TS 'n DC Ranking: TANGERINE DREAM

[@thisoldcompactdisc]

Great Video 👍🏻 I own 99% of TD’s catalog and I will be featuring a multi-part video on all their material released on the CD format in the next month or so.

[@AndyKing1963]

Half of Encore is live, the rest of it, including the last side were all created in the studio. It reuses part of their 1974 theatre play score for Oedipus Tyrannus

[@dirklyssens8936]

❤❤Love your review from TD. I am a huuuge TD fan for more than 40 years now. Well done. Greetings Dirk Belgium

[@jacekdzek2915]

I love Tangerine Dream.

[@stephennorris2524]

My first experience of TD was from the film The Keep, I have recently picked up a copy of Force Majeure which is fab.

[@johnkx2484]

Tangerine Dream is a magical band, no band in the world get near TD, simple the best. Ah, you might like Magnum Opus - Sinestesia.

[@larrysmith5249]

Great job - this was a big task! I’ve been a TD fan since Rubycon was released. I’ve never seen anyone try and tackle this before. I feel like I’ve heard them hundreds of times but I never considered trying to rank the ‘70s releases. I’d probably put the first and maybe Zeit as my lease favorite. Phaedra, Rubycon, Ricochet, Encore and Force Majeure as my favorites. Stratosphere just below my favorites.

[@AndyKing1963]

the sequence on Phaedra is mostly just a Moog (960) sequencer, but in one section it drops away and it's only Edgar playing bass guitar

[@kopaal7281]

Great video! You’re a gem

[@tommyfromdetroitmi123]

The movie "Risky Business" was my first exposure to the music of this group 😊

[@stephenhowes8937]

A very good beginning for new Dream fans because it contains a treasure chest of some of their peak period melodic pieces from albums like...Force Majeure (1979) Tangram (1980). Follow ups include Exit (1981), Thief (1981) movie soundtrack with James Caan. White Eagle (1982), Hyperborea (1983), Poland (1984) a double live album from their tour of Poland. Also, Edgar Froese solo albums "Stuntman" (1979) & "Pinnacles" (1983).

[@AttackFromDownunda]

A hard group to sum up, great job. I only own there debut which i really like. And have listened to Christopher Franke's music scores for the Babylon 5 sci fi series. While being an avid watcher at the time.

[@kcreeves199]

Thanks for doing this. TD is indeed a tough group to rank and you did a great job of summing all of these albums up. My first exposure to them was Stratosfear, which was the album that really got me into electronic music and synthesizers, and therefore unsurprisingly is my number 1 Album of theirs, not only of the 70s, but of all their releases. Throwing Tangram in the list, since it is much in the same style as their later 70s releases, here's my ranking: 1. Stratsofear 2. Tangram 3. Force Majeure 4. Ricochet (I really like that bizarre transition half-way through side 2) 5. Encore 6. Cyclone 7. Sorcerer 8. Rubycon 9. Phaedra 10. Atem 11. Alpha Centauri 12. Zeit 13. Electronic Meditation

[@jean-lucalborch2488]

bonjour mr vinyles j aimerai que vous fassiez une video sur les groupes instrumentaux car personne n en parle et c est bien domage a bon attendeur jean luc

[@handwritingmba]

Sorcerer is actually a great movie. Very much worth your time!

[@dominicspurrier5331]

Great review love td all up to prob tangram though the fire starter st is gold! For my money number one is rubycon but Phaedra is close. I typed this hooked up to a machine in hospital and it’s beeping interacted with the music!

[@josemiguelfernandezdemarti7799]

Only twelve albums??? We are talking about a hundred plus LP/OST career.

[@gordonblodgett6520]

Just for the Decade of the 70s. I coulda woulda shoulda gone to 1980 to include Tangram.

[@zootallures6470]

@@gordonblodgett6520 Yes, Tangram was a nice surprise when it came.

[@johnunderwood3132]

Everything you have on your wall is what I listen to. I knew you were just like me with music the second I saw your walls. Anyway the vinyls I have are Zeit Cyclone Rubycon The Warsaw concert Dream sequence Ricochet

[@AndyKing1963]

Ricochet is mostly studio, apart from a section recorded in Croydon on part 2

[@AndyKing1963]

The first 4 albums were on OHR Records, owned by the Meisel brothers and run by Rolf-Ulrich Kaiser

[@whatworld70]

3. Cyclone 2. Ricochet 1. Rubycon

[@alanlowndes8668]

Rubycon is my no.1 album close 2nd is phaedra. Franke froese baumann was the favourite line up of many fans, Branson bought a moog modular for the band when they started recording at the Manor. That's when the sequencers started.

[@gordonblodgett6520]

Interesting - didn't know Mr. Branson did that. Game Changer!

[@alanlowndes8668]

@gordonblodgett6520 he didn't actually buy it himself, he supplied the money to the band enabling them to obtain it.

[@AndyKing1963]

Chris Franke bought the customised IIIP from Bruce Hatch via Hansa Tonstudio in Berlin using the advance from Virgin Records.

[@dimitrispapadimitriou5622]

Zeit, Atem, Phaedra, Rubycon, Alpha Centauri, Ricochet, Force Majeure, Sorcerer, Encore, Green Desert

[@Yokai2510]

More of the Berlin school genre reviews. Please touch Klaus schulze too

[@AndyKing1963]

Conrad was still in TD when Chris Franke joined - sadly this lineup is unrecorded

[@AndyKing1963]

Half of Rubycon was recorded in 1974

[@AndyKing1963]

Green Desert has nothing to do with 1973, it was purely a contract filler when they needed an extra disc for a box set. A bit like Live Miles which is fake live album was only done to complete their Jive Electro contract, not a second of it was recorded in concert

[@tomscotland]

Thief soundtrack is a wonderful album.

[@pjokhan]

Sir, you forget Tangram, i will put on 4.😊

[@mournblade1066]

Tangram is from 1980.

[@AndyKing1963]

the first half of Cyclone is basically a Steve Jolliffe solo album (his words) - Steve is a great musician, but a singer he ain't

[@gordonblodgett6520]

Thanks for the additional insight. I had no idea about a lot of these "behind the scenes" details.

[@AndyKing1963]

@@gordonblodgett6520 no problem, all the best

[@zootallures6470]

My first is Ricochet.

[@IR-fl2tl]

I prefer 80’s tangerine dream

[@adampineda5460]

I respect you , but you are wrong about Cold Water Canyon. That piece is fantastic. Stratosfears has a very dark, mystical feel that i love and its aged well to this day. In search of Hades used to scare the shit out of me when me and my dad would listen to it in the dark when i was 8

[@lawrencedavis5459]

i discovered TD in the mid 70s with rubycon but it never really did much for me, i was more into kraftwerk but I really liked the exit album and then went back and listened to everything before that. I liked everthing but when albums like optical race came out I think they sounded way to digital and processed and lost the original feel.

[@stukevideo]

"Electronic Meditation" is their first albun, and has no direction. You gotta remember that T Dream has 80 some odd albums and ranking an album #12 is sort of like erecting a statue to it. The first side of Alpha Centauri is just noise to my ear. So is Zeit and Atem. "Atem" is pronounced Ah-tem. which is German for "breath". On the back of the album cover is Jerome Froese when he was a baby. He now runs the band. The second side of Alpha Centauri, "Fly and Collision of Comas Sola" is a marvelous piece, and is quite structured. It is totally unlike any other piece I've heard. The problem is that there are sound effects that occasionally drown out the instruments. No album in history is more in need of a remix. Phaedra, I think, was their first album to employ synthesizers. It's a good album but Rubycon, their next album, is #1. It was their last album to completely shun standard musical form, but is beautifully listenable. It is the band's iconic album. I commend you for making it your #2. Stratosfear, their next album, is pretty good, but makes heavy use of conventional melodies. I can't rank The TDream albums (and YOU shouldn't, either) because there's at least 50 albums I'm not familiar with. I can, however, rank the first (chronologically) 13. Rubycon (1975) Phaedra (1974) Tangram (1980) Alpha Centauri (1971) Stratosfear (1976) Encore (1977) Cyclone (1978) Force Majeure (1979) Exit (1981) Ricochet (1975) Electronic Meditation (1970) Atem (1973) Zeit (1972) Cyclone is a strange album, but noteworthy. Think of it as psychedelic punk. Soundtrack albums I don't rank, because the musicians have different goals when they create a soundtrack than when they make a listening album. A soundtrack isn't made for listening, its created to enhance a picture. Besides, TDream soundtracks suck anyway. I'm not familiar with many of their live albums, either. Ricochet is well liked, but it never grabbed me.

[@gordonblodgett6520]

Thanks for all the insight - I agree about Rubycon being the Big Album. I wish I would have included Tangram. It's also one of their best.

[@stukevideo]

Yeah, sorry to be so harsh but the first 20 albums or so are completely different and it's hard enough to rank them, never mind the 80 or so listed in Wiki. Best O'Luck! Robert@@gordonblodgett6520

[@AndyKing1963]

Jerome doesn’t run TD as he fell out with Edgar in 2006. TD is run by Thorsten Quaeschning who has been associated with the band since 2003. He is the second longest serving member of the band, after Edgar. Imho TDs last two studio albums are the best albums that the band have put out in decades (Quantum Gate and Raum are on Kscope and Eastgate)

[@stukevideo]

@@AndyKing1963 Interesting! But TD must exists in some form. Here's their concert schedule: Serralves Festival: June 1, 2024 in Porto, Portugal BOtanique Festival: June 26, 2024 in Bologna, Italy Duel Beat Club: June 27, 2024 in Naples, Italy A New Day Festival: August 16, 2024 in Kent Colours of Ostrava festival: July 19, 2024

[@AndyKing1963]

Only part of side two on Ricochet is live - the rest was composed at the Manor

[@TheTwangKings]

It this was a "ranking", it totally confused me. Thumbs 👎

[@Kanassatego]

An expert who doesn't know how to pronounce Froese's name.

[@gordonblodgett6520]

Can you please spell it phonetically? I could never find a definitive way to say it - it seems nobody else does either.

[@Kanassatego]

@@gordonblodgett6520 Edgar Froese (German: [ˈetɡar ˈfrøːzə]

[@michaelmiller3996]

@@gordonblodgett6520 How I've heard it pronounced many times is fro-zee which you can here on the beginning of Cherokee Lane. On the title track for Poland it sounds like fro-sa.

[@mournblade1066]

@@gordonblodgett6520 It's a German name, so it would be pronounced similarly to FRO-zah, although the "oe" combo is similar to the O-umlaut sound.

[@AndyKing1963]

@@michaelmiller3996 The person doing the introduction on Cherokee was the DJ Professor Mota (Leonidas (Leo) del Aguila) who was Peruvian and didn't know how to pronounce the band members at all. In as you say in Germany Froese is pronounced Fros-ah albeit the 0 sound is umluated therefore more of an OE sound. To make matters slightly more complicated decades later Edgar starting telling people his surname was Fros-ee - but Edgar had a sense of humour, so who knows. All German surnames with an E at the end are pronounced 'ah' - Franke = Frank-ah or Frank-er