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Helsinki, Finland
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[@davecad]

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[@Tyrisalthan]

Kuuleminen ja kuunteleminen ovat eri asioita. Hearing is passive, that just happens even if you don't try to, listening is active, you actually have to pay attention and prosess what is being said (or played, singed, etc).

[@Susirajantakaa]

"People hearing without listening..." (From Sound of silence)

[@NotSteel]

Kyllä.

[@iipasyll5977]

Kuuleminen, ei mitään tekemistä "korvilla kuulemisen" kanssa. Vrt. esim.todistajan kuulemiseen oikeudenkäynnissä.

[@behgaming1]

Thats why teachers say "Kuuntelekaa!" and not "Kuulekaa!"

[@Icespicetoad]

@@behgaming1 teachers say "kuunnelkaa" :) greetings from Finland

[@RATCHARGEABLE]

Yes! Lintua is singular, lintuja is plural - so if "ei huomaa lintua" then "doesn't notice (the/a) bird", but if "ei huomaa lintuja" then "doesn't notice (the) birds"

[@RATCHARGEABLE]

In the last example the "kahveja" refers to a variety of different coffees and "unia" to a distinct group of last night's potential dreams they failed to catch 😂 but I'm psyched to see you back at it, it's going super well and your vocabulary has widened so much!

[@herrakekkonen]

It's funny, or not funny but a bit surprising, to see someone struggling with these. As a native speaker, these aren't the things I would have thought to be problematic. Hyvin edistyy silti!

[@Wilzzub0b]

Could it be that he thinks "lintua" is a plural since it's used when there's multiple birds, i.e. "viisi lintua". Cause in English it'd be "five birds" but not "look at that birds".

[@RATCHARGEABLE]

@@Wilzzub0b oooh I think you're right!

[@FrazerBriggs]

I’m 600 days into my Finnish Duo streak and still struggling to say a single sentence without mistakes 😂 we’ll get there eventually Dave 💪🏻

[@my.lionart]

Wow, that's a lot! I'm currently around 170 days into my Finnish Duo streak and quite proud of what I can say :)

[@Sgublaka94]

You guys are amazing!

[@Byibe_]

Rookie 15 years in to finnish lol

[@Kweentoos]

Väinö on velho

[@jcpana060959]

Lol

[@williamprather1811]

Objects of negative verbs are ALWAYS in the partitive, whether specific or not. In questions objects are partitive because their existence is potential, allegedly not known with certainty by the person asking the question. NEVER be embarrassed by your mistakes. We learn more from our mistakes than by randomly getting the right answer. Mistakes are just steps towards better understanding and full mastery! Sisu!!!

[@0Quiwi0]

Fun fact: I never learned the terminology way back in school. I still got 9-/10 on a test about them because there was one question that let me logic my way to answer most of the other questions :P

[@erikakervinen1173]

I'll never get tired of hearing you do your Finnish accent it's so accurate:D

[@NiiloPaasivirta]

You are actually very good! This is not an easy language, especially for native English speakers. Viikingit sanovat, että heillä on ikävä merta. The vikings say that they have an unpleasant fish trap. :D That would've also be technically correct.

[@baconeta]

What the flying poos 💩

[@artofstormdancing3319]

lol I really hope they count that answer too, that would require some knowledge of our fair language.

[@valtteri234]

Jep, en ees tajunnu =D

[@wombat4191]

A bit of dissection of this if anyone is interested why the phrase has two meanings. So, the main thing is that the words "on" and "ikävä" go together in a weird way, and "merta" has more than one meaning. "On" is a form of the verb "olla", which is the Finnish version of the verb "be". "On" can mean "is" (only for 3rd person singular. For 3rd person plural, just like English has "are", we have "ovat"), or "have" (as in "they have [something]" = "heillä on [something]". And in this case, "on" works for 1st, 2nd and 3rd person, both in singular and plural). However, with some specific words, the "olla" verb can kinda form a verb that doesn't include the be-verb in English in any way, and one of those words is "ikävä". So, "olla ikävä" means "to miss". With most adjectives it works sensibly, like "olla kylmä" = "to be cold", but not in this case. "Ikävä", as an adjective, however, doesn't directly mean anything related to missing someone or something. The best way I can explain it is that it kinda confers the feeling of missing someone, because as an adjective it means unpleasant, tedious, sad etc. So "olla ikävä" can be thought of as "having the feeling of missing [something]", but generally "to miss [something]" is way more proper of a translation. "Merta" is the partitive of "meri", which means sea. Partitive is one of the 15 grammatical cases in Finnish. Having 15 of them is one of the main reasons it's such a hard language to learn, and also a reason there are a lot of weird cases where some word could mean something totally different as well, because when there are 15 ways (or actually way more because the cases can be "stacked", and there are different ones for plurals of course) of writing some word, one of them is likely to mean some other word in some other grammatical case every once in a while. So, as it happens, "merta" is also the base form (nominative) of a specific kind of fish or crab trap. When you have some singular object, in Finnish that object is in nominative, but when you do something to some object (for example you miss the sea), the object is in partitive. Or in some other of the 15 cases, depends entirely on the verb. But in this situation, it's partitive. So, now we have a weird situation where the "Vikings say that *they miss* (heillä on ikävä) the sea (merta)", but also "Vikings say that *they have* (heillä on) an unpleasant (ikävä) fish trap (merta)". I hope this made any sense.

[@CardCollectorBros]

100th like

[@b_rabbit]

When you said "hover my mouse over" on "hiirtä" :D

[@giwu]

we who are learning Finnish too will defo not laugh at your expense. good luck for the progress!

[@joyfuldenay]

I study daily and want to quit daily. At this point it is full war: Me vs Finnish.

[@wandapebble4992]

As a native speaker, I salute all of you who want to learn this weird but beautiful language! You are amazing and I appreciate you so much!

[@TheRealDuckRBLX]

@@joyfuldenaymiten menee siin nyt? Opiskeletko vielä?

[@-vivika]

Your Finnish has gotten so much better! Those sentence is hard to anyone who doesn't speak Finnish. And even some of us how speak Finnish everyday 😅

[@idakeranen3805]

Well done Dave! I've missed your Finnish learning videos!

[@KolliOde]

Please do more of these. I enjoy see you progressing in your "learning tree"

[@1nsane1rene]

Been following you from the start and you've done so much process! 💪

[@Yoarashi]

Impressive! You should be proud, you've come so far!

[@Leijona15]

Dave trying SERIOUSLY to learn finnish, vol 1267! :D

[@CripperRoo]

Really would like to see more of these :) Keep up the good work!

[@larianton1008]

Dudeee! Your so good!! Im seriously impressed of your problem solving :D. Its insane, learning is hard.

[@wandapebble4992]

You are doing great, Dave! 👍🏻

[@artofstormdancing3319]

Holy cow man I am impressed! You are practically a native at this point! EDIT. And your Finglish is pitch perfect!

[@Arkkis27]

You are already really good at Finnish! Like the way you start to pick up words, find what is the original form of it and translate it that way. Gotta say I love these videos, these are so fun to watch and all the laughs I got are from you struggling with English 😂 It is just too funny that your English skills are getting worse the more you learn Finnish

[@Ghostiification]

Rouva is actually mrs not ms, that would be "neiti". That's actually pretty valid point to teach to people and duolingo got it so wrong...

[@skie66]

The title "Ms." is a form of address used both in British English and American English before the surname or full name of any woman regardless of her marital status (a neutral alternative to "Mrs." or "Miss"). So it's not exactly wrong to use Ms. when speaking about rouva.

[@allikatdreaming]

So relatable! I just cleared my previous progress and started over. Only laughing with you :) and at our own mistakes as well.

[@lobsterknight4165]

You are really good Dave! Epic

[@annina134]

You did great, Dave! :D

[@katin.rontti4479]

You are too good with that language learning thingie!! 🤩

[@mamAmojj]

That went very well!

[@valtteri234]

You have improved sooo much compared to when you where just starting out!

[@ghost_boy2581]

You're doing amazing! Can't believe how much better you've gotten from what i remember. I've started learning Japanese few months ago on duolingo and i've really enjoyed it so far. I'm not very good, but at the moment i can, for example, say: 私は英語が話せます。 "i can speak english" (Hopefully it's spelled right😅)

[@CardCollectorBros]

Great vid 👍👍 Very underrated

[@chrillzilla1268]

"Bekause" killed me! That was actual proof of getting finnished. Keep it up, i try the same from outside of finland. You are doing great! Heippa hei!

[@heidinieminen2811]

I recommend reading/listening some children's books. They're simple and if they're already familiar it's easier to understand.

[@rikurodriguesneto6043]

I think a pretty good mnemonic for the partitive is that you use it whenever something is the object of an atelic verb (meaning an action without end, as in gerunds, or "-ing" forms of english verbs; in other words you'd use the partitive in finnish whenever the equivalent in english would be of the form "-ing [something]"; for example: " I'm watching this video" -> "Katson tätä videota" [partitive]. If I was to say "I'm gonna watch this video", that would make the verb telic, meaning with a definite aim, in which case you'd use the accusative: "Katson tämän videon") or when there's an indeterminate amount of something. (edit: after reading the Wikipedia article on the partitive case, I noticed there are other instances, too - but they have a pretty good list over there. I guess in the case of the owl, the logic is that you're not listening to the entirety of what that owl is gonna emanate, it's just a little sliver)

[@icameisaw9308]

Damn you have improved a lot

[@pianoblacksky]

I have to say, as a Swede trying to learn Finnish, your language videos are actually very helpful. Tack så mycket! Kiitos paljon!

[@mikatanskanen6315]

Vi pratar svenska i Finland. Pluggar i skolan från 7e klass. Vet inte om du visste. Och 300 000 pratar som modersmål😊

[@pianoblacksky]

​@@mikatanskanen6315 Tack. Jo jag vet att det är så. Här uppe där jag bor har jag närmare till Finland än till södra Sverige 😀 Jag har alltid tyckt att det är lite orättvist att ni får lära er Svenska men vi inte får lära oss Finska. Det är många som pratar Finska i Sverige också. Inte lika stor andel som Svensktalande i Finland men ändå ganska många. Jag försöker lära mig nu som vuxen men det går väldigt långsamt. Olen ehkä liian vanha 😂

[@samstarba4569]

The difficulty of using partitiivi might stem from the fact that there are several different factors that can motivate the use of partitiivi. Some of these factors are mostly grammatical: For example, with verbs like rakastaa and odottaa, you usually use partitiivi although there is not a specific reason for that. Also, you use singular partitiivi also with numbers (other than 1) although, grammatically speaking, singular partitiivi is not a plural form. In addition to that, partitiivi is often used in negative sentences as well. However, partitiivi use can also be motivated by the need to separate completed and non-completed actions from each other. For example: "katson elokuvan" = I will watch a movie (from start to finish), "katson elokuvaa" = I watch some parts of the movie / I am watching a movie Or, in case of eating and drinking, using partitiivi leaves it ambiguous how much you actually ate or drank. For example: "söin pizzan" = I ate the whole pizza, "söin pizzaa" = I ate some parts of the pizza Because of its versatile use, you can practically see partitiivi in every other sentence.

[@jormayorccis1028]

Good job!

[@dvveh]

Great comments here already about the partitive case, so I'm not going to repeat those. I feel like you're getting confused with the way counting stuff works in Finnish, where you add the partitive singular suffix when there's ≠ 1 of given things (yksi lintu vs. nolla/kaksi/sata lintu-a). And yeah, adding singular suffixes, when there are many things, is a bit non-intuitive, but that's how it is. The other cases here are to do with the verbs, where the partitive case merely refers to whether the action is complete or not - in linguistic terms telicity, check the Wikipedia, it might help conceptualizing this. Most of the verbs in these exercises can't be associated with a completed action; 'etsiä' (to search) is not completive in nature, and thus the object is marked with partitive. In contrast, 'löytää' (to find) would be completive, and the object is marked with the genetive/accusative. Compared: "Rouva Pöllövaara etsii suurta hiirtä" vs. "Rouva Pöllövaara löytää suuren hiiren." Note that the latter would translate to English with future tense; finding something doesn't make sense in present tense. Other partitive sentences breaked down: - "Saari on lähellä Helsinkiä." Here the partitive Helsinki-ä is because of the preposition lähellä, 'near', which requires the partitive case. Note that this works only with noun phrases. The construction in the sentence starting with "Lähellä on saari" is syntactically different ("There's an island nearby" vs. sth being near sth). - "Minä rakastan tätä suurta metsää." As with etsiä, loving something to an endpoint doesn't make sense, other than maybe in a very artistic sense. Here it's probably easier to remember, that the verb rakastaa requires the partitive case. - "Mummo ei huomaa lintua." As noted in other comments, negative verbs take the partitive. This can be understood with the help of telicity as well - negative action can't be complete in a sense. The plural partitive for lintu would be lintu-ja. In an affirmative sentence the partitive wouldn't make sense, as huomata, 'to notice' is a completive thing to do. The correct affirmative sentence would be "Mummo huomaa linnun." or in plural "linnut". - ""Pöllö huomaa, että lähellä on kaksi pientä hiirtä." This has to do with the counting + partitive. With one mouse the latter part would bee "että lähellä on yksi pieni hiiri." - "Kaksi pientä lasta ihailee suurta puuta" / "Viikingit sanovat, että heillä on ikävä merta." / "Kuunteletko sinä tuota pöllöä?" / "Äiti kuuntelee merta." / Telicity, admiring / missing / listening (as opposed to hearing) can't be completed. This wasn't however an exhaustive explanation about the partitive case unfortunately, but hopefully this helped.

[@TT-_-]

Lol I just noticed that 'perkele' in the thumbnail😂 Näyttääkin ihan perkeleen linnulta... damn the birds and their partitives. You have a very good hunch about Finnish already, you are mid-journey from having no idea to *knowing* for sure. I was lucky to learn Finnish as a first language😎 I once knew the names for all those word suffixes, but school was 10 years ago and I haven't really needed abessiivi-ablatiivi-inessiivi-illatiivi since then😂

[@waffen80]

Huikeeta!! Love you mate! :D

[@Perkele_Itse]

Good job! :D

[@raikku_]

6:19 :D You are clearly turning into finnish person :D

[@inso80]

Also translates to "Are you listening to that idiot?" which would be the way I would hear if anyone ever used that sentence outside of a forest with an owl hooting.

[@Lecoqqi]

I loved your rally english 😂

[@ukkonoa]

You should do a live on discord or twitch, where we can help you with finnish 🙂 u r doing great by the way!!

[@stellastudio3260]

At 7:03 when you said the “mitä?” Killed me 💀

[@EdgarVi1608]

All will be fine, enjoy by learning it is better and more enjoyable than already knowing it

[@Nepgdamn]

I'm not a native, but with action verbs there is a difference between the nominative/genitive (-n) and the partitive (-a). with those, the -a doesn't indicate "some", but it's used to express that you are doing RIGHT NOW the action expressed in the verb, while the nominative and the genitive express a completed action [kuuntelen lintua, I'm listening to the bird right now]

[@actumneagas]

Sounds so complicated without the abilitity to 'just know' the right form. By the way your example kuuntelen lintua translates i'm listening to the bird

[@Nepgdamn]

@@actumneagas ooops I was listening to that part of the video and wrote the exact thing, my bad! it should be fixed now! but yep, the Finnish duolingo tree is pretty messy in regards to that, they tend to have a whole unit on a single grammar aspect and, in that way, it's easier to review a single grammar topic that you don't remember, but at the same time it's HORRIBLE if you start halfway through the course

[@miikakemppinen]

Did you notice that you have learned a lot so far? You understand Finnish. Next step is to start to speak. You can do that too if you want to.

[@jannemj]

Alat olla jo tosi hyvä rallienglannissa... Actually, you are quite good with your Finnish.

[@TheRawrnstuff]

"Ei huomaa lintua" = doesn't notice the bird "Ei huomaa lintuja" = doesn't notice the birds "kuunteletko pöllöä" = are you listening to the owl "kuunteletko pöllöjä" = are you listening to the owls 4:49 The Finnish partitive case doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't an entire "owl" around. It represents "ongoing action", and can be combined with a plural Subject/Object as appropriate. "Listening to the owls" is an ongoing, never-ending action. However, grammatically, it is also possible to ask if you'll *finish* listening to the owls. "Finish" in the sense that there is no more listening to the owls available to be done. You consumed _all_ the listening. (In practice, this form would be used for more defined tasks, such as 'feeding the owls' or 'washing the owls' or 'putting the owls to sleep' - things with a definite 'done' state.) "Kuunteletko pöllön." (singular) "Kuunteletko pöllöt." (plural)

[@herrakekkonen]

Finnish is actually pretty funny language, never come think about it. Did you hear a owl? =kuulitko pöllön? Did you hear the owl? =kuulitko (sanoisin ehkä nyt, vaikka oikea muoto olis kai sen) pöllön? I heard the owl= kuulin pöllön. I listened the owl= kuuntelin pöllön (eikä voi kuunnella enempää, as in I listened the record). I listened the owls= kuuntelun pöllöt, same as above but plurals.

[@elderscrollsswimmer4833]

@@herrakekkonen Well no, seeing as nothing happens to the owl because someone listens to It.

[@rempseaheinamies9414]

Keep it up islander chum. Edelleen, paras tapa oppia kieltä on vaan puhua sitä koko ajan. Siis niin usein kuin vain ikinä mahdollista. Virheistä välittämättä ja niitä korjaamalla.

[@InfernoRain88]

There's a video!

[@noobie.nailart]

Rouva is Mrs, not ms. Ms is neiti

[@mariasalminen7004]

Miss on neiti Ms ei ilmoita onko naimisissa vai ei.

[@JakkeLehtonen-Jagster]

@@mariasalminen7004 Ongelma on konteksti. Rouva voi olla mrs tai joissain tapauksissa, kuten puhujaa vanhemman naisen suhteen muodollisemmassa puheessa ms. Joten oikeastaan molemmat versiot ovat oikein.

[@kristiinaparkkisenniemi8680]

Excellent

[@mythbusters866]

6:56 Dave is so good

[@snukke5249]

This is fun, listening to some people trying to learn Finnish

[@TV-jn4dh]

Vieraskielisen median kuluttaminen on paras tapa oppia kieli. Peruskielioppi, sitten Röllin kaikki kaudet (+leffat) ja Turhapuro -leffat kun katsoo niin pitäisi kielen olla sijamuotoja myöten hallussa.

[@0Quiwi0]

Lisätään vielä Muumit sinne alkuun niin saadaan vähän yksinkertasempaa alottelijoille

[@tatuollanketo9701]

Very impressive. I think You don't really need to learn more finnish. I bet you can now just keep it up and you'll be just fine. Although I really like to see and hear you do these learning videos.

[@DW-ii9ii]

Growing up I really wish that we had learned more Finnish than milk, butter, and certain "colorful" words and phrases.

[@skyyv3n387]

The slow backaway at 4:09 is killing me 😭

[@Svartr.HrafnSvartr]

Terve - minä opiskellen suomea myös duolingossa! I have technically finished the Finnish tree, but I am still absorbing it and practising before moving on to other learning resources. Olla Hauskaa!

[@jussibusy]

Moi. Onpa sinulla siinä pörröinen, pehmeä kisu😄 Saanko kysyä, onko Svartr islantia? Kerron vielä yhden jutun liittyen kommenttiisi: "olla hauskaa" on sanamuoto, joka ei kovin hyvin sovi viestin lopetukseksi. Sen sijaan voisi käyttää toivotusta "pidä hauskaa!"

[@Svartr.HrafnSvartr]

I am open to learning how to say 'Have Fun' in Finnish that would be more appropriate than 'Olla Hauskaa'. My Finnish is extremely limited, but I try anyways at the risk of being wrong or not entirely correct. 'Svartr' as a name, is based on Old Norse... so very likely a connection to Icelandic as well. But I am actually a Canadian who descended from Finland on my mother's side of the family. Hence, learning Finnish is a way of restoring a lost connection for me.

[@Apollostowel]

As weird as it is, Duolingo has been better than some of the Finnish courses I’ve been to, where my Finnish husband has had to correct things that were just outright wrong. They really make it tough here to learn an already tough language. Duolingo isn’t the full answer but it’s been a help.

[@edvin8581]

You are so good at this. As a fin i have to learn sweedish. But im just not learning anything

[@EmmiPaijo-wp3tq]

You got it

[@auroramartell]

7:05 I felt that 🤣

[@jere.nurkka]

Using mouse to check the word for mouse

[@jansojele289]

I was learning finnish just now

[@lobsterknight4165]

Rouva is mrs, neiti is ms I don't get why it said Rouva is ms 🤔

[@DewelynC]

Yeah, had to check straight away had someone already pointed it out. Hopefully it gets corrected.

[@lucone2937]

On olemassa kolme vaihtoehtoa/ there are three options in English: 1. Use “Ms.” when you are not sure of a woman's marital status, if the woman is unmarried and over 30 or if she prefers being addressed with a marital-status neutral title. This title has become more popular and is now promoted as the female equivalent of mister. 2. Use “Miss” when addressing young girls and women under 30 that are unmarried. 3. Use “Mrs.” when addressing a married woman. In Finnish there is no equivalent term for Ms., just neiti (Miss) or rouva (Mrs.).

[@Gabigoth]

That rally english ❤😆

[@nikoforu]

Actually, after years of trying learning Finnish here and there, Duolingo might actually be the right method I was looking for. I think it helped I've already had a foundation and had a passing familiarity with the language. Where Duolingo seems to fit the bill are the bite size lessons based on my own personal skill level and, yes, repetition. Lots of repetition. I think Finnish has a couple of things that do make easier to learn than, say, Chinese. It helps Finnish is written in the latin alphabet. Pronounciation is pretty basic, almost Spanish-like, but more monotone. Grammar is different, for sure, but the rules kind of make sense. Vocabulary is very alien though and for me that had always been the real difficulty: remembering all these samey-looking words and not confuse them. I don't think I will ever become a fluent Finnish, I don't even live in Finland anyway, but I like the challenge and I will enjoy consuming Finnish media more.

[@Hanok1175]

i love

[@ukko9154]

The partitive is used like the indefinite article in English. Some of the verbs require the use of partitive. These verbs include kuunnella = to listen to (but not always kuulla = hear ), etsiä = to look for, katsoa = to look / to watch, rakastaa = to love, and some others. There is also a plural partitive for each word: Kuuntelen lintua = I am listening to a/the bird Kuuntelen lintuja = I am listening to (the) birds Singular partitive usually ends in -aa or -ää and plural partitive in -ia, -iä, -ja or -jä. Here are some examples: (Singular nominative, plural nominative, singular partitive, plural partitive) Koira, koirat, koiraa, koiria (dog) Kissa, kissat, kissaa, kissoja (cat) Metsä, metsät, metsää, metsiä (forest) Äiti, äidit (or äitit), äitiä, äitejä (mum) Hope this helps :)

[@ukko9154]

Some verbs also require the partitive only in the negative form: Huomasin koiran (I noticed the dog, koira in genitive) En huomannut koiraa (I didn't notice the dog, koira in partitive) There are also exceptions like: Kuulen sinut = I can hear you Kuulen sinua = I am hearing (as in listening to) you

[@marktanner8695]

I’m taking lessons in salo currently…. It’s hell

[@sixpackkorkman8069]

Duolingo started to alert me every day a few days ago for some reason. A glitch in the matrix?

[@aislauuttu4101]

I'm sure there are other commenters saying this, but rouva is actually Mrs., she's married (or elderly, and thus "deserving" of the honorific). Neiti would be the same as Ms. Also, the one about Grandma not noticing the bird is correct from the Duolingo side of things; the plural partitive for lintu would be lintuja, not lintua, which is, indeed, the singular partitive.

[@hepolaroth]

On day 199. Feels like I am using an easy bake oven to try & understand how to make gourmet food.

[@smileyfacegr6691]

i have a 200day streak on finnish and know nothing 😭 this video inspired me to study duolingo finnish more seriously-

[@Hanok1175]

we say he is there finnish is there finish

[@KonstaKaivarainen]

6:19 perfect finglish pronounciation.

[@ArchieArpeggio]

One good way to learn is to watch much of finnish series, movies and programs. Many of those are bit boring so to make fun of it watch cartoons with Leo. If you have Disney+ you can watch almost everything in finnish, sweadish and english. There are also optional subtitles if you want to read those words at the same time. That might help time to time if normal way of learning is dull and you just don´t feel like it. The way kids learn so damn well english here in Finland is becouse we watch lots of english series, movies, programs and also big thing as in my childhood all the games were english too. So it was very important to understand and learn the language all the time even thou we didn´t the language to communicate. That´s one of the reasons some of us have horrible accent. Never had to speak, only read and write.

[@inso80]

Funny, when you almost failed the English part after getting the Finnish part right. :D You are becoming a Finn pretty fast. :D

[@alluusio]

You are listening to "pöllöä" because you listen to only some of the sound. The sound is not finished when you stop listening to it. Same thing is easier to understand with reading: "Luen kirjaa" I'm reading some of the book "Luen kirjan" I'm reading the whole book

[@elderscrollsswimmer4833]

I think it's questionable which one stops first, the owl or the listener. That's another reason for partitive of course.

[@alluusio]

@@elderscrollsswimmer4833 Well, it is true that the owl can temporarely stop and have a break but it'll start singing again. For this to work the owl needs to die before you stop listening to it.

[@princeyalex2]

Okay, so the point of the partitive case (in Finnish) is that it answers "Mitä?" and "Ketä?" questions (that is to say, "What?" and "Who?" questions). As examples, a partitive would answer questions like "Mitä sinä kuuntelet?" ("What are you listening to?") or "Ketä tämä kuva esittää?" ("Who is this picture portraying?"). It's also often used to express unknown identities and irresultative actions. Honestly, the Finnish noun cases are a really complicated fickle-thing, so no worries if they keep tripping you up. Especially since Finnish has 15 of them (which, fun fact, is the third most cases in a language there are, topped only by Hungarian at 18, and Tsez (aka Dido) at 64), compared to English, which only has three, and only for pronouns. So yeah, definitely take your time and start tackling them little by little, and sooner or later you'll be a master. You've improved a lot, and you did really well in this video! I hope you're proud of yourself, but even if you're not, just know that I am! You got this, Dave. I'm rooting for ya. :3

[@Timonen76]

4:10 järkyttynyt ilme! LOL!

[@pelimies1818]

Yrittämäisilläänköhänkö hän on? Hope you make it to the next level!

[@tommiarvola7512]

i am from filand and i love waths you

[@azhathzel89]

Rouva is actually "Mrs."

[@lilianawolf6659]

Me, a born and raised finn: "No, you wrote that wrong. It should be more like _______" Duolingo: "Correct!" Me: "Oh...."

[@dokyduu7349]

I am from finland abd this is so funny 😂

[@dokyduu7349]

Sorry i mean and

[@dokyduu7349]

Not abd

[@ahtomogger9969]

4:05 why cut hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@SebastyneAlphaSL]

You've got a funny issue there, even though you're awesome at this... The plural/singular/partitive, which are difficult, of course, but there IS a singular form of words, of course. Aviomies, aviomiestä, aviomiehet, aviomiehiä, for instance. Husband, husbands, and the untranslatable partitifs that come in both singular and plural form... And they are weird to explain. :D I think you know what that does better than I do, but they do come in both singular and plural form. Kukka, kukkaa, kukat, kukkia. Katson kukkaa, katson kukkia. Minä ajan autoa, pojat ajavat autoja. But then there's "monia autoja" and "autot", "monia kukkia" and "kukat". "Monia aviomiehiä" and "aviomiehet". I'm no language teacher, but I feel like when we're observing the things from a distance, we need the partitif. :D "The husbands are here" rather than "the husbands are there". Aviomiehet ovat täällä, ja tuola on lisää aviomiehiä. :D

[@athmosperic]

Those Duolingo sentences are so weird! 🤣

[@Hanok1175]

finish not use where or he just him there

[@thebananaguardian_]

I'm finnish and l think he did great 😁

[@-vivika]

I started learning swedish in Duolingo, but it's difficult because only I have to know how to write it in swedish I also has to know how to say it in English.. there isn't swedish - Finnish.. only swedish - English 😭😅

[@Apollostowel]

That and it won’t be the flavor of Swedish spoken by Swedish-speaking Finns, there are small differences.

[@suupaltti]

Deja Vu! 😅

[@ChaotikPhantom]

Have you tried Word Dive?

[@anomalialpu4826]

I've finished the Finnish course on Duolingo. Now I'm getting more and more frustrated - I got stuck on so called 'Daily refresh' - which means you learn nothing new but repeat what you've learned by now. I've mastered sentenses like ,Maassa istuu lapsi, joka haluaa olla rauhassa', Puussa istuu soumalainen, joka haluaa olla rauhassa, or ' Metsassa kavelee nainen, joka haluaa olla rauhassa. Generally, everyone wants to find some peace. I'm fed upa and I'd like to learn more!!!

[@whazzup_teacup]

2:42 Rouva is more Mrs. than Ms.

[@lucone2937]

On olemassa kolme vaihtoehtoa/ there are three options in English: 1. Use “Ms.” when you are not sure of a woman's marital status, if the woman is unmarried and over 30 or if she prefers being addressed with a marital-status neutral title. This title has become more popular and is now promoted as the female equivalent of mister. 2. Use “Miss” when addressing young girls and women under 30 that are unmarried. 3. Use “Mrs.” when addressing a married woman. In Finnish there is no equivalent term for Ms., just neiti (Miss) or rouva (Mrs.).

[@artofstormdancing3319]

@@lucone2937 And we don't use either really. Maybe when talking to really old ladies (80 or so). Or in the military. Normal life, practically never.

[@JonVonBasslake]

Huh, I noticed that Duolingo itself made a small mistake on the Rouva Pöllövaara thing. Rouva is supposed to be mrs. since rouva is (typically) used for a married woman.