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[@VirtuaSavage]

Calling in the Batmobile in Arkham Knight always felt badass. It never got old. Doing the tank stuff did but just driving around felt very Batman.

[@randyjax09]

I loved the Batmobile in Arkham Knight. I even liked some of the combat with it until it started getting annoying & repetitive. But that cloudburst tank can go drive over a cliff.

[@kbrownevan]

I’m sorry but that was one for the worst parts of the game for me. It felt more like a chore than a fun time imo

[@GrammarNaziAUS]

@@kbrownevan Driving the batmobile was a chore? I can only imagine how much worse the Batbike must be for you.

[@VitorHugoOliveiraSousa]

Yep the major problem and disappointment with the batmobile it was that it didn't have a upgrade tree like Batman. A missed opportunity since the batman gameplay was fully matured. The way you started the gameplay with the batmobile it's the way you finish it. And seeing they put so much of the game around it, by the half of the game it's starting to get old. They should have put different gadget and weapons and enemies type through the game to keep it always fresh. Or make it a smaller part of the game.

[@starbreaker269]

@@GrammarNaziAUS you mean the Bat tank. That was not the batmobile

[@imabussuupson]

This is definitely one of those "wait a couple years till all the kinks are worked out and its on a deep sale" kinda games

[@Jay9966]

Kinda like Arkham Knight was? I still remember when that game was released lol, it trashed on so much

[@heretic124]

Or you can play a better game from your back log. This doesn't seem to be worth of a try even on PS+ type of service, simply not worth the time.

[@PremMajumdarVG]

@@Jay9966 well except there was a great game beneath the horrendous technical issues unlike this game. Btw I don't mean the game itself (Gotham knight) is terrible but nowhere as near good as Arkham knight.

[@Jay9966]

@@PremMajumdarVG Honestly I was initially so hyped for the game until I saw gameplay, I realized it would at best be a bargain sale purchase for me, I'll wait for it to be around $15 with a couple DLCs lol

[@PremMajumdarVG]

@@Jay9966 u know what made me not buy it? The optimization. I read a review of someone saying he has a rtx 3090 and couldn't maintain 60 fps. Now I have 3060 so I'm fked. I really do not care about clunky controls and grindy gameplay because i love those things but horrendous optimization is a major turn off for me. I only buy badly optimized games of the game itself is really fun or if it's a Batman game cause I'm a diehard Batman fan( Arkham knight at launch lol). But still I'm considering buying it and capping it at 30 fps and maxing it out since I don't mind 30 fps completed GoW at 30 fps maxed out even though I could run it at 60 and playing cyberpunk also at 30 rn with Ray tracing and what not.

[@Froosty27]

the crimes to complete the knighthood quest generate based on the clues you get. the little spyglass things that drop from enemies fills a meter that adds crimes for your next nightly patrol.

[@xander4234]

Yeah glad you pointed that out. Also combat is timing based “timed strikes”.

[@Jayozranger]

I love watching reviews from people who don’t understand basic game mechanics am i right!

[@meurer13daniel]

What you said doesn't contradict what he says in the video tho

[@chriskramer5341]

@@meurer13daniel it’s at 6:10 he says it only generates 1-3 a night but if he would interrogate and do the non premeditated crimes around the city he would fill up the meter and go back and he would have ten crimes the next night it doesn’t take multiple nights in game/ real life hours

[@toonamelts]

I’m finding myself not watching reviews for any game for awhile now, and the less reviews I watch the easier it is to avoid the trap of mob mentality and formulate my own opinion (who woulda thought?). I’ve noticed my overall enjoyment of gaming return by essentially just not caring what the outspoken group thinks, & I haven’t been disappointed by a game I purchased in a few years as a result. This game is good fun to me and that’s what matters, if people don’t enjoy it that’s okay too

[@ataridc]

Just go along with the mob coward

[@codybroadfoot7386]

Louder for the people in the back please. After The Last of Us Part II I learned that if you ignore the mob mentality and actually form your own opinion about things you will enjoy video games a lot more.

[@strahinjagov]

​@@codybroadfoot7386 did it ever occur to you that the popular opinion is popular for a reason?

[@dan4992]

@@strahinjagov i sometimes think that and then I'm like "but cardis B's WAP" then I'm not so sure popularity is a good metric

[@KovanNova]

​@@strahinjagovthat reason isn't always a good one.

[@rykno23]

They were making avengers, saw what happened, and tried to repivot. That menu and upgrade system looks almost exactly like avengers

[@edmontonboy99]

PIVOT… PIVOT… PIVOT… PIVOT!

[@theguywhowentthere3346]

@@edmontonboy99 "For the record, what did you mean by pivot?"

[@mookiedt]

Stop capping. It does not look the same. You can clearly tell that they just didn't know what to do with the game. Plus it doesn't make any sense to say they tried to make an avengers then went a different path. Why are people thinking the devs looked at avengers when it's clear as day they looked at assassin's creed? AC has these elements that the game is trying to be.

[@fuelflame]

@@mookiedt cause it sucks lol

[@RohanSharma-vb7zd]

@@mookiedt the question is whether a bad direction is worse than no direction?

[@Cyifu]

With having to reset the night once you run out of premeditated crimes issue if you complete a smaller crime, and interrogate one of the enemies with a ? above their head, they will tell you about another premeditated crime happening in the city so you don't actually have to reset the night to complete the knighthood challenges

[@gagesilvas9426]

Exactly, really need to review all mechanics before releasing misinformation about a game, literally got knighthood done in one patrol with Batgirl

[@lordlamontF]

Exactly

[@cookiemonster0956]

@@gagesilvas9426 they gotta strike while the iron is hot to get those views

[@landonterry4506]

Yea he didn’t touch on a lot of the features of the game he only put 30 minutes in and said ok let’s review

[@JacksmackDotCom]

Scan the police SUV to get a new premeditated crime from the police radio.

[@ezradenny7207]

Yes, you do have to reset the night when you run out of crimes to do but you can do up to like 10 or so crimes to get more you have to do the smaller ones and interrogate the “interrogatable” npc. That’s how you do nights with 10 or so crime encounters

[@MrAnderson813]

I was gonna comment the same thing. I usually have between 8 and 10 a night.

[@jrplumber0503]

I don’t get the problem with the system that people have to me its better than in Spiderman when I’m trying to stop demon crimes and I’m stuck swinging in circles until one pops up on the radar.

[@studivan]

You have to reset the night to enter all information gathered into the bat computer and to upgrade your weapons and gear, if you haven’t noticed the enemies get harder each night and with some missions, you can’t finish the game in one night, that’s why some missions send you back to the belfry.

[@lordlamontF]

@@studivan facts

[@prophet7753]

@@studivan Interrogations actually reveal undiscovered crimes currently on the map as well as giving you info for the next.

[@Arcademan09]

"it's fun with friends!" *Literally EVERYTHING is more fun with friends*

[@Joker_JAK]

Not necessarily.

[@joshuasatterwhite9520]

On god, if that's the only good knock on your game then your game isnt good

[@rhetiq9989]

I remember Angry Joe said this in his Fallout 76 review, another messy game at launch

[@REXae86]

@@joshuasatterwhite9520 facts

[@paperclip6377]

Even rolling a dog turd is fun with freinds

[@Awaken_To_0]

I don't know. Having played both Batgirl and Red Hood, his guns definitely feel different from the batarangs. They fire faster, the bullets fly straight as opposed to curving like the batarangs, meaning it's easier to aim over long distances. The batarangs are infinite, while the guns have to be reloaded(which ties in to some of Red Hoods skill to reaload instantly) Just some things I noticed.

[@ukiyo1878]

what’s your thoughts on the game? i’ve only beaten arkham city but have enjoyed the others in the trilogy and can’t decide if i want this game or to never touch it

[@carrots4pigeons343]

@@ukiyo1878 I've only played as Robin in co-op with my brother playing as Nightwing and we've had a blast so far. If you go into thinking you're going to get the usual Arlham experience, you'll probably be disappointed. My brother and I knew this wasn't an Arkham game going into it, we knew it was meant to be a whole different experience. I think if you strictly play co-op with maybe a little bit of messing around in single player you'll have fun. My only real complaint so far is that only the host's character appears in cutscenes outside the Belfry.

[@x0gucx]

​@@ukiyo1878 comparatively The story isn't as good, (after being spoiled I was both underwhelmed and surprised they actually decided to go there) gameplay is less crisp, you really need a friend to play with or else everyone turns into a sponge or stun locks the s*it out of you spamming the same lunge if you are expecting to play a good game you'll be disappointed, you need to come in expecting a s*it game to make fun of to truly enjoy it. most people who say it isn't that bad are for a rude awakening later down the line.

[@Awaken_To_0]

@@ukiyo1878 the story seems good, but I haven't gotten to far yet I've taken down Dr. Q and Mr. Freeze and the set pieces are nice. I think the biggest appeal is seeing how the bar family interact and bounce off each other. The melee combat is a lot more simple but sometimes it hits a good Arkham-y flow. It really is a grindfest though. I would say if you're a big fan of the Batfamily then go ahead and get it, otherwise wait for a sale. It's not a bad game, better than Marvel's Avengers, but not mind-blowing like Spider-Man or Arkham.

[@jeremywiles8765]

@@x0gucx lol that's your opinion which is subjective not facts. Let other people enjoy the game

[@whatwise8683]

It would be hilarious if they add the ability to play as batman as dlc 🤣

[@Jonkin715]

That would be some Sugar Honey Iced Tea the publisher would pull!

[@arig589]

They will do it, 100 %

[@Treyperiod]

Imo It’d honestly be more fitting if they allowed us to play as villains. Like imagine deathstroke or joker or anybody

[@Michael714AHM]

It would have to be a prequel DLC because batman is dead

[@Daxter-hl7dw]

@@Treyperiod Deathstroke would be cool, him or his daughter Rose Wilson. Fits with the Lazarus storyline as well. Would like a twist where we play as Riddler when he's a P.I (like he was in the Animated Series for a time) and fight the corrupt Police Department.

[@noahkahan4364]

i’ve had up to 7 premeditated crimes appear. you have to do the little white triangles bc they are how you gather clues for premeditated crimes, and by gathering clues, more premeditated crimes appear

[@tedfitzpatrickyt]

I’ve been enjoying the game so far. Sometimes grapple becomes confused and targets something behind me 😂 and I haven’t mastered Robin’s teleportation yet - the teleportation seems to stop exit too early (short of target). Overall, I like the game though. The homages to Arkham are very fun, like the Asylum music rendered as natural atmospheric sounds.

[@fanjestic4294]

True. 30fps doesn't make it a bad game, but it does mean that if you compare it to another action game that runs at 60 or higher 30fps is going to give you a worse experience overall. Action games often require you to be quick and precise and a lower framerate is a detriment to that.

[@lionzcrown1702]

This generally is needed in fighting games. In a game like this the outcry is definitely an exaggeration. God of war 2018 was 30 and impeccable. These game is a beat ‘em up

[@javierlandaverde4108]

Gotham Knights isn't an "Action Game". It's a RPG. The Witcher: The Wild Hunt is a good comparison. It's also 30 FPS. A lot of thinks happen in Gotham Knights that need the game to scale to 30 FPS including playing Co-Op. Imagine the Witcher having a co-op. It would destroy those 30FPS .

[@GothPaoki]

30 fps is the least of the problems with this game

[@lionzcrown1702]

@@javierlandaverde4108 brother two things. 1. It’s an action rpg. 2. They definitely could have fixed performance man, I’m enjoying the game but I know it’s optimization issues on the developers end. They knew they didn’t optimize it 6 months ago which is the real reason they canceled last gen versions. At least they were honest with themselves and didn’t rob people like cyberpunk did on last gen consoles

[@Drakobsidian]

You can’t compare an next gen only title to games that came out with the generation before

[@quinnobi]

Here’s the thing - the game is okay BUT, I love existing in Gotham City and will play any game set in that place whether I’m Batman, Batgirl, or Gordon’s mustache.

[@saery4523]

When I first played it I wasn’t too sure about it, especially bc I was expecting it to be almost identical to Arkham city and Arkham knight, but after playing for a while I’m really starting to love it.

[@blokin5039]

Poop on your face is not fun.

[@vee1766]

Most people go into it with a negative bias from months of negative talks and now the exagerated bad reviews. It's a decent game. People have been saying for months "let's not compare it to the Arkham games" and now they do exactly that, ridiculous.

[@daltonsmith8022]

Me to i love the game it runs smoothly on my series x I'm playing the new game plus right now

[@Hatz127]

Love this game

[@Whodat455]

It’s not as bad as everyone is saying but I was the same way until I realized it’s not in the Arkham knight universe. Gothem knights is its own game .

[@hectororozco8207]

The game isn't quite that bad. With the performance of the game being not great, it was still manageable to play and have fun. The story was great up to a certain point but felt so anti-climatic with certain parts and some feeling forced that could've easily been avoidable. The visual of the game were not great but not terrible. The gameplay feels sluggish at times such as the split second when waiting to grab a stunned enemy, but overall felt great with having different abilities to use and unique combos and the challenge of having to use timed strikes perfectly. If you're wanting to buy this game because you think it's an arkham successor, this isn't the game for you. However, if you want to play and explore the batman family and fight criminals to save gotham, this game is for you. Again, this is just the early stages of the game and I'm sure there will be major updates and fixes to make the game they intended for their audience.

[@jezSonic]

Performance is sh**, shadows are flashing(In my case), Ray tracing makes stutters, you sure it's "not great"? But yeah, it can be fun... unless you play on very unbalanced hard difficulty and enemies literally cheat trough the mechanics just to kill you...

[@Ninja0608]

Yeah it's not THAT bad at all. In fact, it's super fun. Only thing is the technical side needs some work. Other than that, it's one of my favorites now. Absolutely love it

[@LeoSanz7]

Same here I love it. You're right.

[@MaxPower-cm6ie]

Its mid asf 70 dollars?! SEVENTY FUCKING DOLLARS

[@positiveoutlook9137]

Mid game

[@sjsharp2007]

Yea hpersonally I'm enjoying i tand I'm playing a sBatgirl as well. I'm planning on doimn gplaythroughs wit hall 4 eventually though atm I'm focusing on Batgirl first as the yd ohav esom diffren tmov esets but they'er mostl yconnected t oth emomentum abilities. He was using mostly basic abilties an dbasic abilities are often copy pasted across the different characters it's often th special abilities that makes the differen tcharacters unique ones Batgirl has he rglide Red Hood has his little bunnyhop in the air. Robin has his teleportre and stuff like that. Again things like Batgirl can summon drones tha tfight along side her as I unlocked that ability yesterday at the same time a sher gliding talents. She can also heal moer often tha nthe other knights as well because she can use he rdrone to patch her up an stuff lik ethat. The stor ythe comba taer a lot o ffun as ewll and I'm no tfindin gthe crimes to grind ytbh as I'm quiet enjoyin gbeatin gup the bad guys. For me the Avengers game is a lot worse for grind the stor ywas good enough and the combat wa sfun but you reall yneeded t odo a lo tof it to really level up for me I'm not getting tha twith this game because I've found I can usually get my characte rup a ;leve ljust by doing a coupl eof nights of work atm.

[@positiveoutlook9137]

@@sjsharp2007 you liking it doesn’t mean the game ain’t mid that’s why you said “your personal opinion”

[@wanealy1]

I'm actually really loving this game. I was nervous with all the reviews coming out but once I got used to the systems (combat and progression) it became really fun for me. But to each his own...I would still consider checking this out if you're a fan of the Arkham games once it goes for sale if you're hesitant...

[@justiceknight9746]

I completely agree. It’s a bit janky with movement and combat, but really enjoying it so far. Definitely don’t think it was worth the money for the deluxe edition, but I’m having a blast playing through it. Nothing groundbreaking but fun enough to warrant its existence

[@jynxce]

I know when the industry decides it wants to join together in taking down a game, they don't hold back. I was getting regardless, taking advantage of Steam refund if needed. I needed to get "my" hands on the game to test drive it. What I immediately noticed is that the "dead" city that Skill Up harped so much about was a straight up lie. In Arkham Knight, where is the fully working traffic system & trolley system? Where are any pedestrians walking about outside? All I every found were thugs & their vehicles approaching me for a fight? Pick your bones with game for its faults, but these Disney/Marvel leaning critics need to curb their bias just a bit.

[@arturbb]

@@jynxce I don't get the Gotham criticism either, it's like people are just making shit up to hate on the game. The city looks absolutely amazing, and is 100% more alive than in Knight.

[@sosamanotf642]

Don’t listen to reviews bro, they’re trash

[@YodaSama0]

I’d definitely play this game but not for 70 dollars waiting for a sale

[@lionzcrown1702]

It isn’t that hard to get the 10. You must do minor crimes to build up the investigation meter. The more you do the more it goes up. Once it’s at like 6-7, go to base then go out again. You’ll see 6-7 of those missions. It’s simple and takes 40 minutes or less to get traversal once you figure it out

[@pbjae2707]

Yea he was honestly making it tedious by going back to the belfry every 3 major crimes

[@BOBBYdigital31]

Yeah it's not a big deal, it took me 45 minutes to do 10 crimes for Robin and I was on and off because of my kids. Plus when you level up one character I think they all level up too making the leveling grind easier. This is way easier than Division, Destiny and Avengers where you have to level up all characters individually

[@davinharris6844]

@@BOBBYdigital31 agreed its just I would still perfer games like star wars battlefield 2 and avengers over this

[@lionzcrown1702]

@Bloofa honestly it’s like swinging around in Spider-Man and beating people ip in “forts”. Some people rob banks, some people and trying to break into buildings or cars, sometimes you’re inside a big building or sometimes underground. It’s like any other game. Go here, beat people up. Which is why I don’t understand peoples complaints in that end. It’s nothing new to video games. On the other side, it SUCKS to have to do it per character to unlock traversal and it wouldn’t be so bad if they felt very different from the beginning, instead of as you progress through the story their differences come out.

[@lionzcrown1702]

@@BOBBYdigital31 I have to say though avengers had better combat. As they leveled up you could unlock timed combos, delay an input for a bunch of other combos, just more individuality and variety. To the point I think this combat would have skyrocketed if they did the and and added delayed input combos…like X, wait, then X for a different combo string. It’s so simple and fits in this style but they stopped halfway. That’s my complaint with the game. A lot of bad things, but a lot of good things that are never great because they stop halfway.

[@raymondheron1223]

This guy really is blowing up the grind, more then it is. You level up quickly AND each level up level up all the characters. This guy

[@bloodbornepro]

All these youtubers are making it seem like its the worst game for views. Game is a blast

[@lordlamontF]

He really makes some of the craziest nitpicks and spreads misinformation like crazy 😴

[@JohnRyanHennessy]

I stopped watching the moment he said “looks like Miles Morales.” No originality or worthwhile insight here. Thought he might give fair coverage based on intro but alas, other KZbinr clickbaiting based on trending reviews.

[@thilankavithanage1891]

I don't agree with Luke always but I think that even him is too positive for this game. Gotham Knights is pure garbage

[@tanzolo4487]

@@thilankavithanage1891 same here. I don’t agree with Luke often. But honestly? Grinding to get a glide? Maybe “grinding” for 40 minutes isn’t a long time when you are 17… Trust me when you’re nearing 30 and get out momma’s basement, you don’t have time to waste 40 minutes of your life just to be able to glide in a mediocre game. Especially when a 10 year old game allows you to do off the get go

[@stepkickking9868]

I can’t say I’m surprised. Hopefully Rocksteady Studios can make another Arkham game once they’re finished with that Suicide Squad game that nobody asked for.

[@jamesgratz4771]

Lmao. suicide squad has been done to death. And it kinda looks like a fancy 3rd person shooter. Plus there are rumors it’ll be live service trash. It’s overhyped

[@stutudi4881]

@@jamesgratz4771 Let's give them a Chance Not their fault that The Movies and all are killing the IP I think it will be very fun

[@heretic124]

@@jamesgratz4771 Where is the hype, lol. That one trailer got a good reaction but I don't feel like it's highly anticipated. And it's likely gonna be microtransaction filled trash.

[@theonlyjoe_]

@@heretic124 what makes you think that? Rocksteady haven’t made a single game with live service in mind

[@jamesgratz4771]

@@theonlyjoe_ because it’s a live service game

[@adecentname56]

You didn't mention that Robin's knighthood ability is moving a cursor.

[@AndreArkade]

14:50 After giving the game some time and unlocking their abilities, they all DO play VERY differently

[@Plague_Doc22]

Think you should use afterburner for performance portions of the videos. It's much more detailed and also is activated with a button click.

[@legomotion77]

Game is hella fun in co-op, especially if you're just looking to run around and blow off steam. Can't really recommend for pure single-player, but worth it with a friend (mileage may vary, ofc)

[@bleppyboo5969]

Personally only been playing in single player and have been having a blast

[@basedsoothsayer]

Me and the boys are disappointed it's not 4 player co-op. Also the lack of cross-play and cancellation of the last gen version messes us up too lol

[@legomotion77]

@@basedsoothsayer Extremely fair. I guess I “lucked out” with having one friend interested who happened to be on the same platform, but it’s def unfortunate for a general squad

[@legomotion77]

@@bleppyboo5969 I think I gotta get further in, still in the really early stages. Gonna dive back in solo tonight thanks to this comment

[@ghost621]

@@basedsoothsayer I’m pretty sure they’re working on adding 4 player co-op to release in December

[@mattday7337]

The thing with witcher and rdr2 being 30 FPS is that they were cinematic enough for it to look good still. Rdr2 in particular feels like watching a film sometimes, and in that case it would be running at 24-25fps, so it just feels right

[@lightTheImp]

I will say the New Game+ is definitely way better than the base game. At that point the characters actually feel different. Nightwing being great at fast-paced, freeflow combat. Red Hood deals a bunch of damage but is slower, and his gun is insane. Batgirl feels the most like Batman from the Arkham Series. Robin is the best for stealth/predator because of his size/speed. This game feels like Batman Arkham Origins in terms of combat (especially if you take off Enemy Health Bars in the "UI"). And it makes sense considering both are published by the same studio. If you're a big Comic Book/Story Fan this game is for you. If you are an Arkham fan and want more Freeflow combat this game is for you. If you are an RPG/Souls player, I would recommend Valhalla over Gotham Knights lol. If anything, this game has made me appreciate Origins more. Just like Origins, the story is great, but the gameplay seems to lack/play it safe.

[@eddiev39]

that's a fair take, but I almost never play new game+ lol I barely have time as it is to play games these days, I'd like those differences to be there when I first start playing. Tbh, my biggest superficial complaint about this game is just what I've seen of Red Hood. I hate how he has to have his guns in hand ALL the time. I get the class difference stuff, but idk I just don't dig it.

[@lightTheImp]

@@eddiev39 yeah it does suck that in order to experience the game how it should be, imo, you have to get to New Game+. But I feel like the same argument could be made for Spider-Man PS4. I think the reason Red Hood has guns in his hands constantly is because all the characters do, so I guess it's somehow baked into animations. During melee combat it never really bothered me too much since I was more focused on which enemy was attacking and blocking, etc.

[@orngbutrcream3767]

Can you do another run through the campaign after doing new game plus?

[@lightTheImp]

@@orngbutrcream3767 I'm not sure if you can replay missions. I have yet to complete New Game+. There is an option to start a "New Game," but I believe there is only one Save Slot, so I don't want to test it right now.

[@route77productions]

Batgirl is going to be the best character for that raid mode. She is a combat, stealth, support and Medic character.

[@fallensoldier85]

I'd like to add some clarity (if you find this comment). If you are grinding to get your knighthood you can most certainly get all ten crimes in a single night. All you have to do is interrogate one of the random enemies thrown about the city. It will then place a new crime on your map - that being said it does and will take a good amount of time, but I hope this helps some people. The game has its ups and downs. Luckily the story is one of its ups

[@qdatruth9668]

Just so you know. You can unlock more premeditated crimes on your map by interrogating criminals at the white and purple triangles. The higher you fill that red magifine glass the more crimes pop up. * Very important you can either scan the criminals to figure out who to interrogate or look for the person with the higher level. I suggest leaving that person last

[@callmepsycho3132]

My brother played it and liked it a lot, he even did a NG+ run right after so I’ll pick it up just to do co-op tbh.

[@hidaian724]

the Co-Op is a blast!

[@farewelljupiter]

He didn’t beat the whole game in 3 days and then beat it again on NG plus pmaooooo get outta here

[@REXae86]

Bs

[@MrKuger9]

To be fair, the game does state that in order for more premeditated crimes to show up the next night. You have to collect clues by stopping small crimes. Extra larger crime operations will even show up during the same night depending on the amount of clues you collect. So while you start with three large crime operations, there's a good chance five or so will pop up if you collect more clues. But as you said, it is rather tedious but as you progress the story line. More unique small crimes will show up with some even set up to ambush you.

[@rezinator7321]

at 10:18 AI isn't dumb they were induced with fear which makes them less likely to wanna fight and they'll sometimes run away. For an actual proper review you need to understand everything about the game first.

[@TheOriginalDx1]

The biggest problem I've had is occasionally getting stuck on a door/table. Like the invisible wall actaully has a corner and it's not rounded to let the character slide past.

[@GoodXylophone]

I think it mainly has to do with the clunky and non-responsive movement. The character tends to stick to weird corners and making small turns while walking is slow and not responsive at all.

[@TheOriginalDx1]

@@GoodXylophone another problem I have is of I press O while perched on a gargoyle/ledge, my character (instead of dropping straight down) will leap across 20ft infront, totally ruining some stealth sections. But that could be a me issue.

[@GoodXylophone]

@@TheOriginalDx1 Yeah it's almost impossible to drop straight down. They always leap forward like 20ft in front of the enemies instead of straight down behind them. It's a mixed bag for me. I think if the performance wasn't an issue and the movement was more responsive and fluid, I would like it a lot more.

[@ryanrhodes3169]

Nobody talks about the momentum system, which adds a little more skill to normal Batman combat

[@vee1766]

Nobody talks about the positives because it doesn't sell on KZbin.

[@anasshahid224]

The cops clearing up the area at 10:50 is a nice idea, adds to the realism of the world 👏👏👏

[@Xsopit24631]

it's definitely not for everyone maybe when it's smoothed out more people might go back but at it's core if that's not your game this won't be. I like not being the ultimate batman but pieces of him that all work if you stay with that character. batgirl seemed to be the weakest when I first got her but after a few levels her move set opened up more and I found her to be super fun after. story is very comic like which can be good or bad. I'm currently 24 plus hours in and I think I only did like 5 story missions

[@Amouroso]

YESS. Loved all your coverage of this game leading up to launch and been waiting for your video on it now that it’s out

[@royalcoorz9039]

30fps is just uncalled for in 2022. Developers need to give us more options when it comes to performance.

[@johnryan3622]

I love how console players have gone from “there’s nothing wrong with 30fps, shut the fuck up,” to “30fps is absolutely unacceptable” in the span of like 6 months. I’m not sure if it’s ignorance or just collective parroting, but there are VERY good reasons 30fps has been a console standard years, and nobody said that was going to change. Just because new consoles can run older games at 60 (for honor is a hotly debated one that comes to mind) doesn’t mean the “next gen” toasters are going to run new tech and new games at 60fps. And all of you chirping “unacceptable” over and over isn’t going to change that. Look up i7-7700k and 1080Ti. See when those were brand new. Now realize I can run the game at 50-60fps on hardware THAT old. Yeah, consoles really suck.

[@simonrockstream]

It's nowhere near 30fps. Its a stuttering mess and it doesnt even get close to 30.

[@LowResLeafa]

@@johnryan3622 I'm not reading all that

[@Razorwire882]

never seen one of your videos but 3 mins in you sound very honest, straightforward and informative. good work cutting thru the bs that some 'game journalists' or what have you put out

[@RegularFlyGuy]

This review is actually way off. Lots of things said in this video is just straight up lies. He didnt understand the mechanics of the game and sold his opinions as facts

[@Razorwire882]

@@RegularFlyGuy word, appreciate the heads up, can't play anyway cus I'm stuck on last gen ☠ broke hrs

[@Michael714AHM]

I have to disagree with Luke on this one. Saying that they are all the same, because the buttons do the same thing, is like playing Tekken and saying the characters are all the same because they are punch and kick but dressed up in different animations. I've played the game nonstop since it came out and I loved it, I've mostly played as Jason and I can tell the difference when I jump to another characters. Grayson can hop between enemies with ease and his ranged attack comes out slow and are mostly to interrupt shooters, Batgirl is inbtween the two with a beat down approach and quick batarang throws, Robin does more AOE and Elemental damage while his ranged attacks don't don't too much damage. Locking the traversal behind the Knighthood progression is annoying, and the stability is very annoying but underneath it, it's actually a pretty fun game.

[@Felarx]

Yea I dont get why all the KZbinrs milk the smallest glitches/mechanics and base there whole review around it I love gotham knights and all the problems that exist can be fixed

[@rojobroko5979]

It’s actually not bad and pretty fun. All the characters play pretty fun and the costumes look pretty cool too.

[@gent-47]

It’s dogshit ,go play the Arkham series.

[@Crimsongz]

🧢

[@Lust4VAlENTiNE]

@@Crimsongz Nah it’s actually fun, I had doubts going in but I’m enjoying it so far.

[@gent-47]

@@Lust4VAlENTiNE cap

[@sjsharp2007]

Yeah I gotta sa yI lik eth ecostumes to especially Batgirl's she looks pretty badass in some of them. I've struggled a little with the glidin gthoug hI do enjoy letting her spread her wings now and then.

[@ab_shootin]

preciate the insight on this....soon as I saw life bars above the enemy heads it was a nope for me....Definitely the year of waitin on a sale for gaming this time around....after gow will be waiting on 2023 q1

[@antharian8053]

When you review a game either play it more or learn its mechanics through other sources.Xp is shared among the 4 characters...so you dont need to grind all 4 to unlock their talent trees

[@lemonheadlemonhead862]

This isn't a review it's more of an impression video

[@exFAT.]

He was saying you have to grind them individually to unlock their Knighthood, which is largely pointless because they are all slower than just using the magic materialising Batcycle.

[@Joker_JAK]

I am so glad I pre-ordered this game. I am having such a great time with it. My buddy and I have been playing and it's such a blast. It looks amazing and is a lot of fun. That's all I care about. I played co-op with my friend for 7 hours straight on launch day. Literally zero issues. (Though, we are on PS5)

[@goat9295]

I didn’t preorder if. I got it off Amazon and it still came with the preorder cosmetics in the case

[@dillontaplin7332]

5:40 I think the complaint about how long it takes to get knighthood is a little exaggerated. If you interrogate an informant goon it will give you a new event to do. I think it caps out at 5-6 per knight and it makes enough clues to max out the next night after the first, took me a little under an hour for each of them. But I assume it can happen naturally over time if it’s not your main goal.

[@rezinator7321]

exactly he doesn't understand it took me and my gf bout 30-40min

[@mobfisherman5843]

I've gotten 10 total for the max so it's really fast tbh

[@lordlamontF]

Right my friend and I Both unlocked ours at level 5 and we were playing for almost an hour

[@BabyGirlTiny]

I think the fact that it’s repetitive and tedious is why. Because doing the same thing is a slog and is annoying. Doesn’t help that nothing feels fun or interesting

[@rezinator7321]

@@BabyGirlTiny I'm 40 hours in the game and still finding new crimes and new stronghold setups and the further you progress in the story the more varieties of crimes there will be

[@Dead_Hitori]

The whole ui/menu just makes the whole game feel like a mobile game

[@muslim7677]

Fortnite either

[@someuniverseguy7062]

No

[@simonrockstream]

Because it is.

[@RedRobinTitan]

And an incredibly cheap mobile game at that. There are many mobile games that have better menus and UI designs than this one.

[@Alqha]

You do not have to reset the night to get more premeditated crimes, you just interrogate the enemies with question marks above their heads and new ones appear in the city. Knighthood can literally be completed in one night

[@noahkahan4364]

Honestly so far I like the game. I think a lot of people are getting far too hung up on thee fact that it’s not as good as arkham, which I understand. But its also not trying to be an arkham game. The one thing i find silly is that their unique travel mechanics are locked behind a skill tree. It makes sense for some of them, since it’s like oh you need expertise to engineer this thing, but batgirl not knowing how to glide, for example seemed weird

[@odinmcleod6890]

Man, all of the traversal cutscenes were kinda wonky except for Red Hood's and his was even goofier than the rest of Bat fam xD. I'm loving the game. Playing with my bro, but Batgirl just going, "Huh... oooh.... huh.. Ahh? Huh!" with the iPad was just hilarious to me.

[@miguelitoreyes5514]

Gotham Knights is the other side of Saints Row's coin. Saints Row is a hollow, manufactured feeling product. Gotham Knights is full of passion but misses the mark. Its good ideas feel hollow despite the clear intentions on the part of the devs. You can tell they tried and that there's heart put into it (unlike Saints Row), but it falls short. The combat is fun but shallow and traversal for everyone except Batgirl feels off. Graphically it's good but not what you'd expect out of a triple A title (although the lighting system is legitimately fantastic). It's got an awful and overly complicated gear system and ugly, clunky UI. And lack of a performance mode is strange. Overall the game feels floaty and unpolished. But there's so much there to work with and build from. It's really not as bad as some of these reviews suggest. There's fun to be had, and the story does a lot of heavy lifting. Just temper expectations and you'll have a good time. This reminds me of the first Assassin's Creed. Great ideas, great concept, mediocre execution. But a sequel could really nail it.

[@jamesgratz4771]

I think it’s fun. It’s satisfying to patrol Gotham and stop thugs. And the writing for characters is a little cheesy but overall good. I really dislike the wonky feeling traversal though.

[@miguelitoreyes5514]

@@jamesgratz4771 I really feel like they were overthinking how to implement Robin, Nightwing and Red Hood into an open world way too much. All they had to do was make the grappling they already have faster and snappier, and create a legitimate parkour system similar to AC. That would have been enough to make exploring Gotham as cape-less heroes work. The glider, transportation and mystical leap are unnecessary and feel very off.

[@jamesgratz4771]

@@miguelitoreyes5514 for sure

[@rebellious_red7123]

This game was DOA from the very beginning, the obvious stain is too large to ignore. This game was obviously meant to be a live service game. And the devs had to pivot direction when the avengers game failed. A court of owl centric storyline involving the bat family without Batman is an awesome concept for a game. But it was wasted, hopefully one day we can see a proper court of owls story with the bat family as a game.

[@jamesgratz4771]

Eh. People hated it from day one because “old game good new game bad.” It wasn’t Arkham and didn’t have Batman so therefore bad . Everything else was just icing on the Reddit cake

[@rebellious_red7123]

@@jamesgratz4771 or it was the fact that it was a avengers live service game with a Batman skin and that’s not what people wanted

[@AirForcePararescuer]

Loving the game solo, and co op with a buddy, the side missions really blew me away, no spoilers but the one side mission for a certain chilly foe was unexpected. The easter eggs and little comments made around the city about your character (got asked if I was Deathstroke playing as red hood) really make it more immersive than I expected. The devs really put in some thought into the story and details in the city. Go in with an open mind and you might enjoy it, also for my biggest complaint would be the combat can be slow at times, but that's because I just came off of playing Arkham Knight and you can zip around a whole room in seconds.

[@tristanskywalker1998]

I actually quite like the night system. Especially when you play on the hardest difficulty, part of the challenge is prioritizing which crimes you're going to stop and doing as much as you can on your patrol before you use up all your healthpacks and the thugs you fight whittle you down to the point that even trying to stop a small mugging is potentially dangerous. It adds a risk/reward element where you can gain the rewards for another stopped crime but suffer the penalties of being defeated if you fail.

[@peppermush46]

I’m having a lot of fun with the game. I actually like the combat, I’ve noticed that a lot of people don’t use the perfect timing hit, and just button mash instead. The coop is also great. I would say that the coop is the best feature.

[@Luckytrapt]

Same. The perfect dodging, perfect combo hit timing, and the enemies that get tougher and more complicated makes the combat pretty fun. Makes me wonder why so many reviews keep saying the combat is so simple when it definitely has a lot going on. Maybe not crazy difficult buts it’s not 1 dimensional

[@peppermush46]

I am sad that you can’t fully complete the skill tree though, it would make late game much funner.

[@ianharris3502]

30 fps targets in this generation are unacceptable, end of story

[@jorgeloredo100]

His tought on the matter is completely worthless also considering that most of those games are getting 60fps next gen versions becasue playing at a higher frame rate is just objectively better.

[@boomer1327]

we need rocksteady for another batman

[@KeglekongenDK]

Co-op worked from the get go for my friend and I on Steam, so I guess it was the lucky few it worked for =) Also the further you get into the game, the more premeditated crimes are available, I have seen 5-8 crimes in progress, with co-op it's even faster as you can take one each and just do a round on the map. So it's not as tedious as it might seem at first =) With New Game+, choose a new character and you can do it while doing the main/side missions. Also AI hiding, notice the icons over their heads, which is "fear" so they run away and hide from you etc. Characters do actually play differently, once you unlock abilities, again. I appreciate people doing Reviews/Previews of games, but most of the time, it seems like people do not really take the time to learn about the mechanics, and just give it a poor review, or bash things that they don't try and learn =) To me it seems like you, and other youtubers/streamers go into the game already biased with negativity, and then make a video about it. I think it's quite sad, and it's a reason why I always play games myself to make up my own mind. Issue comes down to when people have higher number of viewers, and keeping them from playing a good/decent game (not just gotham knights) spreading false information, or biased information.

[@stolensentience]

Calling it false information is a reach. Just because a system is obtuse and not figured out in the first 5 hours of gameplay doesn’t mean the reviewer is “spreading false information.” Chances are high many people didn’t figure that out until grinding the basic abilities, aka it was represented accurately. All that aside the game just runs like ass so it doesn’t matter how mediocrely satisfying the systems eventually become for those of you with low expectations.

[@joshalan5125]

I'm waiting to see if this ends up being half price on Black Friday. Considering that Guardians of the Galaxy was released on October last year and was then on sale for about $26 on Black Friday at Gamestop makes me think its seriously possible.

[@theoutsiderjess4869]

Gaurdians of the Galaxy was good so thats surprising

[@joshalan5125]

@@theoutsiderjess4869 It was good but it also didn't sell that well; at least not when it first came out. I think Avengers left a bad taste in people's mouths so they held off on Guardians. When word of mouth started getting around that Guardians was actually pretty good, it was probably past when it had its prime money making opportunities.

[@josephruffin6360]

Wait for black Friday, it should be about 30 dollars. It is actually really fun when I learned how to play it. It is similar to Spiderman Miles Morales play style with an Assassian Creed Odyssey fight style. Performance is spotty, graphics are great.

[@joshalan5125]

@@josephruffin6360 Thanks, I enjoyed both of the Spider-Man games. I'm also wondering if they will make some improvements to the game as time goes on similar to what they did with Cyberpunk.

[@josephruffin6360]

@@joshalan5125 I hope so, but I'm still enjoying the game

[@RevengeAtWar]

I got the game last night and played all night to 3 am with my buddy co-op. I’ve watched and read multiple reviews good and bad. I started to wait before getting the game decided to get it and I enjoy it alot. I’ve glitched a few times and crashed once or twice but overall it’s been incredibly fun especially with co-op.

[@mayonnaise3959]

You know what else is fun with friends? Fucking everything

[@Zoofa188_Qe]

@@mayonnaise3959 let the dude enjoy it. I myself wont buy it but he clearly likes it. Let him have an opinion that differs from mainstream god Damn dawg

[@notthefia9154]

Playing this game with one of my buddies and it’s genuinely the first time in a long time I’ve totally not cared about my sleep pattern for a game and have stayed up until 3/4 am playing this, sure there are a fair few bugs and the FPS issues are annoying, but man I’m having an absolute blast !

[@darthmalum6024]

yes, you enjoy mediocre bare minimun effort kinda games, good for you. now repeat the copium lies to make yoursefl feel better bout the purchase: only glitched a couple time , its fun with a friend , it ONLY crashed once or twice , and repeat.

[@darthmalum6024]

@@Zoofa188_Qe his opinion is worthless since he enjoys mediocre shit, is like a hobo who only eats trash trying to convince everyone else that his trash taste better than actual food = WORTHLESS and also stupid, and delusional.

[@CpsLock3]

"I'm trying to give this game a fair shake" is like saying "i'm tryint to belive my wife when the shirtless guy in my bedroom is just the "poolguy" even though we don't have a pool and its clear he was busy with my wife"

[@aceinthecole9872]

The level up points are actually given to all characters even without playing them. So really you have to play one character for a few hours to get some level ups then you can use those points on all characters.

[@aceinthecole9872]

Also the "shotgun blast" attack is the same for all characters bc it's meant to be used as a counter for certain enemies later in the game

[@SOUL_KROMANCER]

Honestly wish that the skill points weren't tied into your level system and making it separate to earn for only as the character you play as and not as a whole. Would've been better in my opinion

[@DaBEASTskull]

I’m absolutely loving the game despite the few bugs I’ve seen. The traversal felt a bit too slow at first but I’ve gotten used to it after playing over the weekend

[@blokin5039]

Word to your mother bro

[@ahgksi]

Honestly, i feel the game is pretty decent. Not great , but not bad either. With future optimization patches and DLCS , i can see this game become one of the most loved one and underrated.

[@vee1766]

It is. People will start acknowledging the positives in a few months after the hate trend will have died out.

[@kevinross3857]

@@vee1766 its not a trend this game is actual trash, what world do you live on

[@WHATaOG]

@@kevinross3857 opinions are opinions

[@lordlamontF]

@@kevinross3857 nahh this isn’t the situation that we had with saints row this game is actually one of the good ones.

[@simonlegosson7082]

I don’t think the low frame rate on its own is the reason people dismiss the game when they see the gameplay. AAA games are expected to make up for what they lack in creativity in technical quality. You brought up red dead redemption 2s frame rate as an example of a game that doesn’t need a high frame rate to be good but red dead redemption 2 was one of the most impressive looking games of the 8th generation. It still was very technically impressive. Arkham knight was able to look infinitely better than Gotham Knights at 30fps on a base ps4 and that game was built in unreal engine 3. Seeing the low frame rate and dismissing the game does not mean that refuse to play every game that doesn’t have a high frame rate. For many it may simply be a refusal to give one’s money to big game studios when they are being lazy.

[@BillThaPill]

Thank you for doing this for us! God send indeed!

[@MangoChunks]

Thank you. Did not want to have to buy it to see if it is worth it.

[@LordAbsu]

Nightwing’s Knighthood travel ability is pretty sweet. Probably my favorite of all four characters.

[@relptys]

Bro sounds like Saul Goodman💀

[@SwiftViper]

All those game you mentioned weren’t released during a time when 60FPS was feasible on consoles. No excuses

[@hidaian724]

All the characters are not even remotely the same. Their talents and momentum skills really set them apart. By the end of the game, you have 4 or 5 momentum bars and should be using them a lot. You can also clear the main story in 7-10 hours which is the best experience per time if you are in a hurry to get more levels. All the reviews have been overly harsh in my opinion. My son bought it and shared it with me and I have been pleasantly surprised.

[@wearelouder]

Thank you, almost everyone I see dogging it and saying the characters play the same, only talk about the main attacks. Ok sure they all punch, they all have ranged, however the skills is what sets them apart. They all do NOT have the same set of skills at ALL. Red hood is really focused on guns and crit damage, Robin is stealth/predator type attacks. He can string people up on perches and take out big brawlers with stealth attacks. Other characters cannot. Red hood cannot take them out, however in a fight he can grab the bigger enemies and grab them place a mine on it and then can shoot it to detonate it. No other character can do that. ......failing to see how they are the same. That's just me I guess *shrugs*

[@DonDadda45]

Funny how console players spend years defending 30 fps lock, saying it makes no difference at all. Now they get outraged when a game is only at 30fps. Make it make sense lol

[@lordlamontF]

😂😂

[@avarnanfire]

Premeditated crimes depends on how many enemies you defeat in the open world. Every enemy you defeat builds the crime meter (the red meter). Essentially, the more enemies you defeat, the more crimes you unlock. The point behind it is that you unlock more intel about crimes with every enemy you defeat. It has nothing to do with resetting the map. Going back to the Belfry will give you more crimes when you go back to the map...but that depends on how many enemies you defeated and crimes you completed. After you defeat enough enemies, you'll constantly have enough premeditated crimes to complete everyones Knighthood on 1 night each in about 20 minutes. Also, character progression is accumulated between the 4 characters. When you level up one character, the other characters also level up...alongside the options to craft better gears. Btw, the 4 character do play differently. Red Hood - timing your shooting will let you beat enemies very quickly. He is also able to grab large enemies and also do alot of ranged momentum abilities. Batgirl - combat martial artist Robin - full stealth. hes able to teleport above enemies for takedowns. hes able to use a bunch if other stealth stuff with his technology. Nightwing - all around fighter. hes able to do anything and everything but not as good as everyone else. His timed combat attacks are much easier to use, he has more momentum and is able to accrue more momentum than anyone else.

[@morrays1996]

Saying the the combat and enemy design is miles morales is kind of wrong I think. Because Arkham knight had enemies kitted out with gear and attacks like the one you was facing. Also Spider-Man just took Arkham’s combat and just added swinging into it…

[@firstpersonlooter]

I love the look and gameplay style this game is trying to do. It does look bugged, so I'll wait. But I can see myself enjoying it when it's working.

[@Funnybones30]

Yeah. I've finished the plot so i definitely recommend it. But maybe wait for some of the bugs to get patched. It's a good time though

[@Pumba424]

Probably gonna get this with my sister when it goes on sale. Doesn’t seem like I’d be happy to spend $60 on it but for 30-40? Looks solid.

[@SP73094]

Yeah it's definitely not worth full price it's definitely fun but I still play arkham knight til this day and it's a much more detailed game even though it's older

[@joshuasatterwhite9520]

70$ for us consoles 😥

[@dethmetalcoffee1731]

$89 here in canada, fuck that

[@damagedcatdad]

I got 10 Premeditated crimes and Knighthood on my second night as Robin... but i did almost every smaller (white triangle) crimes and had over 12 clues. More clues generate more premeditated crimes. So, I assume it depends how much work you wanna do each night. I can definitely see the game's flaws (mainly no dedicated jump button, for me), but I am still enjoying the game very much. Also, I'm able to interrogate 15-20 enemies every night, just not all of them give you clues. Basically, my thoughts after this video, I don't have any trouble getting 6-10 premeditated crimes per night and the game is definitely a worse Miles Morales. That being said, I'm happy I have it. Keep me busy until Crisis Core FFVII Reunion.

[@zyndustry]

I get the argument that “it’s not an Arkham sequel” and everything, but how did they manage to make the combat this bland? Rocksteady had the same characters and made each of them feel unique with the free flow system and this same studio made Arkham Origins which was on par with Rocksteady. It just blows my mind.

[@mayonnaise3959]

Exactly! Same studio that made Arkham origins which had damn good combat like probably the Second best in the franchise behind knight

[@tyleroutland435]

Gotham Knights is not that bad. I just beat the 3rd mission yesterday so far I'm loving it. The haters are 100 percent wrong

[@berkeydjh]

Was super fun watching the livestream, keep up the great work Luke and I'll see you in the stream!

[@marcusbullock2753]

First time watching your video you seem like an honest and fair kinda guy I like content like this. And you give everyone a chance.

[@black2wo108]

How, he really didn't play the game, if you play the game and then watch his review, he's so clueless and shouldn't be reviewing a game he barely played

[@TheSirAnthony]

I think I'm going to make a video on this one, I have been playing COOP the whole game with different friends and taking it kinda seriously when stealth challenges are involved and stuff like that, comboing takedowns is also really fun. I do think that if I played only single player it would be kinda boring

[@dogcatcher7041]

Robin plays very differently even early on imo

[@tomhstorey]

Looks like the type of game that is going to get slated by everyone so I’ll wait for a sale and I’m going to love it and wish I’d bought it sooner. Waiting for a sale 🤣👍

[@lastround2357]

Thanks for your hard work sir.

[@DenDGLegionhardhouse]

Great video as usual Luke! I do have to say the story is brilliant and I like the game for what it is yeah! Still waiting to jump back into Witcher 3 next gen soon 👌🏻

[@NatSoFun]

red hood has a rhythm ranged combo probably should have done the training. Each character does have a different playstyles you should as a reviewer do a thorough review. What you just did anyone could have done. Not your best review due to you being wrong about a bunch of stuff.

[@lordlamontF]

Facts I’m a red hood main and I noticed that he didn’t do any ranges combos there’s more to each character. Just gotta do the trainings and level up.

[@BionicBoom88]

This game is amazing! They are doing more updates and patches as well! So good!

[@scolioreset]

So they brought back the systems from Origins where you HAD to complete a few special objectives. But instead of using actual skills, it looks like you need to complete side objectives on the map… to earn the ability to glide, something that Batgirl can do in the Arkham Knight’s expansion… Again, I’m asking: why must she earn the ability to glide?

[@Revstarallstar]

Hey Luke Idk about the take on the grind. I do say that its kind of long but if you do the main missions which are easy & quick. You’re lvl 30. Im now lvl 40 on new game plus w/o having to grind due to missions give giant bursts of XP. Possibly people are doing it a different route than me which is fair of course but I unlocked a full skill tree under 2 hours no rush staying with the story & villain arcs. Also just to add I had fun with redhood. Upgrade that allows his throws to put mines on them & if you shoot them they explode with 5 landmines. Rinse & repeat no one can touch you lol

[@gogoarcade]

Yeah I'm skeptical about this one

[@SolidRazo]

The cutscenes in this game is amazing the choreography on the action and the story is pretty good I can’t complain but the gameplay itself just looks so generic as soon as I saw that goofy ass spirit jump and fortnite glider I knew this game was gonna be hella goofy It’s just a shame cause this game could’ve been cooler if it was more gritty and realistic and emphasize on hand to hand combat with a blend of gadgets it’s okay if it’s alittle goofy but having the gadgets act like powers? Yeah, idk that just never seemed right with the bat family

[@TrueGamer22887]

I completely disagree. The gameplay is the only thing keeping me playing because the cutscenes, world building and characters are so bad and cringe. I knew something was up near the very beginning of the game. Batman tells the sidekicks that the police are corrupt and can’t be trusted since Jim died. One of the first missions you’re sneaking through GCPD and hear two cops talking. They’re saying how this freak they took in did something awful outside of one of their kids schools and one of the cops says something like “I’d pay money to get some alone time with that freak” but he gets talked down and decides not to. These are the evil corrupt Gotham police? They’re making the morally and professionally correct decision based on their rules while they’re alone in the GCPD? It was just really weird

[@benjaminspicer5385]

I actually enjoy playing this. I’m always so busy and this game is something that you can pick up play for a short time and get something out of it

[@brandonaraujo2177]

You can definitely feel the difference from Red Hood and the other characters combat wise. He feels a lot more heavy in combat until you use the pistols correctly. Also if you do the perfect timing for the combos it feels better. He also doesn’t have times melee attacks like the others do. I am absolutely bias towards the game just because of how much of a fan I am when it comes to Batman and red hoods so I don’t hate it. However that being said I can legit feel how bad of a game it is, and for Co-op being a main factor it’s sad to not even see you and your buddy in the same cut scene. I could have waited another year for this game to be better.

[@mitchellgoldstein1573]

Love the game. One of my personal favorites this year. Bandwagon hate is real with this one

[@maxwellsimmons530]

Not for 70$ maybe 40 or 30 but not worth a next generation price.

[@Funnybones30]

Definitely. this game never stood a chance because Arkham fans had already decided it was bad before it even came out. It's a very fun game and i can't wait to see what content gets added in the future.

[@SpartanSwain13]

The more the game goes on the more I'm digging it. At first I was feeling underwhelmed but the story and characters are feeling way more different. Might not be a game for everyone but feels like it's for me lol also you don't just get 3 premeditated crimes a night you just haven't done enough in the world to unlock more for the next night

[@blakewilliams984]

I think premeditated crimes are based on level, I started on nightwing and had t switched until level 28 where I started red hood and then eventually batgirl, and on both occasions I got there knighthood challenges done in two rotations of going to the belfry first usually being 4 and the second being 6

[@johnryan3622]

If you’re a fan of the bat family you’ll like it. The only thing really holding it back is optimization/performance. For that reason I cannot recommend it to everyone. Even mid tier PCs struggle to maintain a decent frame rate. Sadly it’s a story of devs being forced to try and make something run on old consoles (was never going to happen) instead of focusing on new ones.

[@lordlamontF]

Yea they shoulda just scrapped it earlier on old gen would have been better for people having issues with performance

[@BabyGirlTiny]

I hate when people say if you’re a fan of.. I’m a fan of the batfamily and this isn’t something I like. It depends on what you like about the batFamily. If you just like them and don’t care about anything else, sure. But if you like them based on characterization and story, then this may not be for you. For example, this Jason is not for me.

[@saboite19]

I agree with most of what was said, but I do think the characters feel different enough at the beginning. Their basic attacks are the same I think because they didn't want to overcomplicate controls for each character, but I felt major differences fighting with Nightwing versus Red Hood (for example) almost immediately. It's not totally fair to assess them by punching the air lol Loved this video though. Excited for future game updates

[@mxcristian11]

I was really excited when I saw this game and it certainly has some serious rough spots and I think I will get it but I'm going to wait on it for now. The problem is just how A-MAZ-ING the last batman game was and it was yeears ago now, there's some big shoes this game has to fill regardless if it's not an arkham game. Arkham Origins was NOT a bad game and I really kinda expected more from WBM after that.

[@fallenagent29]

The reason Gotham Knights isnt as good as Arkham Orgins is because Rocksteady gave WBM all their buildings/layouts/etc to make Orgins and now they dont have that its pretty shit compared to Orgins cause with Orgins they had to sorta match what they had with this they had a brand new slate to work on and didnt know what they were doing as much as they did before. 🤷‍♀️

[@samuelbowden4206]

I genuinely enjoy this game I just got it and haven’t stopped playing

[@CupidStuntBoyz]

I love how when it cuts to him in the future he looks so tired and fed up lmao