Trying to FIX - Xbox 360 with a Flashing Green Light

Hi, this 'trying to fix' video shows me attempting to repair a faulty Xbox 360 console that was purchased from eBay. It has a flashing green light and a disc tray that keeps ejecting.
Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things.
I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series.
Many thanks, Vince.

[@Mo-pt2ml]

Vince : "I bet it's the eject button" Me *looking at 40 mins left of the 45 min video* nah mate I don't think so it's that simple.

[@BloodyClash]

:D Same here. But that would be like watching a Sherlock Holmes Movie where he catches the murderer after 5 Minutes

[@mlgkid1016]

Same with 60% of his videos

[@iulianaiancu8715]

@badassgamer 1996 Rares

[@bouabdellahghanem4380]

IKR XD

[@sandy1234853]

yea iv had this problem i haven't watch the rest of the video but in my cases its just a warn out pulley and its not closing with enough force to push the disc mechanism up so it thinks the tray has not gone in so it pushes it back out i used to slam the thing shut when it happened to me before i decided to replace the rubber pulley bit

[@moosesugar]

i would love to see you and elliot from the retro future do a joint fix it video on that cheap switch he bought from ebay because of how confident you have become over the last few months

[@slammedniss]

Stop putting everything back together and instead TEST beforehand.

[@TheBaregel]

europe population are bots

[@RicardoRiSkAmaro17]

@@TheBaregel That's why you are a descendant of one. Ironic isn't it.

[@TheBaregel]

@@RicardoRiSkAmaro17 maybe i descendant of Pharaoh. so?

[@Rishikplays]

pakaxc so don’t fight dude

[@jornthree8881]

only REAL repair men have the confidence to fully put together a device without testing it /s

[@MirceaD28]

Never pull by force the tray. At 27:12 you can see a small hole. That is to insert a needle to allow the sliding mechanism to proceed with the ejecting the tray.

[@mrtzarangamer1708]

I don't see it

[@GadgetUK164]

Excellent! =D I laughed when it wouldn't eject after you re-assembled it lol The same belt problem happens with the old original XBOX systems too. Vaccuum - technically the ESD police will claim that its high risk, but its pretty low risk imo. I've vaccuumed thousands of electronic devices out over the years and never had a problem. Feather duster I would avoid like the plague though lol - those things generate huge amounts of static!

[@Mymatevince]

Lol, I knew if the vacuum didn't get the ESD police then the duster definitely would!!!!! I think it was trying to 'troll' me Chris, working perfectly when apart and then not when back together. BTW I got an Atari Lynx (original version) the other day Chris, it is supposed to be dead so I may need your expertise on that one, I was looking on your channel but I could only find the Lynx 2. I am hoping they have a similar insides :-)

[@GadgetUK164]

Hehe =D Regards the Lynx, they are pretty much the same! The board is layed out differently, but the components are the same. It has likely got a failed mosfet transistor. You can trick them into powering up with that fault by wiring the ground (from the battery bay) up to the ground on the headphone jack socket. I think that works because the mosfet is effectively switching the ground line, and by joining those up with a wire you bypass that soft power on. Once it does power up, check 5v somewhere to make sure it IS 5v and not 9V (or that can kill other things). If the zener diode on there fails the 5v line can go up to 9v.

[@Mymatevince]

@@GadgetUK164 Thanks for the tips Chris. I will re watch your Lynx vid right now to see what's what. I would prefer if possible not to muck this one up as I was something I really wanted back in school - 16 bit in a handheld, when my master system was an 8 bit!!!! Unfortunately it was a little bit pricey for a birthday pressie back then :-)

[@Apk07]

You should consider buying a "Metro DataVac" from Amazon. Its an electric air blower that works like having perpetual canned air/duster, and works a lot better than a vacuum. You'd definitely want to use it outdoors as it blows very hard but its perfect for cleaning computers and electronics out. Its like 85 pounds but well worth it.

[@harryedwards8902]

The Compucleaner on Amazon is just as good and only £50

[@abdulhkeem.alhadhrami]

Just what the doctor ordered to cure my boredom!

[@chriswilliams9734]

He posted this when I was getting ready for work this morning. I was like well I know what im doing after work today lol.

[@cliffordgallagher4531]

I will Always have a Like for you brother! Really enjoy the Projects you get into!

[@boriskarloff4250]

You have the patience of a saint,well done m8

[@STEVEWONDA1976]

You can heat those seals up with a blow dryer or heat gun and get them off in perfect condition 90% of the time. I've fixed 100s of these things over the years. Unfortunately they can't all be fixed, especially if they were damaged from someone trying to fix it before myself or another decent repair guy like Vince gete's our hands on them. With that said I'm sitting on about 25 consoles that are simply good for spare parts only now.

[@samuraiedge3539]

An Xbox 360 tip, the red ring of death aka rrod is caused by the thermal paste. All you need to do is replace it with a new one. Also, e74 or any of the E errorrs are caused by the heatsinks full of dust or the paste. Hope this helps later on.

[@mattplaysvidya]

Not always the case. 3RL is just a generic hardware failure message. I'd not bother with any RROD models, once it's happened it's just a matter of time before it returns

[@robbiecarroll8757]

I tend to do amateur repares on Xbox 360. The green light flashing means that the disk tray is opening/closing. If it's stuck try replacing the band. I had recently bought one that would refuse to open, simply putting a new band in it made it work good as new. I hope this helps. Even just a little. Also, the heat syncs are attached to the motherboard itself as well as the metal shield, they are somewhat difficult to do. but with practice and the right tools you can get it done easily. Edit: I only watched the first few minutes. But my advice might help if you get another?

[@BloodyClash]

Yeaaaah. Finally Vince is back. :) Saturday afternoon: A Mortadell Sandwich, a Coffee and a Vince Video. Weekend - here i come :D "Yes - I can...excellent": Vince Obama

[@zelda180]

Now Every Time I See A Xbox 360 Open Up I'll Here, Hallelujah! Hallelujah! :)

[@sleevedapper9502]

What happened at 6:20? I was looking forward to some classical music...

[@Mymatevince]

I noticed that after it had processed. Not sure how I managed to skip that part!!!

[@happenstance7530]

I had this disc drive problem before, I don't know if you resolved it but the way I dealt with it was pretty basic. For some reason the top magnet that holds the disc to the spindle is too strong and sticks to the spindle when there is no game in the drive. That is what is causing the blockage and not letting the tray eject, so I just left a disc in the tray at all times and I never had the problem again. I know it is a pain but I could not find a way around this one. Hope this helps.

[@SuperRambo181]

I found it funny when you did the last eject test I thought the Xbox made the sound effect of saying hallelujah like finally he’s closing up the system for good lol great job mate god bless you and your family

[@Kitthn]

I'm not sure if anyone has aready commented this but this 360 is a Jasper Chip so it's about as reliable as the Slims are so it shouldn't RROD, Even the Falcons are pretty reliable but not as reliable, My Falcon is 11 Years Old and is still going to this day :)

[@Notpoop906]

If you buy a new DVD drive you can swap the circuit board over to the new DVD drive and that way you will retain the DVD key and it will still function properly.

[@rays7437]

I never thought of that 👍

[@jasejj]

As long as you buy the same model replacement drive. Obvious point I know but worth pointing out.

[@ray73864]

Also, if your fan is noisy, no need to replace it, just put a drop of sewing machine oil onto the bearings (requires removing the sticker and rubber grommet first), instantly cures the fan noise.

[@FennecTECH]

Earleyer consoles generally need more power. Newer chipsets are going to be more efficient and generate less heat. That’s how they solved the 3 red lights issue.

[@danielson9579]

I've come across this problem before I just used the controller to open and close the tray and Ive always found if you put something back together without testing you tend to reopen them 🙂

[@cdchase6116]

Fine Job! im inspired to clean n do maintenance on my consoles ...Thank you!

[@Notpoop906]

If you find one with the old blade dashboard DON'T update it or go online with it they are worth money because they're easily modifiable

[@FirstnameLastName-mr8lk]

I have one of those I think never connected to wifi because we never used it much

[@MyklBlue69]

And don't worry about the thermal paste. It's been back to Microsoft within the 5 year warranty period, probably for rrod so the paste will have been replaced. I still have 2 of those same models, both having been back to Microsoft and both still working fine to this day no thermal paste replaced by me.

[@Mymatevince]

Thanks Michael :-)

[@FSXpilot737]

Vince, the amperage rating on the back of the console, in combination with the power socket type and whether or not the console has HDMI defines what motherboard revision you have. Over the lifetime of the 360, the original phat models had 5 revisions - Xenon, Zephyr (these 2 are the primary RROD machines), Opus, Falcon and Jasper. As your console has a rating of 12.1A, you automatically know that's a Jasper console - the last and most reliable revision. Check out this link, you can find out, which revision of 360 you may get in the future: www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjrq5Kz4o7jAhUqxoUKHdgrAH8QjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fweekendmodder.com%2Fidentify.html&psig=AOvVaw12Mu3aJ2iYIuUOcv9DVEzp&ust=1561900353430444 Word of warning; AVOID XENONS AND ZEPHYRS. They're an absolute waste of time, not at all worth trying to fix. Stick to DVD issues with Falcons and Jaspers. As the console is a Jasper, it's VERY unlikely that it'll suffer from the RROD. That said though, the physical process of taking off the X-Clamps and heatsinks is extremely unlikely to damage the CPU or GPU and cause an RROD - put simply, you'd have to be trying intentionally to get that to happen. If you do want to go in and change the thermal paste, which is a good idea, I'd highly recommend picking up an X-Clamp removal tool. It's a really cheap tool that makes removing the X-Clamps really easy. A lot of people tend to go in with a flathead screwdriver, the issue being that if you slip, it's very easy to accidentally cut a bunch of traces - the X-Clamp tool makes that a non-issue. Check that out here: weekendmodder.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=60&product_id=119 Last thing, you should totally try RGHing the console. To cut a long story short, it's basically the process of soldering in a modchip so the console can run any software you want. It's a tricky but super fun challenge you might find interesting for a future video and there's tons of tutorials on KZbin - the 360 is far from dead. I've done dozens of console myself so if you want any advice about the 360 in general, feel free to ask :) I'd recommend the Weekend Modder's tutorial if you ever want to try an RGH. Again though, stick to Falcons and Jaspers. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jou1lqebbtN0qZo Give it a go! All you'd need is a NAND-X/JRP which you could reuse on any other console for £30, and a modchip costs less than £5. Really small and cheap investment for a ton of fun :)

[@billy-waynejeffcoat4828]

No offense but that x clamp removal tool looks like a waste of money. I repaste my zephyr Halo 3 Xbox 360 about every 2-3 years and when I first removed the xclamps on it I just used a small flat head and it was dead easy. Still just cause older models require maintenance doesn't mean they will magically rrod one day if you take care of it

[@FSXpilot737]

@@billy-waynejeffcoat4828 Like I said, while you absolutely can use a flat head, you run the risk of potentially cutting traces on the motherboard if you slip. In my experience, I also found using the flat head tricky when trying to get the X-Clamps back on. Using the removal tool made it trivial. IMO, considering the tool makes it far safer and far easier to remove and replace the X-Clamps, I can't really complain for $4. For me anyway, it was money well spent, but a flat head will still work as you said. Xenon's and Zephyr's had a manufacturing defect in the GPU itself. While performing maintenance will certainly help, in the long run, both will inevitably RROD. When considering all the work needed, like disassembly, reapplying paste and almost certainly a cooling upgrade (and when you also factor in that Xenon's don't have HDMI), it's a much more sensible bet to go for a Falcon or Jasper. Even with that in mind, if Vince does go for performing the RGH, Xenon's and particularly Zephyrs perform horribly with RGH1.2 anyway. With all that considered, it just doesn't make sense to put so much work into Xenons and Zephyrs.

[@billy-waynejeffcoat4828]

@@FSXpilot737 I understand a steady hand helps when removing those x clamps with a flat head but I never found it difficult. And what do you mean to much work? What I do with my zephyr is absolutely necessary for falcon and Jasper as well as Trinity and Corona. Thermal paste only has a life expectancy of about a decade. You need to perform maintenance on any modern console because they put out more heat than retro consoles by a fair bit. And personally if I was going to rgh a Xbox 360 it would be a Trinity or Corona since they are so cheap you can pick them up for less than 50$ and are easily more reliable than a Jasper.

[@FSXpilot737]

@@billy-waynejeffcoat4828 You're correct about needing to replace the thermal paste, that's not in doubt. It IS in doubt that a Xenon or Zephyr would even survive that long. Most consoles RRODed, at longest, a year and a half after release in regards to the initial RROD "frenzy" if you will. Again, you're correct about needing to perform maintenance on all consoles. My point is by the time you get around to NEEDING to reapply paste, your Xenon or Zephyr is almost certainly dead. If you need to open it up sooner to prevent RROD, then there's your extra work - it's just not worth the hassle. Why not just buy a Falcon or Jasper which costs the same, has a statistically lower failure rate, and can go for longer periods before maintenance? And I'd still recommend a Falcon or Jasper to RGH as they're cheaper than Trinity or Corona consoles and run just as well. In my experience, slims run just as hot as a Jasper. That said though, any console post Opus is a great RGH regardless.

[@billy-waynejeffcoat4828]

@@FSXpilot737 I don't know I'm just confused about the survived that long statement. My zephyr was manufactured over a decade ago, still sees heavy use and doesn't miss a beat. I think the reason they failed left and right was insufficient cooling and improper usage. Allot of people shoved these things in cramped entertainment centers and played for excessive amounts of time. They effectively thought they could treat these things like the generation before it while that was definitely not the case. I understand what your saying, if your going to go out and buy one you might as well buy a less hassle free one but I enjoy my zephyr halo3 Xbox

[@davesmith7671]

Had far too many of these in the past do the same thing but my problem was always only when there was no disc in the drive . I have several still in bits along with my original crystal and modded xbox original as you can tell I never solved mine :(

[@TheRagingWookie]

Awesome vid! could you consider doing some RROD fixing videos?

[@christopherbolis2048]

Vince, you don't really need to reassemble the entire console for testing it. It's a waste of time if something doesen't work as intended after the fix ;)

[@electronic7979]

Helpful video 👍

[@BlindGuardian050]

good work dude fun watch as always

[@RobertBaruch]

My Mate Vince can fix electronics with a Hoover and a pot of boiling water.

[@Jstark93]

You 100% have to replace the thermal paste, the chances of damaging the solder on the BGA is pretty much 0 and if you did manage to do that by simply replacing the thermal paste then you wouldn't have gotten more than a couple of months out of it anyway before the solder failed completely. the thermal paste that was used was extremely low quality and should never have been used in anything and is definitely dried up and theres evidence of this in the fact that the fans are spinning at full speed almost as soon as the console was turned on.

[@tsikriteasspyros3927]

The haleluya when it finally worked cracked me up real good :P

[@coclife9054]

Petraplexity HALLELUJAH!!!!!

[@crazytarga1195]

Hallelujah

[@the_game_cartridge9187]

Same

[@rbuschy]

As soon as you popped that tray out, I knew we were in for a show.

[@Winni385]

😂😂😂 done that before

[@FennecTECH]

@@Winni385 yup specialy since you cant replace these fuckers

[@TheRetroFuture]

What a lovely rug! Boiling belts can have a super mixed result. You had the belt gods bless you today!

[@tetenc555]

The Retro Future you here ?

[@Mymatevince]

Haha, I will let the wife know :-) Yeah the belt came up good, must be my culinary skills!!!!!

[@usagiakimbo2506]

Nice fix, Vince. The problem of not opening the tray is the classic "sticky tray" problem - rubber band gets dusty and a little loose over the years and can't overcome the force of the magnet holding the tray closed. If the dvd tray is sticky and you want to open it, never ever pull on it to try to open it, you will just end up breaking the front bezel. The solution is to tap the console with your hand just above the dvd drive, the tap will release the tray from the magnet and it will open. Also, consoles that are 12v 12.1a (so called Jasper) like you got there are safe to buy, they are rock solid and most reliable of all Xbox 360 models including slim. They will only have minor issues and will never have cpu/gpu problems.

[@RGInquisitor]

I wouldn't say never. My Jasper got RROD two years ago and I took very good care of the bugger.

[@usagiakimbo2506]

@@RGInquisitor It can happen of course, it's electronics after all, but dozens of Jasper consoles passed through my hands over the years and not a single problem with them other than dvd drive.

[@Mymatevince]

Thanks N N, I will use the tap technique in the future. I never knew about the Jasper so I am lucky I got this one :-)

[@usagiakimbo2506]

@@Mymatevince Hey, thanks for the great content man, your tenacity is inspiring, not just for fixing things but life in general, cheers!

[@RGInquisitor]

@@usagiakimbo2506 Its a shame though, but I had the console for almost 8 years. It was bound to fail eventually.

[@MrSrimera]

Curious to know why you always work on the floor, must be quite uncomfortable, surely be better on some kind of bench/table.

[@davepowell1521]

I asked the exact same question.... Vince replied he finds it easy!

[@GummyBearRacing]

I like working on the floor....

[@moderusprime]

I like working lying down. Just whatever works for the person.

[@Mr_ZPguy]

His back must be killing him at the end of a repair.

[@StaticVapour590]

@Shambles1980TRealOne Same here

[@DTS214]

Jaspers aren’t the only ones that survived long, I believe I had a falcon or something? It was 4 years old before I got rid of it, no issues at all.

[@pds8475]

Nice fix. I needed a break from programming a database, your videos are a good excuse to have a break.

[@Mymatevince]

Excellent :-)

[@MyklBlue69]

Haha everyone makes that mistake with the eject button first time

[@191matrix]

Great video Vince. Your patience is legendary 😎😎👍

[@The117th]

was anyone else cringing at the start of this taking apart witht the tray open, love these videos but cried almost thinking of my own 360 like that but yeah love the videos but be careful Vince!

[@Advocate005]

You make me less afraid to take apart my consoles to clean and fix them.

[@jakedrake3660]

i´m surprised it´s not a RROD considering it is so dirty and disgustingly dusty

[@thunderbolt10031]

This is a late revision of the 360. It's the Jasper revision, the last one before the Slim model came out. This model is as reliable as the Slim model is.

[@jakedrake3660]

oh cool thanks for the info

[@thunderbolt10031]

9600GTMAN look at the power connector on the 360 motherboard. The plastic piece at the top you’ll notice is split down the middle where older revisions have 1 piece straight across. The power brick has nothing to do with what motherboard it is.

[@thunderbolt10031]

9600GTMAN That’s because the Jasper has a more power efficient GPU inside going from a 90nm die to a 65nm one. I’m sure there’s other little things that were changed to combat the heat and power efficiency issues of the Falcon and especially Xenon and Zephyr units.

[@FloatingFatMan]

Vince, you really shouldn't fully reassemble something until you've verified it's working. Always just assemble the minimum possible for testing. You'll save yourself a lot of time and work.

[@Mymatevince]

Thanks :-)

[@ParagoneEXE]

Enjoy your vids a lot! If you like to use some more modern music instead of classical music for your vids (royalty free) check Kevin Macleod (incompetech.filmmusic.io/). I really enjoy his music, maybe helps you to make more video's!

[@Jdbye]

Vacuuming does cause static buildup which can damage sensitive electronics, however in practice this is fairly rare as modern electronics are pretty resilient to ESD. The ones telling you it's no problem have probably been vacuuming their desktop PC for years without any issues, that does not mean it's a good idea however. It's always better to use something that won't cause static buildup like canned air. I myself used to clean my desktop PC by vacuuming the inside and never had any issues, but have switched over to canned air as it's just safer. In short both sides are partly correct. You shouldn't vacuum sensitive electronics, but it *probably* won't do any damage if you do.

[@Jdbye]

@Kris Nicholson That could certainly be a problem too, but it's not one that's frequently mentioned, if ever.

[@imzimansvideos]

Video bought back nightmares of red light of death. Also had a 360 with the same issue the problem is when you remove the tray the alignment of the gears mess up also if you over tighten the screws tray lip gets stuck on top plastic you can remove the tray face and test eject without dismanteling just console face needs removing. But yeh test before putting all back together even when putting case together test then retest will save time. Love your vids vince

[@billy-waynejeffcoat4828]

Just remember Vince, if you swap the disc drives the disc drive motherboards are married to the motherboard so you have to put the old disc drive board in the new drive

[@davidotahal4365]

This work only on Xbox One, no? I never heard that you must do this on 360.

[@billy-waynejeffcoat4828]

@@davidotahal4365 this was definitely a thing with the Xbox 360s the optical drive was married to the motherboard. So when you replaced the optical drive you had to swap the old drives board into the new optical drive or else it wouldn't read games or movies period

[@davidotahal4365]

@@billy-waynejeffcoat4828 ok, but XOne have the same issue

[@billy-waynejeffcoat4828]

@@davidotahal4365 I'm not surprised, seems to be a Xbox thing, like how the original Xbox hard drives were married to the motherboard

[@2S2F1]

David Otáhal its on both consoles so modders cant just replace the disk drive

[@CrunchyKiwi]

Oh Vince you poor man

[@dash8brj]

Yeah the XBOX 360 is a pain in the ass to open, even with the proper opening tools. MS didn't want you getting inside the thing. They did good on that part!

[@philmcguire7346]

i worked in a repair shop 2 and fixed and hacked possibly 1000's of these bloody things, if the drive sticks you may get luck by giving it a little tap over the top of the drive to get it to eject, at this point pull the power and take the belt out with tweezers and replace, another trick is to put the belt into a cup of boiling water for a few minutes dry it off and put it back, works like a charm and saves a tear down for that kind of fault, still got three rgh slims i like to use for Lan partys and still do the odd kamikaze hack when i get called upon 8-)

[@xLTxVEGAx]

I recommend investing in a DataVac newer electronics have a good resistance to ESD but there's always that off chance something may happen. The DataVac can be used to clean anything and it's better than buying cans of compressed air. If you have an air compressor that will work as well.

[@IMDYT420]

I broke my eject button trying to squeeze it in you must of got lucky

[@thegeneralofsound]

I got my 360 3 years ago from a buddy, had the red ring of death and after taking it apart and cleaning out 5 pounds of dust dirt and animal hair it stopped the RROD and to this day it's still going strong.

[@fredackley309]

you cant fix tronix fix he is beyond repair lol

[@biohazarddream710]

You got yourself a jasper. The best motherboard rev of all 360s including slim. Should last a long time. It would be cool to see some hardware modding on it just for education purposes.

[@RGInquisitor]

Modding a 360 would definitely not be hard for someone like Vince. I managed to mod my 360 Slim Trinity when my Jasper died, and that was long before I had any soldering experience!

[@biohazarddream710]

@TheGamingChannel 1 Yeah not hard at all. All you really need is soldering skills, chip(~5$), wire, and a programmer (~20$).

[@Mymatevince]

Before these comments I had never heard of a 'Jasper'. So it looks like I got lucky with this one then:-) I be honest I know nothing about modding a 360 but I would be interested to see what can be done on it. I will Google it later and watch some KZbin videos to learn a bit :-)

[@randysmith7094]

@@Mymatevince The Modification you want is called RGH 1.2 you will need a Coolrunner Rev C and a JR Programmer.

[@RGInquisitor]

@@randysmith7094 I personally used a Matrix V2 and that worked wonders. It's far cheaper too, as far as I've seen.

[@RAD_DAD_2077]

Those older Xbox’s don’t like to open on the side only standing up

[@FireStriker_]

That would explain why my old Xbox 360 fat disk tray would open and close when it was on its side but stayed open standing up

[@MarbleThumbs]

That worked at first but I eventually I had to smack the top of the console to get it to open sometimes, I suspect the plastic of the disc tray had warped.

[@dan_k1992]

The only issue with this unit is the closing/opening mechanism in the discdrive... When you openned it up for cleaning, it is clearly visible that the laser and the motor were not closing up. So the disk drive doesn't send the signal back to the consol that it's now close/open... hence you get the flashing green light. If you are unable to fix the mechanism, the only option you have is to hook the discdrive to a pc, read the dvdkey out, and flash it to a new dvd drive to replace it.

[@dan_k1992]

The other thing is, you need to change the heatsink on the GPU, its one of the older versions and will cause RROD.

[@MrRelevance02]

Mine was a f$%@ing pain in the ass to open!!. I own three xbox 360s. That was one of them.

[@MyRegardsToTheDodo]

The Xbox 360 definitely belonged to a smoker. The discolorations are nicotin stains, part of the dust is nicotin residue aswell.

[@Tr4nn3]

It's tar, not nicotine.

[@KickflipJesus]

THE GOOD OL NICOTIN

[@Jstark93]

Actually, it is sun damage and the yellowing is caused by the fire retardant chemical used in the plastic. One massive sign that it didn't belong to a smoker is that there was no tar buildup on anything inside the console, it was literally just dust.

[@KickflipJesus]

@@Jstark93 Agreed. It would also reek like cigarettes and Vince never mentioned a bad smell once so I doubt it's tar.

[@moosesugar]

the older consoles i think are better than the new ones because they made quality parts and the assembly was modular so you did not have to spend a lot of money to mend them nice fix vince and you only really need to change the thermal paste if it had the yellow light of death

[@relaxxxrrr]

Yellow light of death is a hardware failure, a PS3 hardware failure. Replacing thermals does not fix hardware failures. It took Microsoft and Sony years to make 360's and PS3's that lasted reliably. Quality is not something I associate with any console, the are all made on the cheap. If you really want quality, build a decent gaming PC.

[@LoneWolf5841-]

@@relaxxxrrr the PS4 is definitely a quality console I had one that lasted 5 years, ran basically 24/7 and been dropped about 3 or 4 times and it still ran like new.

[@user-se8nh3yu1e]

My xbox 360 disc drive wouldn’t open either so I just bang on it to open it.

[@oggamer1826]

I do the same thing as you lol bang it on the top to help it open 😅

[@lukecesarin7266]

Hey vince. It looks like you have a jasper v2 model 360. The main difference between jasper v1 and v2 is the ram chips and the heatsink. Every thing else including the power brick is the same. FYI the jasper v2 is also known as a “kronos” model. These jaspers/kronos’ are the most reliable of the platform, more reliable than the slim and E models. Mine is running strong to this day! Live your vids so much. If you want more info you can go on Wikipedia’s “ Xbox 360 models” page. Luke Edit: Greetings from Australia.

[@doctorspicer1042]

Might have the same problem but I couldn't figure out what it was so I bought a new disk drive and well now it doesn't seem to want to play and gives just been to the DVD player reason for this because the Dave motherboard needs been married up with the disk drive so I've just got us an Xbox 360 stuck as in DVD players so I got a playlist of me trying to fix it on my KZbin channel please feel free to check it out repairing vids thanks

[@1up_Gaming]

Should be the rubber band on the drive, I've got a bag full if you need one ( not watched the video yet, just read a few of the comments :p ) Happy to send one over.

[@hamishspencer]

I'll say it again - a can of electrical contact cleaner would be better for cleaning that microswitch than IPA. No need to use expensive de-oxit. A cheap can from an electrical supply store will do.

[@chriswilliams9734]

A friend of mine recommended mineral oil or something like that. What do you think ?

[@jasejj]

Yeah the ProElec branded stuff from CPC does a great job for £2 and has the advantage that you can just douse it everywhere and not carw. Just as good as DeOxit for 99 percent of jobs.

[@chriswilliams9734]

@@jasejj I guess I'll try some of that then. Thanks for the info

[@SirJohndill]

99.9% of stuck Xbox 360 disc drives is a dirty, slipping belt and can be fixed without even disassembling. Oh, and Rule No.1 of repairs, test it before fully re-assembling. :-D

[@TrolleyMC]

Please for the love of god test things before putting them back together. You got yourself a JASPER board. Those don't red ring, unless you flash the DVD drive and fuck up. I recommend lubing up the fans and replacing thermal compound though in order to preserve the board.

[@dml1970]

Why do you always rebuild fully before testing, you could save loads of time by testing without fully rebuilding, just rebuild enough to allow testing.

[@stvgrz9394]

Really enjoy your console fixing video Mate. Please do more.

[@mrchrome5403]

i had this same issue with my xbox 360 a while ago and i had to use a dining knife in the top to make it come open mine was down to the metal case of the disk drive and plastics fowling the opening mechanism and in the end had to bend the metal just a touch and adjust the case slightly cant remember what i did it was over a year ago and then it opened and closed normally after that but dont quote me i had another that i did same to and it didnt solve it so not sure could be various reasons but mainly pc game now, But awesome vid keep it up Vince :D

[@jomarkwh]

When the tray doesn't pop, a timed press of the eject button and a fist to the top can work a treat. I cleaned mine out a couple of years back. It works fine now unless the tray is empty so i have to make sure i always have a disc in it. Now you've shown me that boil the belt trick i'm in two minds whether to open it up again. Cheers Vince.

[@Mymatevince]

Thanks, if you have some tweezers and a steady hand then you can get to the belt with the tray open. I should have done this instead of taking it apart the last time :-)

[@jomarkwh]

@@Mymatevince I believe all shall give that a go. Thanks

[@cflux1030]

Would really recommend some air duster cans for dusting. Perfect for fans and small nooks and crannys.

[@cflux1030]

@The retro gamer with old consoles im confused but i support it

[@RGInquisitor]

He needs and electric duster!

[@Dan-TechAndMusic]

They still make FIFA games for the previous generation of consoles because children, and people in poorer countries, might only have those, and FIFA games tend to be popular for those markets. They released up to FIFA 14 on the Playstation 2 for example (although it was a much different game from the FIFA 14 released on modern consoles). Similar is how the Wii is still receiving Just Dance titles, the upcoming JD2020 is still getting a Wii release 13 years since the console launched.

[@mattplaysvidya]

FIFA and Just Dance actually dropped 360 support this year.

[@Lastcookie]

Interesting still wii titles being released 👍

[@jasejj]

Very little actual spend will go into the latest FIFA game on the 360 anyway. A slightly updated version of the same engine with new team info and tweaked graphics downgraded from Xbox One version. It makes sense if they're selling well.

[@SharkyMoto]

i hoovered so many things, mainboards, cellphones, consoles, virtually everything that has circuits in it and i NEVER fried one of them doing so. it cant be that big of a risk, i mean professionals do it too, pro tip: use a soft brush to agitate the dust right in front of the nozzle, this gets the parts very easy very clean!

[@Josh.Davidson]

Great video! I've found often this happens when dust gets inbetween the pads that get pushed together when the drive is closed (at least on Lite-On and BenQ). So the drive doesn't know if the tray is closed or open :)

[@MrClavesin]

Unbelievable! Put the belt on boiling water really works for me, thanks to your video and that trick, finally my disc drive works as should it be. Is so sweet whatch how things keep working after of a failure and then get their repair. Nice work!!!

[@juusoe.4869]

maaan, always change the thermal paste. Literally no reason to get lazy at that point. new paste costs close to nothing and to open the whole console again just to apply it when you coulda done it now is such a waste.

[@justinjohnson1360]

I remember when I first got the white xbox 360. Like the next day I got the " red ring of death" lol.

[@McShave]

Wow, that's unlucky. I still have my original Xbox 360 I bought the week they launched which still works fine. Actually....I did swap the heatsink for the later version just in case.

[@chriswilliams9734]

Thats why I didn't buy a earlier model. I got the slim version when my original ps3 got the red light of death back in 2012. My slim is still up and running even after days and days of heavy gaming.

[@chase7974]

I have a 360 I bought in 2006 that still works. I swapped out the GPU heatsink so it would run cooler.

[@pugg5ter542]

Same but then Microsoft fixed it in 2006 so it worked again and I still have it to this date :)

[@thetalkingtie3662]

Hello Vince I have been watching your videos for a while and I was wondering if you ever do any giveaways because I would really love some joy cons.

[@johnday7362]

Cleaning electronic devices... the chance of ESD (Eltro-Static Discharge) from vacuum cleaner or dusting device to an electronic device is small. However, using these devices may accidentally 'charge up' your body with electrostatic electricity. This is what you need to be careful of. ESD discharge from your body is enough voltage to fry (destroy) any somewhat sensitive Intergrated Circuit (IC chip). ALWAYS wear a wrist grounding strap. Be sure your grounding source is actually grounded. Concerning using isopropyl alcohol on plastic. Be careful using IPA on plastics, there are some plastics used in electronic devices that require a certain amount of surface oils to remain a stable plastic. Removing these oils will cause the plastic to become brittle. Using IPA on mechanical switches (blade contact switches) is fine. However, the contact will still need cleaning. Any rough thin piece of paper will 'burnish clean' the switch contacts. I like using a business card, don't use a shiny or slick business card, they are worthless as a contact cleaner. Lubrication of metal to plastic moving parts should be a grease (molybdenum disulfide grease), metal to metal moving parts should be lubricated with oil (3 in 1 oil is my favorite). There is an exception to every rule, on friction surfaces that are normally vertical when operated, use grease. On motor to linear movement assemblies, be sure to put alignment marks on both the beginning and end positions on the gears that move for each movement the device makes. This will insure you aren't using 90% of your repair time trying to get the device to work again. I have 5 colors of fine tip permanent markers sitting ready for this task, but a white fine tipped Sharpie marker will suffice (maybe a black Sharpie too).

[@Mymatevince]

Great tips, thanks for sharing them :-)

[@dodgydruid]

Lol sat at me computer desk overhauling my Xbox 360 wired controller as its a bit dickywampus and this vid pops up yay :)

[@1000ouija]

Mine has never been open and it does the whole not wanting to open the disc tray thing. I just have it bash it on the side and it opens eventually.

[@tsikriteasspyros3927]

dont worry about bga fail on this xbox. its a jasper model motherboard. they never had that problem these ones

[@tsikriteasspyros3927]

@Kris Nicholson Research Jasper phat

[@djblackarrow]

At 16:08 where your right thumb is on it is a guide rail (at 17:32 right) that moves this black, sliding part. If the pin (at 17:38 right in front of the right limit switch) of the sliding part is not in the guide rail, it will not work either. So the drawer is tried to move out while the laser unit is not completely pulled down.

[@junglejonny1000]

I had to just replace the whole drive on my son's X-Box. I couldn't get it to work. You are amazing at everything you do. Thanks so much for the videos mate.

[@DKelevra13]

I have a Jasper based 360. Still works great to this day. It too has the problem with the drive not wanting to open, but it only does it when the drive is empty. I now am planning to boil my rubber band...

[@DLGNT]

Mine will start, then the green light will start flashing and it will stop displaying on the tv

[@kirbyfan18yt]

Vince my xbox 360 is a later modal so do you mind trying to fix it

[@MrJoebiz24]

Very entertaining video. Having repaired several thousand of these units from 2006-2017, I enjoyed the diagnostic procedure from a d.i.y. person.

[@jarnoorasmae]

It was hard to watch when you tortured that DVD tray 😂

[@karlclausen5374]

You sir are a wizard, congrats on a job very well done!

[@gparish6766]

I've been watching you (subscribed) for a while now and you, sir, have the patience of a saint! I love your videos. As a tech myself I appreciate your thorough troubleshooting and patience with what you do. Bravo to you sir! I would only suggest you get a good site for ic datasheets. They will show you the pinouts of most ic's. Might help some... Check out Datasheet Master. Good day to you sir. :)

[@sleevedapper9502]

Dusty consoles and dusty PCs should be blown out with a compressor, or by putting the shopvac hose on the blower hole (I'd add a filter of some kind for a shopvac though). Better than a static-y duster, and way more efficient that just vacuuming. Advice from a 20 year PC tech :)

[@sleevedapper9502]

And take it outside to blow it out.

[@rays7437]

Take it outside and use a leaf blower

[@hayden25795]

I used to love fixing disc drives on the 360 back in the day and ive picked it back up again after watching your videos making me believe in myself and ive just recently got a ps4 for £30 and its working perfectly fine now haha keep up the good work vince!! love your videos!

[@Mymatevince]

Congrats mate, £30...that was a bargain find :-)

[@PortlandMan]

My 360S has a solid green light, any help?

[@FennecTECH]

tray loading drives are a pain in the ass. i HATE them

[@emralcrewrblox]

The flashing light means it is trying to open the tray or the tray is open.

[@philsinclair]

Hallelujah!!! 😂😂😂😂

[@ProductionsByRayne]

use to fix up 360s all the time back in the day when they were worth something buy a broken one for $10 then sell it for anywhere from $50-$100

[@ProductionsByRayne]

thats also not the dirtiest one i've ever seen lolololol

[@ProductionsByRayne]

you also have a non x-clamp version which is good, the x-clamp was a terrible design it warped the motherboard which i can guarantee caused most of the RRDs