TRYING TO STAN THE MUSIC OF ENCANTO!

[@waywardwatcher2053]

Fun fact: The strong older sister character didn’t have much depth to her until Lin Manuel Miranda, the song writer, saw his older sister in her and wrote surface pressure

[@casa.derosa]

Could you send me the link where he talked about it

[@asterdelaluna]

Isn’t Isabella the oldest and she sings What Else Can I Do but Luisa sings Surface Pressure and she’s the middle child?

[@emrys7674]

@@asterdelaluna yeah, they just said older. i feel like it handles both

[@PuddingPepzi]

@@asterdelaluna luisa is the oldest, mirabel is the middle and isabella is the youngest

[@Biittle]

Mirabel was the last one to have a gift ceremony so she is the youngest out of the sisters.

[@waynerees9355]

To answer the question "why the titanic" I'm pretty sure that it's because it was "the ship that can't sink" and she's the sister who can't break.

[@andreas.4764]

I think it’s because the bulk of the most dangerous icebergs are below the surface - So, from the ship it looks like a little ice, but under the surface there’s a massive, crushing piece of ice that can sink the unsinkable ship.

[@OpposingPony]

Someone in another comment section mentioned the line about the titanic not avoiding the iceberg, like the family doesn't avoid these issues they have and Luisa bears the brunt of a lot of it.

[@irisleli5151]

@@OpposingPony yeah i understood it has people know she can take it so they completely diregard the size of the problem or even the fact that there is a problem, they just think : "luisa's gonna take care of it, don't worry about the danger she will save you anyway"

[@jennifer7685]

Because they saw the ice berg, and said “we’re indestructible, full speed ahead”. They were callous, because of their expectations.

[@latifak7349]

It’s interesting how different people interpret a scene. I took it as, just like the ship knew if it kept going the way it did it would break, Louisa knows that if she keeps going then she’ll eventually break too. Even though both the ship and Louisa know this, they keep going as people see them as unbreakable and they don’t want to disappoint them.

[@unluckylandon]

"Ooh, is grandma a dick??!" Had me rolling with laughter

[@luisegene2023]

Personally my favorite was, “oh so The Incredibles without government interference? I fuck with that!”

[@Nickferal]

Well, she is like in the top 50% les dick-ish abuelas... Yes, she's pretty average... For a latina abuela. I've seen how grandparents screw up in many families ... But we manage to mend and heal intergenerational trauma

[@riduanaqil1452]

Lmao

[@christopherxgordon]

When he said that, I audibly responded to my tv "yep!". 😂

[@Victor-nr2so]

I knew I wasn’t the only one😭😭😭

[@birubu]

I feel Dos Orugitas loses 50% of its effect without the flashback. It gives context to the song itself, since rather that straight up describing what happens on screen, the song’s lyrics are a metaphor to the flashback’s story

[@oowaycousin3087]

absolutely, that part broke me.

[@Bracketmeister]

I was sat alone, crying in a cinema during that flashback, good god, it was emotional.

[@fabledlight908]

I feel like Dos Oruguitas sucks when it's in english. (like in the flashback.)

[@gabbo2205]

That is the suffering from millions of Colombians victims of violence. As a Colombian i really felt the pain of abuelita in that scene, and i know I’m speaking for almost all of my fellow Colombians that watched it. It just heartbreaking and frustrating because it is still happening

[@fabledlight908]

@@gabbo2205 honestly it's a pretty widespread thing over Latin america, La violenca is one, but the dirty war.. Etcetera.. If you search up Operation Condor, that tends to be the biggest interconnecting operation. It's awful how much violence our countries went through.

[@StolenSpring]

For me, in Luisa's song, it was the verse "Give it to your sister, it doesn't hurt, and see if she can handle every family burden. Watch her buckle and bend but never break...no mistakes" Is what I really lost it at.

[@saphcal]

yup i cry every single time at that part.

[@janjeikobu5163]

i break down at "give it to your sister and never wonder if the same pressure would have pulled you under", right in the fucking feels as the eldest

[@zephyrstrife4668]

That whole song hits home, this movie is one that brings attention to an oft-ignored part of the family dynamic

[@chriswedemann8599]

I stopped hearing “Her” and internally said “Him”. The oldest of several siblings, the oldest of nearly thirty cousins. The only thing I have going for me is my strength. Yeah. It was a little personal. I felt understood.

[@madisonm.4535]

Yeah. Me too. I really feel it.

[@riotto1802]

The fun part about Mirabel is that she is so skilled in various things, but because she doesn't have a gift all her talents are overlooked. She can play accordian, she can sing, she can parkour, she can heal people through listening, she's good with kids, she can embroider and sew, she's amazingly TALENTED

[@urarakasupremecist5671]

Right like... she's got so many skills that would help out a hell of a lot of people, but she stays mainly in the house. And I know it's because everyone can do things magically, but damn. Her skill blows me away and it's so overshadowed

[@nataly-ct8gh]

yes, everyone around town seems to care so much for her, especially the kids, her family is so focused on helping around I think she really deals with the emotional side of helping, she's the one we see actually interact with people beyond them just asking for help or having a complaint of some sort. even if some interactions are kind of shitty, like the not-so-special special present that one guy got to make her feel special, it was a shitty attempt but they still tried to reach out knowing how hard it must be for her.

[@eekembookum]

All of those things are also traits that the other characters share, believe it or not. Maybe not parkour and accordian, but the rest are pretty much guaranteed to apply to the rest of the family and the town at large.

[@ghosty8193]

@@urarakasupremecist5671 I mean, I think that's the point- she's got so many talents that could help others, but because she doesn't fit the mold for her family (no powers) they sort of push her aside and ignore her talents.

[@frenchiestbread4755]

“She can parkour” sent me

[@majoromero8272]

Nobody is talking about two oruguitas, and as a colombian I can say that this song is so beautiful and emotional for our country because it represents forced displacement that has been a giant problematic on our country

[@noodleydoo2862]

I knowww that was my favorite song in the movie and no one pays attention to it

[@Swe3t_sw3et_C0ffee]

I genuinely love Dos Orugitas as a Puerto Rican myself,it makes me cry every time because I lost my grandfather last year and since I watched the movie I was trying so hard not to cry *(I watched it on Disney+ with my mom and dad)* ,anything that has the mention of death just makes me upset now but that isn’t exactly stopping me from adoring this movie

[@aphpuffinchild3930]

(a little jumbled because of my medication, but i hope this makes sense!) I can't quite relate to this in the same way, but I'm German Because my great grandmother gave birth to my grandmother while on the run, escaping Czechoslovakia to avoid being caught up in the brewing second world war - a LOT of my eastern european friends have similar family stories and I had to pause the movie during that song because I was just in TEARS - i didn't experience it myself, but when you grow up with every second family story involving loss of life, theres always this undertone of NEEDING your own life to be better, to show that youve really escaped what your older generations were running from. the discussion of family trauma as a result of things like forced displacement is so so important and i hope kids and adults alike can find a voice and relate to this film honestly

[@TriforceSamurai]

I really wanted to know and understand the opening scene that brought them to their Encanto. Was is bandits, was is a specific historic event in Colombian history? I would love to know what it meant to you, if you are willing to explain it or point me in the direction of the event to look up online.

[@Tylerbolical]

@@TriforceSamurai I believe it’s the 1000 days war

[@camillathomas6222]

One of my favorite things about this movie is that the house wasn’t magically rebuilt once they addressed the trauma and made a decision to rebuild the family. They had to manually rebuild the house as a family. The consequences of abuelas actions weren’t immediately made better by her apology. They have to work through the trauma both individually and together

[@sunnymaster6968]

I still think it would have been better if they did not get their powers back at the end

[@jkulkarni02]

Oh yes very true! Honestly tho, I don't think I can forgive Abuela. I cried my eyes out throughout this film, and every time I was sobbing it was because Abuela was being really hard on Mirabel. It may be unreasonable but I seriously cannot forgive her.

[@sunnymaster6968]

@@mrcloudiesbestfriend I see where you are coming from but think that her arc would have been more impactful If it showed that she does not need powers or supernatural abilities to be special. The movie even acts like that is where it is going but then bails

[@stormwright8300]

@@sunnymaster6968 but she still never got powers. All she did was restart the miracle. Everyone else got their powers back. She just opened her family's eyes. The door opening was pretty much symbolizing her becoming the newest matriarch of the family

[@nottoday3561]

@@mrcloudiesbestfriend maybe its too dark for a Disney movie, but I thought it would be more impactful to show that the damage done was irreparable, but you can still move forward even after losing something. The end was almost too perfect for the message of the movie.

[@bellapowers7546]

I love how in "We Don't Talk About Bruno" Isabela starts singing "I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine," but it's quickly drowned out by everyone else's voices. It's like no one sees her pain because she puts up too good of a front and never complains. Which, checks out with her character.

[@freakda96]

Dolores sings the I'm fine line too. She's obviously not fine with the fact that her cousin is gonna marry the man she loves, and Isabella is not fine marrying him out of convenience either.

[@liaa_smhh]

that’s dolores

[@ariyctz]

@@liaa_smhh both are singing that

[@DooDlingDulces]

"i couldn't tell you what is damaging about growing flowers" funny enough if you grow only one kind of plants in the same place constantly the ground eventually gets dry out of the nutrients necessaries to grow plants the ground needs variety to not run out of them and that is kinda what happens to Isabella she needs variety because she is sick of only flowers idk if the movie did that intentionally but if they did that's really neat

[@thethirdbill]

ah the horrors of science lol but for real, i had no idea! thank you for adding that fact!

[@mierin802]

I agree. Imagine if at 6 you learned to play Mary had a little lamb perfectly. And then for the rest of your life you are only allowed to play that one song. Never experimenting, never looking into other genres of music, just one perfect song. You'd be so sick of it you could scream.

[@emrys7674]

Pepa (weather aunt) is constantly told “Pepa, you have a cloud” and when she finally snaps she says “YOURE LUCKY ITS NOT A HURRICANE” ALSO - she has a lot of anxiety and her chant to calm down is “clear skies, clear skies” which i find incredibly sad

[@LadyHawke78]

Also - keep in mind - she’s 50 years old, and therefore would likely be in menopause… and from experience, THIS ABSOLUTELY WREAKS HAVOC ON YOUR EMOTIONS. I feel really bad for her… its got to make those powers tough to control! 😢

[@niftyskyblue]

Spoiler: I thought it was really sweet that when Bruno told her “looks like rain”, it wasn’t a prophecy, he was trying to tell her that it was okay to let it out. Unfortunately he’s a terrible communicator, but I just thought it was super sweet. Bruno’s the best.

[@Cesia_B]

I feel she represents "toxic positivity". SPOILER: At the end of the movie she lets her power play without worry, she is letting her self be honest with her emotions.

[@aubryellaotero1064]

She can never feel her emotions fully without people hating her and that’s so sad.

[@AndiLang8146]

It's like being told to calm down your entire life, never allowed to even slightly raise your voice without someone saying "calm down" which in turn only makes you actually angry.

[@maxwellgrimsley]

Surface pressure makes me SOB. “Give it to your sister, and never wonder if the same pressure would have pulled you under.” “Give it to your sister, it doesn’t hurt, and see if she can handle every family burden.” Like WHAT oh my God the realness and pain-

[@10k.._niyah98]

Literally my life in a nutshell.

[@LadyHawke78]

These lyrics totally described my life after my parents died. Also “No Cracks, No Breaks, No Mistakes.” I thought that if I didn’t handle everything PERFECTLY I’d be letting my family down. A total mood.

[@maxwellgrimsley]

@@LadyHawke78 I’m so sorry you had to experience this. I have my own personal relation to the lyrics, and I know the pain that comes with that. I hope you’re better now 💜

[@maem7462]

Honestly it’s so sad but also such a great song. The sing from the VA is great bc I can really hear the emotions in the song

[@sallyroslin4634]

The 2nd one hits the feelings HARD the writer of this song did it BEAUTIFULLY

[@LEBow-tc5db]

Can't believe Bill straight up guessed the entire plot from just the first song

[@mydaddusty]

Like actually tho lmao, the only one he didn’t get was Camilo but I have a theory about what Camilos would be! I think he has trouble knowing who he is and remembering what he looks like so he has to keep a picture in his pocket so he doesn’t forget :(

[@thethirdbill]

which time? lol i guessed a lot.

[@brianlucero7656]

@@thethirdbill you guessed most of the movie's plot by the songs and most of the message too! I hope you watch it!

[@UchihaKat]

That's Lin's skill with his lyrics!

[@ThanhTran-nl8du]

Bc the movies plot is very tropey and predictable haha

[@katenelson461]

“No your not fine!” Mirabel:”I’m not fine!” “Wait no, go back to happy!”

[@eyallev]

"joy is the villain" of "inside out"

[@mr.lazyness4926]

**"Go Back!" button pressing intensifies**

[@peterhiggins2928]

Favourite Disney lyric ever: "Give it to your sister and never wonder, if the same pressure wouldn't pull you under"

[@cheli4322]

Same.

[@callmewaves1160]

Right? Also oof.

[@xxjestertheclownxx]

I WAS GONNA SAY THIS I LOVE THIS LYRIC

[@-surfer-]

Would a*

[@LunartheDragon]

This movie is definitely worth a full watch! Plenty is missed between the songs that add even more to them

[@ApolloChild1512]

What they said

[@ProudlyAKilljoy]

Vouch

[@tenderheartedtheodore]

VOUCH

[@Travel__Spin]

Definitely need a full watch.

[@elnidodelfenix8200]

100% vouch, you get a lot of context between the songs, its not like a full musical

[@kammie5261]

i do love that he's not even watching the whole full movie, yet he's still crying under luisa's song, which just shows how 'powerful' the songs are

[@tatianaragland4007]

Gurl....the soundtrack is NOT that deep or the serious, like RELAX 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cartoonplanettv]

@@tatianaragland4007 Except for "dos oruguitas", that song is a love story in the context of forced migration caused by the war we're living in Colombia.

[@LunaRoA]

@@tatianaragland4007- *points at Dos Oruguitas* - Edit: Also Luisa's song is pretty much a deep song, the fact the its visuals make it look not that deep don't make it less deep, specially for older siblings

[@padmeamidala5521]

@@tatianaragland4007 one song is literally about how you basically feel worthless when you're not living up to everyone's and your own expectations...really came for my throat

[@tatianaragland4007]

@@padmeamidala5521 its still not that deep! Its literally a KID MOVIE! majority of y'all don't even know what's its really like to be in toxic household. My whole family toxic as hell but you don't see me crying over a damn CHILD SONG 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@skittleflovorcandy]

I also think Dolores is always whispering because she's constantly told to keep quiet. Imagine being a kid and hearing the entire towns secrets 24/7, she was raised to be the secret keeper.

[@katiaotero2392]

The only secret that she manages to keep is that Bruno is still living in the house. She's definitely a little bit of a gossip lol

[@cryptidnip]

@@katiaotero2392 she can only keep one big secret at a time💀💀

[@stephanievanderboom7145]

@@katiaotero2392 Personally I think the reason she managed to keep this secret is because she was (initially) trying to protect Bruno. When Bruno left she heard everything that everyone said about him and I think she was worried that if she told them the truth they would go get him from the walls and everyone would be incredibly angry with him. I don't think she realized how long Bruno would stay away, but after a while she was committed to the lie and she couldn't tell the truth because then everyone would be angry with her for not telling them sooner.

[@raven1436]

Wouldnt she whisper because eveything os loud so she talks quietly to make herself more comfortable you can see during the celebration of Antonio gift she covers ears also people who have excellent hearing do every thing quietly

[@nelsyr16]

Dolores whispers when she is talking about Bruno because she knows Bruno never left, she even says “I still hear him” and blame the rats when she clearly knows is Bruno. She is too afraid or let’s say “worry” about Grandma, so she doesn’t say anything.

[@RandoSando.]

I thought she was talking about the guy she was in love with

[@flowerboy14]

Dolores must be like dogs when theres fireworks

[@jonasquinn7977]

I think some of it is also that she’s by far the most sympathetic to Bruno because she can overhear both his own disparaging comments and what the rest of the family says about him Even in her own section of We Don’t Talk About Bruno she only has one line about being scared of his muttering, presumably because she might overhear a prophecy, but the rest of it is about how difficult his life was and how much Abuela and the others didn’t understand him

[@Silkenray]

My head canon is that she’s been trying to tell her family that Bruno has been in the walls the whole time, but every time she tries she gets told “WE DON’T TALK ABOUT BRUNO”

[@radicaledward84]

@@Silkenray And that's why I think she associates him with the sound of shushing - because she says sand, but she mimics shushing. And boy, must have she been shused a lot when she tried telling everyone.

[@amandac6161]

The dynamics of the Madrigal family really represents latino culture. The thing about latino families is we don't ever talk about the bad stuff. Latino households don't ever talk about failure and disappointment, in fact, gloating is a big part of our culture. Talk to any latino and they will say they've heard the phrase "your cousin is already in his second degree" or "your sister is getting married and you don't even have a relationship". There is no room for talking about sad things, about feeling pressure, about anxiety or anything remotely upsetting. It's bad but it really is part of the latino culture and that movie represents it perfectly... you know that they all love each other, you can clearly see that throughout the movie, but they just can't talk to each other, open their hearts to each other and really see each other. Very latino indeed.

[@iluvhim106]

Couldn’t agree more :/

[@slimjim5274]

@@iluvhim106 fr though

[@alandoodles]

I strongly agree about that with my own family. Although sometimes my mom tries to talk to us one on one about our issues. For the most part we just act like everything okay.

[@theonelostcass9140]

Exactly and its extreamly hard to change that or bring up that fact that, hey this isnt healthy and having a negative impact on us, bc everyone rushed to dismiss it or ignore it bc its just always been like that

[@SilentTrip]

Same in Arab culture, but I will break those toxic ideas and generational truama if I get blessed with a family of mine

[@purplations869]

About the flower sister, she was expected to be perfect her whole life, but her sister (the main character) brought out her true self and she was able to create something not perfect and bold which was who she truly was.

[@jonatasssss10]

@@80sCanadian actually Luisa is the older sister

[@TinyPaxan]

@@jonatasssss10 mirabel is 15, luisa is 19, isabela is 22

[@ladydelulu]

@@jonatasssss10 luisa was the middle kid.

[@ladydelulu]

@@80sCanadian also it's Mirabel, one 'L'

[@lowkeylokieanimations]

The witches understand this : Mirabel is the moldavite to Isabela. Moldavite is seen as horrible, but Moldavite actually does spiritual awakening.

[@cas2762]

As an older sibling, “surface pressure” fucking broke me. Especially for those of us who grew up as girls, older siblings are often expected to be “third parents” to their younger siblings. It’s a documented phenomenon, especially in families with lots of children, and it’s a lot.

[@buberrycrunch]

yes, I agree. I'm the oldest and everyone always pressure me or expect me to be a good role model and it's so stressful.

[@transmascmess.68]

they literally said i was basically the third parent like word for word wtf i didn't know this was a thing that was studied

[@cas2762]

@@transmascmess.68 I only recently found out about that too! Thank you “gender in medicine” course. But yeah, if I’m not mistaken the term is “parental child” (but I could be wrong), and it sucks.

[@transmascmess.68]

@@cas2762 damn. i was raised as a girl too, (although now im gender non-conforming) why tf does that make it hit so much harder :(((( honestly though id really love to read up on this stuff some time if you have recommendations

[@cas2762]

@@transmascmess.68 raised a girl, I’m genderqueer, and I don’t really have recommendation. I accidentally found this through a research paper about health in ultraorthodox women.

[@kelseycouch7945]

Dolores's (super-hearing lady) lines "Always left abuela and the family fumbling, grappling with prophecies they couldn't understand," sum up the issue perfectly, imo. It's exactly what happened. The problem was that no one knew how to handle Bruno's power, not Bruno himself.

[@Let_Toons]

Yep The mental disorder metaphor

[@cait.tama1]

The interesting thing about Pepa’s power is that the rain clouds aren’t always associated with negative emotions. When Antonio has his door ceremony a cloud forms over her when she’s expressing her excitement for him. (I’m sure there’s some underlined nervousness as well but it’s not always only sad) Also at the end when she’s dancing all happy and is making it hail!!

[@aliciakozume5928]

Thissss we see her extremely happy in the end of the movie as rain pours down and they dance in it

[@Vekcrazah]

it feels like it works the same as isabela's power. It only functions as intended only if she got her emotions under control. This is pure speculation ofc, by i feel like she can control the weather depending on what she feels like, and it only goes the opposite way if she does not feel a grasp on her own emotions.

[@carmendebenedictis-larue6250]

I feel like that's a reflection of like a mom's feeling of her little boy being grown up it's happy and wistful in a way. Kind of how we don't always cry from sadness, lots of people cry at weddings or happy events too.

[@fishnewt1331]

It explains well Bruno’s vision of her wedding taking place in a hurricane. He made the mistake of telling her the vision, so it brewed over in her head and caused a tempest. The only real mistake I think he made, based on how temperamental Pepa is. He meant well, but I assume Pepa could have been a major bridezilla, meaning her emotions were rampant with nerves over the wedding that were worsened.

[@lucar9873]

@@fishnewt1331 yes, I think Pepa is the only one Bruno actually wronged in any way, it was a pretty thoughtless comment. But I think that's what makes it so poignant, is that family drama can really be like that. Sometimes the most minute misunderstandings or transgressions can twist over time into rifts and broken communication and even complete estrangement. It's deep and it's shallow all at once. Just like Luisa sings, the pressure is like drips that all add up until you can't bear it any more.

[@irinaj8716]

This film was such a great representation of generational trauma- and I love that it didn’t have a pure evil villain (or, arguably, any villain at all).

[@therainbewavy]

The villain IS unhealed and unaddressed family/generational trauma and the nasty space it leaves behind. I'm 100% here for it. I STAN this film because of all of this.

[@samcarter4886]

Except the guys who burned down the village and killed Pedro lol

[@nyahnyahson523]

@@samcarter4886 Dole the banana company is the real villain.

[@inspectornl]

The family was it's own villain, in my eyes.

[@mikshinee87]

Pedro lost his head over all this.

[@remigotchauchi7376]

listening to dos oruguitas : "this sounds hopeful" me, ugly sobbing :

[@elmitchell3843]

BRUH SAME OMGGG

[@taylorharrison6607]

I WAS GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS TOO

[@miguelquinteros5094]

I wanted to hear the english version of it to see if it was about two worms that become butterflies but apparently only the spaish one is available :O

[@TheRealRebeccaClay]

@@miguelquinteros5094 the English version is on the soundtrack as “two oruguitas”

[@miguelquinteros5094]

@@TheRealRebeccaClay for real? I feel do dumb thanks for letting me know 😁

[@naniita1103]

You NEED to watch the movie. My husband is Colombian, and the way the touched and talked such a DEVASTATING topic as forced displacements is just...magical. The first scene in the movie is Abuela telling the story of how they lost their home, and that's a very real thing people suffered because of the armed conflict between the narcos, military and armed forces..it's horrible, so many people forced to leave their home and land or else they'd be murdered. Please please watch it, it's truly wonderful ♥

[@warcatfurever101writeroffanfic]

I thought of it as colonization and similar to the whole recent border immigration problem, etc (things like that, even though the latter thing I just said is more recent and these times are older but I don’t know how to describe it, it was on my tongue yet I forgot how to word it, and even then I don’t know if what I’m saying makes sense) but I don’t know much of the topic as I am not of the culture nor am knowledgeable or educated about said topic. Glad someone know about the context.

[@hopsymopsy8352]

It's also interesting because in the first sequence when seeing the story Abuela tells, it's toned down and short, not conveying much of the emotional trauma (probably because mirabel was so young) but in the last few scenes where its shown it goes over their whole story, it implies the gruesome murder and even that she had to watch it happen to him. It shows her breaking down in a sort of prayer and the miracle forming before panning over to her staring off in a room (probably in shock). The first telling seemed fantastical but the final shows how truly devastating and heartbreaking it was for her to go through, and explains why she clung so tight to everyone being perfect for the sake of the miracle that her husband essentially was sacrificed for

[@cristhianzerimar]

I'm Colombian and was really upset by the music. It sounded more like Puerto Rican regeton than something out of Colombia.

[@mooglerific]

@@cristhianzerimar respectfully, as a puerto rican, none of the music in this movie sounds like reguetón or anything remotely like our music, with the exception of the one salsa instrumental heard during antonio's party.

[@vadalia3860]

@@hopsymopsy8352 I noticed that too and really liked it. The first time we see the scene it's extremely sanitized, almost having the same "perfect" polish Abuela wants everything in their lives and the family to have. The second time, it's far more visceral and messy but also more real. Abuela just saw her husband murdered & probably thought she and her babies were next and it's okay that that's horrific and traumatizing to live through. She no longer has to hold onto the burden of pretending it wasn't, just as the rest of the family don't have to hold onto their own burdens anymore.

[@Gildedpossum]

"Give it to your sister and never wonder If the same pressure would've pulled you under" Is genuinely one of my favorite lyrics ever

[@ggaleluya]

👏🏽 me too!

[@carlacollier3363]

Broke me

[@cutiepie120048]

Same 😭

[@magnarcreed3801]

But that’s what the oldest have to do. Otherwise… well I’m not sure my younger siblings could handle it.

[@cheli4322]

Same!

[@janeeeee1052]

There's also this small but important detail where when the people are clapping, you can see Dolores clap using her index fingers, so it might be because even her own clap is also too loud for her

[@dogge8680]

Amazing!

[@flowerboy14]

If u pay attention when antonio gets hus gift camilo makes a loud noise and dolores covers her ears in pain

[@twist_ending7545]

Camilo was also snapping instead of clapping

[@kooksluvr]

@@twist_ending7545 he was like “ no mames weyyyy” or “ chaleeeee” while snapping his fingers cause that’s what my brother does when he’s excited or something 😭

[@elizahamilton6271]

I love how this movie digs so much deeper into each character’s personal problems. For Mirabel, we know she struggles with not having powers and not feeling like she belongs. But then we meet her “flawless” and “amazing” family, and we realize there’s more beneath all that. Luisa is under all this pressure, and it’s painful for Isabela to always be perfect. And you’re right about Dolores getting disturbed by some of the things she hears and Pepa definitely struggles with always having to control herself. One of my favorite interpretations of problems being caused by their powers comes from Camilo (the shape shifter), who is also my favorite character :). It’s not so obvious in the movie, but Camilo is said to not know who he truly is and not having that sense of self since he’s constantly changing between different people.

[@MinaWalker]

I actually think that there’s a disorder that has something to do with multiple personalities

[@RinaNightshade]

@@MinaWalker Dissociative identity disorder :3

[@cokeandcheese.6617]

@@MinaWalker yes, but i don't think that's what camilo is interpreted to have considering the disorders comes along with having amnesia when switching from one personality to another

[@ziizion4074]

@@cokeandcheese.6617 not always true! There's also osdd-1a and osdd-1b, which are both without amnesia.

[@cokeandcheese.6617]

@@ziizion4074 oh i didn't know. thanks for telling me! but i frankly still don't think his gift is about DID because there are more things involved with the disorder such as triggers and trauma which has caused the person to split into different personalities.

[@cupcakejack7375]

About what u said of Bruno, my interpretation is that Encanto gave Bruno his power for him to give warnings. Tell people bad things would happen so they could mentally and emotionally prepare for those things. But people started to see his powers not as warnings but as jinxes. Like, it happened BECAUSE he said it would. But in reality, he SAID it would happen BECAUSE it would anyway.

[@nich0ne]

that's exactly wut i was thinking !

[@wolvesofabyss8235]

So I noticed in the fine lines of the movie that Bruno's visions CAN change depending on the actions the person takes about the visions. It is only that people did not take them as something they can change, but as set in stone to happen.

[@wolvesofabyss8235]

@@howellaboutno9500 do you have anything to add?

[@NancyRodriguez-ff5hi]

In latino culture we are super superstitious like the knock knock thing he does, so the same happened with him people tough of him like a witch of misfortune and not a person that can see the future is actually pretty cool to see.

[@lauz2486]

Exactly!, the adults thought of it as something that Bruno predicted and so it would be, but, for example, his nephews could understand his predictions and change that "future".

[@megaabsolangelgamer3996]

As an older sister, Surface Pressure fucking makes me cry every single time-- "See if she can handle every family burden, watch as she buckles and bends but never breaks," followed immediately by being crushed by the house she lives in... Yeah.

[@janice338]

The hole "Im pretty sure Im worthless if I cant be of service" kills me

[@qdkdicja10]

the visuals, when the song started, was so goofy with the donkeys it reminded me of that song Christof (is that his name???) sings in Frozen 2 and I was SO ready to be disappointed… like, that song was okay, but do we really need another silly music video with four legged animals? But then it proceeded to rip my heart out. Contrary to what I had initially guessed, the comedic theme actually added so much weight to Luisa’s sadness and anxiety :(

[@raindropsonroses3919]

Pretty sure isabella is the oldest sister

[@qdkdicja10]

@@raindropsonroses3919 oh right, I read that she’s 21 and Luisa’s 19 😅

[@zztop5968]

@@raindropsonroses3919 yeah but even thought she's the second oldest the oldest is supposed to be pretty and perfect. while the second oldest is supposed to be the strong and dependable one so there's a possibility of if we were to assume that would be being the one everyone depends on most it would inevitably fall on the second oldest as to she is the strongest and most reliable.

[@v.v365]

Camillo doesn’t get much focus as sort of a comic relief but the way he uses his shape shifting powers made people realize his particular trauma is that he doesn’t know who he is outside of being the things everyone else wants to see and generally being a clown

[@breeze5926]

He's literally physically changing himself to meet others expectations on their every whim.

[@erikkennedy8725]

Generational trauma is a huge issue in this film, and you’ve hit upon it so well. It shares a lot with Coco in that respect, but Encanto is unique in that there isn’t any main villain. It’s just exploring this family, and I found all of your analysis to be very perceptive. Now I want to watch it again….

[@KatBambi]

“I’m not gonna gaslight myself like that” BRO MOOD I need more of this energy in my life thank you

[@burst4730]

I didn’t understand this at first either, but the lyrics are like “Bruno says it looks like rain.” “In doing so he floods my brain.” So Pepa was thinking/worrying about the rain so much after he said that, it actually happened.

[@cait.tama1]

Yeah he sings later “I didn’t mean to scare you I could just see you were sweating” it wasn’t even a prophesy LOL

[@moonlightmemories959]

yeah i took it at as he could see how nervous she was and on edge, so he made a "prophecy" about the rain and in doing so gave her an excuse to let go of her emotions and blame him for it

[@iantaakalla8180]

When your brain was already metaphorically flooded but someone conveniently said something insensitive

[@palomaroggeri8680]

“Watch as she buckles and bends but never breaks!” One of my favorite lyrics, just so heartbreaking and hits so hard. Its like the consequence of living with “what doesn’t kill you make you stronger”.

[@bdariamihaela]

My favorite verse is "Give it to your sister and never wonder if the same preassure would have pulled you under" it's so so strong

[@Manilove223]

I think its "breaks" at in broken and not the stopping "brakes"

[@bdariamihaela]

@@Manilove223 Yes, it's just wrong spelling. It happens to me to

[@palomaroggeri8680]

@@Manilove223 oh yeah that was just a typo 😅

[@invaderzam]

Over time, I have learned that pain is inconsequential to strength. Or if there is a connection, there is 1000 things between pain and strength. If someone did not help you with all 1000 things and only contributed to the pain, then you owe them nothing. That person damaged you and did not help you recover. If you did become stronger from the experience, it is no thanks to that person.

[@AbbyBubbls]

15:34 There is a very nice detail in Dolores's animation in the movie where fireworks go off, and she covers her ears because they're too loud when it's a celebration for her little brother's gift! She's obviously super happy for him, but IT'S TOO LOUD!

[@cryptidnip]

She also covers her ears at the dinner when *shes* the one being too loud, since she’s usually speaking very softly

[@jasmineabrego8157]

@@cryptidnip Also when the house starts getting cracks during the dinner, she covers her ears again, and you see her kind of like wince when Camilo is shapeshifting uncontrollably.

[@AnimeGirl799]

Someone pointed out on tiktok that there's a scene where everyone was clapping, and dolores was clapping with just her fingers

[@darkamaterasu8655]

FINALLY!!! Someone finally mentioned how pepa is forced to keep her emotions in check because of the power to make it rain. The thought of always having to be happy no matter what you do.

[@HopeGardner3amed]

A therapy analysis of this movie brings it up too.

[@senryuzaki9487]

When it comes to the flower sister's part in We Don't Talk About Bruno, her part was actually sad. The way things were going at that point weren't going how she wanted at all. It was going the exact opposite of what Bruno had told her due to the pressure of being "perfect"

[@dertr_cz3749]

I am unsure about this, cause her dream was to be free and be who she wants. Release her emotions and be colourful instead of straight perfect. She wanted to be unperfect and that happened. This is really questionable, but my guess would be that she stayed on this path of perfection in hope that in future, she will be able to release herself from perfection chains or something on that note.

[@saphcal]

but he said her perfect life would someday be hers, and it was by the end. his vision was true, she just misinterpreted like almost everyone did.

[@senryuzaki9487]

@@saphcal But the thing is, she didn't want perfect, and nothing was going the way she had wanted it. His vision of her future wasn't coming to fruition the way she had hoped. It was all going against her at that moment.

[@saphcal]

@@senryuzaki9487 the perfect life for her wasnt the perfect life she was being forced to live. her perfect life was being allowed to not be perfect.

[@senryuzaki9487]

@@saphcal But the thing is, she was told her perfect life was coming, but all she was getting was all things she hated

[@VelvSunrise]

Isa’s verse in the Bruno song hits different after you know how she feels about “being the perfect golden child”, and if you listen during everyone’s parts overlapping at the end, she and Dolores keep repeating “i’m fine i’m fine i’ll be fine”

[@jchacho6335]

But Mirabel made Bruno’s prophecy for Isabel come true. During her song, she gets the imperfect life of her dreams and her powers grow beyond making flowers.

[@beashemmad.sayson545]

@@jchacho6335 yh but we were talking abt then

[@NamiiWavee]

I know I'm happy everyone actually got a happy ending at the end

[@jamievogt4982]

8:45 ... The line about the door is literal. Theres a door ceremony where the family madrigal receive their power and a magical room. Maribels room never came. She LITERALLY feels like shes stuck at her door that disappeared.

[@rbeanie01]

But also figuratively

[@shartnugget2260]

Mirabel

[@Sagacypher]

But it also works metaphorically

[@judeeeeeeeee]

I kind of like Camilo's verse and the fact that he was really young when Bruno left. Almost everyone in "We don't talk about Bruno" is an adult before he left, so they remember some personal experience with bruno. Camilo probably doesn't remember much about Bruno, just that his tio that seemed to make bad things happen. Because of this, his verse kind of seemed like he was telling a scary story. The seven feet tall thing is pretty accurate for a child’s estimate of an adults height (though when he turns into Bruno he isn’t much taller than mirabel) I also like the theory that Camilo accidentally saw Bruno in the kitchen or something when he was older and when Bruno called out his name in surprise , Camilo just passed out. “When he calls your name it all fades to black “ (not my theory though)

[@santiv4]

only felix and pepa were adults, dolores and isabella were kids (around 10) and camilo is only a bit older than maribel was (5ish)

[@judeeeeeeeee]

@@santiv4 ur right. I meant old enough to retain a decent amount of memories over that ten year time period

[@ellivare7280]

i saw someone saying that camilo's verse is from what he heard from pepa

[@Cujo4169]

People always say that Camilo saw Bruno when he was younger and assumed Bruno was tall af, but Camilo literally transformed into Bruno haha. It just doesn’t make sense to me. Maybe I thought to deep lmaooo

[@lanewaldon6450]

@@Cujo4169 I mean Bruno is depicted on the mural in the village and in the family tree and his likeness on his door combined with what everyone said about him probably gave him a rough enough idea to shapeshift into him I'd reckon

[@DarkLadyPhoenix]

"and now we're dancing with unicorn donkeys. That's not helping me." Same though. Bruh, I cried about half the entire movie. So emotional. Especially this song.

[@RivkahSong]

All of the gifted families members are expected to have their entire life and personality be ONLY their gift. Luisa can't make mistakes, rest, or be gentle because she's the strong unbreakable warrior. Isabella has to be perfect every second of every day with no mistakes, not a hair out of place or a decision made that doesn't reflect perfection, grace, beauty, and delicate femininity in every breath. Pepa can't be anything but sunny and cheerful so that no one is inconvenienced by her emotions. Julieta has to be nurturing and maternal at every moment and even going to bat for one of her kids is frowned upon because she's expected to be a mother to the entire valley and therefore can't "play favorites" with her own children. etc etc. And then there's Mirabel who didn't GET a gift at age 5. What brought everyone here to begin with was a sudden tragedy that cost them nearly everything. Mirabel is scolded and belittled every time she isn't being invisible in the background because her very existence reminds everyone how fragile their happiness and safety truly is and that once again devastation could hit them with no warning. They've forgotten that the miracle was the continued survival of their family and the people they lead and protect. The magic gifts were only meant to be tools to facilitate that survival but they're instead treating the magic gifts like they are the end goal of the miracle and the people who have them are merely vessels for the magic.

[@Lizzy.Midford]

Omg

[@UchihaKat]

My roommate calls "Surface Pressure" the "villain song" of the movie, because the real villain of the movie is the pressures put on the family. Also because of its dope low beat and most of the aesthetics being darker.

[@pudlordtynan919]

God, I really want Bill to watch Encanto. To see the songs in their context and the truly wonderful connective tissue between. Encanto has quickly shot up to the top of my favourite Disney movies. And like all good Disney movies, it harpoons tears from me at any opportunity.

[@bchousehold]

SPOILERS It’s sad that after reacting to “What Else Can I Do?”, you experienced a good feeling but unfortunately, right after that, Abuela comes in and chastises Mirabel for influencing imIsabelle to be imperfect, and Isabella caves in once more.

[@thegamingboy1852]

Yeah, I thought the fam was about to get better but if course we need abuela to ruin everything. I mean, it was great to see Mirabel finally stands up for not only herself but the whole family.

[@hcxpl1]

I'm trying to figure out what Bruno's vision about Isabella in We Don't Talk About Bruno really meant and I am torn: Did he mean that the life she actually wanted would be hers and therefore she was hopeful or did he simply see her marrying Mr Mariano and thought that was what she wanted therefore just making she more anxious? I think both would be interesting but the second is more likely since his visions are visual and she didn't really know what she wanted of her life except to be freer.

[@Rexvils]

@@hcxpl1 i think it’s more of a result of Mirabel helping achieve the second part of her prophecy: her gifting maturing and growing. Because of her power developing I think it opens her future to something more liberating than what Abuela expected of Isabela

[@guilhermefarias5255]

@@hcxpl1 I assume he saw her living the life of her dreams (free from the perfect persona, and her powers growing) but Isabela probably assumed she was so perfect not even Bruno could foresee negativity in her life, she probably thought "the life of her dreams" would be the one a Perfect Golden Child would have

[@hcxpl1]

@@Rexvils @Israel AV Now that I think about it, I reckon a better question than what he saw was what she though he meant: was she still lying to herself saying that "perfection" is what she wanted? Bc What Else Can I Do does seem to be some kind of revelation but I'm not sure it just for Mirabel/the audience or if to herself too. My guess is she had known she wanted something different for quite sometime then but up until the cactus it didn't seem viable/possible and now she sees this new realm of possibilities. But that's my guess, what do you think?

[@syurjevic]

Mirabel’s gift is being the one they bring the whole family together because she doesn’t have a special gift. She is the only one that can focus on how people are feeling rather than on their accomplishments. At the end Mirabel’s door is the front door of the house because in her heart there is room for everyone, she is a true empath, she is the next Abuela.

[@alanvargas_0722]

The fact that you are only looking at the songs themselves makes you have a VERY different perspective to these songs, yet SO on point!!

[@MagicalAnimecat]

When you mentioned Dolores' power hurting her, it made me think of a tiny little detail from the movie. When Antonio gets his power and everyone cheers and the fireworks go off, she IMMEDIATELY covers her ears. I have sensitive hearing, but nowhere near superhuman levels of course, and that would be a lot for ME! I can only imagine what that's like for her

[@nich0ne]

omg every time i see that scene my eyes immediately go to her covering her ears and im like :o poor bby

[@justvashu]

Her name means pain in Spanish.

[@MagicalAnimecat]

@@justvashu Does it? ;-; Poor Dolores

[@allisonbarber775]

Also, she speaks softer than everyone else. On the other hand, she likes that the guy/love interest talks loud.

[@pivinne5536]

AND when she claps she only uses her fingers so its quiet! they put SO much thought into these characters!

[@araluen4109]

It always impresses me how close Bill can get to guessing the plot and main points of a story just by listening to a few songs from the soundtrack

[@thealmightybucket5930]

im still surprised how he easily guessed Marceline and bonnie being resentful exes in adventure time just from "im just your problem"

[@rebelblackstone6066]

Right!? But the also shows how much the story is woven into the songs, which, I guess, is how a traditional (?) musical is supposed to be. Very well done musical/lyrical storytelling!

[@leeminhyung167]

Lol, I love how he’s like “Dos Oruguitas” sounds happy, while I just flat out cried during the song

[@andrealevinson1342]

literally the most heartbreaking scene in the whole movie!!! he better watch the full movie lol

[@Erudessa22]

All I could think is "if he watches the movie (esp with subtitles on), that song is going to be an emotional slap in the face" bc i still can't hear it w/o sobbing

[@dragontears]

He said it was the coming together and understanding song, which is exactly what it is! Uplifting and fragile and careful, all words he used and all completely accurate! Also none of them stopping the tears at all.

[@iluvhim106]

@@dragontears that is what the song is about but it’s also about letting go. & I feel like the movie/scene where you see them fall in love and be the “dos oruguitas” really brings it all together what she had to lose and “move on” from in order to raise her family.

[@ashbulus]

A headcanon I saw about Pepa and Bruno and their relationship is that Pepa was so heartbroken after he left that she focused on all of their sibling petty fights to distract herself from the overwhelming sadness of losing her brother. Being angry and taking deep breaths to calm down is easier than being destroyed by your love for someone and the guilt you feel for failing to make him feel at home enough to stay, especially when your emotions affect everybody around you and you're forced to be 'in control' of them.

[@cathbad3337]

The interesting part of "We don't talk about Bruno" is the perspectives the song comes from. People that personally knew Bruno and relatives that didn't and kept rumors alive.

[@saraangel6696]

But camilo and dolores did know him because they are older than mirabel, and bruno left after mirabel didn’t get a gift.

[@BookieMonsterr]

@@saraangel6696 camilo and mirabel are the same age

[@genesisvargas1399]

The translation for “Dos Oruguitas” doesn’t really communicate everything. It’s more about two oruguitas that want to be together but know that inevitably they’ll be separated by circumstances. It’s talking about the grandma’s past trauma when her family was displaced and her husband dies protecting the village and the miracle blessed her with a new home and second chance after she lost everything. And how she takes this power and becomes too tough to prevent future trauma but now she has to change again to repair the damage of generational trauma. It’s honestly the saddest song.

[@gerardwayseyeliner8911]

i sobbed like a little baby in this part holy shit

[@pokaay3163]

I love the sound and the singer, its so gentle and sad.

[@theywalkinguptoyouand4060]

It's actually the perspective of Abuelo Pedro. He wants to be with Abuela Alma but he can't. He has to try to fight and end up getting killed so she and their children can be saved. Like (not exactly but kind of) two caterpillars needing to be separated in order to be butterflies. It's not a glaringly obvious metaphor, of course.

[@thew4lker]

When it plays "Dos oruguitas": -"I think this is the part of resolution and understanding" Ohhh, the context...the context! As a colombian, this song hits very painful notes. Violence is an integral part of our identity and culture, being that of the spanish colonizers that slaughtered the native communities, the political turmoil from the early 20 century (which i suspect is the time frame for the Abuela's story) or the guerilla and paramilitarism that ensued from that. So many stories like this one of families and whole communities that had to run away from home trying to find shelter and in the process the are faced with brutality, death and loss, but still had to find strength to move on. I am surprised Disney actually referenced this kind of stuff!

[@CJBriggsFilms]

Every single time I listen to Dos Oruguitas i bawl like a baby, it hits me so hard

[@beccap2815]

What I absolutely love about Surface Pressure is that it isn’t the oldest sister. It’s Louisa, who is the middle child. It shows that it’s not always the oldest that has to be the strongest and carry the burdens and that was important to me because as the youngest, the stereotype is that I’m the perfect kid who can do no wrong (which I love that they have Isabella as that because once again, role reversal and showing not everyone is the stereotype), I’ve always had to be the strong one that has to just deal with everything and be fine with it. I could go on forever about this but I’ll just leave it at that. The change in stereotype roles is amazing.

[@keanupandtimered1375]

Actually Luisa it is the oldest :0 Isabela is the middle child

[@MrGrinch17]

@@keanupandtimered1375 No. Isabela and Dolores are the first two gran kids of Abuela; they're both 21. Luisa is 19, and then we have Mirabel and Camilo, both 15 years old. The last one was Antonio, five years.

[@sallyroslin4634]

@@keanupandtimered1375 I think the confusion with thinking she is older is because when singing surface pressure to mirabel she's technically the "older sister" between mirabel and her. I actually thought that for a second to not gonna lie

[@heatherheath3834]

I think that, regardless of actual birth order (although the oldest as third parents is very common and is absolutely a huge burden that should not be placed on a child) it's generally the 'reliable' people in the family who end up crushed like that. For me, I high key relate, my parents are/were disabled, my father died, so all four of us were forced to carry a lot more than we ever should've. There's definitely a lot of resentment towards the others who get to shirk their responsibilities, whether that's by leaving (my oldest siblings who are almost a decade older but also didn't have any of the support or hand-me-downs we got) versus the one/ones who are forced to stay because nobody else will. If you're around, and want to help, then you end up doing the lion's share of the work with no breathing room, especially when your parents have (purposefully or not) treated you badly. Everyone needs so much more support than they ever received, because there's only so many hours in a day. You either take care of the others or you take care of yourself and there's just not enough room to do both.

[@TheCrayonMaster]

Yup, middle child here. I have always been expected to be more responsible than my brothers. Don't know if that's because I was already more responsible or reliable...but yeah.

[@TriforceSamurai]

I love the little details in each scene. Did everyone see Bruno in the background of "We dont talk about Bruno" during Dolores number. He's walking around on the second floor of the house behind them and nodding his head to the beat.

[@wepimpchimpin7799]

Them: talking mad shit on him Bruno: bruh this fuckin song is bussin to the ears.

[@nalugermanyxd5941]

I always crack up while simultaneously crying when I see him doing that because like, the head bobbing is so adorable but the lyrics are just crapping on him unjustly 😭

[@fupamaster378]

that was camilo

[@annaaizone6714]

@@fupamaster378 i heard from someone that was actually Bruno lol, they said the creator confirmed it-

[@astraregulus2672]

@@fupamaster378 nah, it was probably Bruno, he was moving away from the portrait wall entrance, I think

[@mowesrik]

After seeing the film I cannot listen to Dos Orugitas without sobbing. It's kinda about what you thought but it's also about something very different and it HURTS

[@adalai_domaruk]

Love how he’s taking the actual door in the song and turning it into like a deeper meaning because he doesn’t know what’s happening 😂😂

[@thethirdbill]

an actual door would still be a metaphor though lol

[@adalai_domaruk]

@@thethirdbill very true

[@stardewyvalley9658]

I loved this but I was absolutely dying at you listening to “dos Oruguitas” and being like “oh yea this sounds like a happy song” when in reality it plays over the most heartbreaking part of the movie. But I loved all of this, your interpretations were so accurate for only listening to the music, and I loved how you immediately picked up on the emotions of surface pressure. So many people I’ve seen listen to this song who get caught up in the beat and completely miss the truly devastating lyrics. And for what else can I do, in the movie it is a little sadder than it portrays here because it ends up leading into the conflict. I think you would love the actual film (if you haven’t already seen it), and it would be really cool if you did a reaction to the whole film as you have really powerful insights! Sorry for the giant ramble, hope you have a great day!

[@julie91295]

dos Oruguitas is a healing song I think. It's during a sad part but it's like the grandma process of facing her past - both the painful and the beautiful part, and figure out how to let go. The 2nd half of the song is kind of a happy resolution after it all.

[@challengemeneo]

Saame

[@PolliitoAle]

@@julie91295 yes! It's a healing song. But I think for that same reason has a moment about the trauma and grief, and legitimately makes me sob

[@IsisAlv]

dos oruguitas is a classic LMM move, cause the main part does seem happy, but the bass is descending. howard ho has a video series called "how hamilton makes you cry", and he explains that

[@YukonYuki]

I was sobbing in the movie theater

[@aohara01]

As the eldest sibling and one of the oldest cousins within my hispanic family, I really relate with Luisa. Her song crushed me. The pressure placed on us to be the strongest not only physically, but mentally for the sake of our family is no joke. Hope everyone else who relates got some reassurance from the song and overall message of the movie.

[@MiaMartinez-bb9ko]

Fun fact Luisa isn’t even the oldest she is the middle and Isabela is the oldest

[@aohara01]

@@MiaMartinez-bb9ko woah didn’t know that! thanks 😄

[@Thebeezzkneezz.]

But she isn't the oldest. She's the middle child. It has nothing to do with the whos eldest child

[@aohara01]

@@Thebeezzkneezz. just saying that I relate mostly because I’m the oldest 🤷‍♀️ but yeah I was told Isabela was the oldest. Still holds true.

[@MiaMartinez-bb9ko]

@@aohara01 I get you tho they honestly should have made her the oldest because she gave off major older sister vibes

[@wyattae]

As the oldest sibling, I can say that "I'm pretty sure I'm worthless if I can't be of service" is definitely one of the lyrics I relate to the most. And I also really relate to: "Give her all the heavy things we can't shoulder." Like damn, it really hits hard.

[@alex-ju2bd]

i love that they said “give it to your sister she’s older” and not “she’s stronger” it’s much more powerful and relatable and literal

[@spikmagoo]

I just know he's the sweetest dude ever, the amount of empathy he has towards these songs just shows that.

[@has-been-hot3l]

My favorite lines in surface pressure are “give it to your sister, it doesn’t hurt, and see if she can handle every family burden” and “give it to your sister and never wonder if the same pressure would’ve pulled you under” Those two lyrics speak a lot to how I felt for a long time within my friend group, and I know it’s a little different than being that way with your family, but I lost a lot of friends when I stopped being the person who would get walked all over so others would be happier, so her loved ones encouraging her to carry less hits me so hars

[@bonisings7541]

talking about "waiting on a miracle" another detail that Lin Manuel Miranda (who wrote the songs) talked about in an interview is that while other songs have a 4/4 tempo, this song has a 3/4 tempo because Mirabel feels out of beat compared to the rest of the family. that made me appreciate this song so much and that's why it's one of my favorites

[@bellasaid7732]

IF YOU LISTEN CAREFULLY “the family Madrigal” and “Waiting on a miracle” have the same melody! I believe that the reason that the powers along with their struggles that were given to the female family members reflect the expectations that are put onto Hispanic and Latinx women, they are always expected to be perfect, beautiful and happy all the time but also be the one that heals and holds up her family.

[@bellasaid7732]

Ps I think you’re gonna love Bruno :)

[@ebonymaw_2448]

It’s Latina not Latinx

[@strawberrylemonade8799]

Latinx is a recently coined word used to include all people within and outside of the gender binary in the Hispanic/Latin American community. So this person probably just used Latinx to make sure they included everyone, which you personally don’t necessarily need to do so when referring to women in the Latin American community if you don’t want to.

[@anaiyahluther]

Her uncle and male cousins all have powers too though?

[@ebonymaw_2448]

@@strawberrylemonade8799 my community is made up of Latinos and Latinas Latinx is and American term which is disrespectful to the gendered language of Spanish of my community. Please don’t use that term it has no basis in our cultural identity. A better word would be Hispanic since it is gender neutral. Thank you for trying to explain though.

[@standardhuman8675]

ngl surface pressure makes me cry every time. in my family, i was the smart one, the responsible one, the one that could handle everything. i couldn't relax for a second, even when i wasn't doing anything. i still have trouble managing my needs over the wants of others. Luisa shouldn't be as relatable as she is

[@hannahappa]

Honestly same goes for me in my family so I heavily sympathise - I’ve always been the one who got the best grades, when I have an exam I feel Ill because in my head it has to be perfect for them, I was expected to go to university so I did and it’s tough having all that pressure all the time honestly xx

[@standardhuman8675]

That sucks, I'm so sorry.

[@milorca4412]

both luisa and isabella feel very relatable in that way. im known for 1 thing- basically listening and letting other people talk about their problems. i cant actually handle it but its really the only thing i feel im good for.

[@acanimatics906]

Honestly same! I also relate to Isabela because while I wasn't perfect because I was autistic and undiagnosed and the symptoms were there and so hard to deal with on my own I was masking to be as (convenient a kid) perfect as I could be. Which is why I also relate to Pepa because of years of micromanaging my moods down to my expressions and not being able to express myself and my emotions freely. Replace the clouds with autistic reactions and meltdowns and ya got it. I had my own What else can I do moment when I talked to an adult who handed me a crayon and told me to go nuts. No expectations no critique just "Evrything is art, don't think just do."

[@standardhuman8675]

@* Milorca * i go through the same, and its awful. but just so ya know, you have more worth than just being a shoulder to cry on. if ya need to talk, im here for ya, ok?

[@Beeba10]

"I love how the golden child was the only one with, like, good news." You're meant to feel that way at first, knowing Isabela is the "perfect" girl, but then after hearing "What Else Can I Do?" you realise that Bruno's prediction that her life would continue to be perfect wasn't actually a consolation to her; although, he was also right about her power growing and thriving, which ended up happening in WECID and actually was a good thing for her.

[@KathyWashburnBunn]

I love how much you understood from "Dos Oruguitas" just from the music, without knowing the language or seeing the visuals.

[@LotusStar48]

Oh there's plenty to talk about especially of people like aunt Pepa who still seems to struggle with using her powers at her age vs young people like her daughter Dolores who seems absolutely in control of their powers outwardly. There was a post I saw on Tumblr that talked about side effects of their powers, including how the shape-shifting boy Camillo keeping a photo of himself in hand to reference when he has to transform back.

[@DarkFoxKirin]

Holy shit, that’s fucked… 😥

[@iamanidotbutalsoiamxavier5071]

A link to the post? Sounds really interesting

[@lunaquintero7280]

As a Colombian it fills me with so much joy to see people enjoying encanto. Finally we can be recognised as something more than just violence and drugs. It’s beautiful that the world can finally see how beautiful Colombia is and all it has to offer. Thank you Bill for reacting to this

[@yael3979]

growing up in a latine family and living the pressure they all sing about, the relationships between the characters and the fucking grandma… disney did so good with this edit: also i read on tw someone said that mirabel’s milagro was fixing generational trauma. i believe it

[@yael3979]

dos oruguitas is the bop of 2021

[@Sesameseedss]

"shes one of those working gals you hear so much about" i love how bill just sometimes sounds like he's from the 60s or something lol

[@lucar9873]

Mirabel's story hits me hard as an adoptee and a disabled person. "The real miracle would be feeling loved" got me right in the gut. I never did end up getting it, and have been estranged from family for several years.

[@oh9510]

From a stranger: you are loved

[@iceslayer1567]

“He told I grow a gut and just like he said” -Random villager “Was that his fault though” -reactor 😂😂😂

[@tereikadudley2077]

Maybe that statement made him stress eat

[@hannahappa]

‘We don’t talk about Bruno’ hits different - lin went all out with that one Also have you had the chance to watch ‘Arcane’ - it will break you (as a warning) but what a great show with brilliant animation Also hope you have a lovely end of the year - and a lovely Christmas - as a long term viewer you’ve kept me going this year and the years past x

[@SweetLitzLM]

Yes please, i want him to watch Arcane so bad!!

[@honeyhoney6920]

I agree, Arcane is incredible. :)

[@definitelyhuman2612]

YES YES AGREED

[@kariissmol9172]

Arcane is wonderful. League of Legends can suck my coconuts. Bad community.

[@pigpanther124]

I want him to watch arcane so badly, I dunno if that makes me a bad person since that show is so aggressively depressing but still-

[@supermutantsam1160]

We Don’t Talk About Bruno is so goddamn good because it perfectly encapsulates both why the family has shunned Bruno and why their reasons are, upon inspection, mostly pretty bad. You hear everybody give their personal anecdotes for how Bruno’s predictions or behavior have in some way screwed them over, but when you actually think about what they’re saying, most of it is either unfairly attributing intent on Bruno’s part or someone just assuming he’s bad because he’s extremely awkward and reclusive. Like, what has Bruno really done wrong, according to these stories? Pepe says that Bruno told her it was gonna rain on her wedding day, and as a result of her growing anxiety at the thought, her powers caused it to rain. Not only would Bruno have no way of knowing that it would be his sister who caused it to rain (his power isn’t exactly watching a point-for-point reel of how something happens, he just sees the ultimate result), but his intentions for telling her were almost certainly good. “Oh, looks like there’s gonna be some unexpected rain, better go tell everyone so they can bring umbrellas.” Dolores says that she can always hear him mumbling and fumbling, in general being a reclusive, socially withdrawn person at all times. So, in other words…Bruno is awkward. And that’s it. Camilo’s basically the same in that he describes Bruno like he’s some kind of evil Disney warlock. Seven foot frame, fades to black, feasts on your screams…he’s a goofy kid making stuff up about this person he doesn’t really know, in the same way kids would imagine the reclusive old neighbor living on top of the hill alone is actually secretly a vampire or a witch. And again, you inspect each of these examples individually and see them for what they are: superfluous misunderstandings. But the brilliant part is when you get to the end, where everybody’s parts are sung all at once. Now, where there was once easily answered issues with no real bad deed at the heart of them is this cacophony of bad impressions of who this man is. You can maybe focus on an individual line still, but it’s nonetheless just absorbed by the rest all playing out at once. That’s how this kind of social isolation happens, through this nigh indecipherable cavalcade of stories and rumors. It’s so well done, probably one of the best songs Disney’s put out in a long time.

[@Nijilove78]

I imagine Bruno became awkward after growing up with this gift that caused his family and townspeople to view him negatively. He cares about his family a lot despite these ideas and he eventually decides to leave because if his mom found out about his vision of Mirabel, she would just see the negative which would have ostracized her or even had her casted out to prevent it happening

[@hopsymopsy8352]

All but Camillo I agree with, he wasn't just making stuff up for attention or to scare. You have to remember he left when Mirabel was a child child, and Camillo is only 15 so he had to have been at MOST 5 when he last saw the man. In his mind his memories are distorted due to his perspective being altered by his age. As a kid Bruno probably seemed incredibly tall and scary because a kid isn't going to understand social awkwardness. And tbh, Camillo cant be blamed for having a negative impact on Bruno because of how little and naive he was, the real driving force of isolation for him was the adults around him who blamed him for his actions when they well knew it wasnt his fault

[@thiefpotato2759]

I disagree with your take on Camilo and Dolores. As others have mentioned, Camilo is playing this cartoony villain cuz he was portrayed as such. A child essentially representing the way that bruno was portrayed as. Dolores tbh is one of the only family members who attempted to understood Bruno. The mentioning of him mumblimg is because he is still living in the house, which no one besides her knew. She understands that his powers is a humbling experience and that he suffered because of it and how his family couldn't emotionally deal with his powers. I think it gives a sense of irony of "not talking about bruno". The shunning of bruno and not discussing of Bruno because when they did explain themselves, they seem to come off as ignorant and childish. It also upholds the premise of encanto.

[@zerothemankiller8067]

"I'm fine-" *crying* me through the whole movie after the first song

[@teaa_m.s9887]

The reason why Luisa started to dance when the house fell on her in Surface Pressure is because she saw that Mirabel started to be worried for her and wanted her to see that she is "okay"

[@isa8633]

5:51 Bill got the message of the film just by listening to the first song better than some people who watched it all.

[@katienichole6905]

This movie was so great and Surface Pressure HITS as a big sibling. Also echoing a sentiment I'm sure you've seen: I think you'd really enjoy Arcane! Hope you give it a shot even if you don't cover it.

[@sadlobster1]

Tell me about it, not only does it hit me because I'M a strong older sibling myself...but Luisa (to me) feels like a mix of Jasper and Amethyst from Steven Universe. What I mean is she's beefy, tough and strong as Jasper (not to mention as tall as her) and she has Amethyst's inner struggles

[@janice338]

Im not the oldest sibling. Im the middle child and I have 2 brothers. Im my moms only girl and we are Hispanic. I have been put on the spot to be the responsible one because my brothers have never been the "responsible" kind. Added to that is the whole concept that I have to withhold the female standard and be lady like according to my family. Luisas song was so powerful to me that I continued looking for her the rest of the movie

[@trevorbrooks7816]

The best part about the standing at the door lyrics is its actually a double entendre because when madrigals get their power, they get a door with their image that magically appears in the home for them, and hers never formed so she's describing how she felt standing at the door that never came

[@Erudessa22]

And how there explicitly *isn't* a place for her in her family home as a result.

[@roos-marijn]

I love how in All of You, Luisa, Bruno and Isabela’s melodies return for just one or two phrases, it ties it all up so neatly and shows how different it is now!

[@anthonyanderson9303]

That's classic Lin Manuel Meranda revisiting character motifs from earlier songs.

[@montrealderogatory]

"Oh that sounds hopeful and positive" on the single most devastating song. Not because of the music, but what was shown with the music

[@twix5140]

i’m glad you mentioned the whispering of the hearing gift ! there’s a theory that since their gifts are gifted as kids, they don’t know how to control it that much so she may have heard a lot of things she shouldn’t. and being a kid, a lot of things probably confused her so she asked or talked about what she heard that may not have been good so she was told to be quiet a lot. to “not talk about it” or be scolded by the adults around her so in turn she doesn’t have too many lines and is always whispering

[@hurricaneflurry6067]

Well she can hear literally everything, so I bet she whispers because of how sensitive she is to loud or any sounds.

[@Finn2315]

I just realised that she probably heard people doing ‘it’ including her parents

[@chocominttea]

@@Finn2315 💀

[@theodorky8996]

@@Finn2315 Antonio was born after she got her gift 😦

[@Finn2315]

@@theodorky8996 dolores is 21 Camilo and mirabel are 15 so she could have heard them when she was 5 or 6 years old😳

[@alex-ju2bd]

i feel like mirabel’s gift was her empathy, she was able to understand everyone and empathise with them and support them, she’s essentially the glue that holds together the family, previously the magic (represented by the candle) had existed that protected and held the family together, however they’re there for each other now (thanks to mirabel) and magic is just a bonus

[@iScreamSays]

I read a theory that abuelas power is to build walls/boundaries and mirabels is to cross boundaries/tear down walls

[@MissSirenita]

That is literally what I got when she grabbed that door. Her power isn’t something grand and flourishing that it can help the community like the rest, but a strong sense of community and empathy that keeps the family strong. That’s her power!!!

[@emilymesser2183]

I don't cry at things, but I was choking back tears when I saw this in theaters and heard surface pressure. It summed up so well what I felt as the oldest in a single-parent household, you're expected to take up the role of the second parent and help mom cope and keep up with school and since everyone in your house depends on you it really feels like you have to carry the world on your shoulders, like you are solely responsible for the wellbeing of your entire family and to admit to feeling strained or pressured would let them down or devalue you. It truly was a beautifully written and devastating song.

[@takoda690]

she was the middle child

[@sallyroslin4634]

@@takoda690 yeah she is, but when she is singing surface pressure to to mirabel she is indeed "older" but yeah your right about her being the middle child in general.

[@UnderwaterStars]

@@takoda690 She is the middle child but she is ‘the strong one’ and everybody is too busy making sure Isabela is perfect and ‘taking care of her’ while Luisa has to basically work all day and take care of the family and town. Basically what I’m saying is Luisa has to act more like a older sister than Isabela.

[@xsilentstatic1227]

Fun fact! Abuela's verse in the first song, The Family Madrigal, has the same melody as the second to last song, Dos Oruguitas. :] EDIT: It's a lot easier to understand some of these songs while actually watching the movie since the animation as the songs play offers a lot of context and even more story. I'd definitely recommend watching it if you can :]

[@star.surfer9446]

what i love the most about it is that you can see in the movie that when Mirabel is in the town, she’s fluid and graceful and dances incredibly well, and she’s confident. it’s when she’s surrounded by her “superior” family that she becomes clumsy and more drawn into herself. it really nails the point that “they’re “perfect” and she’s not” home. kinda like Into The Spiderverse with Miles!

[@darryljack6612]

You should do a movie reaction to encanto, that way you can get a feel for the songs with the imagery.

[@BritneyNicoleandMyeloma]

I cried this whole movie. And then stopped long enough to laugh, then started to cry again. "Oh, grandma's a dick" Yes, grandma is a dick lol And omg, You picked up the issues so well. It was so reflective of many familial issues so many families live with. It is by far my favorite Disney movie. Very deep meaning and great cultural story.

[@stephanievanderboom7145]

The line "always walking alone, always wanting for more, like I'm still at that door longing to shine like all of you shine" is my favourite line. I'm not going to give any spoilers, but the door is actually not a metaphor. When the members of the family receive their gift it involves a door, so she is actually talking about a physical door. Another thing, after Surface Pressure you were talking about how "the aunt who can control the weather has to always be happy" and you're completely right. There are various times throughout the movie where she isn't happy and has a little thunder cloud above her head only to be scolded by her mother. The amount of times you hear "Pepa, calm down" in that movie makes me incredibly sad. Because of her gift she isn't allowed to feel any type of emotion other than happiness and it makes me really sad. The good thing tho is that the guy she married, Felix, never scolds her for being upset, he just tries to help her calm down, and he even stands up for her when she's being scolded by her mother. She definitely picked the right guy.

[@kristina7617]

Having not seen the movie its insane how much he got right about it just by listening to the music. Really is a testament to how well the music was written.

[@Savicurlly]

If you had watched the little caterpillars clips, bet, you'd have been shook. They capture the emotions of trauma perfectly, and it's so raw and real.

[@CallMeLupe]

For me (as a Latine individual) this movie reminded me so much of my family. My grandma and and grandpa immigrated over and the pressure for the kids to learn English, to translate for them, and pretend to be perfect because they had enough to deal with within society hit so close to home. It's definitely a defense mechanisms immigrant families learn to help almost assimilate that can cause generational trauma. Be perfect so the neighbors don't talk about our family, don't give them a reason to say we should "go back to where we came from". It's a movie that is making a lot of the younger generation try to have these talks with their families which I think is just amazing. It's such a good movie, I've watched it at least 4 times now and I cried each time.

[@HeenaScribbles]

I love how well Bill can predict the storylines of things just by listening to their songs

[@dave-69]

Yeah lol

[@sidneyisacat]

16:03 Dude, trust me, you do want to watch this movie. As much as you hit the nail on the head with some things, the rest of the movie is also fantastic, and the songs are so integral to the movie that the writer, Lin-Manual, actually got a story writing credit. Seriously, watch the movie, if only for the chance to actually see Bruno!

[@BeccaBearSc]

Brunos name was gonna be Oscar Lin-Manual suggested Bruno so "Bruno-no-no-no" could work.

[@Ehmiliah]

The movie is definitely a 10/10 and if “Surface Pressure” had you tearing up, the entire movie will leave you sobbing. It’s definitely a “generational trauma” type of conflict but it’s very liberating emotionally 🥺 would so love if you could do a reaction vid to the film if you can/have the spoons for it! 💕

[@Avocattle]

Honestly the best lyric in surface pressure is “give it to your sister and never wonder if the same pressure would’ve pulled you under” cause when you give a problem to someone else to handle you just expect them to handle it no problem, but the reason you gave it to them was because you couldn’t handle it yourself, and it just really makes you think