Tudor Pelagos FXD and vintage Marine Nationale Submariners

[@quarters-eye8922]

The best watch channel on KZbin. Hands Down.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you so much for your continued support and enthusiasm- it means a lot!

[@oliverwiantrmerholme112]

Love your enthusiasm and great knowledge! “Thanks Mom!” 😆

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you!

[@johnnyguitar6697]

Owner of an issued M.N.80 94010 bought in Brest 18 years ago here. Having received a M.N.22 civilian FXD a few days ago, I can only echo your comments. This wears much better on my medium sized (7 inch) wrist than I would have thought. Very clever design, and completely in the spirit of the original snowflake Tudor Submariner's. Bought a couple of Crown & Buckle single piece fabric strap with adjustable loop, and they fit this watch really well.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Enjoy, both great pieces👍🏻

[@yasha8951]

I love the fact the watch has fixed lugs even considering the first Pelagos has one of the best if not the best bracelet in the market, fixed lugs is the the ultimate tool watch case design feature, thanks for the review, hope you can get your hands on one of those issued watches would love to see it closely, I've about the same wrist size as yours and I'm really considering getting this for my self as my 40th birthday present

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you! For the record, I think this makes a great present to oneself.

[@mauriciomucino1015]

@@WATCHISTRY It did!! Sitting under My christmas tree at this moment!

[@yasha8951]

@@WATCHISTRY I got it!!!, finally got the call from the dealership for a M.N 22

[@yasha8951]

@@WATCHISTRY btw any chance you are thinking on a second edition of your book including the FXD?

[@AK-jl5xt]

You ain’t pulling it off - just like him - with a wrist size the same as his …

[@scottt.4596]

Wow! This video was totally unexpected this morning! Great job! I really enjoyed it with my coffee. Thanks! On my Wish List!

[@WATCHISTRY]

So glad you enjoyed it over the precious morning coffee ritual!

[@fbernacke]

Fantastic review!! All the different angle shots were amazing.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you!

[@ndcstraps]

Scott, Superb video as always. Thank you for the mention...very kind of you. Your book is one that gets referred too several times a week. Thank you so much for your incredible efforts. Best regards

[@Romio666]

I own my modern Tolex and my only vintage watch is the 16600. I got the MN21 but couldn’t resist searching for an MN77 (birth year), or just suggest another vintage MN.

[@desireless4092]

On my 7 inch wrist the FXD wears like a dream. The strap fits me perfectly and it is really easy to adjust on the go when my wrist expands during the day.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Agreed, it's a great piece!

[@desireless4092]

@@WATCHISTRY indeed. Any idea where I can get the alternative straps? I really like the black one with the carabiner system.

[@michaelhoward6752]

Thank you for making this video. Your video and expertise is second to none. I’m am trying to find an original version of the FXD. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you again.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you! I really appreciate it. If you mean the one made especially for the MN commandos with just two lines on the dial, they do pop up on chrono24 once in a while

[@henrikdotc]

Wonderful video, and I love how knowledgeable you are and how you effortlessly share knowledge and incorporate it in the video. Looks like you’ve got some great perlon straps too. Where do you usually get yours?

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you! These are from crown and buckle.

[@g999bg999b]

Super content. Thank you! Bought the book (in French) and a cap ! Vive la Royale !

[@WATCHISTRY]

Please be sure to wear the hat while reading 😉 thank you!

[@kobyjones]

Just bought the book yesterday to go along with my Yema Navygraf.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you for your support 🙏🏻👍🏻

[@anacquiredtaste3582]

Bought the Pelagos FXD MN21. Stunning.

[@Macrorotor]

i have the same wrist size and this video makes me take a second look at the FXD, thanks!

[@WATCHISTRY]

My pleasure!

[@chulkcha]

Excellent review. Thanks for showing us the difference between military and civilian issued versions and against the original sub.

[@WATCHISTRY]

My pleasure!

[@THX-C]

I put the FXD on a perlon strap because I have the same sized wrists. Prior to trying it on at the AD, I doubted I could wear it. It is easily my favorite watch.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Agree, I really like it on perlon too

[@wadebolderman3250]

Great video! The only thing I will add is that the FXD in fact has a sapphire crystal and not a mineral crystal, as you stated in this video.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thanks! you're right, good catch!

[@watchrolling]

Great video! I dig this piece but if they had put the Tudor Rose on the dial vice the shield---oh, that would've been a chef's kiss.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you!

[@watchrolling]

@@WATCHISTRY you're welcome

[@bulanglangbangus]

love this channel! stumbled here accidentally because ive been eyeing on a pelagos Fxd. btw, are those perlons from C&B grey or black? I dont know if its the lighting you use or if the color is Admiralty Grey. tnx.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you so much! The perlons are black. Grey would look great too!

[@markpalmer3936]

Hi great video. I am interested in purchasing your book but it does not seem to be available on Amazon. Do you by chance have any copies still for sale?

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you! yes, the Marine Nationale book is available on watchistry.com . Thank you for your support 🙏🏻👍🏻

[@U2RockGuitar]

This video review is perfection, thank you! Is the issued FXD without crown guards or was that just the angle of the camera? P.s. the FXD on NDC strap looks amazing

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you so much! The issued FXD has crown guards; the case is physically identical to the civilian version.

[@paaustria]

Very good review! Comprehensive strap analysis!

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you!

[@horologyproject]

Incredibly informative review. Very appreciative. I got offered one yesterday, but couldn’t reply to my AD until later in the day and missed out. I’m still on the fence on whether it’ll be too large on my slightly smaller than 6.5” wrist.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you, I think you will like it!

[@jontypaine]

Great review. Do you have a link to the Perlon strap used in this video?

[@WATCHISTRY]

It's a 22mm perlon from Crown & Buckle

[@kurts4867]

Great review!!!! Love the comparison to the older models !!!!

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you, so glad you liked it!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Another great video brother! I absolutely love your collection ❤️ congrats on the FXD BTW!

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you!

[@martinkaplan1805]

Fascinating, useful and well told. Thank you!

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you!

[@kentlewis988]

Great video and content, but you misspoke when you said the FXD has mineral glass - perhaps it slipped through the editing process. Again, great video and content!

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you!

[@inglebybhoy3293]

Thanks for the very interesting review. I particularly enjoyed your thoughts on the dimensions and strap options. I hope you manage to bag a M.N. issued FXD before too long. with decommissioning papers, …..ahem!

[@WATCHISTRY]

My pleasure! While it would be cool to have an issued one now, I think it will be even more exciting in a few years if one pops up that has some wear and tear from issued use.

[@julianscoffield4477]

This video, and your page in general, are fantastic! Thanks for all the informative content! I’ve been thinking about purchasing a vintage Tudor to celebrate acquiring a graduate degree, but I’ve always wondered how well they keep time? I know that no one should expect pristine accuracy from a mechanical movement but my experience with newer ETA movements (2428-2 and 2892-A2) have been great. Should I expect the same from the Caliber 2784?

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you! If properly serviced, these vintage watches can keep more than good enough time for everyday use

[@andreascappini9684]

The new fxd Pelagos M.N. is going to be another collector's favorite, rallying in price!

[@kiettipat9706]

Very informative and fun to watch , thank you for such a good content.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you!

[@peterfreeman1483]

Where did you get the strap on the fxd? Really like the weave. I enjoy the original but always like a change. Nice vid by the way!

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you! It is from Crown & Buckle, perlon

[@Memo-im6ft]

Very well done and good source of information as always.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@leoncaine3900]

Hi nice video - where do you get your perlon straps

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you! Crown & Buckle has some nice ones

[@JS97278]

Very interesting in regards to the strap, I’ve been trying to find someone with the black strap ever since the FXD was leaked (I collect Military issued straps)

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you!

[@christophebenoit8014]

Very interesting ! Thanks a lot for this video. Where can I buy your book ?

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you! Please visit www.blurb.com/user/watchistry

[@Romio666]

Excellent thanks for the comparison

[@WATCHISTRY]

My pleasure!

[@iivv_nn]

the strap mod is top tier

[@raihanmdi7137]

Hi, may i know what color is the crown&buckle perlon strap on the FXD? Is it grey or checker melange (both pretty similar looking based on their website)? Thank you in advance

[@WATCHISTRY]

It is black

[@Andrew.W75]

Great video, I was under the impression that the issued version of the FXD had a ETA or Selitta movement fitted rather than an in house Tudor one?

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you! While I haven't seen anyone open up the issued version of the FXD, I would be really surprised if it was any different from the Tudor in-house movement in the civilian FXD. The vintage Tudor MNs were also identical to their civilian counterparts, using ETA movements, which made them more attractive from a cost perspective than the Rolex Submariners of the same time period.

[@steves8322]

If you pull strap further through the watch and bring buckle close to side it will shorten the tail. I have 7” wrist and thought strap was too long but was actually plenty short once I adjusted properly. You didn’t have to cut it. Love the watch though! Just secured my 21 before the end of the year😁picking it up tomorrow!

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you. It also depends where you'd like the buckle to sit on your wrist and the amount of doubling up you prefer- on my smaller wrist I still had excess in that configuration. I am also hearing that there may be different sized straps for different markets, mine being for the US market.

[@PoltergeistWorks]

@@WATCHISTRY Actually that's not a buckle, but a loop, same as the loop on original MN straps and really looks a bit weird at the center of the wrist like that ;) But if you like it then great!

[@LuckyJack99]

Great vid and thanks for the amazing research !!!!

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you for the encouragement 👍🏻

[@jonrobinson6851]

Did Tudor ever make a fixed lug model back in the day like the Milsub?

[@WATCHISTRY]

Generally no; the Tudor Submariners used spring bars. That said, I have seen one online, and only one, Tudor Submariner issued to the MN that had fixed lugs; because I haven't seen others, it's hard to say how that came about.

[@jonrobinson6851]

Interesting. Do you recall what the dial/hands configuration was?@@WATCHISTRY

[@WATCHISTRY]

A blue snowflake

[@jonrobinson6851]

Interesting@@WATCHISTRY

[@mikaxms]

I believe ADs can also supply shorter straps.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you, I will go back and ask my AD

[@justingalore123]

On my 6.25 I got the strap ok by ensuring the maximum amount was on the double over - ie making sure the titanium loop was close to the watch head. In that way the OG strap was just about OK. That said a Garmin strap (about £4) even better

[@WATCHISTRY]

Good tip! Thank you

[@finenavaljewelry5798]

How did you mount the NDC strap?

[@WATCHISTRY]

The version I have is a traditional version only stitched at the hook end, allowing you to remove the catch piece. Reach out to them to see which model in their current collection would work.

[@vincentabella]

Where can I buy your book?

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you for your interest! 10%off through 8/31, code FXD www.watchistry.com/shop/marine-nationale-book

[@vincentabella]

Thanks! Already placed the order.

[@Bugster987]

Very nice. Great strap mod too. Would be good if Tudor offered a similar shorter option.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you- agreed, would love to see a shorter fabric strap offered by Tudor- but I think it's only a matter of time before some interesting aftermarket options appear.

[@winenvine]

@@WATCHISTRY Tudor offer a small, medium and large version of the fabric strap. I presented my warranty card with receipt at Tudor service centre. They swapped it for me.

[@WATCHISTRY]

@@winenvine thank you, I am glad to see they started doing this!

[@mmc81821]

What is the going rate for one of these beauties nowadays?

[@WATCHISTRY]

Prices are all over the place, but seem to be north of US$20k

[@resjon7981]

Good review, this watch would have been better if it came with a Marine Nationale style strap as well to compliment the heritage and also would provide a better fit for smaller wrists.

[@TommyRibs]

This watch is awesome.

[@summerlinpublic5673]

What size is your wrist? it looks very big for you.

[@WATCHISTRY]

6.25" - hard to appreciate it over video but for me I feel it works.

[@adamwest5625]

Picked up the FXD a month ago - absolutely love it and really nice addition to the Pelagos range. I used to own the Pelagos LHD and the FXD wears thinner and smaller despite the lug-to-lug at 52mm which in reality wears smaller with the NATO straps. Sold my LHD in June when I expressed interest in a new Submariner 124060 no date. Got the call to pick up and couldn’t be happier to get one at retail! Despite that I was looking at a BB58 Blue. Then I heard the FXD being released so asked my AD keep me in mind. Happy to have picked up 2 brilliant divers in the Submariner and FXD 😎

[@WATCHISTRY]

Awesome!

[@KRW628]

Is the fabric strap black or blue? It looks black or dark gray in all the other reviews. Yours is the only strap which looks blue.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Hi, the fabric strap on the FXD is a dark blue

[@muffemod]

Thanks Mom!

[@brucema1492]

Hi… how can I order the book? Please

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you for your interest! You can find it here: www.blurb.com/b/9912683-marine-nationale-english-language-edition

[@AK-jl5xt]

80 bucks?!?! Taking the mick!

[@RabbitWatchShop]

@@AK-jl5xt a lot of research went into that book. A lot of original pictures were taken. It’s well worth its weight in gold to any Tudor fan.

[@davidcarriker3421]

What strap is that black one on the FXD?

[@davidcarriker3421]

Nevermind, I see now. C&B.

[@mauriciomucino1015]

Any thoughts on the Yema MN version?

[@WATCHISTRY]

I haven't checked one out yet, but hope to someday.

[@GuardedCrown]

way to go mom. that strap came out great!

[@edgeyt1]

I wish they did a black version.

[@NPrez-cv4jn]

I’m a fan of the new Pelagos but dammm that old Submariner MN 77 looks sexy.

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thank you! There's certainly something special about an old watch

[@Ludovicode]

Marine Nationale France:ZRC Grands Fonds ?

[@choond]

Great review 👍

[@WATCHISTRY]

Thanks! 👍

[@teecee9660]

strap for the fed? what is it?

[@WATCHISTRY]

It's a perlon strap from Crown and Buckle

[@brucema1492]

Very informative… thank you

[@WATCHISTRY]

My pleasure!

[@christopherliang6879]

At the same price I would buy the 79090. However, the price points are unfortunately very different

[@joshs3916]

Vintage Tudor 🔥

[@mattvalade2609]

I have to have one

[@wadsworth2351]

Too much wording on the dial. Should have stuck to the two line Command Hubert version.

[@WATCHISTRY]

I agree 👍🏻 👍🏻

[@jrwitherite12]

Why not just order the smaller strap? lol

[@WATCHISTRY]

Great idea, but at the time of launch, Tudor hadn't yet offered a smaller strap and I couldn't wait!

[@robkeeling7001]

the pelagos is too big needs to revert to 38mm