Which Lancelot Form Is Better Overall? FRAUD WATCH EDITION

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[@Marcusstar-kd6zn]

I never imagined Lancelot would be put on FRAUD WATCH 😭. These dark and crazy times are truly tragic. I do not wish this on my worst enemies 😔, even if Lancelot ntr has king and deserves punishment, but not FRAUD WATCH.

[@-THE_META]

Lancelot and Saberlot by extension, is like the Gohan of the Round Table. He should be taking all the wins but he usually doesn't have the dog in him. Berserkerlot has that mad dog in em built in. If Saberlot got over his guilt issues and had the drive to be that ideal knight again he would show up. We have all seen it, if a Servant has a shadow of a doubt they tend to lose by a hair. Most of Saberlots showings are in a Singularity where he was constantly second guessing himself and not wanting to be there. So I think it literally comes down to the Master, not even about mana values or anything like that If Saberlot has a Master who can help him get over the sense of guilt and shame that pervade his character I think he would beat Berserkerlot by a hair.

[@drfeelshattan]

well said lol

[@carlosgarza400]

Sometimes Fate just does servants dirty Sometimes

[@Solus_Shrakas]

I just want to know what will Berserker Lancelot react when he meet Mashu

[@johnmorrison519]

Instincts will kick in

[@agent8589]

Instincts might kick it maybe but i think he'd rage

[@SpideyfanX]

Probably be a better dad than his Saber counterpart.

[@g04234]

Well his wish for the holy grail (according to my room lines) concerns galahad he will probably feels a huge amount of guilt but will be protective overall. It would be more interesting to know galahad alter's opinion from fate requiem (not classic galahad because we know he will just be disgusted at his dad for his maddnes and say he brought this outcome upon himself)

[@robiihsan4788]

Ironically in fgo fanon say's Mash more liking berserker lancelot than saber lancelot

[@moosupernova]

I wish Lancelot could get his wins, but ngl I was dying at Hassan of the Trembling Pipe. Just wait til HotTP drops on FGO as the only Hassan to rival The Old Man, Tsiah lmfaoooo

[@Sujisakamoto]

Lancelot lowkey suffereing from Kashimo syndrome...

[@m.k.o7610]

Hahaha 😂😂🤣🤣

[@ObiC]

LMFAO

[@azavierjones543]

High tier servants in manga absolutely Unstoppable takes half the series to deal with them High tier servants in the games for they're probably getting nerfed, but they're ultimately still respectable High tier servants In the anime, they get a cool fight, but ultimately, they lose Hi Care Service in visual novels, and yes, I'm including fgo God forbid they learned a lethal hit on their opponent God forbid they're allowed to look cool on screen God forbid they get something more than a statement

[@bigocelot4002]

Saber Lancelot used his For Someone's Glory NP to sneak and one shot Arash, a high tier Archer with rank A Clairvoyance . The only reason Arash survived is because he has an EX rank skill that buffs his endurance, and he was still mortally wounded. Don't forget that Lancelot sword has a passive of raising all his stats by one rank when drawn from its sheath. He would still be as strong as his Berserker self if he goes all out.

[@Leonardovideogoes]

under dog, when it is recognized it stops being under dog

[@carlossique9604]

I just hope that Saberlot will get the shine he deserves just how Tristian got shine in the lost belt when he fought against the member of the Sakura five

[@kringytingy2033]

I will defend my goat saber lancelot for life

[@UKT13378]

Lancelot, no matter how cool he is, isn't even a part of the earlier iterations of Arthurian tales. He was literally the Original Character, Self Insert of a French Author. Of course he is going to be portrayed as the strongest, in those myths.

[@hasseo195]

Isnt that Galahad to?

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

no Lancelot is the weakest character made by that author

[@g04234]

Not the strongest he is the most chivalrous but the strongest is gawain if we discard arthur

[@darkshotgun209]

Is that supposed to be a bad thing

[@allthatishere]

4:31, Damn, alot of hate for my boi...

[@nervmeister]

Lancelot = Arthurian Karna. .....with all the negatives that implies.

[@onifunashu4126]

That's why I love them BOTH

[@darkshotgun209]

That would be a really cool fight to see animated

[@AloyImpact]

To be honest. I would be happy if they made him an Avenger in FGO he’d be cool as fuck

[@potential1327]

Tsiah IV, do you mind making a video on "how strong is Hakuno Kishinami" from Fate Extra

[@MySkinIsntMine]

If we're talking about dead face Hakuno, then yeah, I'd say pretty strong, but if its the game's Hakuno, that'll be interesting

[@shauqiharris2772]

Hakuno in the game is average at best but pretty well written Persona protagonist.

[@vader1481]

To add to agravain feat I guess we don't even have details how he won tbf if agravain showed actual strategy using life experience(he died to him before) it could be a valid win but no details exist

[@g04234]

Didn't he won in the game by taking lancelot by surprised by giving himself maddess enhancement

[@justsomeguyonhisphone709]

Maaaaan, for Lancelot being on Fraud Watch is just tragic

[@dudeonfire8283]

Well, berserker for sure, saberlot is cool and all but i like prefer mf when he isn't stable.

[@blaneonthemoon2507]

All of this reminds me of my take on morgan in lb6. Stop telling me she's as strong as the other lb kings, show me. But they never got to it.

[@Shiro_Sora]

She has banner right now

[@blaneonthemoon2507]

@@Shiro_Sora hope you got her if you summoned. Mine was already np 2 but i dont use her much.

[@damcashineae6462]

but you can't deny when berserker lancelot mounted that jet in FZ he became the coolest servant.

[@eolyneherlentzlefay7945]

It's almost 4am and you got me laughing and almost falling oof my bed at the huge emphasis on "TREMBLING PIPE" 😂 Rip Bozo

[@samblindao5421]

He is like a Mandricardo If he was old. Love dadlot

[@Aesc_the_voyager]

13:56 LOL what kind of name is that, that is hilarious

[@Flamelance_Accendo]

Not the Trembling Pipe lmao

[@BigLeek1998]

I gotta go with berserker, every time. We berserker loyalists out there 💯

[@onifunashu4126]

Yes he looks weak and *FRAUD* because Nasu hasn't allowed him to get much screentime. You already know how great Lancelot's screen time was even though he only appeared once and made a hot topic for the next 2 weeks like people cooking up Liverpool's defeat in Man United hand even ass-ing a whole round table.

[@onifunashu4126]

May I add something (a lot). Saberlot actually has a lot of plot holes so far and the story will always have something new that has never even been told. If you look at the story and existing sources, it is certain that Nasu took references from Le Morte d'Arthur, the edgiest version of Arthurian in my opinion. If you think Lancelot's story is limited to the strongest knight in KoRT and his affair with Guinevere. No fuck that. You are very wrong. Lancelot has many stories that are even close to big spoilers for other Arthurian and knights of the round table stories. Are you aware that Lancelot's birth mother is never mentioned in Fateverse and seems to be hidden. Lancelot's mother was a descendant of King David. Now, in case you don't want Lancelot in Camelot because he brought down Camelot and he's a sucker. Vivian should have let Lancelot be with his biological mother or let him die. I will provide the fact that Lancelot was not fostered, but was stolen from his biological mother who is still alive and continues to look for her child on the edge of the lake every day even though he is not alive. This comes from the Vulgate version, yes, French prose. There's more, Gwenbaus. The brother of Ban and Bors who is called the wise clerk. In the Vulgate, it turns out he was also a wizard and necromancer and hung out with people like Merlin. Gwenbaus is a person who bewitches a forest so that trapped people keep dancing until they die because of love with a woman. The magic didn't even disappear even though Gwenbaus had died. In that forest, Gwenbaus also sealed Ban's sword and crown there until Ban's rightful heir son came to wear the crown. Well, I wouldn't be surprised if Lancelot suddenly could use magic or suddenly Lancelot has the Sword of Courechouse or Coreiseuse in the Fateverse. (Dayum. Gwenbaus is not a trivial wizard. Even his social circle is at the level of someone like Merlin). Look, does it make sense that someone could turn an anti-army NP into an anti-unit NP with C level prana control? (Luckily, in 2022 Nasu realized his mistake and *changed Lancelot's prana stat from C to B* at the second edition FGO Material IV). Lancelot has a burden on his body due to the side effects of Arondight being used inappropriately. What would happen if the "body" in question was his magic circuit? (I don't know if the servant has it or not. But I don't think the servant have one. But the concept is almost the same when you control prana beyond the body's limits, your body will feel very painful). Do we have the same feeling if the Knight of Owner Lancelot's technique is almost similar to a type of projection technique where prana flows into weapons? (Looks like I've fantasized too far) Then there is another story and one of the wars which I think was a big disgrace for both Camelot and King Arthur. Introduction, *Camelot vs Sorelois*, King Arthur against King Galehaut. Believe it or not, Camelot should have been destroyed earlier because Galehaut wanted to control Camelot. Camelot suffered two crushing defeats even though they had Excalibur in their military. I thought this wouldn't be added until Gareth showed up and put Galehaut's name on his profile (Oh my God. Nasu. Are you serious?). 1If it weren't for Lancelot, Camelot would have been in Galehaut's hands. I think this is the moment when Lancelot just unleashed his strength 100% because even King Arthur himself was overwhelmed against Galehaut's troops which were 100 times larger than Camelot's. There are more. Galahad actually was Lancelot's old name which was given to him by his parents. Then the figure of Galahad was born again to replace his father who was labeled a failure. You can imagine Tonelico and Castoria at Avalon le Fay (the case is almost exactly the same). If Ritsuka felt hurt seeing him just replaced and dumped without other people remembering his good deed, Lancelot was full of that all shit and yeah... Lancelot just accepted that reality. You can call him a fraud like Furina Genshin Impact before 4.2. But I'm sure the value will increase even more when Galahad and the other knights of the round table appear in FGO.

[@evanbuckner4518]

Berserk is king don’t talk to me saber

[@shauqiharris2772]

Do don't sleep on Mandricardo.

[@mythicsnap594]

Don't suppose if I asked nicely tsiah I'v could do some recaps on events in fgo ? He's literally the only place I'm picking up on lore as I can listen reading entire chapters in fate grand order is hard 😭

[@xanthosamoni2072]

Great video and I'm on the side of the Zerker for this one.

[@williamrincon476]

I would say Berserker because in the fate zero event for FGO he actually beats Gil, that said Waver had to set the fight up so Lancelot would not be distracted by Artoria.

[@vader1481]

Am actually curious narrative wise in either fgo story or a future fate story in general if lancelot is actually finally showcased properly i guess saber form and beats someone like Achilles or someone i dont really know someone naned in this video or something how can we judge if its truly legit is it now too late will people just pass of said win as bs

[@kristianschuff1723]

Thing is Lancelot wasn't even originally part of Arthurian legend He is a French self insert that was added much later This may explain why he's so inconsistent compared to the other knights.

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

@@kristianschuff1723 thats a bad argument given that arthurian legend changed drastically over time with many of the knights we have such as Galahad and more being later editions

[@kristianschuff1723]

@@durrangodsgrief6503 yes but original knights are still going to have more myth to add to their power

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

@@kristianschuff1723 yes and no the oldest ones would have few actual shit and most would be forgotten and hidden under the newer variations or would have little to actually go on as latter writers expanded upon this its like looking at a book into a library

[@kristianschuff1723]

@@durrangodsgrief6503 except arthurian began all the way back in the 7th century while Lancelot wasn't added until 1170 in some versions but not all. Regardless that's 4 centuries of extra mythos that the other knights have over Lancelot especially when those are where the majority of the legend was made.

[@John-Stark]

Honestly, it's essentially Control vs Raw Power Saberlot is of clear mind, easier to control and guide and come up with tactics with Zerkalot you just need to Break into an Armoury and hope Artoria is not in the War

[@greyhood3447]

I feel like lancelot strongest class should be lancer since I'm fairly sure in the mythology he's stated to be the greatest with a spear amongst the round table and I think gawain was the best swordsman but I could be wrong on the latter

[@JakeMatthews-OnLo]

I need him to bathe or drink the blood of Albion just to see what’ll happen. Also ironic the son the witch raised with good intentions was the one who helped collapse the kingdom.

[@kohakusora7474]

Personally i feel he's genuinely just held back by writing. He should still be the best but people like memes and plot.

[@xstationo11]

Tsiah, If I join you on KZbin member or patreon, how do I post my suggestions; and which of the two are you likely going to answer?

[@TsiahIV]

patreon is easier on both ends and helps keep things regulated. just dm me

[@xstationo11]

@@TsiahIV Okay

[@uselesshero.official]

Best Lancelot in fgo? It's Ruler Melusine now. 😂

[@icyhugs]

Well, I got Saberlot carried with through the whole damn Solomon arc with Diarmuid :D back in the day, justice for my men

[@TheStuffEnjoyer]

You know, the only serious feat Saberpot and Saber Gawain have, is both beating the Calamity that was the Black Dog Tamlin Gawain after she went super sayan. But even then he didn't do it alone.

[@minhtranquoc8122]

LANCElot is best in lancer form

[@boxier7gaming]

Can King Hassan be a Caster class servant if so what would he be like as a Caster?

[@aidenharris5296]

Why would he ever be anything other than assassin bro is the literal concept of it my guy

[@negate4828]

I could see King Hassan as a saber but anything else no

[@boxier7gaming]

@@aidenharris5296 The guy he was based on Hassan I Sabbah(probably butchered that) founded an entire school of Islamic teachings from what I've read about him hence why I asked if that aspect of his historical counterpart could qualify him for the caster class kinda like how Gilgamesh has his wise king caster version based off of Gilgamesh after his journey for immortality.

[@Leonardovideogoes]

favlritism blinds the eyes

[@straypaper]

Lolilot

[@mousemessiah]

Agent69 on the ropes oh nah

[@DynamiteBlues]

Hey I was thinking to myself Berserker Lancelot was fighting gilgamesh I was like Berserker can make any weapon his on how about the chains that can hold a God in he had that under his belt would he beat most characters

[@gdshark9558]

Fraudalot?😭

[@eddy9615]

Ok

[@hasseo195]

I bet on Saber form^^

[@francisvaughnsoltes6115]

😮

[@otakunemesis34]

Attempt 123 of asking you to do a video on white wolf's age of darkness

[@Hakelous]

I want Lancelot zerk no Helmet outfit

[@johnmorrison519]

13:46 sosuke aizen?

[@m.k.o7610]

Yeah

[@agent8589]

Berserker>(im a saberlot hater)

[@ericx6969]

ca you do mysterious heroine xx summer please lol

[@PeachDragon_]

The best Lancelot is a dead Lancelot, traitor

[@Recon-601]

Honestly Lancelot was called the greatest swordsman and jouster of his time period and was definitively stronger then the other knights of the round in his mythology, he probably would've worked better as Grand Saber and just not had appeared until recent events with how dirty he's been done in the stories.

[@kouyang3375]

Lancelot what you are seeing is my normal state and this is to go further and beyond ARHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@Leonardovideogoes]

Lancelot is one gary stu and galahard is super ultra gary stu

[@JD_Xly]

Damn lmao

[@joshuapaige5728]

This is why I push the Gawain agenda 🫡

[@francisvaughnsoltes6115]

😮