Trying the NEW "80s" Flying V from Gibson | Is It As Good As the Original?

[@Trog]

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[@JokersWild70]

The Explorer, no. There are so many things that are off with it compared to a real '84 it's ridiculous. The V I certainly would be more apt to buy. What problem is Gibson having copying what was made back then???? If it's a tribute, make it a tribute and recreate it! Please tell Cesar they get a "fail" from a long time Gibson customer

[@Robert-w7p1b]

@@JokersWild70there’s a stack of things wrong with the V as well not a 70s v at all.

[@LowEnd-DropC]

Is the Gibson logo etched or a label/sticker?

[@HopeIanHope]

no

[@jameshughes6049]

This shouldn't be more than $1400. I would never pay $2500 for it

[@AvyScottandFlower]

But but It has the GIBSON logo! /s

[@benlogan430]

You can’t buy many American made guitars for much less. PRS, Fender, Heritage and the smaller builders are the same or more money. Quality USA made guitars are the prices they are.

[@Masterfighterx]

There are Epiphones going for $1300 and ESP LTDs for over $2000, so I wouldn't say $1400, but def not $2500, maybe around $1700 with how things are priced today

[@Masterfighterx]

​@@benlogan430 "Quality USA made guitars they are" then why are Gibson priced so highly? Because they def don't show the quality for the price they're asking..

[@michaelballard4095]

Correct. No way this guitar worth 2500.

[@JoeIWOC]

Absolutely shocking price point for those features, entry level stuff

[@jordanpratt3821]

Shockingly high without the shock lol.. oh well, would still buy it if I were in the market. When I finally do buy a v though it will be red like shenkers.

[@TylerJohnstonGuitar]

Guitar: 200 bucks Gibson logo: 2300 bucks

[@samright4661]

Well don’t buy it dude. It’s not for your cheap ass

[@samright4661]

@@TylerJohnstonGuitar Always clowns in the Comments section. Go buy a fucking Glarry or a Squier

[@ReinhartSchneider]

Comment section is full of statements like these and whilst I agree, no one seems to want to elaborate on what they mean by "features" or what should be included in its pricepoint. A figured top, whacky push-pull wiring configurations, robot tuners? V is a V as far as I'm concerned. It's got no pickguard which I think looks great and minimalist on a blacked out V and the pickups seem unique and only attainable in this and its counterpart Explorer (for now). You're right though, it's a rip. Knock $400 off and I'd consider it if I were in the market as the gentleman above said. The silver lining is that being a Gibson, it should hold its value well if you ever decide to sell later.

[@unionrdr]

I have an '83 like this built on my birthday. Had to have it restored, as there were 2 thin cracks in the body from sitting in it's case in Ron Zelle's trunk. Blue abalone fret markers & replaced the humbuckers with EMG's like Het used back in the day. Satin finished the back of the neck up to & including the back of the headstock. Plays real well yet!

[@Darth.Shredder]

I love V's and Explorers but $2500 is a joke. They're basically studio models or tributes with glossy finishes. At least offer them in unique colors or with figured tops or graphics or something to justify the crazy price.

[@joermnyc]

A tribute would have a maple neck, which would actually be more period accurate.😂

[@Darth.Shredder]

@@joermnyc Right, thats why I said studio or tribute. I actually prefer maple. It's about the only thing I liked about the Norlin era guitars.

[@AS__77]

Exact same situation as with the Explorer. Sounds and looks good, but there is no reason at all it should be more than $1700. It’s a V version of the Les Paul Studio with dots instead of the trapezoids. 😢

[@wilhelmtheconquerer6214]

Which means it should be even cheaper than the LP studio, since the dots are cheaper to implement than the trapezoids. These should be $1500 max, and I'd still consider that too much without the correct woods and pickups

[@The_Rude_French_Canadian]

I’d be crazy to pay 2500$ for a Gibson…especially with that glue sticking out the nut on that explorer. It’s just crazy to me someone would pay more than 1500$ US for a USA-made guitar and the quality check being so poor…I have an Ibanez AR-420 TBG and a Godin radiator reissue and both guitars are perfectly built with no mistake or any flaws…The Ibanez has a Jatoba fretboard so it’s the less expensive one of the 2 ( around 700$ us) but the Godin is using all premium wood and is made in Canada when it came out I paid 1000$ for it but it’s now up to 1350$ in some store because of the high quality they’ve upped their prices a bit.

[@TestarossaMusicista]

The price really is madness. A Les Paul Tribute costs less and has MORE features.

[@norseman61]

It would be “difficult” for a $1 BILLION company to get some alder for the body?? Next you’ll be telling us that it would be “difficult” for them to find the money in their budget to train their QC department.

[@jasonbates2687]

The price for these 80s reissues is laughable

[@leviathan_is_me]

They are saving the alder and other stuff that SHOULD be here for a run to either push for, or announce, Pap Het. This way they can charge over $10,000 for a true spec 80s model, down to the headstock angles and everything. I can see this happening.

[@ijumitzu]

Thats exactly what’s going to happen and the worst thing is they’re still going to sell

[@thetoneknob4493]

2600$ is insane...call me poor i guess but i cant see why this isn't a 900$ guitar. i bought a dean v for 89$ that sounds and plays great.i guess if i had money to throw away i wouldn't care what it costs. no binding no nibs no perloid inlays its not an expensive guitar to build at all. all you get for all that cash is that it says Gibson on the headstock.

[@thetoneknob4493]

@Mike Fu wear is all the money in this guitar? its not worth what they are charging. broke doesn't equal stupid.

[@bc454irocz89]

It's a V "studio" with no binding or MOP and its being charged "standard" price

[@sleevelessace]

Rather get the 70s for the same price

[@garytignor8512]

I agree, Those 80's V and Explorer, back in the 80's, ' were striped down versions, and so are these new ones! I love Gibson, but these are WAAAAAY OVERPRICED! But Trogly, you are doing a great job! Keep the videos coming!!

[@scottgarrett744]

For the nearly the same money I'd rather buy a real '80's V....

[@brentlineberry4098]

affirmative

[@JeremyTalaczynski]

I really don’t watch this channel that much and im not even a fan of gibson but I just have mad respect for trogy because of his grind and how much goes into each video, that fact that he uploads everyday is insane to me

[@andye3684]

Yes sir Mr. Trogley is a gem👍

[@duanewelsh5611]

Agreed, even though give him grief about Gibson pricing and QC I appreciate his daily uploads and he comes up with some very cool pieces!

[@Fractal_blip]

​@@duanewelsh5611 nice guitar. Personally i couldn't see myself spending that much on this guitar. A nice hollow body jazz guitar would be so sick at that price though, seems inflation has seen me out of the market entirely 😂😂😂

[@rexrathtar3893]

True!

[@OldManBadly]

Maybe the best $1000 guitar in the $2500 range. Gibson is a little too proud of their things these days.

[@nunyabusiness6691]

That is what this should cost. Then it should go down to 799 in a year or two when they don't sell.

[@gayrodeo]

Looks like a $119.99 Glarry

[@ericbgordon1575]

Because I already have an Epiphone Flying V and previously owned an Epiphone Explorer, these new Gibson models aren't quite so enticing for me. What does entice is my slight remorse at the following: when I was a teenager, I resisted purchasing one of the '67 Flying V reissues that were on the market. If I had gotten one, it would have been one of the best bargains ever. If I remember accurately, that was one of only two electric guitar models that Gibson was marketing for less than $1,000 before tax; the other was the SG Standard.

[@rocktorrocks]

These look cool but then I realize you could have picked up the olive drab flying V tribute for MUCH cheaper when they came out and spec wise these don’t seem too different.

[@ohmtronseedling]

frankly the Olive Drab Tribute in every aspect is a more appealing guitar to me.

[@GearinSuper]

I have the limited 16' faded Gibson explorer with dirty fingers. Man I love its tone. Thinking of getting the 80's Ebony V. It looks like the set up is similar to my Gibson Explorer limited, which was a great find!

[@RecliningWhale]

Love the videos, its crazy how much they charge for this level of QC. I know this is decent QC for Gibson, but that's kinda the problem... Sounds great as you'd expect, which is good.

[@rdmoonie]

The middle pickup with Call of Ktulu, literally so near perfect

[@YOSTINATOR]

I'm glad I got my 70s V & Explorer before the huge price hikes.

[@arondaniel]

Just for fun: the resistance of the middle pickup position R_mid_ can be computed as: 1÷(1÷R_neck_ + 1÷R_bridge_) So... 1÷(1÷15.95 + 1÷7.36) = 5.036

[@fives.]

Cesar and Agnesi best be walking around the Gibson offices like "Why are we getting what Juskiewicz got? What are we doing wrong here?"

[@TheUlesifah701]

Awesome guitar!!! Never had a V but I do still rock a Jackson Dinky and honestly out of all my Strats, teles, semi hollows etc… that Jackson might not be the best sounding guitar in my gang….but it’s definitely the most comfortable to play. Something comfy about 80’s style guitars! Love this show!! You’re such an intelligent dude and you’re a natural narrator/host. You seriously got it going on bro !! Much respect to you !!! Cheers from North Dakota and keep the awesome guitars coming !! 😎🤙🏼

[@jfoust7945]

Soon as you hit that bridge with dirt that thing came to life!!!! All of a sudden that guitar owned you bro!!! Keep that thing!!!

[@jfoust7945]

For real though, that thing has some crazy soul in it

[@juanmacaceres2702]

It is way to expensive. It is basically a studio but has less wood, and it costs $1k more

[@modergav]

I would consider if it was like 1500 bucks. But at this price point you can buy waaaaay cooler stuff

[@GothJedi]

Like what? Where?

[@thesnapperkeeper]

If Fender and Squire for that matter can get alder easily why not the mighty Gibson?Oh yeah,that’s right,they don’t care what we think

[@gew2309]

The pickups are great I would have it painted like the Hendricks V.

[@Masterfighterx]

They just shouldn't be $2500, absolutely *NOTHING* justifies that ridiculous price..

[@stephenoftexas6705]

Looks just like my Gibson V I have had since 1989. Mine has a few dings as well as a Trembucker. Played quite a few shows with it.

[@patricklemoine1818]

I'm becoming interested in guitar again after several years because of your show. Thank you

[@LostSoulNo301281]

I really like the Explorer, but I do wish they'd have used a different type of fretboard inlay. For the V I'd have liked to have seen it as a string through design with the smaller, 1981 style headstock.

[@mikecarbone828]

Salutations Austin! Much like the Explorer, this is an interesting Flying V, and it is an instrument that is configured to enable someone to do a variety of modifications to suit their particular tastes, I look forward to these being offered in a variety of finishes. This specific instrument has a very colorful rosewood fretboard. Thank you for posting these videos! Please have an excellent and awesome day! ☀️✨🎸

[@ericoswood1856]

I have the Epiphone Inspired by Gibson Flying V and Explorer guitars in ebony. They both play and sound great and the combined cost of both is about half of one of the Gibson counterparts. Of course, I had to pony up for the cases but these are still a good buy.

[@wildbill2122]

May I ask, how do the Epi's sound when you strum one un-amped ? I've only played one Epi in my entire life, and it was enuff for me.

[@clarkbabin9799]

A gig bag isn't worth much . A nice guitar should be delivered case included. What the case is worth should also depend on if the manufacturer values the customer and protecting their product. That's also something I often wonder about. What is for instance this case valued at or any guitars case that come with it.

[@smelltheglove2038]

The big bag that came with my “tribute” model Les Paul is absolutely fantastic. Best gig bag I’ve ever seen. It has backpack straps, super padded, it’s leather, it’s pretty quality.

[@michaelodria1986]

I hope Gibson fixes that over tightening of pickup screws issue to the point the screws keep turning. That means the wood holes are STRIPPED. And for the insane price of $2499.99 for the explorer and the flying V that is unacceptable! To all guitar players spread the word and get involved.

[@edgarmezavids]

My friend loaned me his red 80's V for sometime, I don't think it had original pickups, I remember an invader type in the neck but it was a dream to play, wasn't very heavy, and was so resonant.

[@snowdevil7727]

I had a creamy white 1981 Gibson Flying V, but it didn’t look like either of these. It had chrome pickup covers, those witch hat knobs, and an elaborate pickguard.

[@luthravin4774]

Great $2500 for two silkscreened guitars.. I’ll just keep my Epi “AMOS” and be happy the rest of my life!!

[@seanyiscubsfan1]

These look cool and I’d be interested in trying the 80’s Flying V and 80’s Explorer. That being said $2500 seems a bit steep for these. I really wish Gibson would bring back the Flying V Faded like the one they had available from 2002-2012. They’ve got a Les Paul and SG in the range. Why not have a Flying V and Explorer too.

[@markcampbell7554]

I really love Flying V's and I think this model is pretty nice but I really wish Gibson would offer a wider variety of finishes on the V's in general.

[@matteoziegler7632]

Yes for example silverbursts

[@heavybrett-al4082]

Jeez at that price.... Gibson could have at least give us a couple of colour options?

[@TM-ev2tc]

One of these days when you are reviewing Flying V guitars you should slip in the ZV Bullseye made in Gibson's Custom shop i think. I would like to see one reviewed.

[@Trog]

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[@lenniejosephful]

I have a white 2007 V with the full pick guard and truss cover. The fretboard use of, and it has the 490R and 500T. I was told it's a 67 RI.thoughts on that?

[@StringTension]

They are more considered '67 "style" than "RI", the RI are custom shop.

[@SnappyJCM800]

Wish they would have the more rounded headstock like on the Kirk model or the CMT version

[@ERiCtheBuLL]

I really hope they sell the 80's pickups on their own at some point. That bridge pickup is especially killer sounding. Would love to put one in a Les Paul of mine if possible.

[@matteomarini81]

Any comparison in terms of sound with the 70s FlyingV? I watched your review a while ago but I was wondering what's your opinion about the two.

[@nickfromnebraska]

I’m in the market for a Flying V to add to my Gibson collection. I would definitely be interested in buying this Flying V…except…no inlaid Gibson logo on the headstock is the dealbreaker for me especially at the high price point. They missed a sale on this one with me.

[@Kahuna54]

When will Gibson realize they are ridiculously expensive?

[@thorpenator9148]

Notice the Les Paul Standard just went up to 2999.00 from 2799.00. Crazy expensive

[@tomjeeves4830]

I want my 80s V to be in black and white like Michael Schenker's.

[@nigellacey559]

I cant see why theyre so expensive.

[@leftymcnally6913]

Nice shot of that '71 Medallion

[@MaxTheEcchitaku]

I remember when I bought my Explorer Traditionnal for 1299 barely a few years ago, and Flying Vs were about the same if I recall, it's crazy. That said, these days Korean imports can cost more money than a USA Les Paul Standard, like LTDs for example. I guess it's just where the world is heading. I'm glad I bought my guitars before this crazy price increase, cause I would not be able to afford them today.

[@jmj5150]

Not many use Gibson guitars anymore to actually play live.. It seems Gibson goes all in on reinventing the wheel over and over because only baby boomers and home rockers buy these antique models..

[@bigscore1]

I have an 88-89 v90, just a single hum bucker. Rare version; simple but still is a lot nicer looking than this

[@MrJermeyp]

Too expensive to be that different I mean it’s cool but for that price it. Should have the DF pups at LEAST , the headstock idk my 84 is one of the stumpy headstocks maybe I’m just biased .. the fretboard however looks IDENTICAL mine is the exact same light rosey streaked color . Idk this would be a cool 1500 dollar V .

[@tomleary121257]

I'm remembering back in 1983 when I paid $1,000 for my heritage Korina Flying v now the black one selling for 2500 I think it's overpriced ten grand for the heritage Korina v

[@Masterfighterx]

Remember to count in inflation of your purchase back then. $1000 1983 is roughly $3000 2023 But yeah, Gibson has totally lost any kind of touch with reality, these will def not sell like hot cakes as anyone would've guessed because of their price that should remain a far fetched dream..

[@BrentAdams]

What in the Heck did they do with that rear strap button!!!!!! That is a great looking rosewood fretboard. Gibson prices need to come down...or their quality level needs to go WAY UP! They have made a few improvements, but have a long way to go to match other Top Guitar Makers in quality craftsmanship.

[@faker6968]

The dirty tones were way better than the explorer! Now play baterry on it lol😂

[@petebrown3715]

Hard pass for that price and poor quality control as well. If it was $1300 to $1750 that'd be better.

[@patrickhall6674]

I have an 1983 V but mine has nickel tipped kluson tuners with reflector knobs...

[@slappyfist63]

I will say just from looking at it the first 10 seconds the strap button on the top Wing is in a way better place. That with a leather strap kills all the neck dive.

[@nunyabusiness6691]

So it has a different headstock, different pickups, and different strap button locations than a genuine 80s V but they are calling it a reissue. These seem like basic things you would need to get right in order for it to really be considered a reissue.

[@SDH2023]

Would absolutely love one of these. I’d put my fav DiMarzios in, though.

[@umami0247]

Smoking hot bridge but doesn’t sound that way actually. Doesn’t sound bad but the sticky fingers pick ups are better hands down.

[@wadeguidry6675]

It should cost more than a tribute but less than a studio.

[@StringTension]

They are the same tier as studio's. Production run USA V's and explorers.

[@paulburton5150]

The 80’s mantra was “Greed is good”. So in that respect Gibson has nailed the 80’s vibe

[@wildbill2122]

I got the GIBSON USA Flying V '70's Tribute when it 1st came out and it was $1999.00 and I thought that price was NUTZO ! Itssa MONSTER Guitar, OMG !!! The 70's Flying V 70's Tribute has Alnico 5 magnet pickups and is heavier sounding althoughj the '80's tribute Humbuckers might be Alnico 5's as well.....my Mac's Logitech External speakers arent Celestion Greenbacks by a long shot !

[@russperry3000]

Why is it the pointy headstock? I thought the ‘80’s had the stubbier one (like my ‘83)?

[@brianlacarbonara6158]

It’s like a tribute or studio version for LP standard prices

[@smelltheglove2038]

Yeah, they can’t all be winners, huh?

[@brianlacarbonara6158]

They don’t all have to be winners, but hey if you’d like to pay more for less to each their own!

[@gregoriyefimovichrasputin4931]

Only a Gibson is too expensive enough. "Only for rich people"

[@neilparker5079]

I watched this video shortly after the Gibson Faulkner Siignature “V’ & I have to say that this 80’s re-issue really beats the Faulkner on tone.

[@chiquetano]

It’s a flying v studio. Should be the same price as les pauls studios.

[@rexrathtar3893]

A lot of people posting here about what it "should" be priced at and invoking Les Pauls as if they pricing dynamics are the same. They aren't. This appeals to a niche. A core of enthusiasts for this particular model. I imagine there is more elasticity of demand with the LPs when it comes to price than with these. To put it another way: if Gibson dropped the price of these by 40% (for example), they would not see a commensurate increase in sales. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

[@duanewelsh5611]

Think I'll wait for Epiphone's version!🥱

[@NelderGuitar]

Make it white and ebony board and I’m in. As it stands, no thanks. No guitar finish needs an ebony board more than black and white IMO

[@freezkeer]

i still got an original, my first guitar ever, i got at "we buy guitars" on 48th st. in nyc back in the 80`s. it`s pretty beat up, like me, but unlike me it still looks & sounds awesome.

[@umbertoyltp]

Very round and rich pickup sounds. I'm not sure if the strap button position is an improvement.

[@Trog]

The original placement has neck dive issues so it is a great improvement

[@dimefield36]

I have an 87 with an ebony fretboard, paid 550 in 88, these are over 3k in Canada

[@ChuckNicholsonTRM]

The neck pickup seems okay, but that bridge pickup sounds like hot garbage IMO at least through your rig. Same goes for the Explorer video, so it seems to definitely be the pickups. It would be interesting to hear through something else, but I’m not optimistic. Seems like the overall value is about the same as a LP special which is priced at $1799 or maybe just a LP Studio which is $1599. This has to be a high profit margin guitar. Granted the Studio doesn’t come with a hard case, but a Special does.

[@Nizuma]

It’s looks like a 300$ guitar lmao

[@rbarker1706]

Wait until these start showing up on the used market. Some original owners will be shocked as to how little they are worth.

[@vansongs]

Nice fretboard

[@joermnyc]

I wonder if they are charging so much for what should be a “studio” model to cover the cost of designing the new pickups. Edit: I hope they sell the pickups separately at some point, those would be great for a partscaster.

[@eddiejr540]

I guess these 80’s tributes are aimed at people from the 80’s who now have a large disposable income to spend on childhood memories!!!

[@grantcindrich]

Yo

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Well done Grant, you earned a Silver Medal.

[@rodrossi9749]

These are gonna collect dust hanging in the stores.... WAY OVERPRICED !!!!!

[@leahcaudill6559]

Trying out new stuff is a necessity, but Gibson,has had plenty of time to get there shit together. And still be able to offer great guitars, every once in a while the custom \mod shop throws out , some super badass guitars, and please,at a decent price!

[@RL-jn7rz]

I love the idea of bare bones no frills flying v and explorer models geared towards metal but I can't justify spending 2500 on one. For that price I'd rather just get a standard model with nicer features and such. The tribute/faded LP and SG models are at the right price point. Don't know why these shapes are an exception.

[@keithclark486]

Should knock the price down to $800.00 for the simple fact of Tim Shaw pickups in them.

[@Steve.Cutler]

Way over priced for what it is.

[@jameshughes6049]

Evening all!!

[@ingot129]

That could have had Ibanez Gio written on the headstock and I wouldn't question it.

[@elamon51]

Woot woot Trogly's guitars 🎸 🙌

[@sixstringer3783]

Just way to much $$$$

[@hugowelti6784]

What's the difference between the 80's bridge pickup and a 500T? Seems like there is a lot of overlap. I hope they're not unpotted like the OG DF's. Yuck.

[@stu-j]

The paint finish is shocking! I'm a Gibson fan and own a few older ones but the modern gibsons fit and finish is horrible...

[@100DollarHeadache]

Joining the chorus of voices saying that $2500 is massively overpriced for Gibson's 80s Explorer and Flying V. If they were $1500 (in line with the Les Paul Studio), they'd be clear winners for hard rock and metal, compared to blinged-out imports Schecter and LTD in that price range. Although I just wish Gibson would bring back the '67 style Flying V. It was the one that was in production when I was in high school in the mid-00s and still dream of. The late 2010s and on version with the half pickguard doesn't do it for me.

[@FrehleyBurst9-1878]

Overpriced unfaithful recreation of the original. Once again like the 84 Explorer the 84 Flying V were made famous by the Dirty Fingers pickups and the huge variety of crazy cool color finishes so what does Gibson do? Charge way too much money and offer only ONE color. You can get an original for the same money and get a much better guitar on the resale platforms. I will wait for the price drop in 6 months or some to show up at the demo shop under 2K. Leave it to Gibson to drop the ball on a guitar they originally made in the first place. I hope Trogly sends the Explorer back for the QC issues and get's a better example. I'm just not impressed with the 80s tribute series at the price point of 2,499.00. Maybe a short run with Alder bodies and Maple necks and acurate appointments and Dirty Fingers pickups with more color finish choices and a price under 2K and they would have hit a home run but this is a strike out for me. I think I hear ESP calling my name!