trying to save data from SanDisk Milpitas controller WD SA510 SSD

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@sulcusulnaris 5 ай бұрын

Some listen to a master on the violin, others listen to a master with a soldering iron. Both are great!

@NapierNimbus 5 ай бұрын

Still very fascinating to watch your work

@byAnArgentinian Ай бұрын

I'm been having lot of problems with GIGABYTE SSD units 240Gb, where after some little or not so little usage, the unit would come as SATAFIRM S11. What a bad experience, those drivers.

@hddrecoveryservices Ай бұрын

We used to see a lot of these when data ssds were more mainstream. That phison PS3111 controller was notorious for these failures

@XSpImmaLion 5 ай бұрын

Masterful attempt anyways... good job!

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

I tried

@kostasantoniadis5451 5 ай бұрын

As Rossmann said, do not fear making mistakes. And by mistake he mean trying, although you are sure that this will not work. By trying you become confident and you gain valuable experience FIRST HANDED. There is a big difference between someone telling you the solution with finding it out yourself. Great work there!

@richstarstar 5 ай бұрын

Do you plan to ever create a course(s) in data recovery? By the way, where did you get training from or is it you learnt bits and pieces over the years. Let me know your thoughts.

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

Over the years. We can do training. But I need to equip the lab for that stuff

@richstarstar 5 ай бұрын

@@hddrecoveryservices Thanks for your response. Continue the good work. Cheers

@AB-sg1vd 5 ай бұрын

I'm from Brazil and I would also be interested in training. Tip: Take online training, online training has no boundaries,

@AB-sg1vd 5 ай бұрын

@@hddrecoveryservices I'm from Brazil and I would also be interested in training. Tip: Take online training, online training has no boundaries,

@schimonyan Күн бұрын

Hi! I didn't get, what is the result of the experiment? Why moving the memory chip to the donor didn't work? Was the chip corrupted?

@Google_Is_Evil 5 ай бұрын

If there is actual encryption (AES256 comes to mind, common for HDDs) going on and the key to the encryption is inside the controller and unique per controller, you will not be able to decrypt/translate the memory. The only solution I can think of would be to have someone that that is capable of hardware level hacking of microchips have a look at this. The process will likely require a crazy expensive laboratory and a FIB (focused ion beam) microscope and quite a few donors to perfect the technique before attempting at an actual controller. Costs would easily go over 100K dollars for the first one and probably tens of thousands for ones that are exactly the same, if it is even possible to do this. Having said that, there may be some simple solution that is much easier/cheaper, above is just a not unlikely scenario.

@awilliams1701 5 ай бұрын

I wonder why they would tie them together like that. It seems like it would take longer and cost more money and makes it harder to fix if issues happen.

@pr0xZen 5 ай бұрын

From the manufacturer's perspective, none of these devices are designed to be repaired. They're low budget versions of commodity goods.

@awilliams1701 5 ай бұрын

@@pr0xZen it's less about repairability and more about data recovery. I wouldn't risk using a device that failed and was repaired.

@pr0xZen 5 ай бұрын

@@awilliams1701 I didn't specify that, but I meant to express that ease of data recovery is included in that "repaired" and priorities. Afsik statistically, the vast majority of cases of data recovery, _are_ done by repairing the drive (including use of donors and transplants). A lot of modern drives and devices do something _like_ this or other solutions to similar effects (usually pairing one or more components to eachother, like CPU+Nand+Firmware chips, or nand+controller), for security reasons. To _ prevent_ unauthorized access to data protected by controller-level security features, by sidestepping the protection by transplanting the nand, platters or controller with a donor. To most storage and device manufacturers, preventing unauthorized access is far, far more of a priority than facilitating data recovery. If you hold that concern you express, you _really _*_REALLY_* shouldn't be relying on potential data recovery for your data integrity. Regardless of what kind, grade or priceclass of drive. Ability to recover is never guaranteed. Even if in this particular instance, a controller swap would work, damage could have been to the nand. You need to have important data on more than one drive, _type_ of hutdrive, and geographical location .

@Timpano_Francesco_Repairs 4 ай бұрын

Nice try, it's importa to try beacouse of you increase ypur experience thanks for sharing with us bye Francesco timpano from Florence Italy

@hddrecoveryservices 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@deathtrap1976 5 ай бұрын

so we're stuck on same old problems like slightly different controllers and firmwares like HDD's boards

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

Pretty much

@Imnotimportant555 5 ай бұрын

I have one of these ssds and its failed on me. From what i can find its a firmware issue. I have been trying to find someone who can possibly recover my data on it.

@drobotk 5 ай бұрын

You said you would put timestamps in the description

@kyiscray 5 ай бұрын

Hi, sorry to ask this but i have a 1tb ST1000DM003-9YN162-500 SN S1D3H7EZ with the firmware CC4B, and the board 100664987 REV B that sounds normal, but never gets detected. Ive tried using different sata ports and cables and nothing works. When it first stopped working i noticed that when i tried opening a folder it said a device which does not exist was specified. It died while i was away and it was running. Do you think that some of the sata filter capacitors on the data lines might have broke open? Or should i just replace the board and swap the bios chip? Thank you

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

The board is not an issue if your drive spins. If you need the data, your best bet is to get a shop to do it. We can help but it needs to be shipped in

@Vladimir-hq1ne 5 ай бұрын

Thank you, this video exemplifues WHEN and WHY you need to use j-tip! Thank you!

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

You're very welcome!

@krzbrew 5 ай бұрын

What are these two smaller soldering irons? Is it like a separate tool?

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

Soldering tweezers bro.

@ToomsDotDk 5 ай бұрын

most ssd has self fixed function in the firmware so if it detect an issue then it will fix it self, i am in forensics an see often sdd disk that will not detect at all then i leave them poweron for 24 hours or so then they offen start working normal again.. Think what it is you see here, so always just start give the disk power for an number of hours and see if it not recover from the self fixing function.

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately it is not in this case

@tristankordek 5 ай бұрын

What the heck is that? It's the first time I see an integrated circuit with two rows of leads/pins on one side 🤯

@pr0xZen 5 ай бұрын

Small footprint but still cheaper production and assembly than straight bga.

@MutayebZargar 5 ай бұрын

Nice 👍

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

Thanks ✌

@chasingcapsaicin 5 ай бұрын

Why not a chip of raw read, store it away for if/when the utility's are developed.

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

Reading in raw form is not possible without tons of errors with current tools. Maybe in the future there will be a better way to obtain physical image from NANDs

@ronlevin2339 5 ай бұрын

controller is serialized to the NAND chip ?

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

it has to be, I don't see how else they are not swappable

@ronlevin2339 5 ай бұрын

@@hddrecoveryservices same sh**t as in smartphones, there at least serial can be copied from old to a new NAND

@ravindraadapa2952 5 ай бұрын

Hi bro i need a little help and suggestion regarding hgst laptop hdd 1tb even if the platter has scratches can we retrieve the data and without spinning drive hdd how disk platters scratched if possible please reply to doubt s

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

we would only explain work and teach classes for platter damage for a large fee in lab. Platter damage recovery is very expensive work because only a few labs in North America are actually capable of even doing it. In the summer we will have 5 spots available and there will be a video for start of the class dates.

@tweaktv671 4 ай бұрын

Does WD SA510 has Dram Cache?

@gabrielferrazdetetivehardware Ай бұрын

No, it`s DRAM-Less, that milpitas controller is a fucking garbage, 2-channel that is sometimes even used in flash drives. @HDD Recovery Services one reason for this low success rate, check if both flashs are the same, usually those drives come loaded with Kioxia BICS5 TLC or QLC

@carlosausejo5809 5 ай бұрын

Hi ERICK I am a follower of yours, could you give me a piece of advice it is that when I change the toshiba 2.5 heads I can never get data, I am using MRT and unfortunately I can never get data the model is an MQ04... you will have some solution please, and I would also like you to show me please thank you I am from PERU

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

I am not really sure what your question is. Headswaps as long as heads are compatible should not be problematic on these

@Grevan-Recuperacao-de-Dados 5 ай бұрын

ERKIN 😊

@carlosausejo5809 5 ай бұрын

Ok I always change with compatible heads but in the end I don't get data because the plate starts to click, as you know they are comparable@@hddrecoveryservices

@rosariodagosto6484 5 ай бұрын

Wd. Sa 510. Are. They. Good. Quality. Im. Looking. For. Some. Ssd. Large. Type. For. Backups. Recomend. Some. Please. Thanks. Bro. ,...cus.....

@hddrecoveryservices 5 ай бұрын

no, they are not good quality. There is no reliable SSD that I can recommend, Rosario. Best bet is to get a CMR hard drive

@rosariodagosto6484 5 ай бұрын

@@hddrecoveryservices thanks. Bro

@reinekewf7987 5 ай бұрын

i curios about that. i only use cheap ssd and on my pc there never failed one one drive had a on time of 40.000h and was written way beyond it was designt for. maby this is because it was a mlc drive with only 60gb and used 8 nand chips on that board. on my server they fail frequently due the permanent read and write stress at full speed. but also this are only cheap sata drives in a raid 10 configuration so this does not really bother me because i dont care about recovery, all stored data is volatile and temporarily. all data that is from value is stored on a separate array drives in raid 1 and dont stay on that for long. after the analyses is done all saved data gets be written on a external hdd and then a backup of that. they only purpose for that ssd is do be fast and sata ssd are extremely cheap compared to sas 6gbit ssd drives and if you want 12gbit sas drives you need much more money as this is worth. i do ai stuff and handle big datasets in the range of 2tb to 5tb and my system has 4 cpus with 22cores each and a total if 1.5tb ram, so having 8 ssd as a raid 10 makes sense given the fact my system can handle a gigantic throughput. one ssd usually holds up to 1 year some times 1.5 years. and spending in that time 35€ to 60€ per drive seams ok. a sas6g drive cost about 10 times much and would only last at this rate only 2.5 to 4 years and if i would buy a sas12g drive this nearly doubles the price of the sas6g drives and would lead to a earlier failure because i can access data even faster and they get twice as hot wich is bad again. so jea for my use case cheap sata drives it is. also smart tells you if things beginning to go bad this is what every drive has and it is good enough. yea the smart on sas is way better and can be redden by the raid controller in real time but smart can also be redden by the os and if you monitoring them daily you see hat happen and can order new drives and change them if one drive fails. normally you see this 2 to 3 weeks prior if a drive begins to break. this is a rare use case i know but for personal systems i dont think they will break easily if being cooled by a bit air and dont floating around in the case.