Turbo Smoking / Electric Scavenge Pump / Turbo Oil Drain

[@aphil4581]

Why do I keep seeing Randys car smoking like hell and you with a big smile on your face. Just kidding!😁

[@ckfpv]

Hey John 💪💪💪💯💯💯💪💪💪💪keep up the great job man great content too

[@the4flatgarage]

I don't think people realize the potential of this car. It's been in the 4:20s @ 178 MPH! And personally, I can't wait until it wins an event. Randy is such a nice guy, and is the epitome of a patient individual, all the while being such a good friend to TJ and the gang over there at B&K. Success couldn't happen to a better guy, and to see his face, like it looked when he disclosed the 178 mph pass, will warm all of our hearts out here again. Time to throw down. That's one quick FOMOCO.

[@RustyWells2]

Oh I do 3s car for sure!

[@RustyWells2]

Oh the 200 pass is coming soon!

[@jasonhastings5538]

Bet Randy is about to sell that thing fighting that oil issue!!!!😂😂😂

[@theariesexperiment4642]

There is something insane sounding about that Stang. It is my favorite sounding street car on YT. Its so crisp and angry sounding. I want my hot rod to sound just like it.

[@RustyWells2]

It sound a lot like John's car.

[@theariesexperiment4642]

@@RustyWells2 Sounds absolutely nothing like John's. John's sounds like a junkyard LS with a big cam and a crappy muffler. His sounds like $100,000 Pat Musi 632ci fire breathing monster. Now,.....before you let that salt flow,.....just remember it MY OPINION. You say otherwise,....and that's fine. But to my ears??? No comparison whatsoever. So,.....I'm sure your about react in an offended manner. Let'er RIP tater chip. Let's git it. I'm due a good dust up on here.

[@Zone6G]

@@theariesexperiment4642 I don't think they sound entirely different. John's is a small block Chevrolet with good (old, sometimes second-hand, often repaired) parts, and Randy's is a small block Ford with pretty exotic state of the art brand new parts. Randy's does sound better, but they aren't a world apart. It's the high timing that makes them so snappy.

[@PaulRhodes420]

Man that thing sounds mean!! Your other one is doing good too! I've noticed it goes straight down the track! No fishy taily!

[@twinturbocoyoteftw]

I used a holley fuel pump 20 yrs ago on my first turbo build to pump the return oil back to the sump.

[@twinturbocoyoteftw]

If that isn't some turbo john stuff I don't know what would be!!

[@DonCatherman]

Well let's all cross our fingers ,,, Y'all should call the car inspector gadget....it has a lot of gadgets on it to keep it from smoking.... Y'all been fighting that oiling problem for a while.....🤞,,,,hope ya got it this time...👍👍😎,,,,,,,,,

[@lawrencemarkham765]

Nice looking car,

[@davidmcnerney3048]

I just drool whenever you have Randys car on the channel.

[@tomhamilton9140]

Could have never imagined mounting the turbo low would create such problems. Hope others will learn from this. Good luck guys get this awesome ride into the winners circle.

[@billmopar6461]

Gravity and pressure ain't to hard to grasp eh canada?

[@jessgilliam1698]

Theres alot of cars that have them that low. Almost all are radial cars you want that weight out front and low

[@MrRandy3504]

Im glad thats fixed now lets see some number making

[@dm9103]

You need to vent the line between the pump and the turbo. Your pump is constantly sucking vacuum past turbo seals now. Also a low pressure crack valve in the feed line so that once the car is shut off the remaining oil in the feed line doesn't get past the turbo

[@gregoryb7485]

Can you hear it ? 420s are calling your name randy!! Great vid as always John.

[@charleybetts1053]

Randy's car is siiiick

[@ballindirty]

Glad to see you all got it figured out😁

[@rangervapes571]

May want to try adding a small oil reservoir between the turbo and the pump. Turbo gravity feeds oil into the reservoir and the pump scavenges it from the reservoir.

[@bubbakushingtonIII]

I like that new intro song. Randy has had a time with that oil in the turbo.

[@robertdouglas3456]

It is running very clean now! Win win! 💥🇺🇸💥🇺🇸

[@MartinMcMartin]

Man, I think modifying the hot and cold side to lift the turbo 6" would have been a lot less stressful.

[@danmyers9372]

Kinda seems that way but when stuff like this happens it’s typical to think that a simple solution will fix it. Before you know it you are 5 “simple” fixes down the road.

[@stephencarter1442]

Yeah Showmod is fixed. My old man had the same problem on our sand drag jeep. Had to do the same thing and add an accumulator too. Boda I think it was. Ancient history. Good job guys can't wait for some solid passes and going rounds. Showmod to the front!.Thank you for sharing.

[@mun33y]

You need an oil sump straight off the turbo, then scavenge pump from the sump back to the engine

[@robertbray5735]

Good job

[@stephenmitchell3569]

You race better with a bad paint job! Ha ha it will all work out after a few more scratches!!!😀🇺🇸Alway great sportsmanship and video! Thank You for Sharing some of the best videos all time! Your good man!

[@tylerschmitt1921]

That car sounds awesome. I’m sure it sounds a lot better In person

[@docsmallblock6584]

I'd no prep it! That's where the money is! He should take it up to Ohio this weekend and get into the small tire deal at the NPK race! He'd stand a good chance of winning that deal with that piece!

[@garethmcgregor1621]

Hi TJ Al from KZbin channel The Skid Factory over here in Australia had a video about low mount turbo kits he does on Subaru BRZ's, he uses a pump very similar to that but also fabricates a 'sump' that fits under the turbo on the oil drain outlet. He said it took a bit of sorting out but it works well on a very low mounted turbo. Might be worth a look.

[@jcnpresser]

Man that sbf sounds wicked!

[@th600mike3]

Also the check valve has helped my cars on the drainback. But I always put it as close to the turbo drain as possible, rather than after the pump. Just to hopefully leave less volume the check valve can't stop

[@prettyboyfloyd3397]

Welding NOT done by Turbo John 😂😂😂

[@alanalvarez3032]

Isn’t the oil supposed to drain into a catch can and then have the pump suck it out of that? Asking because im heading in that direction and was told that I need to do that.

[@jimandskittum]

Here's my two cents. That is a terrible place to put a million dollar turbo. I'm looking at what appears to be a big void right ahead of the front motor plate that would put it out of harm's way if you had a slight front end tap, solve your drain issues, move weight back and shorten your charge pipe. Of course there are probably factors that played in to your decision that I don't know about. Have you considered a catch tank and a float if you are going to pump it back to the engine? And since I am critiquing, do you need a mile high intake and long runners on a charged induction setup?

[@RustyWells2]

I can tell you have never run a 118mm before!

[@jimandskittum]

@@RustyWells2 I have not. What does the size of the turbo have to do with it?

[@WalksInThunder]

Good job guys 🤣

[@th600mike3]

I had this problem on my last car... My car uses a scavenge too. Haven't tried the earls pump. From more than 10 years ago, I have used turbo werx exa pump on mine. Seems to be the best quality and durability of the electrics I have tried. The low turbo drain thing is always annoying. If it smokes on start up just need to run the pump harder after shut off (more voltage).

[@bryanmichalski175]

You seem to like your TurboWerx pump? Researching I keep finding mixed feelings and not sure if people are hating on pumps they don’t even use. Really hard to choose a pump.

[@paullutherborrow637]

Looks like you’ve got a dry sump pump on there ? Why couldn’t you run a pipe to evacuate the turbo drain ?

[@TurboJohnRacing]

We tried, turbo is so low that when car is off all the oil in the scavenge lines drained to turbo flooding it.

[@billclark5943]

I don't know guys. I'd probably put the check valve right at the turbo and use the heaviest spring possible that it can suck open. So what if the pump is a little less efficient doing it that way. Everything in the pump and in the line is going to run right back into the turbo

[@robcameron5521]

Turbo needs a wee sump to collect the oil .

[@kennyscott5636]

We’re is your car tired of Randy’s car

[@frank3stangs]

Nice!!

[@danielsmith-ze3wy]

💪💪💪💪💪💪

[@justinp2993]

That is quite the Rube Goldberg system. About two weeks from now, we'll see how the heat affects that pump. Kind of wonder if that was the best spot for the turbo?

[@RustyWells2]

There's not many places to mount a 118mm

[@jessgilliam1698]

Its a racecar it only runs for 4 seconds heat isnt gonna effect it. Most are mounted rightthere close to turbo

[@jessgilliam1698]

@@RustyWells2 its a racecar it only runs for enough for burnout and a pass.

[@rhansen435]

Are there opposing seals in the housing.Possibly one is in backwards.

[@TurboJohnRacing]

It didn’t smoke last year

[@jessgilliam1698]

Turbos dont actually have rubber seals. From what ive seen they are just a bronze plate that has a hole that is very tight tolerance to the turbo shaft and when the oil is flowing properly it wont leak by.

[@rhansen435]

@@jessgilliam1698 Ok I wasn’t sure….just a thought.

[@thesquirrelchroniclesakare7808]

Hell yeah

[@garywoodward847]

Man please tell me what motor is in that car. I know you say SBF buuuuuut I looks suspiciosly BBC.

[@racinRichie70]

With the single exhaust will that not throw off the handling ?

[@johnmattos3105]

Hey John what's the CI of Randy's engine?

[@TurboJohnRacing]

427

[@johnmattos3105]

@@TurboJohnRacing Thanks John it's a dam nice piece 👍

[@jasonhastings5538]

Could the oil psi the motor has be to much for the turbo?

[@RustyWells2]

lmfao!

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Maybe, it has about 80-100 psi. -6 line, that is a lot of oil. We also made a restrictor to -4 size.

[@jasonhastings5538]

@@TurboJohnRacing right on! Ive never messed with turbos before! Didnt know if it could push oil past the seals! I seen LS Nasty flood one of theirs also!

[@jessgilliam1698]

Is randys exhaust 4 inch, 4.5 or 5 inch i cant tell in the video. Ive ran all 3 i currently have 4.5 on mine and i had 5 inch on my old racecar all on a GT55 turbo.

[@huntley513]

Im sorry,i know its easy to have an opinion but i have a question, if the turbo takes a crap and the bearings fail,will that dump crap in your engine right on top of the cam and cause huge issues or no

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Yes!

[@TurboJohnRacing]

But if we dump it into the tank, it will go right to the oil pump.

[@billwilliams4394]

So did y'all remove the ball valve? I would so the oil doesn't get left turned off or safety wire it open

[@TurboJohnRacing]

No, we still have to have it dig the oil from the dry sump tank doesn’t empty to the oil pan

[@SpeedProductions]

Do y’all have a check valve on the feed side?

[@TurboJohnRacing]

We have a dry break

[@SpeedProductions]

@@TurboJohnRacing we had a weird issue with our dry sump where oil would drain down the feed into turbo when we cut it off. We have a 3lb check valve in-line and haven’t had any oil issues since. I can’t remember where we got the valve from but it worked great.

[@justin_parks]

Should have tested the 2 step atleast once. SMH lol

[@TurboJohnRacing]

😂

[@lawrencemarkham765]

Burning out ex, oil,take a wild,???l RM

[@mitchellsr42gmail]

I do think that it might have fixed the problem. so keep on working on the car. and I think that car will be very fast here soon.