[TS2022] Can an American Engineer DRIVE a BRITISH TRAIN?

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Hyce

Hyce

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@ajaxengineco
@ajaxengineco 2 жыл бұрын
As a British person I am presently very excited. You should've chosen something Great Western - because better and right-hand drive - but the BMG Black Five is a very well-simmed loco. Yes, we have hexagonal-head stays. Indeed, 45407 (your loco) is modelled in its 'modern' condition with all the modern mainline stuff. She has a twin-port regulator, as with most British locos, so you can give it 'second valve' when you want maximum oomph. The screw reverse has a modelled swing to it - I believe it's due to the die block in the expansion link pushing on the linkage. The AWS has the 'sundial' which closes its 'eyelid' when the bell sounds, and opens it in the case of normal operation. For a visual indication. The glowing bell has since made it redundant. You have to be delicate with vacuum - just an inch or two is enough for bleeding a bit of speed - the fittings are all a bit sensitive. AWS = PTC, more or less. AWS started life as Automatic Train Control - on the GWR - I.E. if your train has PTC you have the Great Western Railway's foresighted safety practices to thank for it! The token is basically a tangible object that gives you (yes; you, boy, you!) the authority to proceed over a given bit of railway. They still have them in places. The thing with the 'feeling the slip' pre-emptively is true of British locos too, you get a sort of death shudder. The Black Five has got a superheater - there should be a bit of a delay between opening the reg and the loco moving as the steam transmits from the dome, through the superheater pipes and thence to the cylinders. They were, indeed, the maid of all work on the London, Midland and Scottish Railway, and on the Midland and Scottish Regions of British Railways thereafter. However, they are just a slightly modernised copy of a Great Western 'Hall' Class, (with different valve gear) - the Halls were great so it follows these were as well.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the great comment answering all of my little questions. Is there any good GWR sims? I'd love to give them a try.
@ajaxengineco
@ajaxengineco 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 Caledonia Works has a range of GWR models (the Aberdare is quite nice as a mid-sized 2-6-0, there's also the Armstrong 4-4-0 - properly gorgeous. The website's well worth a browse.) Steam Sounds Supreme also do quite a few (recommend the 42xx/5205 pack, along with the 72xx. Massive 2-8-0 and 2-8-2Ts. They also have a nice 43xx 2-6-0 - nice exhaust beat on that. The little 48xx 0-4-2T is a cutie - comes with auto-fitted coaches.) Also get the LBSCR A1 - and both expansion packs for it. Somewhere on the webs, there's a payware route called Riviera in the Fifties which is pretty decent, as well as the Temsby Branch which is amazing. Malmesbury is good but only a couple of miles. There's the Falmouth Branch, which is ancient but holds up pretty well if you like to shunt and bugger about. MatrixTrains will stand you some nice coaches, I think CW has some Great Western wagons?
@butthead6965
@butthead6965 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 the route riviera in the 50’s has a good selection. But I haven’t played in quite a while so better stuff may be available.
@FishyFish8312
@FishyFish8312 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, The Rivera Line in the 50’s is a great route with quite realistic locos rolling stock. Victory Works also has really good and realistic engines, such as the GWR County and Large Prairie available on the shop. As an American who has driven plenty of TS GWR and some BR steam engines, you did alright Hyce! Entertaining to watch!
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
@@FishyFish8312 that's the reason I only brushed up basically... If i did it perfect every time it wouldn't be funny hahaha
@l.l.p.jverhagen5666
@l.l.p.jverhagen5666 2 жыл бұрын
That eyeball thing is called a AWS sunflower, it will show a yellow/black patran if you are approaching a double yellow (perliminary caution) or a yellow signal, it will show a black circle if you pass a green signal.
@Thunderbolt-Racing
@Thunderbolt-Racing 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you worry about being 30 seconds late to the station, but you gotta remember: this is a British railway, if you turn up within fifteen minutes of the scheduled time then that's considered excellent service over here XD
@superwaygames
@superwaygames 2 жыл бұрын
What does it mean if you show up early?
@Thunderbolt-Racing
@Thunderbolt-Racing 2 жыл бұрын
@@superwaygames It means run for the hills, the rapture is here and Jesus Christ himself is the one driving the effing train XD
@superwaygames
@superwaygames 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thunderbolt-Racing or hyce is
@apollosaturn5
@apollosaturn5 2 жыл бұрын
Who knew British railways had so much in common with Amtrak 🤣🤣🤣
@CMDRSweeper
@CMDRSweeper 2 жыл бұрын
To be a true British modern railroader, you need to keep a big solid hammer in the cab. This is your repair tool for the AWS system, nothing a few well placed whacks can do to make it both be silent and work properly! :D
@ciala51
@ciala51 2 жыл бұрын
On the first paragraph your crime is more then what life in prison can be said as a suitable punishment
@ianpidgley9720
@ianpidgley9720 2 жыл бұрын
'that' signal at around 41:50 is a Fixed Distant Signal, it means expect the next signal (or any of the signals on your line controlled from the same signal box (interlocking) to be showing Danger, its used in locations where an operating distant signal is deemed unneccessary, but it is still desirable to provide advanced warning that your approaching a stopping point... the Eye of Glados as you call it is part of the AWS system, we call it a Sunflower indicator, the AWS system is composed of a permenant magnet and an electro magnet placed in the 4 foot, an antenna on the front of the locomotive is trigged by the permanent magnet which arms the AWS to look for the 2nd electro magnet, which will only be active if the associated signal is showing green, all other aspects will result in the electro magnet remaining off, when the AWS fails to find the 2nd magent it triggers an Audio Warning (normally a horn) and a visual warning in the form of the Sunflower indicator, the driver then has around 5 seconds to cancel the warning, (failure to do so will trigger an emergency brake application) cancelling the warning stops the audio warning, but the visual warning will remain until the AWS goes over a magnet pair for a green signal)
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Oh neat! Thanks for the explanation of how it works. That's cool!
@bobingabout
@bobingabout 2 жыл бұрын
35:35 Yeah, I commented earlier, but didn't watch the whole video, and am checking back now. The black 5 was built by the LMS, a "Mixed traffic" engine, that mostly ran goods-work, but could be used for passengers when required. It was a "Bread and butter" engine in the fact that it was used almost constantly.
@thomasmiller158
@thomasmiller158 2 жыл бұрын
8:30 - 13:00 As soon as the AWS tripped, I was yelling at my screen to start a brake application as it was warning you of a likely yellow signal you had passed. Then when you said "where was the warning of that" I yelled "THE AWS!". Then when you didn't know what the sunflower was, I lost it. This is coming from the american who knows more about British rail than american rail.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
lmao, that's hilarious. If you don't know it's a warning, is it a warning? lol :P
@vaudevillian7
@vaudevillian7 2 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty cool, I’m a Brit that knows more about American rail than British (although of course I know a fair bit)
@jvroll5163
@jvroll5163 2 жыл бұрын
HELL YES. FINALLY GIVING US BRITS SOME LOVE! thank you. plz tell me if you truly liked it
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
I did! It was neat. The Vacuum brake and it's operation was kinda cool. Had I known what I now know about AWS I would've had more fun I think, lol!
@Flying_6123
@Flying_6123 2 жыл бұрын
the AWS would have been fitted during 1960s, but very few steam locomotives ended up getting it fitted, the AWS is a more modern upgrade.
@thespokanerailfanner7916
@thespokanerailfanner7916 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of like 26L air brakes and American steamers.
@firefox5926
@firefox5926 2 жыл бұрын
prety sure gwr had them fitted in like 1906 or somehtign with the ramp thing in the middel of the track ?
@Flying_6123
@Flying_6123 2 жыл бұрын
@@firefox5926 didn't know this, but more knowledge is better than none at all.
@TheSteamdriver
@TheSteamdriver 2 жыл бұрын
The Great Western brought in automatic Train Control in I think 1905 but it didn't become widespread in the GW network until 1910 it didn't have a dial like the sunflower on aws. It just had a bell that the driver had to acknowledge and I if he didn't the brakes would come on aws dates back to the fifties after the disaster at Harrow
@Flying_6123
@Flying_6123 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSteamdriver as I mentioned before, thank you for informing me, a bit more knowledge will never kill people.
@DaveP1991
@DaveP1991 2 жыл бұрын
Little bit of info for you at the level crossing at 12:47. In the UK we don't have a level crossing warning we have to give, unless there is a specific whistle board there. Those are the black W on a grey background signs. The reason you had a 10mph is that is a horrible type of crossing called an AOCL+B. Stands for automatic open crossing, locally monitored plus barriers (yes, an open crossing with barriers, don't think too hard about that!). It's the responsibility of the train driver to observe the flashing white light on the left is white not red (confirms all the lights and sirens are working) and then check nothing is on the line before, hence the severe speed restriction on approach to stop just in case.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Very interesting, and very different from the way we do it in the states.
@vaudevillian7
@vaudevillian7 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 the vast majority of our crossings have barriers rather than being open like they are in the US
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
@@vaudevillian7 Crazy, compared to what we have.
@Spanderson99
@Spanderson99 2 жыл бұрын
If I just want to run a steam train, this is my go-to scenario and route. Super pretty, and challenging to run and fire. Couple of tips if you ever want to try again: this loco is a modern excursion engine, so it has a radio, electrical system, and air brakes in addition to the vacuum. To work the radio, open the drivers side locker on the tender, you can use the Y key to “call” the dispatcher and get permission out onto the mainline. brakes on this engine are pretty weird, vacuum on the train, but steam brakes in loco and tender. The steam is controlled by the little tab just under the brake handle, you can see it pull out when the vacuum is destroyed. You can bail off the engine by pushing the [ key. There’s also an air brake lever, which in the sim just controls the vacuum level, it’s self-lapping so I usually just leave the small ejector open and run using the air brake handle. ( keys). The yellow beeping thing is the AWS system, it uses magnets on the track to let you know you’re approaching something like a speed restriction or signal. If you pass a green signal you get a nice ring, anything else and it beeps at you. You can turn on auto fireman by pressing ctrl+r, he’ll maintain the optimal level of coal for peak boiler output, so he’s not much use on this route. You can also toss in individual shovels by opening the fire door and pushing R. As for other locomotives, highly recommend the LNWR G2 0-8-0, running heavy freight trains over hilly territory with no train brakes or headlights gives you an appreciation for how crazy British engine crews were. The revamped J94 that comes with the “Return to Maerdy” route is also pretty fun, it’s probably the most bare-bones steam engine in existence, but it’s simulated quite well.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Oh now that sounds fun! I'll have to check that 0-8-0 out. That sounds a bit mad. And, thanks for the detailed primer on the rest of the loco. Appreciated :)
@oliverbooth2872
@oliverbooth2872 2 жыл бұрын
Top tip for vac brakes: running the ejector all the time wastes steam. Set the brake valve to "running" and then close the small ejector until it's just holding full pressure (21 inches mercury). The large ejector is for taking off the brakes fast. The exception is GWR engines. They had 25 inHg brakes and a single ejector combined with an crosshead pump for keeping vacuum whilst running
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, ok. That makes sense, they're both "throttable" valves I take it. I imagine they must use a fair bit of steam
@CrashJay
@CrashJay 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the Black 5 was what Henry from Thomas and Friends was modelled after!
@HimboJimbo
@HimboJimbo 2 жыл бұрын
Time for Vacuum Brake 101: 10 levels of understanding train brakes pt 2
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
lol.... let me learn some more first
@jonh845
@jonh845 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I've watched it all, I really enjoyed watching and learning from your driving techniques too, and loved your attitude and commentary. Suggestion for the next loco: WCML over Shap, and the Class 87 tap-changer electric...
@flyingdroneswiththescoob9488
@flyingdroneswiththescoob9488 2 жыл бұрын
AWS is a requirment of all trains to run on the UK mainline, the red light you passed wasn't for yourself its a crossing warning light, vuc brake applys the brakes to everything on the train while the engine brakes only apply to the engine itsself. so with the vuc brake there is a slight delay before the brakes take a effect great effort through hope to see some in the railroads online at some point :)
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the early D&RG stuff briefly had Eames vacuum brake... so we'll see. Cheers :)
@FSantoro91
@FSantoro91 2 жыл бұрын
The red signal actually was for him - it's the home signal that protects the swing bridge ahead. Trains on that line use a signaling system called RETB (Radio Electronic Token Block), a solid-state interlocking system which transmits the track authorities to the drivers via radio.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
@@FSantoro91 oh, so it WAS for a moveable bridge. Look at that! I wasn't totally full of shit. :P
@FSantoro91
@FSantoro91 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 yeah! 😅
@NorthernNewEnglandRailfan
@NorthernNewEnglandRailfan 2 жыл бұрын
Based on how quickly you figured out the DRG German steamer, I believe that you can do this.
@jaswmclark
@jaswmclark 2 жыл бұрын
I have been on that line, and also on the ajoining loch on a coal fired puffer. Both very enjoyable experiences. Durring Stubengrouper's war my father was in the Canadian REME railway operating division. Canadian engine crews were given a day or two to trace out the piping and play arround with British, French, and other european "liberated" engines and had few problems adapting.
@pootmahgoots8482
@pootmahgoots8482 2 жыл бұрын
In DV you have the snarky whistle talking back at you and now here you have the naggy AWS and Glados staring at you judgementally. :D
@jozg44
@jozg44 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyable video, and very interesting to see someone who's clearly experienced about 'trains' in general get to grips with the quirks of a British steam loco. The Black Five is one of the most straightforward and 'ordinary' UK steam engines, and the BMG model is really well done; it's one of the few that you can actually use real-world driving techniques on. I think other commenters have already filled in most of the stuff that was confusing you :) As others have said, try a GWR loco, which are their own particular sort of weird, but do at least have the driver on the other side. I'd recommend the Caledonia Works 47xx - a big 2-8-0 express freight engine. Get that rolling along a main line at 35mph with 50 loaded vans on the back and it's a rare TS locomotive that you can use the proper firing technique on - full regulator, 25% cutoff, get the small water injector set so it exactly balances the water consumption and hold the water level at about 40%, and add 20lbs of fire mass every minute or so to keep the boiler pressure 5psi below the red line and it'll do that for hours at a time - literally if you have a route with water troughs to refill the tender on the move. You might also like to try BMG's version of the unrebuilt Southern Railway 'Merchant Navy' class - as detailed and accurate a model as this Black Five but a bit more 'American' in design with high-pressure boiler, power reverser, single-valve regulator, no firebox dampers, 'single lever' brakes (still vacuum, though) and so on. A very powerful Pacific, and the wheelslip is very accurately modelled so it's fun trying to get a 14-coach train away from a stop on wet rails!
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers, I will have to check those out!
@SeaKing61
@SeaKing61 2 жыл бұрын
As a Brit I didn't realise how accustomed I had become to American railroading terms until Hyce used them in a British context and they felt oh so wrong!
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
right? ahhahaha
@eozcompany9856
@eozcompany9856 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! We need more of these, maybe something from the GWR.
@jonh845
@jonh845 2 жыл бұрын
Only part-way through but enjoying watching your take on this - you clearly know your stuff around steam locos so it's fun watching you try something that I know moderately well. Looks like a bit of RTFM on the RETB (and a few other bits) might have been in order, but hey, it's more fun this way, right? On the lack of advance warning for speed limits: on British railways you're expected to know the route, and therefore know where a reduced limit will be. Same for gradients, stations, signals, etc. That's how I view the scrolling map in TS20xx - it's providing the route knowledge for you without actually having to spend hours and hours (or weeks and months) acquiring it! The Black Five is pretty much *the* classic all-purpose British steam loco - basically the GP-40 of its time and country, and BMG's model is delightful. If you haven't already, check out the animated brake rigging...
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, I will have to check that brake rigging. And yes, here in the States you're supposed to know your route and be qualified on it or have a pilot. More studying would've been better, but, less studying makes for better KZbin. At least for a first go. We'll try it again down the road :)
@vaudevillian7
@vaudevillian7 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this, can’t wait to see more attempts at British locos and routes
@bellc09
@bellc09 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd love to see an FEF scenario done
@LexieAssassin
@LexieAssassin 2 жыл бұрын
You think that safety system is annoying? I fell into a rabbit hole regarding German safety systems... There's like 3 or 4 IIRC... One goes SIFA! SIFA! SIFA! (ZEE-FA in a more English-like pronunciation.) to ensure you're still conscious and alert. Oh, and it does it VERY often. (I wanna say like every 5 minutes or something, but I could be wrong.) Another makes sure you're paying attention to signals and what not. Another, where it exists, is basically cruise control.
@ryguygaming06
@ryguygaming06 2 жыл бұрын
The electronics in the cab were most likely there when it was in service. Black fives operated on British Rail until 1968
@alistairburgess8688
@alistairburgess8688 2 жыл бұрын
The electrical equipment is a modern addition. Some Black 5 where fitted with AWS but not that kind. The loco in the video is set up how it is in the present day with the equipment that is needed to run on the mainline. So AWS, TPWS, OTMR and GSMR.
@ryguygaming06
@ryguygaming06 2 жыл бұрын
@@alistairburgess8688 Thanks for the correction, i don't want to spread false info
@ChristinaGXL
@ChristinaGXL 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this! I would love to see your thoughts on more british locos and maybe even drive the legendary pacer :D
@csd15gamer7
@csd15gamer7 2 жыл бұрын
You did better than I thought you would well done
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
I will take that and run. LOL
@alistairburgess8688
@alistairburgess8688 2 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable video and fun to watch as a brit. I'd love to explain british signalling to you, its a fascinating subject, and I'm actually a signaller (dispatcher in US terms). I literally signalled over 70 trains today! The signalling on the west Highlands is a system called RETB, radio electronic tokenless block, its basically a 1980's computer system to replace a 1880's mechanical key system to protect the single line.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
I am a signal designer (guy who designs the way the signals and track circuits work + the logic that you guys then get to control) over here in the states. Shoot me a discord DM. That would be great to chat about! hyce#5069
@tomlikestrains4071
@tomlikestrains4071 2 жыл бұрын
I highly suggest checking out the German locomotives by 'The Forge Simulation'. They are all simulated incredibly well, probably the most realistic locomotives for this game. The creators of this locomotive 'Bossman Games' have also released the quite quirky Southern Railway 'Unrebuilt Mechant Navy' locomotives which are equally well simulated to this one and thus definitely worth a go as well.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
I will have to check those out.
@Harrodsburg14
@Harrodsburg14 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you take a stab at something foreign! Heads up though, you want to shut your tender water valves after you're done with the injectors. Water was slowly being lost from the tender when they were left open.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
There's no separate overflow control? C'mon Britain, get it together! Lol. Good to know, thanks for the tip :) i suppose that way you never have to worry about accidentally peeing away all your water if one of the hoses fails.
@jaywatchtravel6146
@jaywatchtravel6146 2 жыл бұрын
The sun dial is connected to the Aws To tell you when there is a amber or red signal up ahead
@RowanMackenzie
@RowanMackenzie 2 жыл бұрын
AOSDFIJ;OAWEHRG;OEHARGIHRE FORT WILLIAM TO MALLAIG YES Ahem, sorry, I lived there for two years, you drove straight past the student accommodation hahaha, and its so god damn rare to see anything up in the Highlands Oh god your pronunciations lol
@scotrailfan170
@scotrailfan170 2 жыл бұрын
So true as ScotRail fan it's on my to do list to head there on the Class153
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the names and went... well, this won't work at all... lol!
@ThePinkPig73
@ThePinkPig73 2 жыл бұрын
In case you were wondering; Mallaig is pronounced /ˈmælɪɡ/ (mal-ig)
@nicksayajirao1730
@nicksayajirao1730 2 жыл бұрын
The loco is a sim of a modern excursion version, the AWS would have been on the loco for the last decade of regular service, but the RETB equipment not. Also the TOPS number painted on the cab roof makes it modern. TOPS was purchased from the Southern Pacific in around 1970.
@Tristanstuff6988
@Tristanstuff6988 2 жыл бұрын
Signal: highball? Hyce: yes signal highball
@haymids
@haymids 2 жыл бұрын
a little guide to the RETB Token System. The system is in use for lines that have section of single track. It could be a little box with as I remember, a blue button, as I remember. On 45407 it should be behind you in a cabinet. It's fitted with this as this locomotive runs daily tours on the WHL (?). yeh idk you should read on the signalling system and stuff found out your channel out of luck and I'm enjoying your content :) anyway I'm gonna go sleep byeeee
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers :) yeah, unlike to do s "no briefing see how it goes" run for fun to start. Makes for a fun watch. But yeah, learning the signals and AWS for next time...
@JerzeyBoy
@JerzeyBoy 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Hogwards Express thumbnail you did.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised as hell that this was the route so i figured it'd be good
@Shed87AProductions
@Shed87AProductions 2 жыл бұрын
As for the AWS, when you go over a Yellow thing on the tracks that will trigger a magnet to send an alert that the next signal is either red or yellow depending if your following or not following.
@csd15gamer7
@csd15gamer7 2 жыл бұрын
Yay you did something British
@Shipwright1918
@Shipwright1918 2 жыл бұрын
Personally like running over the Western Lines of Scotland route between Carlisle and Stranraer. As for motive power, any of the more realistic steamers from either Just Trains or Bossman Games makes it a real challenge, and I always run with manual firing. The rebuilt LMS Royal Scot class from Bossman is a beast, makes the hills seem smaller, though the JT BR 6MT "Clan" and the 5MT are swell too.
@olliewanless3068
@olliewanless3068 2 жыл бұрын
next time can u do some more British locos cuz this vid is sick
@TheVRSofa
@TheVRSofa 2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos, you should try some of the other train sims. Watvching youd rive the harry potter train was fun :) even if you didnt notice until you were on the bridge itself haha. But yeah, should try Train Sim World, which lets you walk around. Your commentary is great bro. A uk fan!
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate!
@michaelmckinnon7314
@michaelmckinnon7314 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I prefer model trains in the physical world
@LMS5935
@LMS5935 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite video so far of yours for obvious reasons(my user name)
@jaredstafford3354
@jaredstafford3354 2 жыл бұрын
I think it be awesome to watch you try out Smokebox's 1860's Stuff since it is quite a bit different from these more modern Locos.
@alexdunn5673
@alexdunn5673 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! These awesome locomotives are so under rated.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
They are on the list :)
@hartjdr.agustin9745
@hartjdr.agustin9745 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 I’ll take a bet, it’s obviously on the month of May. For the golden spike, we see drive 4 locomotive in 4 scenarios.
@jaredstafford3354
@jaredstafford3354 2 жыл бұрын
@@hartjdr.agustin9745 it would be awsome to see
@hartjdr.agustin9745
@hartjdr.agustin9745 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaredstafford3354 oh and when I mean 4 locomotives, I mean the respective class smokebox created, (Jupiter, Buffalo, Omaha, and the 119).
@eng9725
@eng9725 2 жыл бұрын
Just a comment that ive not seen anybody else make. The other reason that the limit often seems so slow over the crossing is that the speed limit applied by signs like that at 12:31 means do not exceed this speed until the front of the train is on the crossing. At which point you may accelerate back up to the normal speed limit. You were often maintaining a reduced speed for longer than you needed to.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, interesting. Thanks!
@jonh845
@jonh845 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that. Thank you!
@AtkataffTheAlpha
@AtkataffTheAlpha 2 жыл бұрын
The passengers would be like "what is the driver doing?!"
@McFly1955
@McFly1955 2 жыл бұрын
They’ll be like Hmm must be a driver in training
@zaneymoore1
@zaneymoore1 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man.....saw this and now i know it'll be fun for you once i get sodor into UE4 (dont worry no faced locos) and you'll get to run narrow gauge up culdee fell and skarloey. oh the blursed fun we'll have :)
@laaity
@laaity 2 жыл бұрын
Im driving that engine this very moment
@alfiemunnings9397
@alfiemunnings9397 2 жыл бұрын
Aws activates at adverse signals, and needs to be reset within 3 seconds to prevent a brake application
@Pershingtank
@Pershingtank 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've not seen the sundail since I last watched my Why Trains Crash video! (Which sadly got taken down a year or 2 ago...)
@robertp-i4065
@robertp-i4065 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Fort William and i literally saw 45407 yesterday ahaahaha also the electrics in the loco are a modern safety inclusion for mainline use. :))))
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
beautiful, cheers
@QuorkQTar
@QuorkQTar 2 жыл бұрын
"Kinematic feedback" now that's a civilised term. In Germany we call it the "Arschometer" (arse-o-metre in translation) or, if need for more civilised vocabulary arises, the "Popometer" (bum-metre) 😂 The most important instrument on board a locomotive.
@QuorkQTar
@QuorkQTar 2 жыл бұрын
Oh and we'd been discussing what you called 'train handling obsession' on your side of the pond the other day. From what I know (which admittedly isn't more than "informed enthusiast level", I'm not licensed for the UK) the Brits are driving more or less the same way as we do over here. The thing with setting a bit of brake and pulling through it absolutely isn't something we'd do over here. You're ever driving or braking. So you'd brake downhill, release the brakes in time and apply power for the uphill. There are even a few locomotive classes that require pressing an override button to apply power while there's still brake cylinder pressure at the loco, while many modern vehicles have some kind of brake release surveillance reacting to brake pressure staying longer than a certain amount of time. The exact reaction and the time limit do vary with class, speed and/or additional factors, but bottom line; we don't have brake cylinder pressure and traction applied at the same time more than just transiently.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. Just want to give a smooth ride... lol! Again, I suppose it's less necessary with buffers. And, Arschometer sounds about right.... lol!
@QuorkQTar
@QuorkQTar 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 Though the buffers need to be combined with tightly fastened couplings. When they aren't, it get's somewhat of a slinky or jojo experience. Not pleasant by any means if you let it happen. It mostly was the case back when we still got old Russian sleeping coaches in some night trains. Those were often poorly coupled, because they had more allowance due to the couplers being changed together with the bogies in Brest (border between normal gauge and Russian broad gauge; you can see the process here on YT in a video called "Paris to Moscow Express wheel change", not mine). That was the only case in which I had to do some conscious train handling, which essentially boils down to two things: At braking I'd apply a very slight dynamic (engine) brake setting and let the train compress and settle behind me, then I'd slowly add braking force, be it more dynamic brake or air (train) brake depending on conditions. And at accelerating it'd boil down to not making any rushed changes in forces, everything needs to be done slowly. I'm pretty sure in that situation you'd have coped better due to routine in train handling!
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
@@QuorkQTar Interesting, that makes sense. I've heard about the gauge change and I genuinely can't believe it's done on the fly... lol!
@QuorkQTar
@QuorkQTar 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 Don't worry, I've shoved those cars a fair mileage through Germany, I've used them as a passenger as close as some 150km from that border and I still think it's totally surreal 😂 It just *sounds* so trainset-like, doesn't it.
@US100redneck
@US100redneck 2 жыл бұрын
that bridge looks like one from the game World of Tanks Westfield map a little less destroyed though
@andcrafter4790
@andcrafter4790 2 жыл бұрын
I love British steam locomotives, they look so elegant, whereas american locos are much more fierce looking.
@F4wk3s
@F4wk3s 2 жыл бұрын
Unicycle lion haunts my dreams
@N00N01
@N00N01 2 жыл бұрын
Next shunting in folkestone harbour with a pannier, youl get lost
@realisticjoseph
@realisticjoseph 2 жыл бұрын
Try an LNER A4 on the west coast mainline
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
I think that'd be quite fun :)
@jordonfreeman166
@jordonfreeman166 2 жыл бұрын
40:41 Where’s a flying Ford Anglia when you need it?
@skrep359
@skrep359 2 жыл бұрын
Well isn’t this just the definition of cursed. hEy, WhY iS hE nOt DrIvInG tHe BiG bOy?!?
@nerfspartanEBF25
@nerfspartanEBF25 Жыл бұрын
oh hey, pretty sure this is the engine that Henry from Thomas the Tank Engine was based on (post rebuild)
@briannem.6787
@briannem.6787 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you drive an Australian loco at some point. Is there even any in Train Sim? If there is, that'd be cool to see.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
No idea, I'll have to look around!
@symarvel4836
@symarvel4836 2 жыл бұрын
It’s smoother than a USA loco
@danieleveritt4086
@danieleveritt4086 2 жыл бұрын
The eyeball is your warning to slow down for lower speed limits and station stops and signals
@Hamthe110
@Hamthe110 2 жыл бұрын
The 9f class is probably my favourite loco would be curious to see what you thought of it
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a good simulated version of it?
@ajaxengineco
@ajaxengineco 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 there's a really ancient one which I'm not sure is even still readily available - I think somebody is making a new one but don't quote me there.
@arkilos2253
@arkilos2253 2 жыл бұрын
Now I would love to see you run a Japanese steam train. But I’m not sure if there is one available sadly.
@williamsexton970
@williamsexton970 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to bring this up but redoing the entire railroads online will delay the maps, new factories ,and the locomotive/coach/freight cars tech tree. I do hope you all can do this without more problems arosing. I do hope you can keep the original look of the locomotives that is the same as their irl counterpart Sorry this bugs me too
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be sorry, that's not the truth. It's not delaying anything. We have to re implement the locomotives and cars anyways for the spline update so them being redone is no matter, as they're already complete and ready for implementation. They look better than the originals, in my opinion, so it's a net gain.
@williamsexton970
@williamsexton970 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 OK by the way the Morgan 3rd pair of driving wheels is more distance apart from the rest so when I saw 0-6-0 porter tank engine you lot gonna put in I actually laughed when saw the same thing with porter tank engine 1st pair of driving wheels
@scotrailfan170
@scotrailfan170 2 жыл бұрын
These LMS and later BR where the best mixed traffic engine till the Class 37 and do the route in Malliag and Fort William route over the bridge that is the Harry potter shot with the Hall class that's so wrong as it's GWR But you where doing the Scottish route in Highlands these engines still run on railtours AWS or Automatic warning System was warning you of the red signal ahead and was later added to the loco in years and whistle aren't ment to be blowd at level crossings
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
gotcha, cheers!
@scotrailfan170
@scotrailfan170 2 жыл бұрын
No problem work on historic line my self if you want more nollage second if you do Brian again always hit AWS in under 2.3 seconds as they are before signal
@crazyjack3357
@crazyjack3357 2 жыл бұрын
On that that sim I know sometimes the signals screw up one time I started a route waited 3 hours to get a green so I ran it and ended that route
@legdig
@legdig 2 жыл бұрын
This is an inversal of my previous comment "I know where everything is and it does not put the fear of god in me" Have a good time hyce?
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Yeah, I did. It's a fun locomotive to run, well simulated. I think now that I've learned more about the AWS from some of the comments I'd have an easier time with it, lol.
@zefreak
@zefreak 2 жыл бұрын
If I can request a locomotive to try, please make a video on one of Smokebox old locomotives such as the 119
@inotsmarty5700
@inotsmarty5700 2 жыл бұрын
IMPOSABLE! 😳
@IsaacDaBoatSloth
@IsaacDaBoatSloth 2 жыл бұрын
totally unbyased opinion but the brittish asthetic of locomotives is truly some of the best. However some do state its almost impossible to oil due to stuff being on the inside
@firefox5926
@firefox5926 2 жыл бұрын
31:might help if you turned omn boths tender valves i think there a tap on both the left and right side of the tender ?
@lucaskulmann
@lucaskulmann 2 жыл бұрын
this is british rail notorious for being late 30 seconds late is counted as early 5 minutes late is slightly early 10 mins late is on time 20 mins late is when it actually starts to be late
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
so for Amtrak I have to be plus or minus 24 hours of the arrival time?
@lucaskulmann
@lucaskulmann 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 sounds about right
@JonathanColemanTrains
@JonathanColemanTrains 2 жыл бұрын
You should try and play train simulator 2021 and do the Hagerstown Md to Hanover Pa line and play train sim world and play the Horseshoe Curve.
@vaudevillian7
@vaudevillian7 2 жыл бұрын
Have you driven Smokebox’s early US locos for Train Sim? They’re incredible
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
I have, and they are!
@firefox5926
@firefox5926 2 жыл бұрын
42:13 i believe its means take the next right ? :P
@aaronharrison3801
@aaronharrison3801 2 жыл бұрын
Just starting watching this this is going to be oh so funny an American trying to deal with health and safety gone nuts haha
@aaronharrison3801
@aaronharrison3801 2 жыл бұрын
Ah he’s spotted the billy haha how do you stork tea in the billy then Hyce?
@aaronharrison3801
@aaronharrison3801 2 жыл бұрын
Well that was the funniest thing I’ve watch in the history of my KZbin watching you did pretty well but I’ll say if you were a fireman in the lms days you’d be sacked for that safety valve going off they hated water and coal waste
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how you stork tea in the billy. I don't even know what that means :P hahaha. Oh I'm sure, but at least in the real thing you can actually see and manage the fire... lol
@aaronharrison3801
@aaronharrison3801 2 жыл бұрын
Excuse my autocorrect there buddy that should read as stir 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣 and yes the awe system made me laugh especially when it applied the breaks on you it’s designed so if the driver has a heart attack or is incapacitated in some other way the train stops the earlier versions though were just the sunflower the electrical is the newer part of system apparently the flying Scotsman even has usb charger ports on and although I can’t speak for full size I know the miniatures I own it’s pretty much a gentle crack of the regulator and drive on your reverser it’s been years though since I’ve been near a sim so I can’t say if it works on them
@yaboidspdadon5838
@yaboidspdadon5838 2 жыл бұрын
Not into British trains really but that is 😎
@Train115
@Train115 2 жыл бұрын
You should drive a Big Boy on British rail
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Lol that would get people going I'd bet lol
@LukeLovesTrains-Mr.RailYard
@LukeLovesTrains-Mr.RailYard 2 жыл бұрын
Can you run the LNER 4472 Flying Scotsman, Hyce? I think you will like it.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a good simulated version of it? Take me back to my MSTS days :)
@lordsherifftakari4127
@lordsherifftakari4127 2 жыл бұрын
not a lot of weight on those drivers but then brit loco's aren't known for being heavyweights
@vanitazazas
@vanitazazas 2 жыл бұрын
The answer to your question is NO. Because no one manage to drive a train on the wrong side 😅
@farmsimfan7160
@farmsimfan7160 2 жыл бұрын
hyce the AWS warning was for the red signal you passed at danger
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Someone else said that it was for the crossing? not sure. it had a 5 MPH limit right after so it may have been that.
@farmsimfan7160
@farmsimfan7160 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 ye sit could have been but in the uk there is nearly always an AWS ramp prior to a signal that alarms you if that respective signal is adverse
@AJ-170SkyStriker
@AJ-170SkyStriker 2 жыл бұрын
Ayo it's Henry
@FM60260
@FM60260 2 жыл бұрын
8:47 Fixed distant signal, as with a distant signal assume the next will be a red and prepare to stop and... 9:50 no you weren't. TSW would have ended there and if that was me driving I would have probably said "oh sh**" just like the Pacer driver in the SPAD training video. Also, what do you mean by the bridge being out of correspondence?
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Was wondering if it was a moveable bridge? That was the only thing I could think of that would've had a red signal associated with it that i ran past. Though I've since learned the UK has some bizarre grade crossings. Lol. Out of correspondence would mean it did not have a contact closure stating that the moveable bridge was in position.
@FM60260
@FM60260 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 Is contact closure the same as interlocking?
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
@@FM60260 it's a component of interlocking, yes. To allow a route to clear across a set of points, or movable bridge, you'd need to have the detection contacts closed to show correspondence, or "we can verify for sure this is safe for this route". It's the first check in interlocking.
@theanthillmob1989
@theanthillmob1989 2 жыл бұрын
No but he might be able to fix it if its broken.
@AtkataffTheAlpha
@AtkataffTheAlpha 2 жыл бұрын
40:41 on the way to Hogwarts! The same bridge the Castle Class 4-6-0 locomotive decorated as the "Hogwarts Express" rode on for movie shots
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I was so surprised. Recognized the hell out of that, lol
@grantlastname379
@grantlastname379 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it was a Hall Class, not Castle
@AtkataffTheAlpha
@AtkataffTheAlpha 2 жыл бұрын
@@grantlastname379 oh. My bad. I get them mixed up sometimes since it's the Hogwarts Express going to a castle when in reality it's not. We can all agree that it's a British 10-wheeler though
@firefox5926
@firefox5926 2 жыл бұрын
you ever watch thomas the tank engine ?
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid
@firefox5926
@firefox5926 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 you should rewatch it sometime maybe as a cinamasins style "heres this problems with oing that" video lol
@alexwood5425
@alexwood5425 2 жыл бұрын
Don't understand why train drivers are referred to as Engineers.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it comes back from the early days where the engineer would need to be well versed in his engine to ensure the train made it over the road back in the rugged days of the west. Was more than just a driver. These days that's not true, but the term sticks.
@jonh845
@jonh845 2 жыл бұрын
If the driver of a chariot is a charioteer, then the driver of an engine is... ? :-D
@susanpcarter
@susanpcarter 2 жыл бұрын
LNER YAY
@saulhernandezquiros1197
@saulhernandezquiros1197 2 жыл бұрын
For my is dificulta to drive a american train. And the trucks are very long so is hard to get that goods moving.
@bobingabout
@bobingabout 2 жыл бұрын
you call that engine lovely. It's a crap colour, but... since I'm British, this is what I consider the standard, which is why I find American locomotives to be kind of ugly. For starters, what American engines have on the outside, with all those bars and rods and things, are hidden under the body of a British locomotive, giving a much more sleek and smooth appearance, then usually coloured in very nice and well polished colours, like red, blue or green, with details like the whistles and bells in brass, and highlights painted on like red stripes. Look at Thomas the Tank Engine as an example, that's typical of a British locomotive.
@captain_will.
@captain_will. 2 жыл бұрын
The questions not can it should a us engineer drive a br loco
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
fair
@ThatE4
@ThatE4 2 жыл бұрын
Btw since u struggled to say stanier I'll help you out. The proper pronunciation is this: Stan-knee-er. Wierd spelling but that's how its said!
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Oh interesting. I've been pronouncing it long my whole life! What else is new. lol. Thanks for the correction :)
@ThatE4
@ThatE4 Жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 no problem hyce!
@billyrueckert5113
@billyrueckert5113 2 жыл бұрын
Ye olde fart in the driver's seat :)
@brendanswain939
@brendanswain939 2 жыл бұрын
Not accurate enough, your teeth are still healthy.
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