Trying Cheap 35mm Film Stocks

In this video Joe Greer and I try out some of the budget 35mm film stocks that are available to see if they are worth using.
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[@DavidChurcheese]

From 2022, hearing that Gold 200 cost 3$ feels like a bullet through the heart.

[@sopankahbegituh]

Mine was $12

[@13has]

Remember when $3 film was $3? :(

[@DavidChurcheese]

@@13has I'm not old enough

[@kristjand5620]

was just about to comment the same, after buying those same films for like 9€

[@xypaisb8026]

Mine was 15$

[@wingding7955]

What happens when a photographer doesn’t use lofi hip hop in a video

[@dakmandotcom6682]

The images just look like the garbage they are.............

[@hotdogs5265]

I know. I can't take it anymore. They all do it.

[@slr7075]

Death by their overindulged Starbucks latte.

[@shashankshekhar3791]

lmao I wasn't prepared for this amount of savagery

[@emilyching]

the world may never know...

[@theharveydean]

lol cheap if you live in the states. It's $11 a roll for either of those here in NZ.

[@WillemVerb]

😳😳😳

[@theharveydean]

@@WillemVerb portra is like $16 a roll here man. It huuuuurts. #brokebois hahaha

[@fabapapa9926]

In Germany Kodak Gold is 7,99€ (8,89$) for 3 rolls👌

[@theharveydean]

Faba Papa dude hooooowwww. I’d be shooting way more film if that’s what it cost here 😭😭

[@sebastianm8369]

14 $ in Poland for portra 400...

[@Boswd]

Wow just 2 years ago and the gold 200 was only $3. Insane how expensive it's gotten in such a short time

[@joaotomas8906]

In new to the film scene. Why did the price skyrocket?

[@Boswd]

@@joaotomas8906 demand and production shortage. Film just blew up during the pandemic.

[@RamonIsHim]

@@joaotomas8906Im new too, but my guess is so many people started buying them for $3 that Kodak raised the price

[@SomeUnremarkableGuy]

@@joaotomas8906 high demand. not enough employees apparently.

[@gregorypetzer3707]

When they say it’s “cheap”but meanwhile it’s all I can afford 😒

[@TheCoco151]

Sometime I think it better then pro film

[@mrtrailesafety]

Years ago I shot with Kodak 5760 Cine stock. I was broke AF. Yes, it was Hollywood. Quality varied. The slides decayed but the negs stayed constant.

[@yescovenant452]

Gregory Petzer photography is incredibly expensive

[@diego992371]

Damn, same bro

[@Cotystevens]

Same here buddy, but all I'm using is a cheap point and shoot kodak so I'm not needing expensive stuff. I just use it for a hobby and gonna do Instagram shots with it.

[@filmsandroses]

It’s 2022 I’m watching this for the first time. feeling the tears drop from my eyes listening to you speak about how cheap Portra 400 is.. sigh 😢 Lmaoo I have to jump through hoops to find porta 400 at less than $25 a roll 😂😂

[@SolisCreative]

just bought kodak gold for like $12/roll welp

[@fkdyr]

was gonna type the same thing wtf

[@bennobeinstein8505]

gea wtf is up sith that huh? T-T

[@bennobeinstein8505]

More like, wtf was up with my spelling lol

[@filmsandroses]

@@bennobeinstein8505 lmaooooooo

[@danielbarrientos4529]

Joe “your three photos is better then all 33 of mine” Willem “yea probably true” 🤣🤣🤣

[@lucaswiman8945]

willem i swear if the price of kodak gold comes up bc of u ima be salty. gold is the truth. i swear by it. love the photos dawg

[@mateusalves9436]

Kodak is raising the price of all filmstocks first thing next year, stock up while its cheap.

[@carterbliss8109]

@@mateusalves9436 Gold is all im bout shoot on 35mm after the price rise haha maybe some 800 on occasion

[@ohcav]

facts, when it comes to color, Gold is p much all I shoot

[@FIstof7LEGEND]

It costs a fucking lot one year later

[@lucaswiman8945]

@@FIstof7LEGEND smh you’re right

[@serge933]

$15-$17 for color plus these days, Gold is up there too. I was lucky to shoot film during that time when it was cheaper, took a break and came back to the hobby and the prices have gone through the roof. Its insane.

[@Fairychild432]

I want that picture of Willem sitting in the leaves. Signed by Willem. Also loving the single tree with the yellow leaves shot by Willem.

[@WillemVerb]

Thank you 😭✨

[@Fairychild432]

@@WillemVerb For real though. Lemme get a signed print of it. Or anything signed by you. 🤩😍

[@christianpaul6893]

I shot a combined 31 rolls of both of these films over summer, and I found colorplus to be really warm with a yellow cast, but amazing saturation. Gold was a little more neutral, can accentuate both warm or cool tones, gold is my go to consumer stock.

[@dustinroemer5180]

One film that I think gets overlooked a lot is Fujicolor Superia Xtra 400. It's cheap, easy to find, has some of the best exposure latitudes, and pushes extremely well. I also think it's one of the most vibrant films, midtones have a nice pop to them. I love it for capturing landscapes and big scenes. It does have some drawbacks though. Yellows aren't as balanced, which can give a more cyan or magenta hue to a photo (which doesn't flatter skin tones). It also doesn't do as well capturing extremely dark tones. This means it looks its worst when doing portrait photography in low light or harsh shadows and the subject doesn't have clear alabaster skin.

[@yescovenant452]

Dustin Roemer what does “push” and “pull” mean?

[@dustinroemer5180]

@@yescovenant452 "Pushing" is shooting the film at higher ISO than it's rated for (e.g shooting at 800 ISO with with 400 ISO film) then developing it longer so it comes out at the proper exposure. "Pulling" is the opposite. These practices do have side-effects on the quality of the final image. Most of the time these practices are used out of necessity, but sometimes, people willingly push or pull film to take advantage of the side-effects to achieve a certain aesthetic.

[@tas11117]

Agreed, I shoot on superia xtra mostly. It handles over exposure really well which can compensate for the issues you mentioned with portraiture

[@RK-rf8rc]

Superia Xtra is not cheap in Germany where I live. It's almost as expensive as Portra. For cheap I highly recommend Fujicolor C200 or the slightly more expensive Kodak Pro Image 100. Used Kodak Gold recently and didn't like it very much at all

[@logangleason1141]

it's just different than the other cheap ones not necessarily better but the good thing is u can actually just get these in a cvs

[@emailsare4losers]

Great video! The warmer colors worked perfectly for the late fall vibe. My favorites were Joe's shot of the red tree reflection under the bridge and your shot of the orange tree at the end of the path down the hill. Also, oatmeal raisin totally has its place, especially on a cold fall day!

[@WillemVerb]

Oatmeal raisin all day 😤

[@ubaldoespinoza7046]

As someone always shooting on a budget, I love videos like this. Keep up the good work, keep film alive!

[@toonman361]

Willem, I'm happy to say you've revived my interest in shooting film. I saw a video on shooting black and white and then saw your video on the developing monobath kit and I was (re) hooked! That being said, I've always had a preference for the more saturated cool colors of Fuji film. I recall reading an issue of Popular Photography in 1983 on the cast of Kodak vs Fuji film. I decided to try the Fuji and never went back. I've tried the Kodak color negative and transparency film in the past and always defaulted to Fuji. Even now that I am living in the shadow of Kodak in Rochester, I (timedly) admit to liking Fuji better. I am however, so happy Kodak is making a variety of films these days. Thanks for sharing!

[@sammmiii13]

You and Joe are two of my favourite photographers! No pretentiousness here, which I see so often in the photography community, just two dudes enjoying the beauty of creating some art!

[@KodakBoy]

Sam i Can agree with this I see lots of photogs think they are Gods lol I always appreciate cool people who happen to photographers

[@shannonpalmer]

I agree, these two are really great photographers. Joe has become my favorite photographer on KZbin. He has a a really natural talent.

[@IlfStoyanov]

The ColorPlus is my go to film when I have to test either a lens or a body. Having in mind how often I thinker with my lenses, or get a new one that I have to CLA or adjust my Kiev4s for the umpteenth time, I shoot ColorPlus a lot. I learned that I have to overexpose it 1-2 stops and it's a nice emulsion, warm, with some nice color shifts to the yellow when overexposed and to the green when underexposed. The Gold, however is a film I love. What Joe said was true for me, too, again, I either shoot it at @100 or even @64, always in a SLR. The thing I love the most about the Gold is how easy it is to scan. It's really fine grain, it's just unbeatable at this price point.

[@afterthelasttime]

Those warm tones come through really well.

[@IWriteDrama]

Found your channel and watched through some of your videos. You've inspired me to try my hand at film photography. Ordered a Canon AE-1 Chrome with the FD 50mm 1.8 to learn on. Thanks for your great tips and advice and looking forward to more!

[@HenkiLOVE]

Legendaryyyyy video !! Ughhh, so much life and enjoyment in your vibes ☺️ this video really helped!

[@rickyzayas1085]

So hype, just got my canon ae1 program yesterday and im so excited to shoot, you're definitely are someone i look up to.

[@WillemVerb]

Hypppe!!!

[@rickyzayas1085]

Willem Verbeeck super!!! Can’t wait to see what I can come up with, also you should come to Florida!!

[@KodakBoy]

Ricky Zayas glad to hear you are shooting film! The ae-1 program is a great camera I hope you enjoy it 📷👍

[@bosphaxay7109]

Have the A1 but shot on film that went through the X-Ray scanner, they dont look nice

[@Sikky654]

What you mean program? (sorry I don't know)

[@metalfingersfilm]

>willem verbeeck >joe greer > 35mm >"cheap" instant click.

[@rironald3]

I’ve shot both film stocks before and I loved the warm tones. Amazing photos from both of you guys! Film bros back at it again with the fire video! 🔥🤙🏻

[@lancesmith6386]

The shots looks great. I love the warm tones it gives off!

[@danielespondajr457]

Had a timer set for this. Thank you for ur knowledge

[@WillemVerb]

Thank you for your timer

[@rachmanfachri]

It costs me $6 here in Indonesia, and the price just went up to $9-$10 after high demand due to lack of supply for ColorPlus and C200 which are in the same price range. And those are the only film that I could afford :')

[@alicetran5574]

Where i live its 15$ for a Kodak gold 😭😭

[@rileyrussill]

great content from the film broooos haha. so many warm heaters of the beautiful autumn foliage in NYC. good stuff guys.

[@radugheorghe2596]

Loving the vibes Willem, see you in the city 👏🏻

[@cccccccccc512hello]

Willem, you’re a cool Banana! Hello from Germany, and keep rocking that 35mm! Love watching your videos and seeing your work progress over time. P.S I got inspired by you to start with Film and so I recently got myself a Minolta XD7.

[@mmh53]

Nyc looks epic in these fall colors! Definitely need to try those stocks, especially now with all the rumors of kodak‘s price increase in 2020 :/

[@worfbe]

Nice to see you could enjoy some beautiful fall days with that fantastic color palet. Good you're not in .be because the weathers like sh*t over here. You both got some real nice pictures with those "cheap" stocks. I've only been in the park once, but I remember the 'rock' and the splendid view. Thx for the little enjoyable flashback. Grtz from home !

[@rrrayanaaa]

ur voice is so soothing i love watching ur photography videos thank you

[@colejensen6397]

I. Love. You. Guys. Together. The energy is so inspiring. I actually bought Kodak Gold as my first roll EVER, but I'm now realizing I did not shoot it right. On my way to buy more right now. Keep up the good work willem

[@arthurvandamme718]

autumn in USA lasts like 3 months, those tree colors damn!!! Belgium has 3 autumn days, all leave gone in a winds breath.

[@lisavandevoorde1071]

HAHAHAHAHAH DAS ZO WAAR en meestal regent het dan

[@arthurvandamme718]

@Bobby Brady thanks!! Will add these areas on my travel list

[@kisumirri3266]

in Finland we have a month. But I live in Belgium I think it’s a week in Belgium

[@FilmPhotographyChannel]

Love the photo of the bridge; really well done!

[@FabrizioZago]

Autumn colours in Central Park are really cool, great works capturing them. I like the look of those film stock.

[@AlejoStorni]

The warm tones are insane. About to head over to my camera store and buy some Gold

[@braystaylor]

I literally just loaded up on a bunch of colour plus for my mju-ii’s haha! Super underrated film for everyday stuff. Nice video homie!

[@TheMistermike87]

Bray Taylor it’s definitely not underrated. It has jumped $15 in price in the last year. Oh and If you don’t want it to look really yellow and warm like these pics, make sure to over expose by at least 2 stops.

[@braystaylor]

@@TheMistermike87 Colour Plus 200 is $6.00 AUD from my local film lab homie, one of the cheapest options for us compared to $13/16 AUD for Portra options. I don't mind the warm stuff though I am a little biased as I'm doing a personal project that I specifically want warm tones throughout, otherwise I'd most likely choose to shoot Portra anyway.

[@chloepeedherpants]

Loved this vid, was so fun to watch

[@BryantFC]

Really happy Joe started snapping with the 35 1.4 voigtlander. Don't see much reviews on it online with good photo content so it was nice seeing it here! I love mine but I have it paired on my Sony A7.

[@meengah]

So really curious do they still edit the pictures and do they get it digitised or do it theirselfs? get them developed and then digitsed? really curious how the process goes love thi great work!

[@jpmumbly]

Unbeatable friend’s atmosphere as usual. Did you expose the film at 100 or 200?

[@TyRonKitzeRow]

I wanted to ask the same question. Just now came across their video

[@bobselektor]

@@TyRonKitzeRow Joe shot it at 100

[@GreatestWarrior2049]

Can’t wait to go home and watch this vid. Thanks for inspiring me to try to shoot film!

[@haaletu]

First film I ever shot was Gold400, second film I ever shot was ColorPlus200. I like your chemistry and how you are just hitting it every shot. Thank you for the videos

[@radicaleyemag]

Wednesday's the new Sunday.

[@WillemVerb]

The truth

[@andrealie6186]

This makes me want to shoot film so much more!

[@StephenMilner]

Hey, what an awesome video. Keep up the amazing work! I look forward to your next video.

[@islandbyfilm]

Great video man! Loved it

[@soundchecked123]

This has been a long time coming Colorplus for the win

[@alejandrochavarria7096]

I always saw these cheap stocks as poor mans ektar. I love Kodak Gold, I'd take it over superia any day.

[@seanc5718]

Agreed, I shot superia early on because it was so cheap, but it made every person's skin look like they just finished a marathon. It has wonky ass skin tones.

[@TheMistermike87]

What in the world are you guys talking about lol

[@alejandrochavarria7096]

@@seanc5718 maybe it was how I exposed superia, but at box speed it made everyone look green! Underexposed shadows were green instead of black. Blech. I recently read an article that said the best way to shoot superia is two stops over exposed with results similar to portra in terms of softness. Idunno how true that is but anything is better than green skin when people should be bronze.

[@arselamallick3248]

Love this video. I am just starting out with film photography and im also in nyc :) where did you guys get the cheap $3 kodak gold? I've been looking for a cheap one in nyc. Thank you :) Love the shots yall both took ugh especially that one joe took in the beginning of the reflection of the mirror and the one of the motorcycle

[@renatogarciarodriguesgil1107]

Hey Will, I love your work! I also have a Canon a1 and I`m still figuring it out. I am not quite sure how to use the light meter on this camera. I only figured that when you have it on Automatic, the meter will suggest/show you the numbers for Aperture and Shutter Speed it is using. (I can also use it on Aperture or Shutter Speed priority where it will choose for me the opposite from what I`ve chosen).However, If you are set to Manual, how can you use the light meter, would you set on Automatic mode to `get an idea` of what you need and then switch to manual and adjust it yourself, or you just assume what to use due to your experience? thanks a million bro, keep up with the awesome work!!

[@berkleynisson9654]

this video was so beautiful yet so sad coming from 2023 when kodak gold is easily $13+. I absolutely adored those photos though. as always wilem is making stunning photos

[@maksymilianreiter3111]

also, autumn is the best season for these stocks' colour profiles I think

[@sinchifilm]

Vibing with the tracks you added! 👌

[@freequest]

I used to shoot a lot with Kodak Gold 400 when I could get it loved how nice the colours looked.

[@NJdaniels96]

Oatmeal raisin is the most underappreciated cookie. The thinking man's cookie, if you will. A true cookie of culture.

[@putranugraha7875]

best budget film stocks would be kodak ultramax 400 for me 🙌🏼

[@ColinBloodworth]

Some really good shots in this. You guys really lucked out on the lighting in those. Really accentuated the film stocks. Kodak Gold is underused imo where Ultramax gets a lot of love. The grain of Gold is more predictable but I don't think it has as much latitude as Ultramax which stands up surprisingly well to a +1 push, especially for landscapes. They both have their uses, I suppose. And like anything with film stocks, a ton has to do with personal preference.

[@veins9128]

Hi I'm new to this channel and I absolutely love the videos you make. I was wondering the photographs you show us in in the video are they in any form edited in post. Or did the color and everything look like that when it was developed. Either way looks amazing

[@MrISoFr3sh]

Color plus 200 is a god tier film stock

[@infernocaptures8739]

Right!!

[@maciejjanko114]

Well I almost excusevly use these films, or some other cheap fujicolor c200 bc it's hard to get other brand in Poland. Love them because of taht warm, a bit sunbleached look they give to the photos. Paired with my Prakticas (PLC3 and MTL3- aged 1969 and 1970) it gives the greatest aesthetic feel to the photos from trips with friends or from weddings. From time to time I like to buy ILFORD b/w films, they';re nice too.

[@suavebere9026]

kodak gold 200 is so versatile and the colors always turn out great!! it's my go-to for casual photography

[@valentinaribo8292]

your videos are such an inspiration ♥️

[@ryanmoorman7799]

colorplus 200 is my go-to film. you simply can't go wrong.

[@gl3110]

Oatmeal raisin are objectively the best kind of cookie.

[@fyzd3r]

Great vid Willem! If I may, it would’ve been great to know which shot were Gold and which were Color plus. From what I tend to see Color plus seems to have a closer look to portra than gold. That said both were looking great!

[@kyrellfly]

Love the golden hues on these! ❤️

[@simplyReed]

@7:02 dude what are u doing to these shadows?

[@lamanhnguyen6462]

Wait, could someone tell me what the ISO setting he really used ? yah i heard something about 64 and 100 but 200. If what i really heard was rite, then, it had necessary to overexpose 1 and 1.1/2 stops ?

[@dhianatasha7017]

bro the photos turned out good. great job my guy

[@Mulnader]

I like how Joe uses his both eyes, simultaneously adjusting something in camera and checking what is going on around the frame. I have impression that Joe's photos are kinda more clear or sharp. Like it's more obvious where focus is. Is it because of Leica optics or it's placebo got in my eyes?

[@attiendzombane]

colorplus is literally the only stock i use

[@adamk3591]

calling it now channels going to slowly transition to a food review after that tremendous analysis of the cookie

[@1247marianna]

gosh I am in love with your photos! No comparison no pain..

[@chrismccartney8668]

Superb colours in pictures over lake woods and buildings behind..

[@lefan-tan]

Just started film photography here, how do you achieve the reddish warm and saturated tone during the first 2 minutes in your pictures? I think it looks really nice and im trying to recreate that

[@groovydiphenhydramine9707]

I don't know too much but it's probably to do with the film and lighting

[@dansomerville]

Over exposing it and the instructions they give their lab for their ‘look’ when it’s scanned. Both have a very airy and bright look with a warmer white balance

[@josephportelli3080]

Thanks cheap 35mm film stocks daddy 🔥

[@miguelbrian9967]

Love the photos you guys took. I just finished my 1st roll of kodak gold and they do have saturadet yellows.

[@isaacselling1123]

It’s so nice seeing this last little bit of normal world pre-pandemic stuff in nyc. Love your content man.

[@relievedplant7149]

Lol watching this deep into 2021 when even the “cheap film” has become way more expensive. Wish it was $3!!!

[@stuarthirsch]

Great photos, got a few questions. First why do you favor color film over digital? Where do you get the film processed that they give you just the negatives and how much does it cost to process and return just the negatives? Do you print on photo paper using the enlarger or scan the negatives and print on an inkjet printer? Do you ever print the color negatives into B&W using the using B&W photo paper and an enlarger? If so what paper do you use, how do you expose from the enlarger, and what are your results?

[@TheAlonsorh]

Siempre es un buen día cuando Willem sube un nuevo vídeo, greetings from Cancún, México.

[@spid3rgwen415]

Wow I need this camera! Gorgeous work!

[@michaelhall3718]

Have film prices really risen this much? B and H now has Kodak gold for $11

[@lavamonsta86]

Hey Willem, this may be a silly question, but how much ‘post’ has been applied to yours and Joe’s shots shown in this video?

[@snafuet]

It's not silly. Photo looks also depend on how he developed and scanned it. You may easily buy the same film and not get the result...

[@lillionaire]

@@snafuet true, i shoot with kodak color plus and mines are 1. not this bright and saturated and 2. the place where i get my films scanned does a shitty job and they do just too much grain and little particles can be seen on the scan so it really depends greatly on the place and post editing

[@nic.frasca]

In my opinion those shots were heavily edited

[@motomc6962]

Definitely a lot of editing

[@bukanmasmentri]

1:11 dope shot bruh!!! lookin' nice and sharp!!! love it!🔥🔥🔥

[@pedromeza2398]

I have been shooting and developing film since the 1960's Junior High, and for years high quality film.was my standard for portraits, but recently I have discovered that less expensive film and including expired film will produce pictures that simply leaves you in wonder.

[@angelreed2276]

Oatmeal raisin is forever underrated

[@isaacstacey1227]

those are raisins all up in th-MMMMMM

[@israelalves6323]

Absolutely stunning pics! I want to buy an analog camera right now!

[@guillermolcamachoalfaro173]

Williams favorite picture is also my favorite as well. Watching it the first time It gave me the best reaction 😌

[@ThreeUnoFive]

Oatmeal raisin cookies are the biggest lie to cookies period. They often get mistaken for chocolate chip and it’s a horrible thing to experience.

[@Marvin-gb7ir]

Listen to me. Oatmeal Raisin Cookies with chocolate chips is HANDS DOWN THE BEST TYPE OF COOKIE I'VE EVER HAD 😳😳😳

[@pooly440]

“Blasting Willem’s mug.”

[@edphoto]

Some absolutely beautiful photos! 👍

[@davidbernal9503]

Oh my god those Kodak Gold colors are so fire. I’ve shot it a couple times, but I need to give it another look.

[@CaImNights]

4:18 - Willem: "This video is just going to be called 'Joe Shoots with... His Camera.'" 4:22 - Joe, shaking his head: "No, no. All - Your three photos *is better than, all thirty-three of mine-* " 4:27 - Willem: "-Yeah, probably true-" 4:27 - Joe: "-I don't even want to hear it." *_(Bro,) He's such a good friend._* :)

[@chronicfish]

*Nice! May I ask how keeping film in the fridge helps?*

[@danitorralba8010]

chronicfish literally i have no idea but whenever i bought film my mom would chuck it in the fridge but i guess it helps keep it good for longer? left a pack near a window once and she nearly went off on me

[@MattDueskable]

it's cool, it's relatively dry, and it's dark

[@KodakBoy]

chronicfish it keeps the film emulsions from melting off or from distortion Room temp or high temperature can really be bad for film over a long period of time It’s only necessary if you have lots of film I like to think of film as vegetables Keep it in the fridge to maintain it’s freshness But I wouldn’t recommend eating Film

[@kylielesmeister6277]

Wow. Kodak Gold looked so beautiful here. Its amazing in warm golden light!!

[@flachtsix]

The light goin BRAZY in these photos