TUBELESS CROSS SPOKED vs TUBE REGULAR SPOKES MY THOUGHTS

[@gocools8723]

Thanks ben i was worried whether to go-ahead and with the cross spokes for looks or the existing one with my trusted seelin helped me in many instances in my bullet and with Himalayan too saved many times this saved me 12500 😅 love this inputs it really helped me

[@AkashPaul-ql1fu]

1. Steel rims are heavier but more durable than aluminium. These aluminium rims are not super high quality to take on hardcore offroading. Himalayan is not a hardcore offroader. Not many options though in Indian market but Himalayan is a adv. 2. Why the banter on the capability of the tyre ? Are there any parameters to judge whether a tyre can take different type of flats , deflated rolling etc ? If the tyre load index is good then it's ok. Also first time I've heard that tube type loses air slowly. I knew tubeless loses air slowly and tube type loses air instantly. 3. Yes if the tubeless rims are bent then you lose air unlike tube type because there is a tube in it. 4. People commenting about Dakar doesn't know that it's a circuit. Imagine you are off-roading somewhere and you have a puncture? Would you pick tube or tubeless rims ? Ofcourse tubeless rims makes sense especially in India where too many nails and whatnots are present in roads.

[@sam1920]

i will still prefer tubeless cross spoke over tube tyre. just 12.5k for pair of cross spoke wheel, for touring and not much off roading

[@athulnath2260]

You are right! If cross spokes are reliable in off road business, then dakar guys would definitely adapt it. But it isn't till this day

[@anupamtheboss4536]

I Hate This Tube Type Business at all. Apart form this Puncture problem 90% of the people don't know that Tube Type are not very Recommended for High Speed Cruising, you have to Use a very High quality Tube, other wise going above 120 is a Huge risk, because if the tyre pressure is Low Heat will generate & the tube will Explode causing a catastrophic Accident. There are a Lot of videos on KZbin of tube Bursting at Higher speeds.

[@pratimmhatre6602]

I can also confirm that 28-32psi works really well i kept it for several months and did offroad as well it works good

[@cca749]

True words! Tube setup is better…..for all terrain…completed 16000kms…only 1 puncture…maintain tyre pressure as per recommendation…no need to worry!!

[@ashwinykm]

What tyre pressure for 411

[@abhay1551]

​@@ashwinykm by company: Front 25 single, 27 double Rear 32 single, 34 double I use 26 33 balance of both. If you want to hit rocks 24 31

[@Drnikkdon]

Straight spoke rims with a tubeless conversion done, will do the job i guess.

[@Bumblebee_Jayesh]

I did the same,converted the current rims with tubeless conversion and running pretty fine

[@Drnikkdon]

@@Bumblebee_Jayesh do you maintain same tyre pressure as before?

[@Bumblebee_Jayesh]

@@Drnikkdon yes

[@shameemkn4458]

How did you convert it??

[@sumbawaroyalenfieldbiking8784]

The tubed rims are actually different from the tubeless rims,the latter has a specific lip to stop the tire comming off if you have rapid deflation, I know loads convert the OEM rims sucessful, but bear this in mind

[@aniapte]

@ben i really liked your description of the extra shock absorbing capacity of tubed tyres compared to tubeless, outer tyre + inner tube + shock :: compared to just tyre+shock. Plain physics !

[@ONTWOWHEELSBEN]

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[@namanrajdev4343]

Have you noticed a constant sound coming from the left side likely due to fuel injector if so do you know any why to reduce it (putting it on full tank dose not work)

[@ONTWOWHEELSBEN]

@@namanrajdev4343 just ignore it .

[@Drnikkdon]

Also do we need to maintain same tyre pressure or different in tubeless converted straight spoke rims?

[@AjayThapaThemotocrafterz]

Tube tyres are offroad oriented and adventure friendly

[@nikunjrathwa2360]

What do you use to remove the black glue left on side panels after taking off decals? I've tried everything, but it won't come off.

[@Onwheels365]

Can we still have tube inside tubeless rims setup?

[@0neTwo3]

Yes, you can install a tube in the tubeless system if need be. The real problem with the cross spokes is that the rim is wider and kind of over-hangs the edge of the tires. A sidewall rock strike will directly impact the cross spoke attachment area. An impact to the spoked rim edge will result in a worse bend than if you had the narrower tubed rims in the same situation.

[@richardkolk7850]

Hey Ben, you seem to have a fair bit of sand over there, how is the traction in sand with the stock tires?

[@Prem-vs9ne]

Ben what's the pressure for off road for 411

[@souvikdas2774]

I am so confused now 😵‍💫 What I knew was that you can ride on tubeless for a while before it gives up but tubed ones deflate and make in really difficult to ride as soon as puncture happens… And if you have a puncture in the middle of nowhere with a tubed tire you have to change it right you can’t ride with it, would you..?

[@mohanbasavareddy7967]

Anna It is possible to put newly launched tubeless rims on himalayan 411

[@Bumblebee_Jayesh]

No not compatible

[@regorohan]

not very accurate explanation. Tube tyre can lose air instantly on getting punctured. just matters on the size of the puncture. small nail-slow puncture. Thick metal object- instant puncture. Tubless tyres never works for solid hammering off-road. but more reliable for high speed on-road. For tube tyres, best option is to use tyre-catchers. in case of an instant puncture, bike will remain more stable as tyre will not come out of the rim at high speeds . On rally bikes we used tyre catchers with twin tubes. in case of puncture, we can remove the nail and inflate the 2nd tube and ride on.

[@krishnamahatre8605]

Saarrr, taking your word after a certain past incident is not easy 🤣🤣🤣, the East coast looks parched.

[@OnceARider]

Totally agree with you on this. I have been wondering if the tubeless tyre over the spoked rim was a good idea, it made the repair job difficult, it is very difficult to get that tyre to break the bead. It would have been far better if the tyres were normal tyres with a tube.

[@souvikdas2774]

I am so confused now 😵‍💫 What I knew was that you can ride on tubeless for a while before it gives up but tubed ones deflate and make in really difficult to ride as soon as puncture happens… And if you have a puncture in the middle of nowhere with a tubed tire you have to change it right you can’t ride with it, would you..?

[@shonith91]

I would suggest wait for sometime and see what feedback people with tubeless wheels give. Then you can decide.