Ancient Tongans and Samoans we're one people, you young people talk too much
@Bible4thelazy3 жыл бұрын
@@originalclaymoreboy728 oh gummon man
@Bible4thelazy3 жыл бұрын
@@originalclaymoreboy728 how do you know that?🤷♂️ 😋
@Bible4thelazy3 жыл бұрын
@@originalclaymoreboy728old Tongan language is basically Samoan. It's not hard research, The Tongan royal family (kanokupolu line)are proud of their heritage and are related to the Malietoa line. The two islands go back further than that, Just research the Tongan myth about how Tonga was created.
@@originalclaymoreboy728 pls explain your stance on how they're not the same
@jmjm1920 Жыл бұрын
Manuka originally from Fisi Namuka which is Nomuka in Ha'apai and Manuka in Tongatapu brought to Ha'amoa Hahake by Ha'a Maui Tonga Fusifonua and Tavatava o Manuka Title so When was Satiailemoa the first Tuimanuka with 40 Chiefs Titles started and 54 Supreme TuiTonga Titles Timeline 🤔
@moekontze1163 жыл бұрын
It obvious from this exchange that clearly stated one is ignorant of the truth. It is no use trying to explain things to someone who is anti. Maybe best for old people who knew the ancestry history to face her and she can argue with them, because she seemed to know more than anyone else in the Pacific the Ancient history of the two islands. I would love her come face to face with old Tongans and Samoans who know more than us fiapoko young people of today.
@moanamakoni79203 жыл бұрын
Fr bro😂😂
@R19sianaa3 жыл бұрын
@Stop the leg pulling Uso aikae and shut the hell up
@R19sianaa2 жыл бұрын
@Stop the leg pulling Sir you want me to get hit by a belt just because I told everyone in the district to aikae?
@kakalutangitangi9869 Жыл бұрын
Samoa was never ruled by one person. Salamasina was the closest. She ruled 4 of the five major clans in Samoa. So how would the Tuimanua ever controlled the Pacific?
@ltmg98326 ай бұрын
Wow! You guys refuse to just give it up hey!
@matthewlio69954 ай бұрын
The Kings of Samoa Tui Manua,was the ancient and highest ranked before Tui Tonga and the Tui kanokupolu the first Samoan kings of Tonga,in Samoa the Tui Manua the Malietoa and the Tui Atua are the the Samoan kings
@fabianniestegge41052 жыл бұрын
Is it Tonga Time?
@jaqenhghar29702 жыл бұрын
it sure is, friend.
@skeptacleone2 жыл бұрын
Been Tongan Aint Enough, You Need SAMOA !!!!
@siomokof3425 Жыл бұрын
@@skeptacleone 😂😂😂🎯💯
@semilangi54323 жыл бұрын
This fake news😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 There were no rulers or Empire before Tuitonga 😂😂😂😂😂 The only rulers before Tuitonga were the god clan Tangaloa Rulers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Just do the math....they say Society islands was colonized by Samoa in 1025AD 😂😂😂😂 that's the era of ruling Tangaloa 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Around the time before Tuitonga much of Polynesia wasn't settled 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@semilangi54323 жыл бұрын
@Tulouna Le Lagi 😂😂😂😂 Do you really believe that Pulotu existed 40 generations from 1909?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 TuiManua Elisara passed in 1909 You know very well Pulotu became the place we can only return to after we die😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Your sources failed to notice particular details in oral traditions that discredit and debunk TuiManua Empire 😂😂😂 Tavatava ki Manuka maui clan paddling via canoe to Manu'a to procure the fishing hook🤔🤔🤔 Manu'a is referred to as Maama(Earth) Lu fleeing Tagaloa Lagi to Maama(earth) he finds islands naming it Samoa honoring his uncle Moa😂😂😂😂 Samoa is Maama (Earth) not Langi 😂😂😂 Manu'a has no mounds elevated to the Langi where Tangaloa resided 😂😂😂😂 Fitiuta settlement was dated earliest 1000AD Ahoeitu's story ...he doesnt jump in a canoe to go find his father in supposedly Manu'a Samoa 😂😂😂😂😂 the story has it that he climbs a toa tree....and stories preserved in Heliaki( metaphoric, symbolic poetry) the means Langi home of Tangaloa is accessed in Tonga...it means that Langi of Tangaloa is rooted in Tonga😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 You should copy my comment and forward it to your sources😂😂😂 TuiManua TaeoTagaloa Folasa 😂😂😂😂😂 you know how that translate in tongan😂😂😂😂😂😂 Folaha is where Tangaloa Eitumatupu'a lived ....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@semilangi54323 жыл бұрын
@Tulouna Le Lagi uce your fairytale of Tuipulotu Empire and TuiManua Empire 😂😂😂😂 than when did the Tangaloa rulers rule Polynesia 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Your TuiManua Empire doesn't align with the migration to eastern Polynesia 😂😂😂😂 1025AD to 1200AD....that's the period of the peak of Tuitonga empire..... so the islands of which supposedly collected umiti from didn't even exist😂😂😂 stretched and felt throughout an imaginary empire 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Nothing in Manu'a's landscape says it was an empire😂😂😂😂
@boxcuber3 жыл бұрын
@Anna Tagi he’s said to me on another video the royal tombs built in Tonga were built long after aho eitu 😂😂 that was he argument againts that
@horsekfobster78233 жыл бұрын
@Anna Tagi Still MMT but Tonga was definitely colonized, Germans and now the Chinese. Tongan sellouts like the current king and George Tupou put up no fight
@horsekfobster78233 жыл бұрын
@Anna Tagi He’s like a figurehead, a puppet for the colonizers in power. He’s selling us out to China, that’s why the drug problem is getting worse because the meth is coming from China
@matafaka55204 күн бұрын
“The 2eye Tonga” 😂
@noah-xv8cv11 ай бұрын
I AM NOT COMMENTING THIS BECAUSE IM SAMOAN⚠️⚠️⚠️. I 💯 believe that all polynesian came from Samoans or Tu'i Manu'a empire. I don't care which empire is bigger, I care where do most polynesian originate from. But I will list out summaries and links below: 🇹🇴Tonga:According to Samoan oral tradition, Tonga was once under the sway of the Tui Manu'a and paid tribute to the chiefs of Samoa. In the tenth century this dominance was reversed, the Tui Manu'a were supplanted by the Tuʻi Tonga Empire, and Samoa's chiefs paid tribute to Tonga. In the thirteenth century Talakaifaiki brought Samoa under his direct control, and established a capital at Safotu on the island of Savaiʻi. He was later driven out by the progenitors of the Malietoa dynasty.Despite this successful rebellion intermarriages between Tongan and Samoan chiefly lines continued, and Ngata, the progenitor of the current Tonga royal dynasty, the Tuʻi Kanokupolu, was of Samoan descent.According to Samoan legend, Aso'aitu (Aho’eitu in Samoan) was the first Tu’i Tonga (ruler of the south) and son of a deified Samoan high chief, Tangaloa ‘Eitumâtupu’a, and whose mother was a Tongan woman, Va’epopua, of great noble birth. This double origin, entitled the Tu’i Tonga to hold both divine and secular offices. For Samoa in particular, it was especially important to have these genealogical links in order for one's rule to be legitimized. This is seen again in later centuries during Queen Salamasina's time, as she was descended from this same line of both Samoan and Tongan aristocracy. In principle, the close cultural and historical interlinkages between Fiji, Samoa and Tonga were essentially elitist, involving the intermarriage between regional aristocratic families. 🇼🇫 Uvea Mo Futuna (Wallis And Futuna:Oral tradition records rich connections with the Samoans, whose arrival was peaceful. The sovereigns of the kingdom of Alo would thus come from Samoa (lineage of Fakavelikele). Similarities in constructions were also observed between the two islands. There is no suspect of the connection between Uvean (Wallisan) and Samoan I could find. 🇳🇺Niue:Polynesians from Samoa settled Niue around 900 AD. Further settlers arrived from Tonga in the 16th century. 🇹🇰 Tokelau:Archaeological evidence indicates that the atolls of Tokelau - Atafu, Nukunonu, and Fakaofo - were settled about 1,000 years ago from Samoa. 🇳🇿Aotearoa/New zealand: www.tiktok.com/@themsavaiiboys/video/7296025599687003393?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7315791942980519426 Tuwhaka-raro - Tuisavalalo Whakatau-potiki - Va'atausili Manahua - Manu'a Muriwhenua - Mulifanua Whangaroa - Fagaloa Whangarei - Fagalei Apakura - Apalua 🇺🇲Hawaii: www.tiktok.com/@themsavaiiboys/video/7270805144026041602 Hawai'i Havai'i (pronounced in hawaiian) Savai'i Links: www.science.org/content/article/game-changing-study-suggests-first-polynesians-voyaged-all-way-east-asia www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/study-reveals-intrepid-seafarers-started-in-samoa-before-settling-polynesia-20210923-p58u3v.html www.samoanews.com/linking-samoans/dna-study-reveals-samoa-islands-starting-point-polynesian-migration www.worldhistory.org/uploads/images/10691.png?v=1599156904 www.gifex.com/detail-en/2009-12-29-11508/Polynesian_migration_in_Oceania.html Empire size comparison: Tu'i Manu'a: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tui_Manu%27a#/media/File%3ATui_Manu'a_Empire_Map.png Tu'i tonga: twitter.com/GeographyNow/status/1525942109584228352 Empire Language comparison: Tu'i Manu'a: Samoan Tongan Fijian Futunan Niuean Uvean Tuvaluan Tokelauan Cook Islands Māori i-Kiribati Tahitian Rotuman Pukapukan Tuʻi Tonga: Samoan Tongan Futunan Uvean Fijian Many Polynesian languages uses "k" in their alphabet while the Samoan uses the " ' "(Apostrophe) in their alphabet which support that some alphabet are added from the Samoan language. IF YOU DON'T AGREE OR AGAINST, IT'S ALL FINE, I WONT JUDGE YOUR OWN OPINION⚠️⚠️⚠️. ONE LOVE ❤❤❤🇳🇿🇹🇰🇨🇰🇼🇫🇳🇺🇼🇸🇦🇸🇹🇴
@Alipac46311 ай бұрын
We're all one color underneath Short dog is in the house you better listen to me. Too short.
@Sideeyezz10 ай бұрын
According to Tongan History Tui Manua didn't make the cut 😂😂😂 he don't exist my guy
@howdoyouknowme98025 ай бұрын
Stop talking ki’o usi
@TONGA-ITITE-AU-O-TONGA4 ай бұрын
This is about Tonga not Samoa.😮😮
@jmjm19203 жыл бұрын
LAPITA MIGRATION first settlement from Western Vanuatu Fisi Tonga Uvea Futuna before Ha'amoa and rest of Polynesia Tongan Empire Ruler of Polynesia Ofu Ta'u Manuka chiefs from Ancient Tongan practices called Tokatufa 'Umutakitaki! 🤫
@umsula2 жыл бұрын
Sii they’re talking about empire not settlers! Oua fa’a pa pe me’a oho, ilonga ai ho tae’ilo(ignorance)
@nesian_1832 жыл бұрын
USO tui manuka is tui manu'a islands of America Samoa today Tonga and Samoa are one through tagaloa eiki god of the skies in Tonga and tagaloalagi of Samoa who is our creator the same creator that begot ahoeitu and ngata the same line in Tonga which is called kanokupolu the line where tongas first governor came king George Tupou taufaahau the first because just like Tonga Samoa and polynesia we now know that the most powerfull kingdom yesterday today tomorrow is the kingdom of JESUS CHRIST ♥️
@jmjm19202 жыл бұрын
@@nesian_183 Manuka is a village in Tongatapu Island 🏝 from our History Kohai Koau mo Momo or Maui Tangaloa and Pulotu were the highest Titles Clan not God! Koau Eastern part of Tongatapu residents of Ha'a Maui the navigators Ha'amonga a Maui Stonehenge Maui Tonga Fusifonua the land creator name all Islands as VAIHI in Tonga the big land SAMERICA named after Savaihi in Ha'amoa and Havaihi in Hawaii big Island meaning the same Ha'a Tangaloa 'Atulongolongo 'Eitumatupu'a Tamapoulialamafoa Tufunga Tuli Kohai residents in Tapuhia Kolopelu and Folaha Pulotu to Western Fisi also Tu'ifalefa Papa'iFa Tu'ifolaha in Manuka from Tongatapu Pulemelei Siaheulupe was built by 23rd Tuitonga Momo Talafata 2 similar to Talietumu in Uvea built by Kau'ulufonua 1 Tuitonga Fanga'one'one Tapu'osi Lomiaetupua as Talakaifaiki 1 Puipuikifatu (Tu'iavi'i) Havea 1Havea 2 (Patonga) Talatama Talaiha'apepe Tele'a Kau'ulufonua 3 his youngest daughter Va'etoefanga mother of Salamasina Papa'iFa 4 Titles and Havea Malietoa beginning of Malietoa they lived and married in Ha'amoa 🙏
@increasepeace49962 жыл бұрын
@@jmjm1920 There is a village called Manuka in Tongatapu but the Manuka from Tongan legends refers to Manu'a. The fish hook story that Maui received was from Manu'a not Manuka. The fact you can't tell the difference is laughable 🤣
@niatipukaki62712 жыл бұрын
Manu-kau⚠️⚠️ is in New Zealand.. Auckland. 🌴... @MANU-KAU@MANU-KA@MANU-A 🐦🐦🐦🐦🌴🌴🌴🌴🌴
@theanomaly_10 ай бұрын
Samoans and their fairytales. "maybe if i keep writing it on KZbin, it might come true" 🤞🤣 tongans have ruled samoa for hundreds of years but samoa has NEVER ruled tonga. In fact, you guys have been colonised more than once. Facts. Your great Malietoa title comes from us. Kefe
@jeffhou41423 жыл бұрын
could we please have a real person to read.
@asipautameifuna214 ай бұрын
I think what Tongan and Samoan needs wright now is the name of JESUS 🙏 not the names of Tui or Tangaloa or whatever why wasting your time argued of things that will all soon perishable..pls stop the nonsense go do something useful..clean your backyard or talk about the name of JESUS that will help and every Tongan and Samoan said Amen 🙏♥️
@kakalutangitangi98692 жыл бұрын
Nice try Samoans but nope. There is no tui manua non sense
@increasepeace49962 жыл бұрын
This uploader isn't Samoan dummy 🤣
@keewaibk7947 Жыл бұрын
😂 they want and empire so bad it’s sad
@thefireman67387 ай бұрын
The samoans killed the tongan empire
@kakalutangitangi98697 ай бұрын
@thefireman6738 and Tonga still has a King and Samoan ruled by a head of state (no tuimanua nonsense) whose title (Malie toa) was given by a Tongan King. You funny guy
@thefireman67387 ай бұрын
@@kakalutangitangi9869 in samoa everyone is a king🤣🤣
@aisakeliu8461 Жыл бұрын
Yes Lapita tribe from South Africa
@TheWorldIsYourszz5 ай бұрын
Kingdom of flower's 😂
@GoneJoka8 ай бұрын
Sorry Tongans "Tui" is a Fijian title. You're just a provincial empire brass just like Samoa and their "Tui".
@skeptacleone2 жыл бұрын
straight from the horses mouth , admit tongans We are SAMOA....
@jmjm19202 жыл бұрын
Haha Oldest Tatau instrument found in the Ancient fortress village of Pea Tongatapu 2700 years old 700BC made of Human bones 😊
@ltmg98326 ай бұрын
Nope. I’m Tongan here. I don’t think Tongans came from Samoa and I don’t think Samoa was part of Tonga. I honestly think we were all one nation once upon a time. And just happen to be very similar with one another. You know how in school - there are 7 continents in the world? Coz that’s what the white man tells us right? Well how about that there was an 8th - look up the Island of Mū. It’s hard to find. Well that’s because it’s hard to find on purpose since it’s the closest to the truth. There were ancient texts from other nations to acclaim this. Trust me. Once you go down the rabbit hole - it all somewhat makes sense…
@AvaDevine-z6u3 ай бұрын
I'm a Tongan to be honest all of this is a lie don't worry about it don't go backward go forward the past was a dark time BAD things happen that time so let it go just be thankful and happy we are still alive today. Ofa atu to everyone ✌️