Tune your HiFi to perfection with these! Ricable Invictus, Dedalus & Magnus USB

[@KatarzynaJachimska]

Hello Lahlan. Best regards from Poland. I do fully agree with You. Doing great job. Sorry for those who does not hear the differences when changing cables, maybe time to visit doctor😊. All parts of the audio elements matters. It is very time consuming to find all matching, but once you do it you would understand, like You me, and many others. Thank You for another great video. Lets The Passion be with You...always. Merry Christmas to all ...

[@PassionforSound]

Merry Christmas to you too! I hope you have a wonderful holiday season.

[@jackn4853]

So, if l connect my printer with this type of cable I'll get more vivid, more contrasty, better saturated prints. Amazing.

[@ericshutter5305]

magic 😂

[@27b-6Buttle]

@@ericshutter5305 FM no static at all.

[@ptpoul]

I have made millions by doing random shitty drawings in ms paint, transferring them with a high end usb cable to my printer outputs exquisite art. Amazing

[@jackn4853]

@@ptpoul Chicken feed! I've made billions by doing the same but using a high end audio mains lead. This (cryogenically treated of course) lead completely nullifies the effect of the "dirty" AC from the lowest bid 100s of metres of cable coming to my house. It helps transform my wax crayon scribbles into Van Gogh alike masterpieces, all on A4 copy paper. Amazing.

[@mgsee]

This comment is not witty, it's just silly and ignorant. Anyone who actually listens to music can hear that cables do make a difference to the quality of sound produced by a hifi system. The issue is how much of a difference each cable makes, and how much you are prepared to pay for that difference.

[@dixieflatline1189]

"Cables make no difference to 1's and 0's, it's all snake oil". And yet... "I only use i2s to get the best audio quality" "A DDC between my PC and DAC transformed my audio experience" "The SPIDIF connection gets much better results than USB" Objectively, there is more going on than cable types. It's protocol type and implementation. Its jitter and bit rate alignment between devices. It's electrical interference in source and/or transmission that needs shielding. I deplore measurement absolutists. But what they can do is show something has been well engineered and designed. That it sounds any good in an integrated system is a different issue. Unsurprising, the biggest impact to your system is either your speakers & listening space or headphones. Cables are the key interface between system components, don't buy luxury cables , buy well designed and engineered ones that get the most of of your system without introducing new problems to solve

[@HerbertShooler]

Hi lachlan, cables is like doing Australian Rules Football on a minefield.....Science has proven time and time this issue is a non starter.......monster cable have so much to answer for.....

[@PassionforSound]

You might be surprised in a couple of days with some of the available science and what it tells us...

[@HerbertShooler]

@@PassionforSound show us the data please...i bet no change to SQ

[@jacobpaternostro9109]

Have you ever tried a USB reclocker? Wondering where $ is better spent: on a reclocker or on a better USB cable....

[@PassionforSound]

I use the Singxer SU-6 DDC which also reclocks and I'd recommend something like that ahead of cables because I think the impact is larger.

[@jacobpaternostro9109]

@@PassionforSound Thank you! I ordered a reclocker and a pair of Ricable Magnus USB cables. Want to give my LTA Aero an Xmas gift.

[@lupoal4113]

Fantastic! ... when a video about power supply cable?

[@PassionforSound]

I'd need to find the research papers on the topic, but if I do, I'll be sure to share them.

[@noturnleftunstoned72]

Great advice. It really does make a difference. I also got years of excellence with the XLO Ultra PLUS 2.0 USB Cable and the Supra Cables' Supra Excalibur, which have been by far my favorite "budget" USB cable. They flow info and protect like cables costing $500 and up. Check these Supra Excalibur silver edition. You will love them,truly. If not, you have 45 days to return. Happy Holidays people, enjoy Santa's gifts...it's uncanny how he knew the exact model I wanted! :)

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks for sharing your experiences! Happy holidays!!

[@jacobpaternostro9109]

I'm running the Ricable Magnus RCAs and they sound great. Currently using the Oyaide Elec D + Neo USB cable but might try the Ricable Magnus USB also.

[@PassionforSound]

I've got an Oyaide too - not sure if it's the same as yours, it's a flat one - and the Magnus is much better to my ears. Interesting that the RCAs are good too. Thanks for letting us know.

[@ggproductions7078]

cable arguments incoming. Annnnnnd GO!!!!!

[@PassionforSound]

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[@27b-6Buttle]

@@PassionforSound I have no idea why USB cables have come under marketing of audio.

[@PassionforSound]

Because they influence the performance of audio systems

[@27b-6Buttle]

@@PassionforSound How can they cause any differences on the other side of the DAC ?

[@rickbrookes9491]

@@PassionforSound love the fact that you stand your ground on the cable opinions.

[@EazyRed]

LMFAOOOOO BRUH NAW... PLACEBO IS GOING STRONG IN THIS VIDEO...

[@Sparta155]

An Australian complaining that the USB connector is upside-down. Oh the irony.

[@PassionforSound]

LOL 😂🇦🇺

[@jakobgooijer]

I'm using the Excalibur for some time now. I'm going to try the Magnus on your behalf. If its not the truth what you just said I buy a ticket Amsterdam Sidney to collect the money i spend on this Magnus . And, by the way : Nice video again 👍

[@PassionforSound]

Haha. I think you'll be safe to not make that trip, but do drop in and let me know what you think once you try it

[@JesusGonzalez-ky8im]

I appreciate your reviews of cables, and I suspect many people will find it hard to believe and understand their importance, but who cares my friend, you’re doing us all a service. 👌🏼🤘🏻

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks for letting me know they're valuable to some people. I've got a video coming up next explaining at least some of why they make a difference.

[@27b-6Buttle]

Maybe some day audio bruhs will make medical devices.

[@carlitomelon4610]

Oh goody. We can now stop listening to beautiful music again and turn on each other for another audio scrap. I'm sticking a finger in each ear and walking to the music room saying "La La La La-di-DAAAA!" Tomorrow I'll go back to installing wireless and fiber Internet service for the unwashed thousands who are blissfully unaware of these issues. (In 15 years I've never had an audiophile stand over me to critique my cat 5 cable termination skills, Or inquire about the quality of the PoE or ONT or router PSU.... yet) 😅

[@banginghats2]

I've been using the QED Reference High Resolution USB cable for a few years now. It's their top usb cable and I don't feel the need to change it. You can get it for £75 in UK.

[@PassionforSound]

Nice price. I haven't tried that one, but would love to find better and cheaper options to recommend.

[@joshuakarp2586]

Does the Invictus come USB-C to USB-B?

[@PassionforSound]

I didn't see that on their site, but maybe double check to be certain. There are still very few audiophile cables available with USB-C.

[@BrandonBuckaudioanarchy]

Resistance, capacitance and inductance are the three components of impedance. And impedance is an AC property. Digital signal transmission is not an AC function, it's a DC function. And parity checks are there to ensure that if any data is corrupted, it gets caught and corrected before it's converted to AC so it can be broadcast to the speaker(s). All those very basic fundamentals understood, one can easily see why cables have no ability to have an effect on digital signal transmission. Assuming the conductors are large enough to carry the current, which is seriously tiny. But hey, psychoacoustics is definitely real....

[@PassionforSound]

If noise weren't a factor in sound quality and system performance, everything you just said would be true. (Except the part about error correction as that doesn't happen in USB audio transfers)

[@PassionforSound]

If noise weren't a factor in sound quality and system performance, everything you just said would be true. (Except the part about error correction as that doesn't happen in USB audio transfers)

[@27b-6Buttle]

@@PassionforSound Show me a specification that shows how USB audio uses the standard any differently than other data transfers.

[@PassionforSound]

@27b-6Buttle just do a Google search for yourself. I'm not here to convince anyone if anything.

[@27b-6Buttle]

@@PassionforSound You just stated that audio over USB functions differently than everything else over USB. Shouldn't there be anything behind that ?

[@johncallaghan3097]

If you need a longish length USB cable (up to 15m), I'd say go for the basic Supra cable. For a 4m run I paid £60 in Apr '23. The length I required was the main reason I bought it -- can't say I've heard much difference in USB cables, just wanted to be sure distance wasn't going to be a problem. I leave it to my DDC, DAC and external clock to ensure things sound optimal.

[@PassionforSound]

According to their marketing, the Ricables are also very good for long runs, but I haven't tested anything over 1m from them.

[@domenicsto5]

Now I can't decide between the AA Audio SG USB and the Ricable Invictus😫 Does anyone have a brief summary on how they might compare against each other?

[@PassionforSound]

I compared them directly here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoG2mH-oYsaXh6ssi=wZraCk4Kb6RjmOXw I hope that helps!

[@domenicsto5]

@@PassionforSound yes it did, thank you!

[@firestyle213]

Did you had a chance to listen to the raal 1995 immanis? also do you think about reviewing it?

[@PassionforSound]

I'd love to review it, but currently have no easy access to Raal products for review.

[@waves6952]

Bruh

[@trevr10]

I feel left out of the cable argument clique as I've just been listening to a CD of Enrico Caruso's first recordings starting with the AICC And Pathe Discs and Cylinders, Recorded between 1900 and 1901. Wet string would probably reproduce these recordings as good as the most expensive cables 😁 I guess my point being that it's no good dropping a second mortgage on equipment if what you listen to comes from sources that sound just as good on budget equipment. I do listen to modern recordings but then I hit old age hearing issues, I tried my friends £1600 Hifiman HE1000SE and couldn't really tell any difference between them and my Edition XS ones with historic recordings. I've listened to some modern demo music designed to show off headphones, and I'd rather listen to most of it through wet string 😬 Have a great Christmas and I hope Santa brings you all the Vegimite flavoured ice cream you can eat. 😂

[@PassionforSound]

Very good point, Trevor! Merry Christmas, but I'll pass on the Vegemite icecream. 😂😂🎄🎄

[@Thevikingcam]

There is super easy way to know IF the USB cable actually does anything to the sound. Take super uber highress audio file. Send it to external drive or memory card with different cables. Now take the files back with the same cables to the computer. Open sound editing software and compare the files. IF they are 100% same then what does it mean? You guessed it. If the files are not the same you got cable that actually remaster the sound by it self to better. Now that is some harry potter magic and you have now made history by proving unicorn and witches to be real :D

[@therumbler]

Unfortunately this isn’t enough to test the cable. From what I understand copying a file using usb is a different process to isochronous real-time USB audio. A file copy does checks to ensure the file was copying perfectly. These checks are impossible with real-time USB audio

[@Thevikingcam]

@@therumbler The USB audio 1.0 had problems BUT USB audio 2.0 has speed of a 480 MB/s. Packets are 100% secure and clocking is done in a DAC so no jitter problems either. In home with 1 - 2 meter USB 2.0 cable pulls your data is 100% secure. 100%

[@PassionforSound]

You're overlooking the influence of noise transmitted (and filtered) by the cable. No one is suggesting that the data is altered or damaged by any USB cable.

[@Thevikingcam]

@@PassionforSound if you got hisses or noises you got faulty system anyway and spending hundreds on a bandage like new USB cable isnt the right way to go.

[@PassionforSound]

It's not that kind of noise. System noise doesn't have to be obviously audible to make a difference to our perception of the system's sound

[@fredericktennant9151]

A great video but not for me as my digital source (Mac Mini) is over 10 feet away from my DAC I did not even look into such lengths lol.

[@PassionforSound]

Yep. I wouldn't do USB over that distance either.

[@STEELFOX2000]

Mo0st cables sound like snake oil to me 🤪

[@JMJM75257]

Cables have one job. To pass the signal as loslessly as possible. Any cable that knocks out some highs or lows for example is simply not passing the full signal. I can see dielectrics making a difference so go for something polyethylene of teflon with a multistrand copper core, shorter the better and non magnetic connectors. Then call it a day. You money is better spent on better gear id say. Its not what w cable gives you rather what it takes away. And dont believe bs about ofc or occ copper etc, the dielectric is way more important.

[@PassionforSound]

With digital cables, they're not altering the data/signal passing to the DAC so much as the noise accompanying it (as far as I understand it).

[@27b-6Buttle]

There exists NO AUDIO in USB cables.

[@PassionforSound]

No, just fluctuating voltages and noise...

[@27b-6Buttle]

@@PassionforSound How can that "noise" get to the other side of the DAC ??

[@PassionforSound]

As I understand it, the noise can originate from the source device (e.g. computer) and/or can be picked up from the environment. From there it can enter the downstream DAC and mess with the timing accuracy and/or the output stage of the DAC. It will depend partly on the design of the DAC exactly where and how noise might travel. There also might be more to it still that I don't understand. I've got a video coming up next describing why it matters so much though.

[@27b-6Buttle]

@@PassionforSound How can any USB cable make or break noise pollution that is outside the design and responsibility of the DAC ?

[@PassionforSound]

Because every wire and every component is a filter as well due to how it can influence the flow of energy. On top of that there is the shielding from outside noise and the shielding internally to isolate the signal and the power wires within the cable.

[@tothemax324]

Lookout Lachlan cable Karens incoming 👀

[@PassionforSound]

Yep. They've been busy already. Did you know that what I've heard with these cables is impossible?? Yep, impossible! 😉😉

[@tothemax324]

@@PassionforSound I use to be skeptical but thats science in and of itself

[@PassionforSound]

@tothemax324 very true

[@MrKeech666]

For the price, I’d rather invest in a DDC… which I did.

[@PassionforSound]

That's fair enough. It's a good investment.

[@curiousobserver4096]

Bought the Ricable Invictus from the australian website few months ago, quite a significant difference in sound it made in my system, was previously using an audioquest USB cable.

[@ericshutter5305]

NOT POSSIBLE as a digital bitperfect stream is always EXACTLY THE SAME DATA ... only very bad cables can degrade the digital data.

[@PassionforSound]

I'm glad you're enjoying the Invictus. It's an excellent cable regardless of what some might say. 😉 There is a lot more to USB transmission than just data integrity because they all maintain that.

[@curiousobserver4096]

@@ericshutter5305 I was a sceptic too not so long ago, until i tried out of curiosity hoping to prove USB cable shouldnt make a difference. To my surprise during my tests, compared to a regular old printer cable, using the audioquest USB cable did sound subjectively better. I wouldnt say the differences with cables will always be good, sometimes it is just different, depends on your system synergy and taste. Expensive is not always better either.

[@PassionforSound]

I completely agree. I actually didn't much like the top of the range AudioQuest and I prefer the cheapest Ricable to the more expensive middle option.

[@Capitan_Cavernicola_1]

snake oil! It is already quite difficult to tell the difference between electronics and speakers above 1000 USD. There are plenty of blind test and measurement available validating that.cables either work or not period.

[@Pete.across.the.street]

Where are these tests you speak of?

[@Capitan_Cavernicola_1]

@ all over the internet. Look in youtube too

[@ericshutter5305]

you CAN NOT use (USB) cables to change the sound of your system ...its physically impossible ... coming from an engineer so not some opinion but hard facts.

[@mgsee]

@@ericshutter5305 Engineers don’t push the boundaries of understanding. Your role is primarily to work within the bounds of what is already known.

[@Prxyshj]

Cables make zero difference with digital signals. There isn’t any difference in “clarity” or “depth”. There isn’t any difference period.

[@ChrisMalkowski]

I disagree.

[@audiorick841]

Of course it would not be a cable discussion if a flat earther didn’t chime in 😅. You don’t have to watch those videos, buddy.

[@beefsupreme510]

Why do you insist on torturing yourself then w these videos?

[@PassionforSound]

Stay tuned folks. Two days to go until I can explain exactly why cables matter. 🙂

[@dwferox]

​@audiorick841 I think you're misunderstanding which side of this debate is the "flat earth" side.

[@Alamo-cz5xc]

Reeeee!!

[@AmericanAudiophile]

For those of you who say cables don’t make a difference… you might want to get another hobby. Because if you can’t hear the difference, you’re definitely not getting your moneys worth .

[@wric01]

Crap usb. I2s blows them away regardless of what hdmi cable you use.

[@PassionforSound]

Except when the DAC or source doesn't offer I2S - then it's pretty useless. I2S is still a far less common connection for people to have at both ends of their transport/DAC connection.

[@KeithWong1972]

I don't know why I subscribed to this channel. Unsubscribed.

[@gtye0h]

You don’t know impedance yet you talk so much

[@andrewmcinnes424]

Absolute nonsense

[@beefsupreme510]

Yet you clicked & watched the video

[@BloOdYJo17]

At this point it's just for clout

[@PassionforSound]

What do you mean?