrisJBlack972]

@Rob Harman Hey, it just ain't me! Many guys out there wear BLACK LEATHERS, just like me! We love that style!

[@naomiishii7255]

Make your own vegan leather from plants ,dumm dumm

[@moxiegent7983]

OMG you have solved the worlds leather problem in one sentence. Lets all make our own vegan leather from plants. You my friend are a genius 🤣

[@dianeharrison4975]

I can't wear plastic shoes they kill my feet,make them sweat

[@ReiGon-k4r]

Don't call leather.. Something that is not leather.. "vegan leather" or faux leather it's just a bunch of plastic.. You wear those crappy shoes in south Florida and your feet will be humid, cooking and smelly 😂

[@e4300]

Why don't you turn the music off so someone or anyone who watches this video can get a clear understanding of your words. It's like having a meeting in the middle of a rock concert. And you using the words Vegan Leather along with everyone else is/are part of the problem that misleads consumers. If it's Real Leather then call it "Leather" If it's Plastic then call it "Plastic" but using words with the word Leather actually makes the public think they are getting Real Leather, Just by using the word Leather. Call it Plastic if that's what it is.

[@Hester741]

there are glycol base vegan leather which is derived from vegetable oils. i suggest you should do an extensive research as not to give a miss information and biased outlook. yea! people there are lots of derivatives which companies used as a plasticizers...

[@warthog_3433]

Avoid leather alltogether

[@sunflower3572]

Please get informed! Nowadays there are so many more options than PVC- Really. You’re way behind. Search for videos on vegan leather and you’ll find great information about the different options that different brands are using. Many vegan leather items come from pineapple, apples, and mushrooms. They’re coming up with better options every day. Think for yourselves. Look into it!

[@karlwesneski7593]

Go with real leather? No. Go with neither. Foolish.

[@karlwesneski7593]

@Stu 95s because it supports a gross tradition of oppressing animals

[@karlwesneski7593]

@Stu 95s you’re paying for animals to be harmed when you buy those products , that’s where the harm is. They are electrocuted alive for fur and murdered for their leather aka skin. You have freedom to buy but at the cost of them not having freedom. There are better brands to buy from. Choose good 💙

[@mayartist4315]

Karl Wesneski THANK YOU! We as humans have so many options we don’t NEED either!

[@mayartist4315]

@Stu 95s I loved my real leather stuff too, that was before I knew that “the harm in that” was was all in how the animals were treated when they going to be made into that stuff. Watch THE CRULTY BEHIND OUR CLOTHING- LEATHER it’s very graphic though so beware; tbh I was sort of scarred but it made me never want to buy or even wear leather that I have ever again😭 and if you can watch this and still feel fine about wearing your goose jacket than... I can’t comment

[@mayartist4315]

@Stu 95s wow ok, I mean I’m not judging you for still wearing your stuff cuz honestly I’ll probably end up wearing mine after a while and I paid a lot of money for them, but all that we can do is think about what we buy from now on and stay educated. That video may not have bothered you (which honestly I can’t believe) but it definitely influenced me and was definitely an education regardless

[@whosaidthat4299]

I will buy 2nd hand real leather goods,and go classic.

[@sunflower3572]

Please get informed! Nowadays there are so many more options than PVC- Really. You’re way behind. Search for videos on vegan leather and you’ll find great information about the different options that different brands are using. Many vegan leather items come from pineapple, apples, and mushrooms. They’re coming up with better options every day. Think for yourselves. Look into it!

[@moxiegent7983]

post the brands instead of hating...what Brands do you recommend?

[@sunflower3572]

MoxieGent, Don’t be lazy, search and learn like I did. Plenty of videos here on KZbin on vegan leather. Thanks for reading my comment.