Ok I tried Tree-sitter! Here is what I think about it...

[@remrevo3944]

There is also the query API for treesitter, which makes it much easier to deal with treesitter as it provides easy pattern matching. You might want to consider using that to find the declarations.

[@HitMan99299]

Treesitter is following the naming and node structure based on the grammar rules defined in the C standard (which is pretty archaic). Node type of 'declaration' in that case would also include all variable declarations (globals in a header) but that wont matter if you're parsing a header file alone, except maybe in the case of something like an stb header that has definitions and local variables also as part of the the header file

[@____r72]

I do web dev stuff and just started learning the c family, it’s just so satisfying watching someone acquire gorilla grip on a forrest filled with unknowns and burning qs. So neat knowing what happens when I use the little :TS* commands from neovim , and all the lights magically turn on

[@____r72]

the brain is fascinating fr

[@xhivo97]

those are language bindings thats why c not listed

[@Tawre007]

It's written in C, so under heading "Language bindings" you will not find it, right? AKA C Programmers trolling C Programmers 😁

[@labsendeyshent]

> не трясите мой триситтер ~ Zozin, 2023

[@monsieuralexandergulbu3678]

1:01:29 ladies and gentlemen, I am sorry to announce, but tsoding died of ligma

[@bebre_2288]

Omg, that is hilarious

[@ForAeonz]

who is steve jobs

[@andrewa471]

i feel really dumb, what was so funny there?

[@meiramshunshalin6915]

​@@andrewa471don't worry, you are not stupid, you just don't know russian

[@VíctorManuelDíazNeto]

ligma?

[@mehdiboujid8761]

I would like to see an emacs showcase it s really nice seeing you navigate and edit that fast

[@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384]

learn yourself

[@ecosta]

What I love about Tsoding streams is how I don't feel alone and crazy when I realise how programming in 2023 is weird AF. Yes, life could be much simpler without those over-hyped languages/libraries with hundreds of layers of leaky abstractions and vendor locking. I loved how JAI "just worked" with GDB at 47:47 and I wish Java could do the same (since that's the language that is paying my bills).

[@sharathkumark9692]

Why? I heard java has debugger

[@ecosta]

@@sharathkumark9692 Only IDEs can debug decently on Java. JDB and JPDA are just gimmicks. Since I don't use IDEs, then I can only rely on good old "print debugging".

[@sharathkumark9692]

@@ecosta Really? I thought it would be like gdb. Is python debugger like that or actually usable

[@ecosta]

​@@sharathkumark9692 To be honest, I never debugged Python. I imagine it might be decent because Python is more console-friendly than Java.

[@guguludugulu]

​@@sharathkumark9692I debug Python with debugpy and nvim-dap(-ui) and it's awesome. ipdb is cool, too

[@monsieuralexandergulbu3678]

55:07 the obly language tsoding doesn't hate is non-existing one 😂

[@jamesnewman9547]

Really loved seeing both you and prime both diving into tree-sitter! I've used it for a bit of custom linting, and also loved how easy it was to use and even modify/write the grammar. I used rust bindings btw ;)

[@allsunday1485]

When did prime did it?

[@cathalogrady2331]

i think they didn't list C as the C is not 'binding' as that is what the library is written in

[@templatepack]

i unironically wrote my graduation thesis with tree sitter and stack graph, now i have Vietnam-style memories

[@thecodealchemist7095]

"People don't appreciate simplicity" - that sooo reall across many aspect of life 🤣

[@shubhampawar7921]

Cannot wait for Jai to be public.

[@named4957]

Are there any infos on when this will happen?

[@wondays654]

Is it better than rust 🤔

[@binitrupakheti4246]

Wait for 5 years

[@Xotchkass]

@@wondays654 Anything is better than rust

[@jesusmgw]

Probably just after the game it is being used for is released.

[@26xBenny]

This is an incredible resource, wonderful, thank you so much, !

[@drdca8263]

I think “fine” is also a reasonable term in addition to “granular”, I guess “fine-grained” combines both?

[@chromosundrift]

about flashbang sites, the "dark reader" extension is pretty effective at detecting and correcting sites stuck in sunglasses-mode

[@squ34ky]

19:38 did I hear that correctly...?

[@flleaf]

i've just fixed bug i was trying to fix for a while with this video in background :)

[@TsodingDaily]

You are welcome!

[@flleaf]

you shouldn't be ashamed of simplicity! you shouldn't be ashamed of not having hash maps in the language you use!

[@xhivo97]

Both are true.

[@Heater-v1.0.0]

I don't get the "Rust and it's consequences thing". Having used C and C++ on and off since 1983, among a pile of other languages, most of the Rust I write is in the style of C. Maybe the Rust folks would look down on me for not creating "idiomatic Rust" but I don't care, it does what I want and it catches a lot of my stupid mistakes, all is well.

[@dealloc]

Write Rust however you want. That's why it's powerful. You don't need to use impl at all (except if you want to utilize traits). Of course if you build a public API, it's better to be more idiomatic, but for your own things it doesn't matter. Additionally the non-C part would also be having global variables. Alternatively you just pass some struct(s) around by mut ref where needed. If you need thread safety, you can always wrap them in Arc or Mutex.

[@Heater-v1.0.0]

@@dealloc My take on it is that in C, C++ and other such languages it is easy to accidentally write code that will misbehave in unexpected ways. So it's wise to write code in the way that has evolved over time among other users of the language. That is to say be "idiomatic" in your use of the language. That way people immediately recognise what you are doing at is I likely to be OK. Anything "weird" looking will raise suspicions. But Rust won't let you make the vast parity of those mistakes, unless you go out of your way with "unsafe". Therefore I feel there is no need to be "idiomatic" in Rust. The compiler will not let you be "weird". Anything you write that actually compiles is "idiomatic" Rust as far as I'm concerned. Including my C style Rust. I was never much into global variables in C. So I'm not missing the ease of doing that when writing Rust.

[@monsieuralexandergulbu3678]

Industrial revolution and it's consequences: rust

[@flop-oe5mr]

What is the best video of yours to watch that covers how to approach c from someone more familiar with shell scripting?

[@HrHaakon]

Funnily enough, bilingual debugging is pretty common in Javaland, since there's Java, Kotlin, and Groovy often in the same codebase. It works pretty well, and I don't have to read gosh-darned bytecode. (pardon the strong language)

[@0netom]

if u just look at the C language grammar.js u should be able to see what are all the possible combinations u might want to handle. and then IF u update the grammar.js version, then u can just see if any of those definition you relied on has changed or not.

[@djin81]

It _is_ C, why would it need bindings to C?

[@priyakdey7891]

@Tsoding wanted to understand the difference of binding and porting? Are they same or are they different? From the English name, what I would understand is, binding a c lib from jai, end of the day the c code gets executed. When we say port, we literally implement the c code in jai. Is that right ? Thank you .

[@okabe999]

I like this man's hair

[@flleaf]

i also like that it's probably because he doesn't want to pay for hair cut lol

[@dralger]

I'm working with Emacs 31, with treesitter, eglot.... it's very fine.

[@stokedfool]

[33:36] - realization that tree-sitter is a _pretty decent_ parser generator.

[@meneereenhoorn]

Great session, thanks! :D

[@cariyaputta]

The screen is so bright I got flashbanged.

[@flleaf]

finished watching the vid. loved it when he sit all over the trees. truely a moment

[@MyShakeweight]

Poggy coding man’s uploaded

[@liamkearn]

Poggy coding man is crazy 😂 legend.

[@JohnKouts]

Man I love your channel

[@drdca8263]

Laughed pretty loudly at the fortnight joke

[@TECHN01200]

Honestly, I have a bone to pick with Treesitter's C parser. I might just try to re-implement it in C from the get go and fix the stupid bug that makes it impossible to work on large macros.

[@mjkpolo7313]

I know nothing of the implementation, but macros never highlight in my source files in neovim and I believe it uses treesitter... really frustrating

[@seventhtenth]

BASED😂 i am not a bot I just find half-thoughts to have comedic value

[@berndeckenfels]

Tree sitter is hyped because neovim and maybe the LSP craze. (Btw look at TS plus Telescope as a generic coocle)

[@Rssks]

@2:55 this joke was like 100/100 truth :D

[@johnhammer8668]

39:20 How did you duplicate the line in emacs?

[@TsodingDaily]

github.com/rexim/dotfiles/blob/25f8ddc6717e56f110e812fd0cec2f1a1dc9d8be/.emacs.rc/misc-rc.el#L120-L132

[@mariusrasener9186]

Haha I came for the tech I stay for the giggles

[@pynimp]

we nyeed it 😂, i love your accent bro 🙌🇷🇺

[@seventhtenth]

this is the tree-sitter video of all time

[@batlin]

Did not know about make -B. Nice.

[@jordixboy]

are you using emacs or vim?

[@myfavouritecolorisgreen]

emacs

[@rmntim]

new mic pog?

[@miko007]

so, in the comments of the last video, someone was arguing with me against using regex because of the preprocessor. since you are now using an external preprocessor anyways, you could easily parse your function declarations with a regular expression, couldnt you?

[@contempt2012]

How come noone mentioned package.json being there with `build` script? 🤭 I suppose Tsoding hates javascript that much to never had anything to do with it but seeing package.json almost always means there's a build or run script in there, just like you can assume Makefile expects you to run `make`.

[@Klayperson]

7.1 GiB is rookie numbers, i got you by almost an order of magnitude my guy

[@Klayperson]

actually i found a second folder that is almost just as large, so i've got you by over 16x

[@antonsimkin]

Удается ли тебе пользоваться Чат ГПТ из России?

[@TsodingDaily]

Я его пару раз поюзал через прокси. Прикольно было поначалу. А потом он мне надоел, лол.

[@michaelmueller9635]

1:51:15 xD

[@leandrotraldiperussi9108]

beatbox god

[@justcat3]

parser c raylib pp kek

[@eliseulucenabarros3920]

YEAH, THEY DO NOT DOCUMENT, THEY HAVE SHAME

[@roger58469]

missed opportunity to call it tree-shitter

[@turun_ambartanen]

Obviously no one will writing bindings from C for C. Because you don't need bindings for that, you have access to everything already. It's like looking at a list of places you visit from denmark in a day and complaining that it doesn't list denmark. Yes, you can get to denkmark within a day if you are already in denmark, lol

[@replikvltyoutube3727]

What is Jai beta, and why isn't it exposed to public?

[@drdca8263]

Jon (John? I don’t remember how he spells it. The guy behind “The Witness”) iirc doesn’t want to lose full control of the development until it is done, and feels that making it publicly available before it is done will quickly invite forks and such, which, if there are still major changes he wants to make, may cause substantial incompatibility and community fragmentation , and so he is waiting until it is done to fully release it.

[@replikvltyoutube3727]

@@drdca8263 thx

[@LeonKarpinski-s6h]

@@drdca8263 He doesn't release it because he's still traumatized by The Looker

[@yeahmirva]

1:01:33 wtf

[@stintaa]

first lol anw LEYSSSS GOOO

[@wiiznokes2237]

I'm not agree with what you said in Rust. You could code simple things with just fn. And the build system is super simple so it must be why it was so simple to rebuild it why debug symbol.

[@Lklibertad]

video ql largo xD

[@GeorgeTsiros]

if the ast used in the editor is _not_ the one generated by the actual build tools used, this whole treeshitter thing is a novelty at best, dangerous at worst.

[@SlinkyD]

comment5

[@LowQualityGodotTutorials]

пасаси

[@deadmarshal]

Rust is a joke

[@sinamobasheri]

Your mom was serious

[@vaisakh_km]

But it rust is used in all platform kernals.... windows, mac, linux, android(which is also linux) and i guess ios also... which is on par with popularity of C.... :) so you have a weird definition of joke...

[@sinamobasheri]

@@vaisakh_km PLEASE give reference that rust is heavily used in these oses you mention..

[@thecodealchemist7095]

Can you share your discord server?

[@starshipx1282]

how do i join your discord

[@remrevo3944]

There is a discord invite link in the about section of his twitch channel. (I would link it here, but youtube comments and links don't really work well together.)

[@starshipx1282]

@@remrevo3944Thanks. Found it.

[@antonpodkur3520]

Пасаси

[@arthurmiller9518]

Pr0n folder: 7.1 Gig 🙂😁.

[@zamnnnnnn]

parser.c...