Fixing The Goku Black Arc So It’s Actually Good

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TSO_Sage

TSO_Sage

Күн бұрын

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@SavantPete
@SavantPete 2 күн бұрын
Mark: "We are going to keep Zamasu as is" Sage: "Booooo" Mark:"...but we're going to remove Super Saiyan rage entirely" Sage: "I'm listening 👀"
@2ueceFrmSTL
@2ueceFrmSTL 2 күн бұрын
@@SavantPete 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@yearobb1
@yearobb1 2 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@bloody4558
@bloody4558 Күн бұрын
I would actually change Zamasu as well, not change, as in change his character to something else, but in the way of, writing an entire reason behind his hatred of mortals that goes beyond just "I don't like that they don't change that much".
@UniCops
@UniCops Күн бұрын
@@bloody4558 at least, instead of just wanting to destroy ALL mortals, have him want to create his OWN mortals. "I was gonna create a perfect world... in MY image..." Trunks (taking a quote from EMH Hulk): "That's the problem. You're ugly."
@treanmunt1420
@treanmunt1420 2 күн бұрын
My main problem with the arcs ending is WHO TF TAUGHT TRUNKS THE SPIRIT BOMB. KING KAI? DEAD GOKU?
@BigSteve9713
@BigSteve9713 2 күн бұрын
Me
@komarunaegi7460
@komarunaegi7460 2 күн бұрын
BigSteve9713 did
@arpadszabo661
@arpadszabo661 2 күн бұрын
The spirit bomb is a huge plot issue, but its nothing compared to the Zeno button
@christopher4249
@christopher4249 2 күн бұрын
The best narrative canonical meaning connection that I could come to behind as towards why he could use the spirit bomb martial arts disciplined technique is most likely because of future shin unknowingly teaching him the various key instructions & ki controlling quality methods that an supreme kai apprenticeship in lengthy monumental training goes through just like how zamasu was able to learn to develop his ki to divine levels in capabilities during his own personal guidance with the U10’s supreme kai gowasu.
@miguelzepeda9086
@miguelzepeda9086 2 күн бұрын
We all know supreme kai one of the most useless characters in dbz. He is literally there to glaze the sayans and majin buu. Supreme kai would not get trunks anywhere near ssj 2 power levels, let alone mystic gohan levels. To assume he did anything to lead up to the biggest ass pull of the series is akin to being as sorry as supreme kai
@2ueceFrmSTL
@2ueceFrmSTL 2 күн бұрын
5:39 Sage : " 'cold take' who tf said it was hot?😂 " Also Sage, 9 seconds prior : " Hot take, don't fuck wi the intro " 😂😂😂
@trickshotingpanda5276
@trickshotingpanda5276 2 күн бұрын
i was js finna comment that lmfaoooo
@sideman236
@sideman236 Күн бұрын
But in all seriousness the intro was good and shouldn't be change
@SavantPete
@SavantPete 2 күн бұрын
I love the concept of Gohan Black. Narratively it makes sense and it would be nice to see Gohan actually do something in an arc
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
We dont need Gohan black. We alr got it in SPZ. Even if it was in the main series, it just is worse than Goku Black as a character. Rose ontop
@SupportGamin2025
@SupportGamin2025 2 күн бұрын
Goku black is Cool bruh it's not that bad 😂
@bigbird1775
@bigbird1775 2 күн бұрын
@crashtime3429 with how mark’s version goes addressing all the time travel fuckery and his verse giving the character of gohan more relevance, it’s way better than the dog shit we got.
@arpadszabo661
@arpadszabo661 2 күн бұрын
I swear ya’ll see one okay what if scenario and immediately start yapping about how it would’ve been better than the original idea with the single argument of “at least its Gohan”.
@FK74396
@FK74396 2 күн бұрын
@@arpadszabo661 It’s better because it forces Trunks to confront his first failure and allows Gohan to step up as a more prominent character.
@JakeTylenol
@JakeTylenol 2 күн бұрын
Wait so Goku spares Frieza, flies away, Frieza proves he’s never going to stop trying to kill Goku, Goku kills him quick and to be honest, doesn’t even kill him, But for some reason Gowasu and Zamasu are horrified by Goku’s actions? I mean damn Goku seemed pretty justified even by God standards
@juicy5251
@juicy5251 2 күн бұрын
He could’ve deflected the blast he was more than strong enough but the point is that he initially killed him out of anger which is out of character for the goku THEY saw
@juicy5251
@juicy5251 2 күн бұрын
It proves the point of that the pure hearted most righteous of mortals still in fact battle out of malice
@commander8237
@commander8237 Күн бұрын
By killing frieza, Goku's giving credence to the notion that some people refuse to learn and they're better off dead. That just happens to be exactly what Zamasu believes
@mcscissorface7756
@mcscissorface7756 Күн бұрын
Goku had selfish reasons, that was the problem. Plus the majin vegeta shiit
@JakeTylenol
@JakeTylenol Күн бұрын
@@juicy5251 no, that’s not what happened. Goku gave Frieza up to 3 chances to leave him the fuck alone, faced with his body cut in half he still didn’t stop, Goku killed him when there seemed like no other way to get Frieza to stop. In fact so much to the point, because Goku didn’t put all his power into it cus he didn’t want to really kill Frieza, Frieza came back and tried to kill his friends AGAIN while Goku wasn’t there I feel like any reasonable person who saw that whole fight as Mark implied would come away going:”Yeah Goku, you had to do it”
@kamerafreak3492
@kamerafreak3492 2 күн бұрын
I mean the DBZ special Future Gohan surviving the Androids made sense. They couldn't sensw him being alive and more important they saw him as a plaything, a source of entertainment to cure their boredom. Killing him off immediatly would go against their motivation. Taking him out later when he has just 1 arm makes more sense since they're basically throwing their broken toy away. Also Future Gohan was only strong enough to match 17 at 50% while uninjured so it's likely that they thought he'd be too boring to keep around if he can't use his full strenght
@mastertjt56
@mastertjt56 2 күн бұрын
Lol, his hatred against Rage Trunks his hilarious 😂😂 Brother wants him GONE
@thewolfbeast816
@thewolfbeast816 2 күн бұрын
We all want him gone
@Mysticshosh42
@Mysticshosh42 Күн бұрын
We need beast and rage gone those form are so ass and such bs power ups
@mastertjt56
@mastertjt56 Күн бұрын
@@Mysticshosh42 beast is cool, hell nah
@Mysticshosh42
@Mysticshosh42 Күн бұрын
@mastertjt56 Nah that shits just as trash as rage I hate beast
@UniCops
@UniCops Күн бұрын
​@@Mysticshosh42 When Beast appeared: "Hey there handsome~" When Rage appeared: "H-Hello, asspull department?!?"
@dralx2042
@dralx2042 2 күн бұрын
54:03 the funniest part is that we know 17 has Super hearing, but couldn't find the mothafucka breathing Hella heavy RIGHT BEHIND HIM😂😂😂
@Plantermeduse
@Plantermeduse 22 сағат бұрын
I think people forget that villans usually forget in DB to kill/make sure that there opponent is actually dead. This is not the first time. Krillin, Mai, Future Gohan ,Trunks, etc.
@julianh.5372
@julianh.5372 2 күн бұрын
Manga Goku Black arc is sooooo much better than the anime admittedly. It makes sooo much more sense. Its clear that Toyotaro went much closer to the manuscript than Toei did.
@yellowviper357
@yellowviper357 2 күн бұрын
.mm
@orenges7034
@orenges7034 2 күн бұрын
I wonder what’s more believable . In the anime, Goku forgets the jar In the manga, Goku forgets the seal
@nebbia2453
@nebbia2453 2 күн бұрын
@@orenges7034 He got the wrong one in the manga, he didn't forget it.
@BrotherSam2010
@BrotherSam2010 Күн бұрын
​@@orenges7034bruh how you gon forget the jar when it was literally your main card in the manga is more believable
@julianh.5372
@julianh.5372 Күн бұрын
@@orenges7034 He didn't forget the jar in the anime, he forgot the seal. They spent half an episode fixing the stupid jar in the anime because it broke smh. The manga he brought a dirty magazine clip which makes more sense and Goku doesn't seem at fault because it's believable that Roshi would have that in his house
@hvmblx
@hvmblx 2 күн бұрын
I personally prefer the Goku Black Saga in the manga. Things seem clearer and make more sense than the random moments in the anime.
@freddieadams8435
@freddieadams8435 2 күн бұрын
Bonus no super saiyan rage
@poofyfox6751
@poofyfox6751 2 күн бұрын
The start of the anime is better imo, but the manga story is insanely better, especially avoiding bs like ssjr and zamasu 'fusing with the universe'
@thewolfbeast816
@thewolfbeast816 2 күн бұрын
Me too,especially since there's no ssj rage
@destroyer5689
@destroyer5689 2 күн бұрын
Nah rage is way too good of a transformation to leave out
@freddieadams8435
@freddieadams8435 2 күн бұрын
@@destroyer5689 what is it then?
@Luissv72
@Luissv72 2 күн бұрын
Me after the intro: "THEY CALL HIM THE WHAT?!"
@tamag141
@tamag141 Күн бұрын
ngl the xenoverse version of sword of hope made more sense since it was alternate universes giving him the energy for it might be wrong but eh that my opinion🤷‍♂
@UniCops
@UniCops Күн бұрын
And that was so hype, like, it almost balanced out the plot hole completely
@adamquenano8563
@adamquenano8563 2 күн бұрын
Honestly it would’ve been better if it was the Gohan Black arc in sparking zero. You have Gohah go with Trunks to the future realize he has actual worth in the past and have this motivate him to train hard and live for his family to have a future.
@MarioSonicBee
@MarioSonicBee 2 күн бұрын
I think Gohan Black would be cool as a connection to Trunks but besides that, I honestly prefer Goku Black. It really takes the MC and his power and makes the main cast go up against that. In essence it really just is “what if Goku went full evil” but good.
@yellowviper357
@yellowviper357 2 күн бұрын
but hes just zamasu
@bigbird1775
@bigbird1775 2 күн бұрын
But it’s really not Goku though , when Zamasu takes over there’s not a single character trait that links back to Goku in a meaningful way.
@MarioSonicBee
@MarioSonicBee 2 күн бұрын
I’m more so talking about the visual and the concept rather than the actual character of Goku Black. It gives us the best idea of if Goku did hate mortals and what would he do. How would going up against that power that saved them so many times in the past be like. That type of thing
@dragonluck777
@dragonluck777 2 күн бұрын
​​@@MarioSonicBeeexcept it doesn't because he doesn't fight or act like goku, listen you don't have to explain your opinion, you just like evil goku and that's fine but honestly gohan black does more interesting things with trunks's character
@youssafeJaja
@youssafeJaja 2 күн бұрын
@dragonluck777 gohan nah
@jasperzombwolf5422
@jasperzombwolf5422 2 күн бұрын
Thing is is kai trunks isn't too far off as he did train with the kai's till majin buu arc in his timeline, he, atleast in the manga already had a few kai abilities, even welding the Z-sword himself when fighting Deborah. (Fun fact) though wouldn't that mean beerus doesn't die or is their a whole thing that has to happen to link him to beerus.?
@GregSmithIII
@GregSmithIII 2 күн бұрын
Chat needa leave Mai alone. What is the obsession? Jeez... EDIT: And whoever said "Super 17 > Zamasu" in chat is smoking a laced pack 😐
@yellowviper357
@yellowviper357 2 күн бұрын
what they say
@GregSmithIII
@GregSmithIII 2 күн бұрын
@@yellowviper357 Chat harping on Mai dying as if her presence changed anything. Her being alive or not makes no difference. She's NOT a driving force for the arc. She's literally just Future Trunks' love interest. It always annoyed me. The first this happened is when Sage reacted to the manga version of the arc and chat was tripping.
@AlmightyStoryTV
@AlmightyStoryTV 2 күн бұрын
@@GregSmithIIIfact
@Robos-yt5gj
@Robos-yt5gj Күн бұрын
@@GregSmithIIInot deep😊
@MrJtYates
@MrJtYates 2 күн бұрын
This series (and Sage's reactions, by extension) is my KZbin life right now
@castform7
@castform7 Күн бұрын
The random Sage crashout at the Androids not killing Gogan is so valid. They *wanted* to kill him, rained down ki blasts and even if they moved, a quick scan in the area should tip them off to the tall man in the *bright orange gi.* There was no game, there was barely any excuse, and it's just another showcase of DB fans not actually watching their show.
@LucidPhoton
@LucidPhoton Күн бұрын
43:05 not a fan of that. Also My head hurts so hard with the gymnastics Mark is doing to justify Zamasu using Gohan's body. This is mark's writing style, "let's make things more complicated than they have any right to be." I admire him for thinking outside the box but this is too much, this would not be a fun anime to watch sorry lol. Literally sparking zero's version of Gohan Black was superb. Either make the story more align with that or just have it be Goku Black like normal with a few alterations to the narrative.
@Aoijinsei
@Aoijinsei Күн бұрын
To this day I still truly believe that one of the bigest fixes to the story would have been to have stuck to the theme of the tension that was starting to build between goku black and zamasu. If you remember, they were becoming less alike as the story progressed, and they started becoming more distant due to goku black's saiyan instinct of fighting beginning to overwhelm his desire to follow through with the "plan." I think that would have been a nice way for them to introduce some kind of betrayal in which goku black is somehow able to absorb zamasu unnaturally or steal his power. That could then remove the necessity for them to fuse, but also remain a much stronger threat. After that, you can go anywhere with the story but I think that would have been a nice way to circumvent the fused zamasu situation, and keep goku black in the spotlight.
@5001Fergies
@5001Fergies 2 күн бұрын
someone said zamasu googled who has the most potential and gohan came up in the results 😂
@fishnutz5196
@fishnutz5196 2 күн бұрын
Fixing the Black arc? Easy. Just read the manga version.
@indo5059
@indo5059 2 күн бұрын
He already did
@levievil9220
@levievil9220 Күн бұрын
Yet that also has problems
@fishnutz5196
@fishnutz5196 Күн бұрын
@@levievil9220 it has problems but its leagues better than the anime version of the arc
@levievil9220
@levievil9220 Күн бұрын
@ yeah true if I were to make the arc I would obviously use what works for both and alter details if needed
@fishnutz5196
@fishnutz5196 Күн бұрын
@@levievil9220 what would you change about it personally?
@aYtto
@aYtto 2 сағат бұрын
I love the thought of Zamasu just trying to choose his main so he can wipe everybody
@andrewfox5663
@andrewfox5663 Күн бұрын
Titles like these rub me the wrong way. Even if I know it isn’t intentional and is being used almost entirely for clickbait purposes, it feels really disrespectful to the original creators, especially given how the entire internet was hailing Toriyama as the patron saint of Shonen basically the whole month after his passing. It’s much easier to “correct” a story in hindsight than it is to write it “correctly” the first time, and I feel like not enough people acknowledge that.
@5001Fergies
@5001Fergies Күн бұрын
its funny u mentioned the fightheads who consider sealing mickey, because the second mark mentioned it someone in chat went “mafuba mickey” 😂😂
@5001Fergies
@5001Fergies Күн бұрын
i feel like if ur gonna make a character immortal, you literally have no choice but to seal them, because if they get killed they were never actually immortal, they were just really durable which is even more underwhelming in my opinion, because that just means everyone else was too weak to realize this dude wasnt actually immortal. its kind of just a dumb idea to make a character immortal in the first place unless theyre literally zeno because now you have only have 1 way to beat them without going “oops hehe i lied he wasnt actually immortal i just didnt want him to die yet”
@commander8237
@commander8237 Күн бұрын
I think the mafuba is the best ending regardless. The whole arc he keeps yapping about how hes acting out of the good of the cosmos so him being defeated by a technique used to seal demons is a really nice touch
@UniCops
@UniCops Күн бұрын
@@commander8237 but we're Dragonball fans! We want epileptic seizures from all the laser beams and shit!!"!!11!!
@OGGuuse
@OGGuuse 2 күн бұрын
53:54 the sage crashout lmao
@mrlowkey4187
@mrlowkey4187 2 күн бұрын
My one criticism is that the Z-Fighters losing to Black and Zamasu in the original story was already a hard sell since they could've won the first round. But now the new scenario is asking to to accept that they would lose again *with* Gohan bolstering their forces? If Goku and Vegeta jump Black while Trunks and Gohan ping pong Zamasu, the arc is over. How can the fight last any further than that? On top of that there's a 2nd round with an even stronger Goju and Vegeta?
@Gweezy12
@Gweezy12 2 күн бұрын
I think were you sorta got to let shit be for plot. You're comparing Goku black to this Gohan black and thinking they have to be the same power. For this story Gohan Black is just that much more powerful.
@castform7
@castform7 Күн бұрын
Sage actually brought up a very interesting point about Gohan Black in Mark's rewrite. While I think Mark did a good enough job to set up why Gohan would take the fall instead of Goku with the showcase of SSJ2 there's still the Godtube fight that might conflict feelings. Why not choose the choose the consistently growing Goku over the inconsistent Gohan. I will say though that overall, I do like the changes here especially with how Mark tries to make time travel in Dragon Ball actually make sense.
@sebastianramones2722
@sebastianramones2722 2 күн бұрын
Bro The Drink’s the rage now
@quickhallsshow576
@quickhallsshow576 2 күн бұрын
Yoo I was waiting for this
@jasperzombwolf5422
@jasperzombwolf5422 2 күн бұрын
Gohan sadly chose not to fight in the tournament universe 6 vs 7. But to also add in is that zamusu didn't know of trunks till this point, it was only till he made it to the future that they met, just to remind anyone, even adding manga readers or anime watchers.
@devaughnfranklin6683
@devaughnfranklin6683 2 күн бұрын
Appreciate the uploads hopefully I catch the next streams
@IDKmyname351
@IDKmyname351 2 күн бұрын
I like the changes made but what about Videl
@geomejia8946
@geomejia8946 2 күн бұрын
8:00 no…that’s NOT Trunks’ Gohan…THIS Gohan probably forgot about Trunks and so for him it was just a oh nice to see you again…for Trunks he’s happy that THIS Gohan is happy….why would Trunks glaze this Gohan….they weren’t even that close in the cell saga something I personally think that’s where they fucked up…if they had became best friends in the cell saga then yea makes sense but no…it was strictly business with this Gohan😅 L Take, with Vegeta that’s his POPS no matter he timeline🤷🏿‍♂️
@draco8970
@draco8970 2 күн бұрын
what did trunks just say😂😂😂
@Nameless0ne419
@Nameless0ne419 Күн бұрын
😂😂😂 that “phew” felt personal @24:00
@FK74396
@FK74396 2 күн бұрын
Maybe instead of just Goku Black or Gohan Black we get a tag team with the Zamasus and get the best out of both. And now we can see a Goku + Gohan fusion and as a fun complement to that, a Vegeta + Trunks fusion to counter it.
@UniCops
@UniCops Күн бұрын
Gokhan confirmed??!?
@randomrave6635
@randomrave6635 Күн бұрын
When this arc was still in the works, vegito wasnt even planned to be there, he was just thrown in for the sake of selling toys..
@ericjohnson9136
@ericjohnson9136 Күн бұрын
54:22 ngl, people didn’t actually watch what they said they watched. They watched clips on KZbin. These guys were eating a full course meal and looked away from the screen every other second 😂
@abdirahmanhassan2625
@abdirahmanhassan2625 Күн бұрын
Sage such a good at acting 😊
@5001Fergies
@5001Fergies 2 күн бұрын
did someone say my favorite dragonball creator is reacting to my second favorite dragonball creator?? lets fucking goooo
@Excalibur_umbra-WF
@Excalibur_umbra-WF Күн бұрын
“🥷🏿’s call me the twink” -zamasu
@jacobfaser6636
@jacobfaser6636 Күн бұрын
Yeah Trunks becoming a Kai is cool and all but the time ring only goes to the future… not the past
@UniCops
@UniCops Күн бұрын
I forgot the exact rules, and I think Mark just changed the rules anyway. What were the actual rules of the time ring, again? Cuz I vividly remember Goku Black breaking the rule, hence why the time rift forcibly sucks him back in
@dandyzoran4891
@dandyzoran4891 2 күн бұрын
I like this ending waaaaayyyy better.
@yureisrandomadventures
@yureisrandomadventures Күн бұрын
I don't blame you for the fact that Zamasu should pick the strongest one and I feel the same way but at the same time picking Gohan for potential is not bad either like if you picked a pokemon whether it's a high level or a low level you can evolve it to be stronger.
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb 2 күн бұрын
The Goku Black saga is fine as is
@thewolfbeast816
@thewolfbeast816 2 күн бұрын
In the manga atleast
@jessemastro
@jessemastro Күн бұрын
Sealing Zamasu away instead of killing him is a bit anti climactic, yes, but it’s quite literally the only way to go unless you take away Zamasu’s immortality. Plus, for Zamasu fans, keeping him sealed just means there’s potential for his return in a future arc. The only 2 questions left are, where do you keep the seal? And does Trunks stay in the present timeline or does he return to his timeline?
@Valcorr_122
@Valcorr_122 Күн бұрын
Imagine Gohan black pulling out beast rosé, that would be hilarious
@JermaineBailey-g1q
@JermaineBailey-g1q 2 күн бұрын
HOLD YOUR FIRE, THAT MAN ISNT BLACK
@devfromthebay2587
@devfromthebay2587 2 күн бұрын
“Hot take…” 10 seconds later “Cold take? Who said it was hot???” Y’ALL SEE HOW HE BE GASLIGHTING US??? 😂😂😂
@TestTing-n6d
@TestTing-n6d 17 сағат бұрын
Not gonna lie, your reactions to Mark’s re-writes is the first time I’ve ever thought you caught nothing but L’s. Makes me kinda glad you gave up on the idea and never did your own lmao
@KonEl17
@KonEl17 Күн бұрын
55:50 didn't they blow up the whole area cuz they couldn't tell where he was. Pretty much leveling the entire area, they sampling assumed they got and left. Cuz that's the scene he lost his arm.
@rachelparker335
@rachelparker335 2 күн бұрын
four and a half minutes in and I wanna throw out an idea. Future Trunks arc should've had a bad ending where the villian wins. Maybe they escape that universe/timeline using the Super Buu/Gotenks yell that got them out the RoSaT and then we get a multiverse arc. Am I the only one that's also dissapointed by Super's multiverse? Where my Dragon Ball Crisis on Infinite Earths? Why do the ToP and not have an adventure through the universes they did have?? I like Super, genuinely, but I don't know if there's a single part of it that doesn't underwhelm me conceptually outside BoG. Don't gimme Xenoverse and then a new anime with a multiverse concept and then not explore the damned multiverse! I wanted to see Dragon Ball shout out and include the what if culture. But I can't lie. I want Xenoverse to be cannon. I actually think it's an easier show to digest if you act like it is.
@AliAlkhodor
@AliAlkhodor 2 күн бұрын
It's funny that trunks literally go back in time to get goku and vegeta to safe he's timeline and come back all destroyed.
@NexalZita
@NexalZita 2 күн бұрын
Sage we really want you to react to DragonBall New Hope.
@soughtaftermusic
@soughtaftermusic Күн бұрын
Sage what you dont understand is gohan is a mutant and his X gen actitved at that moment and he turned invisible to escape black
@KonEl17
@KonEl17 Күн бұрын
Gohan Black should have always been the villian point blank. And you must also remember how Mark is telling this story not how the anime told it.
@wrecclessescobar6252
@wrecclessescobar6252 2 күн бұрын
Gohan black makes more sense tbh
@nickalas666
@nickalas666 Күн бұрын
in what way?
@SamuelRondreigz4720
@SamuelRondreigz4720 2 күн бұрын
Aww man I wanted to see Truhan Rage
@sideman236
@sideman236 Күн бұрын
12:59 and just like that Zamasu would of been the stupidest villan in DB 1. Doesn't even know Gohan 2. Why would Zamasu use a weaker vessel This just prove to me people probably would of made the series worse 😂 Edit : 14:04 thank you sage 😂
@commander8237
@commander8237 Күн бұрын
Its really not hard to think about the scenario before commenting. Marks departing from the funky time travel for the original (he has a whole sequence dedicated to this) and the solution is stealing a body from one of the other timelines to keep the others off his scent. In each of these timelines goku is dead from the heart virus so at best goku has some afterlife training in
@KonEl17
@KonEl17 Күн бұрын
Trunks in the manga was a Kai in training
@dragonballgamer1316
@dragonballgamer1316 2 күн бұрын
The drink drip
@geomejia8946
@geomejia8946 2 күн бұрын
hold on so where did Trunks go to at the end of the Arc?😅😅 wasn’t his timeline COMPLETELY erased? he just gonna pull up to a random timeline? even if it’s a timeline he’s not in…the shit it would fuck up😂 the way he gonna have to be like YO i’m from a different timeline but i’m staying here now😅 like what
@zenkai182
@zenkai182 Күн бұрын
he and Mai went back in time to before goku black showed up, meaning that there’s two of them in the same timeline. they be doin anything to keep future trunks outta the main timeline😭
@ratdaddyhd3375
@ratdaddyhd3375 Күн бұрын
I would have just redcon time traveling as mortals or less advanced universes idea of what time travel is in reality it’s you going a alternate universe
@harikiran4339
@harikiran4339 Күн бұрын
Buuuttt... The one thing toriyama always wanted was trunks time gets nuked and then zeno will be used as catalyst for the TOP.
@turbobrent9435
@turbobrent9435 Күн бұрын
Bro's hate boner for Gohan was crazy.
@michaeljames47
@michaeljames47 2 күн бұрын
That was sooo ass and people be still defending it like it's some god tier ending
@doommachine8909
@doommachine8909 2 күн бұрын
Not too much on the drink now
@rickysrhapsodies1282
@rickysrhapsodies1282 Күн бұрын
solo leveling reaction videos needed!!!!
@tomcollierblognation136
@tomcollierblognation136 2 күн бұрын
I didn't like the gohan treatment in this arc. One thing we as fans were robbed of is present gohan working with future trunks.
@dannystrong2074
@dannystrong2074 2 күн бұрын
Real, I'm the strongest totally first
@TheWatchPartyForever
@TheWatchPartyForever Күн бұрын
In marks rewriting zamasu pretty much exist to solely make trunks life a living H, nothing less and everything more.
@Droopy4703
@Droopy4703 2 күн бұрын
Any buckers here
@Yuji_Goatadori
@Yuji_Goatadori Күн бұрын
They had to nerf the manga😭
@ChrisBoyle-uy1tu
@ChrisBoyle-uy1tu 2 күн бұрын
Drip over 9k . Lmao
@mcscissorface7756
@mcscissorface7756 Күн бұрын
Gohan wasnt fighting a Goku Black. he was fighting a Gohan Black who understands his potential better than Gohan. Also the androids didn't, they blow off Gohan's arm. Did you even watch the Special?
@dragonballandnarutofan
@dragonballandnarutofan Күн бұрын
Zephfire has a namek saga review. Watch it
@youngbricksyg266
@youngbricksyg266 Күн бұрын
The best way to fix the goku black arc is to just get rid of it entirely, cause it sucks
@Darkness44452
@Darkness44452 2 күн бұрын
Super saiyan 2nd
@Supreme-AMVs
@Supreme-AMVs 2 күн бұрын
two videos in one day?
@sleepykuna2
@sleepykuna2 2 күн бұрын
Day 9 of asking sage to react to frieren
@Harokura
@Harokura 10 сағат бұрын
Gohan is the strongest... in the Raditz arc, the andriod arc and the end of the buu arc (minus fusions), why wouldnt he pick Gohan. Goku is the best fighter, but how does Zamasu utilise his fighting skill/brain if he steals his body? He cant really, just his strength, so why not choose the highest power level/highest power ceiling. Its a no brainer to me
@carsontorres3398
@carsontorres3398 2 күн бұрын
Day 2 of asking to react to DB new hope
@zakaforse2931
@zakaforse2931 18 сағат бұрын
Yeah I can agree with you all but... you left my guy Trunks without a his own transformation and his own moment so I don't care what you all continue to say... Wtrunks Sword of hope and thanks to this we have one of the most badass animations for Trunks in games like DB Legends ecc...
@yellowviper357
@yellowviper357 2 күн бұрын
gohan black isn't better than goku black tbh
@d4v1do
@d4v1do 2 күн бұрын
Should’ve been Gohan Black & Goku Black instead of zamsu’s
@bigt100
@bigt100 Күн бұрын
I wish it was both gohan and goku black tbh
@Shinigami_of_cleaning
@Shinigami_of_cleaning 2 күн бұрын
Nobody talking bout it but bro fell off so fast😭
@AnimationsStudioza
@AnimationsStudioza 2 күн бұрын
Real
@Comictale9001
@Comictale9001 2 күн бұрын
Beat me to it
@spinballproduction9678
@spinballproduction9678 2 күн бұрын
Me and that majin guy in chat feel the same way. I genuinely feel like there’s practically no saving this arc just scrap it and turn it into something else. Respect to mark for trying though.
@Umbra_Okkotsu
@Umbra_Okkotsu 2 күн бұрын
W for trunks fans😂😂
@SupportGamin2025
@SupportGamin2025 2 күн бұрын
Facts 😂
@realog9120
@realog9120 Күн бұрын
Nah man this story was swinging for the fences and just reaching. People quickly forget without goku and piccolo, gohan will never be like the main timeline gohan and will never reach his full potential. So him taking a gohan body from a future where gohan is significantly weaker . If you take gohans body if it’s not the main timeline or the movies timeline which both Goku lives then zamasu is going to be a whole lot in trouble because he will be so behind that the gap in power he won’t be able to even match main timeline gohan and vegeta and goku could kill gohan black very very quickly than they did in the original story. Example look at gohan training with goku for a year vs piccolo training gohan for a year . The power difference he gains when goku is his teacher is absolutely stupid.
@SupportGamin2025
@SupportGamin2025 2 күн бұрын
Goku black saga wasn't that bad 😂
@jaycjas3143
@jaycjas3143 2 күн бұрын
Just say you don't like gohan 😒 why wouldn't he take his body? He plans on pushing his new body to its fullest potential of which gohan IS potential man. I swear yt creators be on that dope
@zrxcwrtd5981
@zrxcwrtd5981 2 күн бұрын
but why do that when the gap between goku and gohan is insanely large and you can still push goku further.
@jaycjas3143
@jaycjas3143 2 күн бұрын
@zrxcwrtd5981 Goku doesn't have as much potential. He just keeps breaking his limits as a mortal and gets stronger anyway. Zamasu is already a god so if he's looking for a perfect body it's insanely logical that he would get the mortal with the highest potential and push that body with his divinity. It's not about how strong each are. In fact the only reason he took Goku's body was because he fought Beerus and he put zamasu on his ass. If it was Vegeta or Gohan zamasu would've done the same thing. It's a narrative argument. The plot demands Goku so it was Goku. From the logical perspective if we replace Goku with anyone else and they're back by Beerus zamasu would do the same thing. It was credit from a god and being pushed by a "lower" being that made him go that route. If the mortal bested him he'll just take the mortals body and push it further. If y'all don't like Gohan just say that 🗣️🗣️🗣️
@zrxcwrtd5981
@zrxcwrtd5981 2 күн бұрын
@@jaycjas3143 You want zamasu someone who doesn't even know how to optimize training at all to push gohan past ssbkk goku. Something which gohan himself was incapable of until super hero. You're pretty much saying you believe Zamasu's divinity alone gives him the ability to push gohan way past goku well knowing vegeta washed goku black after training for less than a week?? Do you really think it's logical for Zamasu to pick pure potential he is incapable of using over raw power and stacking on top of it?
@commander8237
@commander8237 Күн бұрын
​​​@@zrxcwrtd5981 with marks rewrite he could only steal a body from an alternate timeline. In all of the alternate timelines created by trunks and cell, gokus dead and any leaps in strength he made from training in the afterlife should not be significant enough to forgo gohans potential. The way zamasu takes gokus body from the present timeline in the show is funky and that's why he dedicates an entire section to fixing it in the video In any case, zamasu seems to take the body of goku from the start of super in the original story as he's shown doing farm work with goten. At this point goku has not received the god form or training from whis so he's not that strong to begin with
@jaycjas3143
@jaycjas3143 Күн бұрын
@zrxcwrtd5981 and your saying ONE transformation is enough plus he did push past ssbkk with rosé. This is the problem with the community can't accept or debate narrative arguments. Signs of low intelligence
@KonEl17
@KonEl17 Күн бұрын
Goku a more impressive fighter but Gohan has the ability to surpass Gokusue yo his "Potential"
@Zion_-MAR-
@Zion_-MAR- 12 сағат бұрын
Gohan Black's story is better than Goku Black's 🤷🏼‍♂️
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb 2 күн бұрын
The baby saga is still better than the Goku black saga
@chqxn
@chqxn 2 күн бұрын
it is good
@killermankay6668
@killermankay6668 Күн бұрын
Nah u hating lol u hate or troll hate everything 😂
@jg5004
@jg5004 2 күн бұрын
Gohan black? Ugh
@ExsKouki
@ExsKouki 2 күн бұрын
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