TSM ImperialHal opens up on getting DOUBLE CONTESTED & GRIEFED by Teq in ALGS Pro League..

[@daksman]

KICK: "why he say fuck me for?"

[@daksman]

5:02

[@kevindelgiudice2352]

Catching strays 😂

[@Marshinsbro]

😂😂😂

[@xReisk]

Hal trying so hard to not apologize for lying about Teq its crazy

[@tawiadennis]

Agree. Just because their game plan is “brain dead” in his mind doesn’t mean to start drama

[@Blazingbrii]

I also agree but it’s just ego getting to him when what he needs to do is just focus up on his game plan for algs cause they should workout plans if they don’t secure the car cause at the looks of it they won’t perform well if he also falls from his ego

[@homeschool4u951]

I can’t read Teq’s mind, but it does seem like Hal bruised his ego by challenging them for L-Rod, and his inability to accept his inferiority as an IGL/team led to petty behavior.

[@llamathewhite2758]

I would call it team diff overall, I agree it bruised his ego though.

[@akuzmo809]

No way ur that dumb to think Hal is inferior to teq💀💀

[@DevinHeida]

I don't know if it was hal or the TSM fans. The amount of comments I read about people being pissed about MEAT "contesting" TSM at lightning rod was absurd. Not realizing that it was actually TSM who were contesting. All the comments going on about how teq is a nobody and is only contesting for clout yet again not realizing they're the ones defending it.

[@buddhastl7120]

@@DevinHeida^THIS^

[@bleach7958]

⁠@@DevinHeidathat’s why I hate TSM fans. All they do is glaze and can never except criticism. If TSM does good in scrims, it’s only compliments. If another team does good, they chalk it up to “it’s just scrims”. Like DZ for example, they’re dominating rn and the average TSM fan will just say that they aren’t going to make champs lmao

[@chiefeeefff408]

Hal is so immature. He contested someone and got mad they fought to the end to keep it. Teq can play the game however the hell he wants, even if it ends up losing his PL spot. Just cause TSM is one of the best teams doesn't mean they don't have to deal with contesting and beefs. The real problem is Hal not apologizing for spreading Luxford's now disproven rumors about Teq, that's just unprofessional on top of all these silly complaints.

[@buddhastl7120]

They use their monopoly of content on KZbin and everywhere else to get their fans to bully teams like Teq’s and act like this isn’t the exact reason of these videos

[@bleach7958]

TSM frogs not gonna like this one chief

[@bottomtier3823]

Losing your PL spot because of this is wild af, deserved

[@sapientboy7557]

That's my take too. Teq can play the game however he wants. If he wants to throw his chance, just for some bulls**t ego, then it’s his choice; who is Hal to question about this? Hal started to contest Teq's POI knowing that he might do this type of sh**s as they had contested TSM even before this tournament. Trash talking is one thing but spreading baseless rumor about someone and not even apologizing after realizing all of this, is just immature behaviour.

[@frank10pez94]

No mid to low table team should ever consider contesting a top 5 projected team. Even if the contest is 50/50.

[@Prophiq]

BRD smacked G2 when people thought BRD was a mid to low lvl team

[@mynames7664]

@@Prophiqyeah but BRD was one of the best fighting teams in the game with shitty macro. Teq’s team is just shitty at both

[@713Memory]

@traida111you are as delusional as Teq. Scrims are practice against all the best teams and he chose to contest and die the majority of the time in the first minute of matches. Make that make sense

[@JohnJohn-bz1lq]

@traida111no lmfao this is to practice poi for pro league if you do well, you qualify for lan then how will you do in lan determined you’re going to ALGS but After split two, there’s a thing called last chance finals were the teams that lost the losers bracket and teams that didn’t qualify for lan have a chance to make it to the championship

[@fzxio_]

I wouldnt say 50/50 but yea they we’re contesting out of pettiness clout and ego they just fked tsm and themselves instead of actually practicing they could have gotten better but now they lost their best player they went down hill

[@leecook6267]

Digging this content man. Makes me laugh. And makes watching algs sooo much better 😂

[@diaperamess]

god, hal is so fucking bad at articulating his thoughts

[@davidgenoway8889]

He really is haha. He knows what he’s doing in apex, he knows how to lead a team in apex, but MAN his articulation is awful lol.

[@hunterdavidson2502]

its hard to be smart and explain in a world full of idiots. hals mind is always thinking and thats why its hard to stay on topic and flow.

[@Uafoe]

Bro his bilingual so I give him a pass it’s not his first language

[@elchingon12346]

@@Uafoedon’t group the rest of us bilinguals with him. Some people are just bad at articulating, usually due to a lack of practice. Hal never does these strategy streams

[@jjusa00]

@@Uafoebilingual has nothing to do with it. He sounds like a big run on sentence every time he tries to explain anything

[@mynameisstanliandimasinger9622]

6:00 can someone geniunely explain why its wrong to block the team rotating behind you, I mean as long as theyre not inting them its not griefing and it seems like it makes sense to hold them? For example when I play ranked and gotta move trough a choke to get into zone, Im gonna hold the choke until Im certain that no Team will movew in behind me.

[@RilesPC]

Slows down your own rotate in the process. MEAT was pretty famous for gatekeeping people on their rotates, then finishing in like 15th every game because they aren't able to rotate themselves afterwards.

[@fhy0550]

from my understanding about griefing if u make a call, but u know the call will not let u to win the game or get high points and still decide to do it, that's griefing. holding choke is not problem, but if the call fucked ur team and the enemy team like getting 1~3kp with 10+placement, that's the problem

[@mynameisstanliandimasinger9622]

@@RilesPC but was that really the reason theyre placing 15th or are they just shit, cause that would mean only good teams are allowed to gatekeep rotates which is dumb

[@HooksUSD]

Because your not playing to win that way.

[@RilesPC]

Gatekeeping rotates the way that MEAT did effectively ruined their own games. Good teams don't do it as often because they don't find themselves in the scenario to begin with. And when the do in fact do it, it's because they can afford to and aren't on the brink of relegation.@@mynameisstanliandimasinger9622

[@edwardarias9575]

Bro Tsm is obviously the better squad, but the fact that Hal gets pressed that other low level squads challenge them is the dumbest take ever. Just beat them and move on. If anything people are gonna grieve tsm more now since it obviously pisses Hal off.

[@davidgenoway8889]

He does provide a valid point though, there’s absolutely no point in spending an entire off season focused on an established, and experienced team with your newly formed team. The whole point of off season is to get your team playing together, which Teq used to essentially get revenge on TSM instead. That is a huge waste.

[@daicy6674]

He’s more upset they were just being being a nuisance then them being a challenge. He talks about how they would take their car but they would still manage to meet each other even tho they would be way faster on rotates. I think Hal is mad he wasted 2 months of actual training just for the other team to grief and back out the day before pro league. Hal feels like teqs team was just focusing on griefing them instead of winning.

[@davidgenoway8889]

@@daicy6674 that’s exactly what it was. They didn’t care about pro leagues whatsoever and rather than just move on, decided to ruin another teams efforts. Which frankly is a real shame, because there’s plenty of people, myself included, who would like to be good enough to compete in it.

[@fzxio_]

Your forgetting the point meat contested contest are mostly luck and landing skills who gets the guns most meat contest wind are mostly when tsm didnt find a gun or got beat to it, so its not practice meat needed the practice and land somewhere else they just ruined their own practice matches by contesting instead of finding their own place to land then in pro league they grief even more by taking the car and getting them killed there good player left the team bc they cared more abt clout instead of playing they have been doin bad ever since

[@jasonharperpoetrypieces9723]

​@@davidgenoway8889cap you should listen to teq pov

[@khangis]

might be the ceo of apex, but bro got double digit iq outside of it

[@Blazingbrii]

Bro needs to focus up for LAN cause the real challenge is coming with DZ and Blackhand , Alliance

[@Sir_Saint_1]

Moist is strong as well.

[@Cardo_03]

Disguised ????

[@Blazingbrii]

Don’t get me wrong there good but go back and see the past algs those teams where no doubt the best and moist is getting hard carried by guild and dsg crumbles under pressure they been only popping of 1 game out of 6 in the scims lately and design is igl so I’m not doubting his capabilities but he can micro enemy and Timmy is Insane but to Agro at time when they should just play more tight they only pop off if the timing on their 3rd party is good and that just leaves for to many variables

[@derrickkelly5108]

Fast and furia!

[@getsume]

What Hal is saying is facts… This is considered PRO LEAGUE aka the nfl/nba of the esport the top league so by doing this for 2 months + of your training has its up and downs more downs than up but it does prepare your team for off drop fights and fights in general because you now know you can compete with one of the top teams. But overall that decreases your endgame experience by too much imo you aren’t making it more than that team and you are decreasing your possibilities of doing so. Which you need if you have no former experience. Why would you not want to increase your chances for the endgame aka where the most points lie? That is where the revenue and tournament placement lies is winning games. They should’ve left after Luxfordy 1v3d Tsm that would’ve been forever haunting. And ppl would be saying what if they kept contesting instead of why?

[@Cpt.Hodges]

Teq’s POV is on his Twitch and is a much better and more composed response to all the recent “drama” and his thought processes, than Hal’s incoherent rambling and venting here. It’s 25 mins and is worth the watch.

[@Jricle1]

link

[@DevinHeida]

​@@Jricle1KZbin doesnt allow links anymore and sadly itll likely never get posted because it won't generate enough views which then as well only let's hals opinion be heard

[@alexdoyz998]

So you’re arguing that he’s not playing that way because of ego, but didn’t qualify based solely on not being good enough? Fair point

[@Reaperherpderp]

Teq is the typical engineer. He is booksmart but doesnt have a single bit of common sense. If anyone has worked with engineers they tend to think just because something works on paper it will work in practice

[@deathtool1]

TSM is not doing bad at the macro level, their rotates, positioning, poi is really good on sp. They are doing bad because of horrible individual mistakes/decisions. Raven needs to get Hal in check, he is mad about all the wrong things, not looking good overall.

[@llamathewhite2758]

The TSM macros are mountains better than a lot of teams above them on the leaderboard. Your comment is based

[@saucegotti9416]

It’s been bad valk outs into zone and just having a shit spot

[@passthea1369]

@@saucegotti9416 perhaps if there wasnt a knuckle dragging neanderthal taking a two centuries to do anything on edge of map holding them out everytime they wouldnt need to valk ult so blindly. im not gonna stand here making excuses for hal either. but with that being said tsm's macro is so strong because it can afford them to make these minor errors or take a "bad fight" but come out on top because of their armor/loot difference. teq was legitimately throwing a wrench in that by causing so many rotational problems for them they never used to have. so those tiny mistakes were compiled by being late/ missing a player beacon/ not having an evac tower cuz teq loots 15% of their poi getting car/ etc etc. without teq in the lobby im betting on TSM again. thats for damn sure

[@mynameisstanliandimasinger9622]

Isnt griefing when you ruin your own game just ruin another teams game? I dont think taking the car is greifing, its more like taking a Kraber from a Loba shop when you already have one just so you dont get destroyed by another team taking it, it just makes sense not to gift anything to a team your competing against.

[@lumina4807]

That's trolling, griefing is just only trying to ruin their game

[@mynameisstanliandimasinger9622]

@@lumina4807 nah this doesn't make sense cause that would mean knocking one guy from far away is also griefing

[@xMankii]

@@mynameisstanliandimasinger9622 it is, if you get sniped by a random guy 100m+ causing you to lose your 1v1 you can 100% say "I got greifed by this random", what you're referring to is Inting(intentional throw) thats when you just send a team not caring about repercussions (could also be defined as greifing prolly where confusion comes from)

[@mynameisstanliandimasinger9622]

@@xMankii so then griefing is just nothing bad, its just part of the game

[@xMankii]

@@mynameisstanliandimasinger9622 essentially yes, it’s just very frustrating so you hear people complaining about being greifed a lot in basically any game

[@ryan555.3]

Pro player plays mind game. Hal: 😮

[@justzooken2649]

Hal really struggles to string a sentence together

[@mrbaboy]

he has signs of being a keyboard warrior...in this case controller

[@dwabsir747]

I think Hal understands with hindsight that it was fully calculated and he did massively bad

[@B2theOOZLE]

I clicked on this because I was genuinely curious about TeQs mindset for contesting. I assumed he just griefs every team that he is next to but its funny to hear that he really does do that. Faze straight up hates TeQ.

[@dariyenjones8909]

So the way I seen it was Teq off season strat would have been useful if once they got the 3v3 contest practice and reps in with your team to a certain level then moved POI a while out before Pro League to work on the rotates and all that …… the drama and attention just got to big that he over stayed

[@caivibe2575]

Anyone else think Hal needs to be on a movement character? Bloodhound offers little escapability and Hal plays him like he can. Bang or even Wraith would be way better for him…. Idk, seems like he’s over extending and getting into horrible positions with no escape and little LOS on enemies.

[@RilesPC]

I understand that Hal and Teq don't get along, that's fine. Hal deciding to include his tens of thousands of die hard fans along the Teq hate train is just something a shitty person would do.

[@clifft2269]

So Hal can't be genuine because he has fans? Get lost...

[@spottyboi024]

To be fair, Teq was also shit-talking Hal and TSM whenever TSM did bad or Meat lovers beat them on contest. Teq was doing the same thing Hal is, Hal just has a bigger fanbase

[@RilesPC]

Hal's involvement in the Luxfordy situation is pretty inexcusable. Idk how you could defend that. He has nothing to do with what happened to MEAT's roster.@@clifft2269

[@passthea1369]

everyone in the apex community is so soft lmao no press is bad press.

[@danielfahimislam3166]

It’s pretty fucking fair considering the fact that they dislike each other, and especially after all Teq has tried to do to Hal & his team. You’re being very fucking stupid here truth be told. Why the fuck can’t someone talk shit about someone they genuinely dislike lol.

[@jasonharperpoetrypieces9723]

Why only post hal pov and not teq make you seem like your running an agenda

[@tawiadennis]

So hal is mad teq game plan was mental game: thats why he said those lies about teq. He’s trying so hard to not apologise for the drama he started

[@tpd1399]

What the hell am I listening to

[@dogetube-7193]

On god😭

[@iFluxyy]

"He just shot himself like 5 times in the foot. Like 3 bullets each" 3x2=...5? Hal math 😂

[@tonilaseng4620]

5 times, 3 bullets each. Read that slowly

[@leecook6267]

😂😂 funny shit man. But that was nt his fault it was Evans that he said that 😂

[@iFluxyy]

@@tonilaseng4620 it was implied by mentioning shooting yourself in the foot, that by "each" he meant foot, and not burst

[@aaronmcdowell1587]

Maybe his feet were crossed for one of the shots. Hal just thinks that far ahead.

[@mene8306]

​@@tonilaseng4620he collat his feet

[@leecook6267]

Has nobody told this guy its all fair in love and war. Hal sounds like hes needing more excuses or pre excuses i dunno.

[@fzxio_]

Is he not allowed to say something bc its all “fair love and war” like tf does that even mean😭

[@leecook6267]

@fzxio_ wow you sound as smart as Hal. Brain damaged. Google it you might learn something.

[@gamerboy2014]

It is definitely not their fault they placed so low in the split. 😂 That is Hal's reasoning I guess. He was too busy thinking about Teq making more money while playing ALGS as a hobby. Lol

[@fzxio_]

@@gamerboy2014 i mean them playing it like a hobby also made them place low maybe they couldve been a good team if they spent their time practicing instead of promoting 🤷‍♂️ hal didnt become most watched cuz he contested the best team supposedly

[@Daivd1111]

Griefing or not, Teq did make himself famous by doing this, I wouldn't know who he is otherwise

[@robamerica5039]

I HOPE teq's teammates have a good Job like Teq because Brodie does not care for his apex career 😂😂😂

[@MuchSauce]

What's teqs job

[@robamerica5039]

@@MuchSauce pro....sti.....tute 😂

[@DevinHeida]

​@@MuchSaucehes some sort of engineer. Guy makes 6 figures.

[@jasonharperpoetrypieces9723]

​@@MuchSaucework for nasa or some

[@jaredg473]

rocket scientist @@MuchSauce

[@hanhdrew]

feel bad for teqs teammates tbh I get he has a good job and hes set but its selfish for his teammates who actually want to win and depend on their competitive earnings

[@DeussEx]

TeQ had said on Gnaskes stream that Meat double contesting TSM was more of his teammates idea than his.

[@hanhdrew]

@@DeussEx that doesn’t matter if the final say is up to the igl. Instead, they chose to do it for months after tsm already offered to go launch pad if they left lava siphon. And if Lux was happy with how they handled it he wouldn’t be trialed for a different team.

[@johnnysilver5866]

Hal started the grief, he left his POI to take Teqs, simply because he doesn’t respect teq - TSM grieved meat lovers. Hal failing to recognize this makes 100% sense

[@itzhoro]

You don’t understand. Grieving is not the same as contesting. Grieving is doing something just to be a nuisance or bother another team with the purpose of not playing the game, winning nor taking advantage for your team, it’s just to make them fail purposely. It’s anti sportsmanship. In BR, Contesting is valid and pro sportsmanship, which means literally contesting to see who gets the POI to play it. If a team is better than another one, they contest for a better POI off start, that is valid and a smart way to do stuff

[@avinashmihindukulasuriya6224]

You're missing his point. Hal's saying that after all that contesting for 2 months straight and to bitch out at the start of the pro league is a waste of everyone's time. If you contested for two months just do it in pro league, instead of trying to play mind games with the greatest team in Apex. That's just outright dumb.

[@itzhoro]

This guy Teq just wanted TSM to fail. And it is messed up because grieving like Teq did could make TSM fail not in a “fair” way if you can say that. Is like trying to make them not win or something. Now, remember that TSM needs to make earnings to be sustainable. Basically, it is like Teq trying to destroy a career (TSM’s). Now THAT is messed up

[@Prim_guns]

Since when was contesting a poi a grief that makes zero sense and this thinking is the reason why the definition of griefing is up in the air.

[@goodfella328]

It's the logic of TSM fans though.

[@jdatin770]

Oh no they played the game Edit: literally the whole time hes just describing them strategizing

[@danielfahimislam3166]

Trolling*

[@mrbaboy]

That's part of the game though! You want to grief/sabotage/irritate the enemy to get him off his game. Unfortunately, it doesn't work out for MEAT and company.

[@Ittakessometime]

Love you Hal blah blah blah have Evan switch caustic ????💀

[@jasonharperpoetrypieces9723]

Hal reaching with alot of this and gossips like a school girl so lame

[@Vxyyyvz]

I’m ngl I can’t watch this shit for more than a minute. It sounds so brain dead, need me some verhulst gameplay in the background lmfao

[@mistaboumboum4862]

This might be a wierd take, but I think TSM is relying wayyy to much on Raven. The coach should just help with stategies and rotation, but it lokes like he tell to much how theu should play and it is messing with them. They should rely on their individual talent way more.... now they can't even win a 3v3...

[@goodfella328]

LAN is gonna be so good now, Hal's basically saying he would have won it if Teq wasn't contesting. So will be fun watching TSM get 1st at LAN! XD

[@jasonharperpoetrypieces9723]

If they can get to lan

[@ItsMadzHD]

TSM needs to figure out what comp to play and not to throw like they have been since S20 came out lol

[@Blazingbrii]

Yo Hal needs to understand he’s top dawg and this man is a nobody after clout that never even places bro need to forget about teq and get that trash out his mouth and focus up

[@Dannnzzy]

cant take any igl seriously who uses crypto, theres a reason why no crypto team has won lan or for that matter done well consistently

[@foohenry]

Crypto teams have 1000% done well consistently what are you yapping about

[@Dannnzzy]

1 team out of the top 10 overall rankings for algs 2023 is a crypto team, some do well until when it matters towards the end of tournies and fail because it isn't good enough against the top top teams, you see apac north teams using crypto and doing well in the regular season simply because 10/20 teams in each lobby has one so they'll place well, when it comes to intl events, they fail. that stats and placements do not lie

[@MuchSauce]

Been knew that meat team wasnt gonna amount to much sicne they first tried to contest tsm. Even when they would win the contest, they would rarely have good games

[@DevinHeida]

Except you, like many others have failed to realize it was tsm who were the first to contest meat. Yes meat afterwards contesting tsm on WE but that was likely part of the griefing process. Tsm contested meat.

[@cousinpac]

Love it or hate it, Hal is right and hes probably the best mastermind of Apex

[@nasty_slxme4570]

Yip yap

[@ccurtonizea2883]

bluds yapping

[@einarvaalund3566]

This channel is the biggest TSM propaganda machine. At least 70% of the vids are either talking down other teams or another TSM meatrider clip💀

[@ziontaylor6460]

Paid actors from DZ😂😂

[@tormented_emperor]

You cant poke at a hornets nest and complain when you get stung afterwards. In my opinion what did Teq even expect was gonna happen when he challed the most decorated Apex team in the world. For him, it was contesting, griefing, and even trolling at certain points, but for every single member in TSM, most especially Hal, he takes this game very seriously, day in and day out. The off season isnt even off season for him because he wants to bring his best every single time. So the fact that Teq wasted their time and his own team's time for around 2 months, and is now complaining that Hal is angry about it is just braindead

[@sapientboy7557]

Then tell Hal to deal with it inside the game, why is he bringing it outside the game? Tell him to stomp Teq's team so hard so that he never even think about messing with TSM. Why Hal is crying about this outside the game while everything is happening inside? To top this up, Hal started spreading baseless accusations against Teq and acting like he's innocent when he realized that he screwrd this up.

[@tyg_zoomerz7554]

LOLZ DEZZ HALL HATES GOT ME WEAK ABOUT WORRIED FOR LAN WE CAN STOP PLAY ALGS FOR 3 YEARS AND DZ AND BLACKHAND AND ALLIANCE WOULD NOT HAVE THE AMOUNT OF TROPHIES LOLZ. CANT WAIT FOR LAN BECAUSE EVERY TOURNEY ITS THE SAME HATE AND EVERYTIME WE PROVE THEM WRONG

[@gabrielPKBboy]

Idk but Hal just comes out like a child who doesn’t get his way in this clip. He was just complaining while insulting.

[@shanebryant6478]

firsT?

[@apexballer7789]

Last unfortunately, everyone left mate

[@tatopolosp]

​@@apexballer7789 I don't think anyone will comment here

[@senseivayne401]

@@tatopolosp u sure?

[@rebornvirgin]

the real reason they stopped contesting is bc their only good player left bc he got tired of playing for a team who doesn’t care about winning

[@jasonharperpoetrypieces9723]

Cap he left and they did worst then meat

[@foohenry]

What’s ironic about that is meat actually got more points with Hyzeq than Luxford

[@nathaniel1847]

Teq is a horrible person and worse player

[@mayojarr6243]

Holy shit you have no idea about this situation and that hal is way in the wrong that's crazy

[@IEscI]

​@@mayojarr6243bro teq has been doing this for 3 years

[@fzxio_]

@@mayojarr6243how sounds like hals team took their landing for better loot and knew they were bad so hap knew it would be easy and meat got mad and decided to ruin both their practice matches by contesting and loosing most of them now both teams are doing bad in pro league for it and instead of contesting they decided to take their car and block them out they are griefing out of pettiness

[@jasonharperpoetrypieces9723]

​@@IEscIcap teq has always been a solid player and igl his teammates getting poached constantly the only reason he is not more accomplished imo

[@jasonharperpoetrypieces9723]

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