Trying Avanti West Coast FIRST CLASS (Refurbished vs Unrefurbished)

Today's video is a bit different to my usual video! Today, I compare Avanti West Coasts first class! More specifically I compare an unrefrubished first class coach with a refurbished first class coach! It's like two journey reviews for the price of one!
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Film Date: 29/12/2023 (Unrefurbished) 05/01/2024 (Refurbished)

[@LBG252_TheEastLondonBusGuy]

The Refurbished Pendolino Is Better Than The Unrefurbished Pendolino.

[@user-qu7mx2ys6e]

Well edited video. I assume it is pot luck if you will get a refurbished first class coach or is there a way to determine this ? ( Like prime routes)?

[@777Trains]

It's actually more difficult to get the old one now, they are being refurbished fast, you might be able to find online a list of those refurbished, realtimetrains will tell you which train is running on each service.

[@michaeljohndennis2231]

Especially when coming up from the Metrolink platforms from Shudehill and Market St/Piccadilly Gardens, getting tickets and information for SailRail (paper tickets only) at Manchester Piccadilly is a nightmare, even worse is platforms 13 & 14 at Manchester Piccadilly to Holyhead via Chester, Crewe or Lladnuo on Transport for Wales - the planners have zero common sense here and it would be way better to operate SailRail services from Manchester Victoria, preferably more direct services to Holyhead

[@sandletters39]

I never see the point in refurbishment.

[@777Trains]

They were mainly refurbished for 2 reasons: a) Quality of life upgrade: They needed the trains to last for many years to come, so an upgrade inside keeps the train from feeling old and dated. b) The interior is still the same from Virgin Trains, so I would assume Avanti would want to put their own colours and branding through a refurbishment programme!

[@sandletters39]

@777Trains I ridden one, but they are disappointing for a number of reasons, particularly with the seating arrangement.

[@michaeljohndennis2231]

@@777Trainsif these Avanti trains were used for direct services from Manchester Piccadilly to Holyhead without using platforms 13 & 14, they would be way better than TfW tiny and packed trains via Chester, Crewe or Lladnuo - even Northern Rail’s larger trains from Manchester Victoria to Chester is way better than TfW’s sardine can trains