Tucker Carlson's Unhinged Interview with "Putin's Brain" Seized Upon by Russian Propagandists

Ben Rhodes and Tommy Vietor discuss reports that a temporary ceasefire and hostage release deal between Israel and Hamas may be imminent, that Saudi Arabia has decided to normalize relations with Israel, and that the ICC may issue an arrest warrant for Israeli PM Bibi Netanyahu. They also hear from campus protestors in New York, discuss leaked intelligence reports about whether Putin ordered opposition leader Alexei Navalny’s death, Tucker Carlson’s interview with a far-right ultranationalist close with Putin, Secretary of State Tony Blinken’s trip to China, why an Iranian rapper got a death sentence, major leadership changes in Scotland, and a dramatic reading care of Scotland. Then Tommy speaks to John McDermott, Chief Africa Correspondent for the Economist about South Africa’s upcoming election, waning western influence in the western Sahel, and the 30 anniversary of the Rwandan genocide.
CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
5:37 - Gaza/Israel updates
19:43 - Gaza campus protests
29:40 - Russia, Tucker & 'Putin's Brain'
33:37 - Blinken's visit to China
44:40 - India's attempted assassinations
48:13 - Protests for Iranian rapper
51:21 - Scotland's 1st Minister resigns
55:37 - New Zealand journalist
1:00:13 - John McDermott
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[@skaterdudeabides]

Life Pro Tip: when they tell you not to listen to someone, there's a very good chance he's saying something worth hearing.

[@catherinebirch8263]

Here's what genuine cause for hope sounds like. "The Us announced today that it has stopped sending arming and funding Israel effective immediately. Resumption of aid will recommence 3 months after the latest day the Palestinian death toll exceeds the 10 year average by more than 10%."

[@user-sz8lp2tj5x]

I do not believe Putin has ever met Dugin.

[@user-fc6bh9ms2p]

Before the war he barely heard about him.

[@tankiebot704]

Thats stupid

[@B1sher]

you're right, there is not one avidence they ever even met and Putin personally said so

[@tingleblade4274]

This is a Western propaganda about "Putin's Brain". Complete nonsense. He is bright, but one of many philosophers and intellectuals in Russia. Not to say that it outshines everyone, but it's not the last one either. I personally am not a fan of him, but he had very cool lectures on philosophy and sociology in the 00s.

[@SHAYZAC]

The image of Tommy strolling into the situation room after Bin Laden in a jersey 😣 lol

[@briennameffertfogle7937]

I’d encourage yall to get into contact with student reporters at Columbia. The parallels between this and the protests of history on campus are unreal. Please, reach a little further than what’s at your fingertips to hear what STUDENTS are saying.

[@kennethroe4321]

Removing free speech is never the appropriate way of handling a situation. There needs to be more of a focus on having a civil discussion and integrating the constructive aspects of all sides. Even in the case where one side holds more validity than the other, that doesn't invalidate the other side. Canceling the side you don't like will only make a shadow of that group and intensify their resistance to you. I salute PStW's discussion of the university protests. They give it the proper complexity and nuance that it deserves.

[@kevinpulliam3661]

Why is removing free speech never appropriate?

[@kennethroe4321]

@@kevinpulliam3661 There are some interesting nuances that go into this. Of course, there does need to be some content moderation in any platform. This is done to address bullying, where one group has clear malicious intent in their interactions with everyone else. What I was talking about in my first message is that people need to get outside their own personal bubble and not be shutting out those who don't agree with them simply because they have different views. Cancel culture is inherently toxic to any real discussion. Cancel culture is not content moderation, but instead a solidifying of the views of the cancelling group, with the intent to vilify those with different viewpoints. Cancel culture is often able to act under the guise of content moderation, but it is every different indeed.

[@kevinpulliam3661]

@@kennethroe4321 so in other words, it is ok to cancel some things like bullying. Why is that ok? Also by what framework do you judge bullying? From a left liberal framework it is bullying to call someone a man even if they are a man because identity is all that matters. From a normal persons perspective that isn’t bullying that is just telling the truth. So whose point of view wins out?

[@kennethroe4321]

@@kevinpulliam3661 This is a very nuanced issue. Without bending to one side or the other, what I can say is that bullying is defined as INTENT. If someone misidentifies someone's gender or something like that, that is not bullying because it is an honest mistake. If the other person chooses to be offended over that, that is their prerogative, but I would not consider it bullying. On the other hand, if someone actively tries to assault the well-being and/or character of a person, such as hurling insults to demean them or physical assault, that is bullying.

[@abepressman2181]

Fascinating to mention the Rwanda + Sudan genocides, and South Africa's record on war crimes, without mentioning that South Africa was the main country that gave amnesty to the perpetrators of those crimes (and also denied that they happened)

[@erinpalmer7179]

Can't say enough about how valuable this show is.

[@CR-hq1uz]

Props for sending a correspondent to talk to actual protestors to hear what their concerns really are, not like the smear jobs by the MSM. Also, Blinken basically admitted Israel is doing collective punishment when he says there won't be a ceasefire for the Gazan people until Hamas agrees to a deal; he admits Israel is firing on the Gazan people for what Hamas did.

[@chrisstultz8143]

That's not what collective punishment is...This is the consequence of Hamas violating the Geneva convention embedding themselves in civilian infrastructure. Any other framing or quote mining is dishonest and does more to discredit your cause much more than anything else tbh.

[@m.a.b.4104]

Definitely agree with the first half of your comment, it is important to hear protesters in their own words describe the reasons they are protesting to combat some of the manipulative reporting that tries to paint the protesters in a single false narrative. The second point, in my opinion, maybe is undermined by the wording, "there won't be a ceasefire for the Gazan people until Hamas agrees to a deal" as evidence of collective punishment. A ceasefire in its definition requires both sides to agree to it. There has been plenty of evidence put forward that some say proves collective punishment(cutting off food and water to 2+ million people immediately after October 7th in a total siege of the Gaza strip, among many other examples) and Israel could just stop bombing and killing Gazans immediately, the majority who are obviously not combatants and are civilians, while working towards a ceasefire that would see the release of the hostages. Of course what's really going on is not revealed to the public and we may find out later, either fully or partially, or we may never find out. Hopefully ASAP we have a ceasefire deal with the release of hostages that leads into a permanent ceasefire and second we have continued talks/negotiations that lead to an end in the occupation and a two state solution. This would surely have a massive positive influence on the stability of the region.

[@prodigyzone]

How u can negotiate with a terror group that want the annihilation of Israel? It is like negotiating with isis about their own state

[@birdstwin1186]

Thats a stretch and no one would actually say that except extremists.

[@SpecialKVintage]

What a treat to hear you read the infamous interview between one of our most loved writers here in New Zealand and the saddest excuse for a politician... scrap that, we have soooo many...I mean, the dickhead we are so lucky to have as 'Spokesman for the Arts'. The really sad thing is it would be hilarious if it wasn't so darn frightening that this man has any say in NZ's future. Steve Braunius IS a great writer though. You'd love his work! 🙂🙂

[@kierankelly6319]

Accidentally discovered this podcast.... how reshreshing!!! Really enjoyed listening

[@kellys1549]

One of Dugin's books is banned on Amazon. I didn't find the Dugin interview confusing. Many of the analogies and speech patterns he uses are Russian and do not translate smoothly into the English language. I found what Dugin said was actually quite enlightening.

[@user36112]

Congress trying to control selective free speech is making folks distrust their government even more. What well thought out policy, all for special interest groups

[@denniskrust2137]

Carlson needs to register as a foreign agent.

[@user36112]

So does AIPAC

[@Miami1991]

You need to register fist commie

[@robertfeatherby3118]

And AIPAC?

[@user-fc6bh9ms2p]

I guess he must register in Nevada. Because of oral services he gives as a call-boy

[@SukieConley]

Love that you picked up on a great piece of NZ news. Kia kaha ✨

[@katemcbride8715]

We have a couple of guys who do NZ news and critique policy. Big Hairy News or BHN who I think you would enjoy. They featured this interview and had a similar disdain for the MP. After many years of NZ reporters I have been shocked by American reporters to be 'completely honest' lol.

[@williamstrange3328]

Excuse me, are you saying that you actually saw bin Laden's face after the fact?

[@saNynho]

33:57 In Blinken's speech, you can replace the words "Russia" and "China" with "Israel" and "USA" and it would still make perfect sense. The mental gymnastics needed for this foreign policy to be consisent...

[@badomen9057]

I agree, our western exceptionalism and hypocrisy is truly reaching new heights

[@masakazuishiguro8525]

In China we actually use to see Russia as a potential threat for many years because of the unhinged nature of Russia or the Soviet Union. To be honest, I thought anyone with the basic understanding of geopolitics knows that CCP’s China never had a true stable and long term ally, we have hatred and bias for basically every foreign country in Chinese society. The whole “every country is equally bad” thing is absolutely wrong and probably originated from CCP’s propaganda.

[@thebookelf2135]

​@@badomen9057yes and same old heights, I was appalled at the treatmenr of "occupy wall street " protesters while literally at the same moment, Hillary was decrying treatment of protesters anroad. Shameful and absolutely tone deaf.

[@MasterOfDarkness42069]

Not even close

[@pgpython]

The fact of the matter is this the moment you replace "Israel" and "USA" with "Russia" and "China" is the moment you would start crying because you wouldn't last a month under Russia or China. But despite this fact and that you would never move to either country you still cling to a very naive notion that a world run by China or Russia would somehow be better.

[@m.a.b.4104]

55:37 😂😂😂 a bit of overseas political humour to give your brain a break from the doom and gloom that's constantly appearing in the news. 😂 Enjoyed this, Tommy and Ben should do more!

[@PanikaMCD]

when it comes to protests being co-opted (and remember that the one of these rallies included the merging of two rallies-one which did focus on faculty and staff needs-so it does make sense that that dude was down there), a lot of us know who is likely to try and when they show up. it’s just as sure as knowing the rhythm when certain bills are likely to pass even if posting rules have to be suspended. Columbia students and faculty kept telling people that most of the adversarial comments were being made by people outside campus as Shafik had already shut down public access to parts of campus where students were protesting. we know in Austin that the earliest Red Guard Austin (the white boys that shoved over that memorial fountain on the TX Capitol Grounds despite there being three CSA monuments available) would be around mid this week. this is not hard.

[@13loodLord]

As someone who has been in a relationship with a Rwandese person for half a decade I strongly suggest that you interview a Rwandian. I've talked to lots of Rwandese people in private and they revere Paul Kagame. Paul Kagame is kind of like what Nelson Mandela is to south Africa. Listening to John McDermott on Rwanda kind of felt like listening to propaganda.

[@chrisstultz8143]

It feels like whenever this was recorded even if it was Saturday or Sunday it has aged quite badly when you look at some of the takeovers of buildings / on going encampments, violence on both sides. Seems like it's fundamentally unproductive. It seems embarrassing and the way they have conducted themselves has done more harm than good.

[@Bvi9169]

Over exaggeration

[@chrisstultz8143]

@@Bvi9169 I'd encourage you to go ahead and review the UCLA encampment and get back to me lol...

[@virginiamiller4890]

Thank you for putting light on the true meaning of free speech!!!

[@TKUA11]

Free speech doesn’t mean breaking the law and violence

[@catherinebirch8263]

@@TKUA11 That depends on whether the law is anithetical to free speech and on how it is being enforced.

[@jennkellie7341]

If you want some evidence that the US house is not the only place with issues, check out what happened in the Canadian Parliament on Tuesday (April 30). During Question Period the leader of the opposition (Poillievre) called the Prime Minister (Trudeau) a "wacko" and wouldn't rescind the comment when asked by the speaker of the house. He was officially sanctioned and forced to leave for the remainder of the day. He then had his entire caucus leave with him in protest. Some reporters asked the immigration minister to comment on Poillievre saying he was being censored and the minister said something like "silenced? the man never shuts his mouth". The whole day was astounding. A lot of the back and forth between the PM and Poillievre this week has been about how Poillievre met with members of Diagalon, a right-wing extremist group that CSIS calls a terrorist organization.

[@therosebrigade]

I’m pretty sure that Pod Save listeners don’t think that ‘the US house is the only place with issues’?? What prompted this comment?

[@checksandbalances6714]

The difference is the same Trudeau is their elected leader and we elected a corrupt lying moron to lead us in Trump and his party stole the house majority with gerrymandering so the sane people are in minority …. For now… vote 💙

[@benjaminvonstein]

Might not be this year with all the injuries, but it’s coming other-Ben. Rick’s son will lead these Knicks to a title this decade.

[@b.kenobi9063]

38:36. I think if I was Xi Jinping, I would be more worried about the idea that the US could directly intervene in my government’s internal affairs, especially when you consider the extraordinary level of corruption that just won’t go away, and everyone would blame me (Xi Jinping) for all the corruption if it became public.

[@kesart8378]

Is anyone surprised that Texas police officers overreacted in clearing students from campus encampments? Remember that last week Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR) endorsed vigilante action against protesters, even promoting a policy of throwing protesters off bridges, especially if they are impeding and inconveniencing average citizens, 'cause that's how Arkansawyers would handle whiny protesters'. (Cotton also thought that protesters who glue their hands to surfaces should be forcibly removed, which would cost them some skin--a reality that Cotton thought just grand since it would teach them a painful physical lesson.) In pre-Trump times wouldn't a sitting senator face censure for such vile, inciteful, hateful remarks, remarks that encourage potentially lethal violence, oppose the exercise of free speech on American campuses, and put an elected U.S. senator's stamp of approval upon anti-student- protester physical violence.

[@MrCancer66]

@kesart8378 No, no one, unfortunately is surprised the TX Brown shirts overreacted. And lets be honest, let's stop being politically correct, Tommy Sieg Heil Cotton is a fascist thug! In another era and another continent he'd be in charge of loading certain individuals onto box cars and no doubt revel in his job! He now wants to show that Fascist zeal to these modern US times.

[@lynleygilchrist7703]

59:14 OMG the Dramatic Reading of the Conservative NZ guy is hilarious!! Can’t believe the guy can’t even list Nalini Singh as an NZ author of note 🙄

[@AndrewMcColl]

Or Eleanor Catton, recent winner of the Man Booker Prize. Gods, even Janet Frame or Witi Ihimaera. I can understand your mind going blank at the wrong time, but you could at least switch to a book title or start describing a plot. I guess that's what you get from a party led by a guy who looks like Rimmer from Red Dwarf.

[@lynleygilchrist7703]

@@AndrewMcColl I’m an Aussie & I’m familiar enough with their talent as writers to try to claim them as “really ours” 😂😉 Conservative dude has no excuses!!

[@Elspm]

Re: the SNP being nationalist and progressive, nationalism when framed as independence from a harmful, colonial institution still run by the upper class (Westminster) it is easy to see how we can be progressive. However, that doesn't mean all pro-indy people take that mindset, or that we're all equally progressive across issues. Source: I'm a pro-indy scot who thinks Westminster is fundamentally broken, and that it cannot be fixed without structural change that will never be voted for from within Westminster.

[@rsmith6366]

Yes, Scottish Nationalism is about reforming a national identity that was stripped by English rule. Conversely, English Nationalism is Xenophobia dressed up as 'culture'. Eg: A politician saying something obscenely racist, but he's holding a pint in a historic pub standing next to Morris dancer, so it's 'ok'.

[@annyfyreagle7973]

Who owns the Wagner group now? Russia? Vlad? Someone else?

[@forsenlevel2425]

Prigozhin's son

[@seanpatrick1243]

When the war ends Netanyahu goes to jail. And, that is for his crimes before the war. Why on earth would Hamas believe the cease fire would be anything other than temporary?

[@catherinebirch8263]

Yes, Hamas will not believe a cease fire would be anything other than temporary. They are crazy, not stupid. No, that's not due to faith in the integrity of the I*i justice system!

[@catherinebirch8263]

Hamas is crazy, not stupid. Of course they wouldn't believe this cease fire would be anything other than temporary. However there's zero reason to think that is because they have faith in Israel's justice system.

[@seanpatrick1243]

@@catherinebirch8263 I'm sorry, but I'm not following what you are trying to say. And, what does the Israeli justice system have to do with any of this?

[@catherinebirch8263]

@@seanpatrick1243 Being the system that would put Netanyahu in jail - except I doubt it will and I doubt that Hamas would expect it to.

[@seanpatrick1243]

@@catherinebirch8263 Netanyahu was about to go on trial before he made the deal to lead a far right war mongering coalition to avoid prosecution.

[@billberndtson]

Oh... thank you thank you thank you for not airing Tucker's voice and face, here. It's too early to *vurp* in my mouth.

[@anthonycostello6055]

First off, I just went to Amazon and none of Dugin's books are available there. There are books about Dugin available, but none of his books. Thus, the credibility of these two guys is immediately called into question. Second, you know guys have not read anything by the guy they are critiquing when they immediately go into ad hominem attacks, gross generalizations and fail to mention any details of his work. I only watched the section of the video on Dugin, but right there that tells me that a) either these guys are not serious thinkers, or b) if they are, they care less about truth and are simply engaged in power politics, and, as such are willing to act unethically to forward their agenda.

[@brianhotaling5849]

what’s left to return to??

[@AtmosphericAtmosphere]

Did you even read one of Dugin s books?

[@pdebourque9110]

Tommy, government intervention also leads to Kent State, Grant Park etc...the nightmare is coming. I also fear that a mass shooting on campus is unavoidable. I want these young folks fighting the good fight. I am also old enough to justifiably worry for their safety. I have four daughters...

[@lucibjlb]

I agree with you. I think it's naive to think that a disaster can't happen. If I were the parents of these kids, I would be terrified.

[@pdebourque9110]

Sister, I am a 66 year old atheist and I'm praying like crazy. I'm still grieving for Emmitt Till. I grew up surrounded by the Viet Nam war. I can barely survive watching another young life wasted.

[@_Glorie_]

Please more dramatic readings XD

[@mrbigdiscoparty4671]

Is Tucker Carlson, Beaker's less intelligent and charming older brother. His resting face is confused slot machine.

[@julesk1567]

charming? i think you misspelled racist.

[@thunderbiltstormcrow9542]

suppression of music and musicians is quite tactical and smart. while i disagree with such actions i view it as a throwing down of the gauntlet. step up all you troubadours. ; )

[@nomanali5711]

What are you guys talking about Ben, Tommy. Israel has not put forth any deal.

[@whoscares]

❤

[@sharks2571]

The SNP are full of bullshit, and its honestly dissapointing that you dont rightly criticise them for terrible behaviour and backwards policy moves on the most important issue of the century. Humza's resignation was essentially because he massively back stepped on climate commitments, only a few years after COP was hosted in Glasgow (and the SNP had the gaul to lead the "high ambition coalition" whilst simultaneously relying on fossil fuel extraction to financially justify the parties primary goal of independence). The SNP acts like they can rule Scotland however they like and when the greens actually stuck to their word, they act suprised. Lets not forget that the SNP has credible accusations of large scale corruption against them. Im not a crazy anti-SNP person, i have even voted for them multiple times in the past, but the way they get away with minimal criticism from the left astounds me

[@sempressfi]

That dramatic reading 😂😆😂

[@1imorton]

Could we talk about how the accusations of anti-semitism in relation to these protests is overwhelmingly bad-faith? Jewish voice for peace is a leader in these protests and the Jewish community is overrepresented among the protestors. The daily schedule at the Columbia protests were accommodating both the Islamic call to prayer as well as Shabbat. These protests are noteworthy for how ecumenical they are. While I’ve heard of some bad rhetoric coming from some of the protesters, im not seeing any kind serious anti-semitism like we saw in Charlottesville.

[@Balfourization]

Keep tokenizing Jews like JVP

[@lasabre8816]

For what it's worth, I'm a progressive, religious Jew and I'm *very* involved in the American Jewish community. Here are some of my thoughts: 1. Jewish Voice for Peace is considered a fringe movement by most American Jews, even those who are sympathetic to Palestinians. They are not representative of the Jewish community. 2. Jews are and have been very involved in progressive and leftist politics for ages. (See Emma Goldman, Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heshel, and more) 3. Tokenizing Jewish involvement in anything is not ok. 4. Jews can be antisemitic. 5. Antisemitism on the left looks different than antisemitism on the right. Please stop minimizing it.

[@user36112]

​@@lasabre8816Most of your points are factually incorrect.

[@oohhboy-funhouse]

@@lasabre88161: 'Fringe' or not, they are doing good work. Better they represent Jews than what the Israeli pretends to be. Perhaps you should learn what is happening in Israel. People don't have a problem with Jews, they have a problem with what the state of Israel is doing. 2: So what, of course there are people supporting one cause or another, not sure what the point is. I wish them luck and good fortune to do good work. 3: I don't see any tokenization. If it was that one black dude in a MAGA rally, yeah, that is absolutely tokenism. It is not the case here. There is so much going on, so many people, sharing food, solidarity and faith. Insulting to call them tokens when they aren't. 4: Anyone can be racist, who would have thought. Antisemitism should not be held as more important or given special status than any other type of racism. This special status is why this is happening, it enabled the state of Israel to act with impunity. If anyone should be given special status it should be Palestinians who appears to be worth so far 1/30 of an Israeli or 7/200 foreign aid workers 5: Overhyping antisemitism is worse than minimising. Antisemitism has been weaponised to suppress, gaslight, smear and justify any action to opposition or protest. If protesting the war is considered antisemitism then everyone listening to this podcast is anti-Semitic.

[@whatshappening3327]

⁠@@oohhboy-funhouseand what are they doing? They are targeting Hamas in an urban war. When the Palestinians reject peace about a dozen times and choose war instead and they lose??? Peel commission gave them over 75% of the land and they rejected it and chose war and lost. 1948 offered a partition plan and chose war and lost. And then many many times since they offered land for peace and rejected the offer and chose war and lost. Give me a war that has a better civilian to combatant ratio. I’ll wait…you won’t find it..the United States went to war after 9-11. Did we call that a genocide when the civilian to combatant ratio was way worse? How bout after Pearl Harbor when we dropped a nuclear bomb on the Japan? Was that a genocide? And how did Israel get created? Because Britain gained control of the land after ww1 and was given the task to creating nation states all throughout the Middle East including Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Jordan So they saw a Jewish minority group and a Muslim majority group fighting over land and how could govern the area and since they didn’t want to control the land forever they had to make a final decision and leave… So they made the final offer and the Palestinians made their bed. Israel has a missile defense system that stops rockets from hitting their own people. Israel could use their own people for political manipulation like Hamas does with its own people and hide amongst them by building elaborate tunnels under hospitals and shielding themselves with civilians therefore making Israel look bad but Israel doesn’t do that. It sends text messages and calls the phones of Palestinians warning them they are about to target Hamas. They send out knocker bombs to alarm the Citizens that an attack is about to take place. Sending notes from helicopters to leave the area. Going above and above Beyond to limit casualties and yet Hamas targets civilians on purpose and kills babies alive. Now don’t tell me just how much you don’t like what Israel is doing.. Tell me what you would do differently… What is your alternative solution to having 1200 of your people slaughtered?? Don’t just be against something..tell me what you are for…at least you wont qualify as a coward

[@otzovio]

Как вообще таких показывает мне ютуб. Лицо-рука

[@Casper50002]

Blind sheeples on this channel 😂

[@user-jy8zb2wc8l]

On China: I think we should be going back to the principles of democracy and not keep falling for this nation state vs nation state justifications. The fact is that we let all kinds of companies, including tech companies, exist in China without any conditions to things like the firewall, worker protections, justice system over there, was a mistake and rather than threatening economic sanctions, it should be about prioritising specific conditions that benefit people everywhere and not have "how dare you arm our enemy" as the red line to sanction on.

[@catherinebirch8263]

Back how far? What would be better within the US would be to go forward to implementing the principles of democracy to at least the same standard as most other Western countries. What would also be better would be to allow people in other countries to implement their own principles in their own way. Imposing your own principles on them by military or economic force can only ever have one result, which is their utter rejection.

[@godzgoliath]

No shame but it's wierd to think tommy was someone they brolled for newsroom

[@Zeouterlimits]

There's a lot ye could cover about politics in NZ right now, it's awful.

[@dhibba52]

Blinken: Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, Hamas. Netanyahu: Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, Hamas.🙄🙄🙄

[@creativeslink]

Dear pod I’m gonna be honest I don’t know the administration. I know Biden Harris Blinken and boot edge edge (my personal fave) can we get more admin folks on the pods?

[@AM-fs1je]

Love Pete.

[@creativeslink]

@@AM-fs1je maybe we love him because he is visible? What if there are others?! Sunday morning talk shows and editorials reach no one anymore. Let’s get the admin on the pod. Also I’m a bit bored of the Obama admin filter. Let’s spice it up a bit. Let’s hear them! Let’s spark internal debate class and graduation cancellation vs mass arrest on campus. Economic anxiety has to be addressed by someone and they better be new.

[@nolanwoods4173]

Everytime there is a national protest we are reminded that we only have the illusion of free speech when we actually live in a police state.

[@corporalsoletrain2132]

That's asinine. You've never been anywhere near a real police state.

[@nolanwoods4173]

@@corporalsoletrain2132 Vietnam protests, BLM, Kent state. Go look at actual footage of National guard and police beating and killing civilians during protests and come back to tell me how "extremely stupid" I am.

[@corporalsoletrain2132]

@nolanwoods4173 Kent State where students who had been lawfully ordered to disperse violently assaulted armed NG? We don't arm riot control anymore. Police state wouldn't make those changes.

[@corporalsoletrain2132]

@@nolanwoods4173 BLM protest response was a travesty. We voted the fucker out. Police state wouldn't do that.

[@corporalsoletrain2132]

@@nolanwoods4173 "Vietnam protests" is too vague to respond to.

[@checksandbalances6714]

Sure China is not going to like the US strengthening our position - too bad / this is like Putin complaining about NATO China’s economy has improved and industrialized in the last 40 years thanks to the US (look at 90% of items in your home ) so they will have to get used to the US ending the warm & fuzzy campaign that has mostly benefited China and created a handful of billionaires in the US (like Walton /walmart family that barely pay taxes but donate to Republican PACs in the millions )

[@catherinebirch8263]

And I am not going to like the US invading China. It's OK for you - assuming you live in the US. You're far enough away that you'll probably be OK, except of course for the flow-on economic costs, which will be significant for the ordinary person. Unless China should decide that self-defense merits an assault of the US mainland, as opposed to just retaliation against the countries hosting the attacking US forces. But I live in one of the countries that has agreed to be a host for your war. Maybe they felt they had no option, but typically countries that host US wars do not come out of it well. Do you guys really not care about ANYONE who isn't a US citizen?

[@tankiebot704]

Well then the US is going to lose

[@kevinpulliam3661]

Did you guys even listen to the arguments Dugin was talking about how liberalism came from nominalism which led to Protestantism and thus breaking away from the Catholic Church to start liberalism which emphasizes the importance of the individuals liberation over all else? Do you have any answers to that argument or are you just going to virtue signal?

[@thomasfucillo]

They have nothing, they’re liberals. They label the whole thing with thought-stopping cliches like “unhinged” and then try to memory-hole the whole thing without thinking about it.

[@therightway8412]

Exactly, there was no argument.

[@IsomerSoma]

How does justify being a facist? Have you seen dugins party flag? Its a crossover of the nazi flag and the soviet one. All the parties he was member in where explicitely facist, some hailed the SS and were explicitely antisemitic. You have lost the plot.

[@kevinpulliam3661]

@@therightway8412 yeah because if there was an honest dialectic they’d go back to the Church which is why currently the Church is seeing a lot of converts who are traditional

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

Can you explain to us the difference between Fascism and what Dugin promulgates? Also, assuming you’re well versed in traditionalism; could you explain to us how Dugin can square his devotion to the doctrines of Aleister Crowley and his membership in the Black Order of the SS with his traditional values and current identification as an Orthodox Christian?

[@mahoganyk]

I appreciated hearing the perspective of student protestors, but i would have really appreciated hearing the perspective of jewish students at columbia and on other campuses. I think a lot of what you guys said felt very one-sided, and the framing of "free speech" seemed like a clear rationalization of the antisemtic nature of many of these protests. "Zionists arent welcome" means jews arent welcome.

[@Bvi9169]

Zionisum is not a faith. It's a political ideology. You should know better

[@julesk1567]

are you daft? being a zionist and being jewish are two separate things. just because a lot of American jews are being/have been brainwashed to be uncritical, loyal, israel supporting zionists does neither mean that jews are per default zionists nor that all zionists are jewish, matter of fact the biggest group of zionists are evangelical Americans.

[@johnfox3573]

has Carlsen still got a US passport?

[@PanikaMCD]

y’all know better than to come up with new acronyms. don’t do that.

[@robertfeatherby3118]

I watched the Carlson Dugin interview, or at least 20 minutes of it. Nothing "unhinged" in my opinion. Dugin (anti-Soviet) talks about Leberalism as a long March initially against Communism Facism Totalitarian governments etc. and how it is about freeing the individual. Which sounds great. But he says it is now targeting gender, making gender "optional", then targeting traditional family structures and finally he sees an end point where humanity will be "optional" and some people/ideologies/governments will tolt towards human/AI hybrids or full AI. Just an opinion, which you can agree with or disagree with. Note that Dugin is a philosopher, not a politician.

[@kevinpulliam3661]

Your comment implies that people here care about reason and arguments rather than doing the white knuckling to clamp down the opposite the entire liberal order is doing right now. Unfortunately for all of us they don’t actually care

[@IsomerSoma]

Its unhinged due to who dugin is. He has praised the Waffen SS, advocates for total warfare against eastern europe to realize a totalitarian eurasian super state, mutlitple times has called for genocides e.g. against ukrainians but not just them, he has been member of an antisemitics-neonazi esoteric cult and so on. Dugin is WAY more extreme than putin. With dugin we would have a hitler in russia and ww3 for sure. Thats why this interview is unhinged. Calling him "Putins brain" is inaccurate. Dugin is an intellectual leader of a ultrarighwing semi OPPOSITION to putin that thinks putin is not extreme enough. By analogy carlson just gave Alfred Bäumler (Nazi philosopher) an interview on how jews being alive and free is the product of american degeneracy around 1939. Thats the level unhinged we are talking about.

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

What Dugin says in the interview masks his true telos. He is a hardcore fascist and authoritarian who calls for genocide of Ukrainian people. His criticism of liberalism comes from a place of extreme fear and confusion. This is made more bizarre considering his devotion to Aleister Crowley’s doctrines. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/opCzlIqGocytndk&pp=ygUNRHVnaW4gQ3Jvd2xleQ%3D%3D

[@wendyflores1092]

40:49 😅😅 I think that they actually liberalized their system, at least in the way that interests the West, they are a completely capitalist economic system, the party can "call" itself "communist" but what they are actually doing is 100% capitalist, and those are their incentives , you yourselves have just admitted it regarding the benefits they obtain from doing business with Russia, now, since they did capitalism in a more efficient way that the US I'm beginning to think that the US just need constant enemies 😅😅, and also, let's start talking about the exploitation that Chinese workers suffer under the "communist" system in a descriptive way, they have no benefits, they are overexploited, they have no retirement, they can fall into extreme poverty at any time...

[@catherinebirch8263]

"I'm beginning to think that the US just need constant enemies". Yes. George Orwell wrote a book about it once upon a time. How much difference is there in practice between a system where the government runs Big Business, and a system where Big Business runs the government? Capitalism and Communism might be at different ends of a piece of string, but that piece of string is shaped in a circle and the extremes of both systems blend into each other.

[@nishantkamat]

Well meaning protestor: "we have the right to tear down posters because of freedom of speech"

[@Bvi9169]

Guys nothing on Modi and him being a fascist !

[@LunaLasceria]

As a liberal, transgender computer scientist, I'm afraid Dugin might be on to us!

[@somethingorother3742]

men have penis women have vagina

[@tankiebot704]

He's spot on

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/opCzlIqGocytndk&pp=ygUNRHVnaW4gQ3Jvd2xleQ%3D%3D

[@mawest4775]

All I saw was Tucker Carlson sucking up to Putin as Putin repeatedly insulted him

[@rigod100]

Butt hurt?

[@mawest4775]

@@rigod100 why would I be?

[@mmanesh6713]

Good analysis of Iranian government's arrests and prosecutions. These are exactly signs of how pathetic, fragile, and weak the regime is. #toomaj_salehi

[@Tchnfrq]

35:10 replace russia/china with the us/israel and somehow thats ok to blinken because palestina has been denied its sovereignty by israel longer than ukraine its by russia. or what is his excuse?

[@jodylowe8476]

Tucker's name will go down in history, but not good history.

[@Bvi9169]

Ditto for Biden and Blinken

[@jodylowe8476]

@@Bvi9169 You're struggling B

[@Bvi9169]

@@jodylowe8476 time will tell. But in many minds their complicit actions to support a Genocide falls into the Iraq/Afghanistan category. You already know that on some level... Way more then Tucker.

[@therightway8412]

The man's a saint. The left has become completely morally and intellectually bankrupt.

[@tankiebot704]

America is evil in general

[@lamaar8252]

1st?

[@romanzaporozhets4237]

I cant believe Taker interviewing an open fascist Dugin. It's insane

[@kevinpulliam3661]

But you call anyone you dislike a fascist so that’s not really telling

[@romanzaporozhets4237]

@@kevinpulliam3661 google Dugin. He literally is a fascist and participated in fascist clubs n stuff. Like come on

[@rigod100]

​@@romanzaporozhets4237🤡

[@kevinpulliam3661]

@@romanzaporozhets4237 you can go on his wiki page and literally see that he advocates for politics that isn’t liberalism, fascism, and communism as he sees them as all wrong. Which is why he advocates for an Orthodox/Catholic pre-modern style of government with subsidiarity which is fundamentally not fascist

[@romanzaporozhets4237]

@kevinpulliam3661 you can read a hundred articlws describing his involvement in fascist movements and clubs as well as his faughter doing nazi saluts in Moscow

[@paulblack8887]

Know your enemy 🇮🇱

[@theman44ful]

Your antisemitic comments on other posts say the quiet part out loud

[@rigod100]

Butt hurt?

[@IsomerSoma]

@@theman44ful This kind of dog whistling is so obvious that no other comments are needed.

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

Do you have a pathological fixation on hurting bums? Paging Dr. Freud!!

[@user-xu3cp8wf8h]

Those two are weird. They are just talking. No real knowledge of the situation. Just bla, bla, bla

[@mm5478]

How's Dugin's daughter doing? Oh wait - booooom! She's a little broken up about the war her nation started.

[@MrGolov-te5eb]

💤

[@mm5478]

@@MrGolov-te5eb You’re correct. She’s getting a lot of Z’s during her permanent dirt nap. Bet it’s really hot where she is kept. But she knows all the characters in the hot place so she’ll be comfortable.

[@rigod100]

Chasov Yar 🥰

[@mm5478]

@@rigod100 Isn't that a recent/on going battle where the Orcs/Russians (as if anyone was in doubt who the Orcs are), attack in meat waves?

[@MrGolov-te5eb]

@@mm5478 Z

[@munnychinni5386]

American propaganda 😂