Turbo + Supercharger = ROCKETSHIP (Until It's Not)

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The Rad Factory

The Rad Factory

Күн бұрын

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@AJRestoration
@AJRestoration 5 ай бұрын
Remember, build, THEN tune, then test drive. Not build, test drive, break it, fix it, tune it.
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 we did do a basic tune and several warm up start up tunes and that test drive was supposed to be a chill start to the tuning so we had data under load…. Unfortunately Dylan only has one setting 😂 WOT.
@thatjdmkid8170
@thatjdmkid8170 5 ай бұрын
You need an AFR gauge for any turbo build especially befor doing any pulls before a decent tune I wonder if it went lean and melted a piston or ring
@tim0e
@tim0e 5 ай бұрын
​@@thatjdmkid8170 💯
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 5 ай бұрын
​@thatjdmkid8170 probaly the opsite with the new injectors I've seen this before when the injectors are to large for a stokeometric rate at idle or low rpms. But your analysis might be correct as well. Sounds like wot due to turbo and supercharger being to close.
@TheMarcQ
@TheMarcQ 5 ай бұрын
You have to be especially stupid to hit wot on an untuned boosted engine
@anthonymichael5447
@anthonymichael5447 5 ай бұрын
If yall could actually get good tuning before doing full throttle pulls I can promise you they won’t blow up your just asking for it to blow
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Agreed! Hoping to find a tuner near us that isnt 1000$ a session.
@CountDrankula0o0
@CountDrankula0o0 5 ай бұрын
How is tuning going to stop the cheap blower from grenading?
@CountDrankula0o0
@CountDrankula0o0 5 ай бұрын
Perhaps I should have watched the whole video first
@zoomie9734
@zoomie9734 5 ай бұрын
@@CountDrankula0o0yea cause it’s no longer cheap it’s an oem toyota one now
@viffer5
@viffer5 5 ай бұрын
​@@CountDrankula0o0no compression probably means good chance it ran lean and melted a piston. A tune would have helped prevent a lean condition. I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes. Hopefully the rad lads can scrape together enough funds from merch sales to get it going.
@scottgoodwins
@scottgoodwins 5 ай бұрын
Engine management and tune are important when you’re making boost. Awesome video
@aarongrattafiori617
@aarongrattafiori617 5 ай бұрын
Yeah at least a hacky boost reference fuel pressure or something would probably help self destruction. Long term? Still probably kaboom...
@Lil_Pac-MackYT1
@Lil_Pac-MackYT1 5 ай бұрын
Y’all have to be some of the most UNDERRATED car content creators on this platform- every issue always comes with a fix. I can’t wait to see y’all get this thing back to running condition! Love y’all, keep it up!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@stevehankins513
@stevehankins513 5 ай бұрын
You guys are great. Love that its just a couple of buddies trying ro get massive power on a budget & not kill it (again)
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
It’s what life is all about!
@jstein6890
@jstein6890 5 ай бұрын
Love seeing you guys quickly gather followers. These vids are hilarious and you guys don't have that obnoxious air of superiority around you like some others do. Keep on being goofballs, understanding you don't know everything, and having a great time learning. It's so entertaining.
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Awesome shoutout! You guys rock stay Rad and awesome 👍
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Same goes to you!! Thank you so much for the Merch!
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 5 ай бұрын
​@RadFactoryGav 👍 ill be grabbing some merch from your store for sure stay Rad
@1slwtac
@1slwtac Ай бұрын
Bout an hour ago I just started this saga and now I'm invested
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 4 ай бұрын
I wish my friends had emergencys like that. 😂
@Revolt2bfree
@Revolt2bfree 5 ай бұрын
It's actually unreal what you guys can do by yourselves in a garage. Gav gotta be world champ at tetris after this. This was so much fun. I straight up felt excited once it turned on, can't imagine what you guys felt
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
It was so epic…. Till it wasn’t lol
@lifeclipsofe-rock1287
@lifeclipsofe-rock1287 5 ай бұрын
Yooooo, the wire crimper hack for your tubing 🤯 bravo sir, bravo 💪!!!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
It legit works! lol
@OmgWtfTsuji
@OmgWtfTsuji 5 ай бұрын
Just discovered you guys a little while ago and I love that you're having fun and not just destroying shit for views like a lot of other channels now days.
@Weretarantula5
@Weretarantula5 5 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the next chapter of it!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Same! lol hopefully we can get it to run proper
@jonnycarrick7552
@jonnycarrick7552 5 ай бұрын
I so wanted the car to be amazing 😢 love seeing you guys
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
It will be once be get it running again!
@kylevarble2325
@kylevarble2325 5 ай бұрын
Still nonetheless great job and amazing determination don't give up you got an incredible toy coming together
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! We will get it working!
@jackkrupka3024
@jackkrupka3024 5 ай бұрын
Exhaust under the car is definitely the way to go but hood dump works lol
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@probablysomeonesomewhere
@probablysomeonesomewhere 5 ай бұрын
tuning and ring gap is importiant, when it cuts like that under load its normally from not enough fuel, not enough fuel = lean burn, lean burn = heat, heat = pinched ring, pinched ring = kaboom
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
We shall see! We are pulling the head this week and doing an autopsy
@tim0e
@tim0e 5 ай бұрын
I have to admit, I found exactly that the hard way myself 👍
@throttlebuddies6356
@throttlebuddies6356 5 ай бұрын
Those pistons seemed to get VERY hot you can tell by the white spots. if you want to convert to speeduino, i would offer myself to help, i also have an extensive guide on DIY tuning the ECU on my channel that covers everything you need to know!
@The.Rad.Factory
@The.Rad.Factory 5 ай бұрын
we are running speeduino! I'll check out your channel!
@DougBugBuilder
@DougBugBuilder 5 ай бұрын
Boy that was an emotional rollercoaster! 😁Even though it didn't go as planned, great video, lots of labor in that one, but fun video to watch. You both are so entertaining to watch. I think it's time you collab with DBB and do a video on the "big" jump at RAM. 😉
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
I would love to!! Thanks Mike let’s for sure do a collaboration soon! (Jackson Supercharger might be going on the green car very soon)
@joshualopez2105
@joshualopez2105 5 ай бұрын
Yo! I just found this channel this guys deserves way more recognition!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the support!
@joshualopez2105
@joshualopez2105 5 ай бұрын
@@RadFactoryGav keep rocking guys! I'm also trying to grow my channel 🤟🏽
@eirenmann
@eirenmann 5 ай бұрын
i remember you showed you had a turbo, never thought this is how youd add it, awesome
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Honestly it fits better than I expected
@boostedproblems5139
@boostedproblems5139 5 ай бұрын
You would have better results if the turbo was before the supercharger. With twin charging you always want the larger unit first, that way it can flow all the air needed, provide some boost, and then the smaller unit further compress the charge. Basically if you are not force feeding the small supercharger (good for 150hp) it can’t flow the 350hp the turbo is capable of
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
The goal is to build a second I take for the turbo to pull from once at revs. Just blew it up before we got to start lol
@boostedproblems5139
@boostedproblems5139 5 ай бұрын
The typical way to plumb a compound twincharged system is: Air filter/maf/bov/turbo/throttle body/supercharger/bpv/intercooler/manifold You can even go as far as to use the supercharger bypass valve to shut off the supercharger and let the turbo take over for increased power to the wheels. I did this by using an aux channel on my boost controller that opens a solenoid that supplies vacuum to the bpv actuator, works good for valet mode too because the turbo spools very slowly without the superchargers assistance.
@alanwhitehurst2576
@alanwhitehurst2576 5 ай бұрын
Keep going guy's you've got this. Do anything to keep going mug some old lady's 😮only joking you guy's are cool and this channel could blow up ✌🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@208Concepts
@208Concepts 5 ай бұрын
That belt is gonna slap that pipe 🤣 Also, it's referred to as a hater pipe 🤣
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
The belt is looser than I would like after seeing the footage
@208Concepts
@208Concepts 5 ай бұрын
@@RadFactoryGav unfortunately, even tight belts move a bit. 1/8 inch is nothing, as you know 🤣
@sethgibowski8695
@sethgibowski8695 5 ай бұрын
This is awesome. Sucks that it blew but it definitely needs to be tuned. Not sure what you guys are running for engine managment if anything at all, but you should really consider a microsquirt ecu. They're on the budget end of Standalones but are still very capable. Also, has an engine swap ever been considered for this build? A 2.0/2.3/2.5 Duratec/MZR swap would be a great budget option. The 2.5 unopened is good for 350-400hp and they can be had for fairly cheap. For a trans a good option for that miata would be the 2004-2015 miata NC 6 speed, they came with a 2.0 duratec. Awesome content, keep it up!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Definitely on a standalone, I forget which one.
@GAGEDADY
@GAGEDADY 5 ай бұрын
You guys make really good content I am excited to watch your ideas and channel grow! Not into Miata’s but hp and engineering is universal.
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Amen to that!! Hopefully we will have another really crazy (non Miata) build coming soon.
@tedbear631
@tedbear631 4 ай бұрын
Love the Death Metal Miata build I had to get a shirt after seeing how fucking bummed you guys were after working on this car and I feel the pain!! I've seen too many project cars blow on this website and I desperately want this car to make it longer than 1 day of driving in the current form. Looks Rad and sounds rad and I hope getting a sweet shirt from you guys makes you feel a bit better :D Stay Rad \m/
@lynel1985
@lynel1985 5 ай бұрын
Im building a twincharged lancer. Im pretty certain the turbo chould be feedibg the supercharge not the way you guys have it. Roots style blowers multiply a fixed amount of air pet rotor per rotation; it will be a restriction for the turbocharger when trying to "pull" more air than the fixed amouny of air supplied by the supercharger.
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
The next step for us was to build a second intake for the turbo to pull more air from at high rpm. Based on a very cool build some guy did with a Saturn sky.
@claudedottin1312
@claudedottin1312 5 ай бұрын
Yes I’m this
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 5 ай бұрын
@@claudedottin1312”I’m this” What???
@claudedottin1312
@claudedottin1312 5 ай бұрын
@@fastinradfordable 😂 hol up lemme cook
@jacobslay2527
@jacobslay2527 2 ай бұрын
@lynel1985 Depends on what the goal is for boost, whether you want stable or compounded. You are right, the blower will displace a fixed amount of air per rotation, and will eventually act as a restriction, however there are 2 positive effects you are ignoring: 1.) It allows for stable boost psi from idle to max rpm, allowing for much more consistent and predictable ride. 2.) As the turbo spools up, it will create a vacuum IN FRONT of the blower. Reducing the load, and power, the blower is using to compress the air, which increases efficiency and results in a net power gain. What you are suggesting is compounded boost. This could allow the engine to go to 15+ pounds of boost. Some systems can even achieve 20+. The problem is that the engine will not survive that. The rad factory guy said in the video that they don't have to worry as long as its between 250-300 hp. Likely going above that will result in overheating, warping, or atworst piston failure and throwing a rod. Edit: That type of system is also prone to surging from what I have gleamed from other videos or articles that cover this. A turbo into supercharger a lot worse for sudden spikes in boost resulting in inconsistent or unpredictable power changes. Again, the turbo into super will undoubtably create more power. There are just too many other factors at play here that make it the wrong decision for this engine and intended use. (Especially if they want a drift car, where predictability is really important)
@Lagithasubie
@Lagithasubie 5 ай бұрын
You guys are awesome very underrated Chanel I’m currently doing a fb market place wrx build restoring the entire car trying to his 400hp with 10k you guys got this
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
That will be super rad!!
@tss200
@tss200 5 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your video’s. I am not the type to ever comment on videos but felt I might add in some thoughts to consider as I have done a setup like this in the past and had to learn the hard way with damaged turbos. To find out that turbos generally don’t like to have a lot of vacuum on the intake side causing The bearings to fail. Sure before the turbo spoils it will have positive pressure on the inducer but once it starts to flow more than what the supercharger can flow it will be well within a negative pressure.Again I enjoy your videos and offering maybe some food for thought.
@The.Rad.Factory
@The.Rad.Factory 5 ай бұрын
Definitely good to know. We do plan to add some type of valve in between the super and turbo that opens up around 5k. We were just hoping to get it to run for a bit first. Appreciate the thoughts 🤘🏽
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Just grabbed some merch 🤘 stay Rad
@The.Rad.Factory
@The.Rad.Factory 5 ай бұрын
you're a legend!
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 5 ай бұрын
​@@The.Rad.Factorythanks so much for the merch. I love the designs totaly awesome 👌
@arubberroomwithrats
@arubberroomwithrats 5 ай бұрын
i couldn't even edge, i exploded immediately 😅 twincharging a miata was just too much 🥰
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
😂
@jokerzwild00
@jokerzwild00 5 ай бұрын
Ew
@arubberroomwithrats
@arubberroomwithrats 5 ай бұрын
@@jokerzwild00 womp to the fuckin' womp
@Rykiee
@Rykiee 5 ай бұрын
What?
@arubberroomwithrats
@arubberroomwithrats 5 ай бұрын
@@Rykiee you heard me.
@RedRocketRenching
@RedRocketRenching 5 ай бұрын
Looks like itll be a sweet build when you can do it! Totally understand the funds issue Keep after it, this thing is awesome!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! We are excited to get it running right now
@beatbox_one_and_two4462
@beatbox_one_and_two4462 5 ай бұрын
Dude in the hat has a simmilar voice as the mehanic voice in dirt 3
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Maybe they are one in the same 🙃
@michaelhernandez2106
@michaelhernandez2106 5 ай бұрын
Come on man somebody out there needs a sponsor you guys this look like it was going to be a rocket ship Don't give up hope take your time hopefully somebody watching this out there can help out and chip in give you guys a little help I truly hope to see it running again you guys are awesome
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!! Hopefully we can find a tuner near us that knows what they are doing before we rebuild it again haha
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree 👍
@johnnoe9682
@johnnoe9682 5 ай бұрын
I agree on the tuning ::shrug:: Sick, sick build guyz. Tks. And if Innovators all got it working perfect on the first go, we'd all be doing a lot more of it.
@mohamadnoormdyusuf9483
@mohamadnoormdyusuf9483 5 ай бұрын
I think you need to make the gab ring bigger, when the boost is high, the engine will be hotter, if the gab ring is too close, the piston will break easily, because the piston ring has expanded and meets end to end of the ring
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
The rings were gapped for boost idk if that was the issue.
@TheColorsInGreyLife
@TheColorsInGreyLife 5 ай бұрын
Love it! It sounds lean at the top end with possibly the valve timing being off? I dunno, it's a start of the engine with twin charging, tuning is always needed. I like what other commentors said about the o2, idle would be helped with tuning at speed because possible backflow will get worse at higher speeds thanks to wind speeds. A cover or a exhaust pipe heading down will help that. I have to go with gavin on that lol. With 0 compression it could be a head gasket failure, which can happen thanks to high heat and boost. Which could mean too lean but also the boost air wasn't cooled enough as well. Maybe some water injection? Or water methanol? Helps with lean out, but also you have another pump and some other injectors! Anyways, he was saying it was a hot day so it's why I'm "leaning" that way lol. If it turns out it's not any of that, it could be a combo of things. Spark plugs loose, compression rings went, hydrolock from too much fuel from o2 sensor thinking it lean. Like others said. Or valves becoming stuck as well. Unfortunately a good tear down and once over will probably help the most. Side note, from this edit after reading some comments. This is something I noticed too, but typically you would have the super charger feed in from turbo because at lower rpm and lower boost they are pretty okay. The compressor of a turbo becomes more effective & efficient at higher RPM and higher boost. It won't harm the supper charger. But! While I would love to see it, I know how much work that is to a degree. So it might not be considered worth it unless you wanted to push that boost up and drop temps from it. I hope you figure it out and still have fun with it. Love the content.
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
All good points!! We definitely learned a lot with this first attempt. The O2 is why I want to build a proper exhaust lol. We also want to build a secondary intake for the turbo to get extra air once spooled. There is a guy with a sweet Saturn sky with a version of this set up that we are trying to base the build off. Thank you so much for the support!
@ShiroiShinjuDC5
@ShiroiShinjuDC5 5 ай бұрын
I have this exact idea for my rsx you’re just older and got to it first but thanks now I know what not to do and mine won’t be budget😈
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
More budget definitely helps!
@ryaninwa5375
@ryaninwa5375 5 ай бұрын
I had casually watched a few of your videos, but eventually I found myself seeking out the next chapter. I hope you guys go big.
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
It’s the only thing we know how to do lol
@Teddy_Morrison
@Teddy_Morrison 5 ай бұрын
You might want to relocate the O2 sensor closer to the turbo outlet because under low flow conditions fresh air can back flow and give the computer a lean condition causing it to add a bunch or fuel. If my the above is true it could have been a hydro lock due to a bad o2 signal.
@SteveTheBeardedWonder
@SteveTheBeardedWonder 5 ай бұрын
Yall should have a million subscribers. Ridiculous. Great video as always.
@The.Rad.Factory
@The.Rad.Factory 5 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@_Par1ah
@_Par1ah 5 ай бұрын
Need a y split with a electronic gate or at least a one way valve for the turbo intake so it can bypass the supercharger when it’s spooled up. As it stands the whole system is limited to the air the SC screw can move. Ideally you want a magnetic clutch on the SC so it can engage and disengage when needed. To go the cheap route you could make a manual hydraulic clutch for it.
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
That’s the goal!!
@_Par1ah
@_Par1ah 5 ай бұрын
@@RadFactoryGav that’s awesome! Can’t wait to see it come together
@claymore2k1T10
@claymore2k1T10 4 ай бұрын
No you don't, that would be twin charged, what they have there is compound charged, the only thing I don't see in the setup is a supercharger dump valve. I have a twin engined Volvo, both with superchargers and turbos, the setup is very similar to this.
@_Par1ah
@_Par1ah 4 ай бұрын
@@claymore2k1T10 in terms of performance, do you not understand that the supercharger becomes a bottleneck when the turbo is spooled without a way to completely bypass it and remove the parasitic loss? If all the air still has to route through the SC then you are limited to the air the SC can move and nothing more making the turbos just cool noise makers
@mastercricket7626
@mastercricket7626 5 ай бұрын
This is deff rad bro ... check into the twin charging cuz every time I seen it they have a bypass and a second tb so as to not over spin the supercharger with to much turbo boost ... idk 💯 tho so I say Che it out cuz this is deff rad and has insane potential my brethren ... and get it tuned a lil bro like a speedyefi and some tunerstudios is pretty simple to Learn and tune (I have it on mine with a 4849g (g25-550) and run 30-34psi ).. anyways peace and love bro keep it rad stay safe and build on..l8z famz and keep having fun guys
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!!!
@rb26sr
@rb26sr 5 ай бұрын
Totally awesome build! This isn't what you want to hear, but I knew you should've taken it back after just a quick little low throttle drive. The engine wasn't receiving the new modifications well at all...
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
We know that now 😂 hopefully we can find the problem and fix it soon and get it running again soon. We have it slated to get pushed back into the workshop later this week
@boostedproblems5139
@boostedproblems5139 5 ай бұрын
If you guys have any questions hit me up. I have a twincharged Sti engine m90/gt45, so I’ve done a lot of research on how to make it all work.
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Heck ya! That sounds like it would be crazy fast!
@boostedproblems5139
@boostedproblems5139 5 ай бұрын
It’s pretty quick, makes 20psi by 3500 and 30psi by 4500. With practically no back pressure! I may swap to a smaller gt35 but I’m afraid it would spool too fast and huck a rod lol
@dotmov4551
@dotmov4551 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@The.Rad.Factory
@The.Rad.Factory 5 ай бұрын
you rule!
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 5 ай бұрын
👍
@ktmmechanicsandaudio6803
@ktmmechanicsandaudio6803 5 ай бұрын
this reminds me of the good ol youtube days great video
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@averyanderson6945
@averyanderson6945 5 ай бұрын
I think the full exhaust out the back would be nice to have on it!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Agreed then I can move the wife and sensor as well
@Lifeunedited86
@Lifeunedited86 5 ай бұрын
Keep your head up keep going 😊
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! We will get it sorted and back up and running.
@4BillC
@4BillC 5 ай бұрын
I recently built an engine. Break in oil was full of glitter. About 2500 miles in, the car still runs great, no odd noise but still glitter oil. I cut open the last 2 filters and somehow I didn't see any metal in them! I'm just sending it until the issue shows itself or goes away!
@Chordae
@Chordae 5 ай бұрын
i love yalls stuff keep it up and im totally coping some merch
@The.Rad.Factory
@The.Rad.Factory 5 ай бұрын
appreciate you!
@jackkrupka3024
@jackkrupka3024 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully it's a simple fix!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Here’s to hoping!!
@DrFarquad
@DrFarquad 5 ай бұрын
Bought a shirt before I saw the end of this episode, now it's glad I did.
@The.Rad.Factory
@The.Rad.Factory 5 ай бұрын
we hugely appreciate you!
@LeadmanLean
@LeadmanLean 5 ай бұрын
I love you guys, keep the heads up you guys will get it I just know it I love this channel so much!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!! Thank you
@Henry-g8o
@Henry-g8o 5 ай бұрын
Never liked somthing to fast before ❤
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@Tzuau78
@Tzuau78 5 ай бұрын
This channel is fun. I find myself smiling weirdly, on the train to work, a lot 😂
@Tzuau78
@Tzuau78 5 ай бұрын
Except for the end of this vid 😢
@The.Rad.Factory
@The.Rad.Factory 5 ай бұрын
It means a lot! We will be back!
@Tzuau78
@Tzuau78 5 ай бұрын
@@The.Rad.Factory 💪🏻
@Fh-rw9gn
@Fh-rw9gn 5 ай бұрын
I think that it would work better if the turbo was feeding the supercharger becouse a supercharger pumps a fixed wolume of air so a turbo cant suck air trouh it.
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Possibly! Not 100% sure. We have seen both ways.
@Fh-rw9gn
@Fh-rw9gn 5 ай бұрын
@@RadFactoryGav When the supercharger feeds the turbo there’s usualy a check valve that lets the turbo suck in additional air. But im not sure neither becouse im not an expert. And thank you for the reply.
@tyr427
@tyr427 5 ай бұрын
You guys are having too much fun 😂 On a serious note, when twincharging you run them the other way around, the turbo should be fed by atmosphere and feed into the supercharger, your total airflow is limited by the first thing in the chain, same reason compound turbos use a large turbo feeding into the small one
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Lots of folks have said that!
@gtpfiero
@gtpfiero 5 ай бұрын
The supercharger is what caused those bearing to go. Think about all the tension on the serpentine from that turd blower transferring load onto the crank...which is why its #1 and #4.
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Interesting point, that could be possible
@johnnoe9682
@johnnoe9682 5 ай бұрын
Love the Fabbing, Gavving. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Just......doin' it. 👍👍🫣
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Certainly trying! Lol
@BossGarage
@BossGarage 5 ай бұрын
It only needed a tune 😅🔥🔥
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
We did a base tune and several warm up tunes. But yes a better tune was needed
@Billybong12088
@Billybong12088 5 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work on the videos guys. In a years time you guys willl have a big following for sure. Awesome videos from start to finish
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@JayTayPlay
@JayTayPlay 4 ай бұрын
Took me a minute to get recommended this because for some reason I didn't get the notification but glad to see another vid from you guys again :)
@fabiotiburzi
@fabiotiburzi 5 ай бұрын
it's actually better to feed the compressor with the turbo
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
We have seen it both ways, it’s uncharted waters for us either way lol
@James-b4m9t
@James-b4m9t 5 ай бұрын
Underrated channel
@The.Rad.Factory
@The.Rad.Factory 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate that!
@albi2k88
@albi2k88 5 ай бұрын
I think some valve between supercharger and turbocharger should be installed to let freeflow air into turbo when that spooled up (valve controlled by RPM or/and pressure by ecu). Or check is it positivie pressure present between supercharger and turbocharger to make sure that supercharger is not choking turbo when it spool up. Supergarger with electric clutch sould free up some power when turbo takes up boost generating.
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
We were thinking of adding a second blow off valve lol
@powercel800
@powercel800 5 ай бұрын
Just to add, you probably should have the turbo first in line, allowing it to pull in as much air as possible before feeding that to the supercharger as the supercharger will only flow a specific amount of air related directly to the speed at which it is rotating, which then won't allow the turbo to do anything as it will create a vacuum between its inlet and the outlet of the supercharger
@patmyclam8463
@patmyclam8463 5 ай бұрын
@The Rad Factory now use a turbo on exhaust at back of car let exhaust flow strait through turbo use compressor side to feed stainless steel exhaust tube with rocket nozzle and feed with oxygen and diesel fuel or propane or whatever fuel
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jhrocker
@jhrocker 5 ай бұрын
Best Briggs and Stratton upgrades
@The.Rad.Factory
@The.Rad.Factory 5 ай бұрын
😂
@terischannel
@terischannel 5 ай бұрын
This is kinda what I'm about to do with my Harley. Just not with a $300 supercharger or turbo 😂
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Harleys are already crazy powerful that would be nuts!
@terischannel
@terischannel 5 ай бұрын
@@RadFactoryGav I'm a large person... I need the HP and torque 😂
@aidanclifford501
@aidanclifford501 5 ай бұрын
How was I only the 513th like??? Why isn’t this channel blown up ( like all the superchargers)
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 solid burn haha
@ДанаилПетров-т9и
@ДанаилПетров-т9и 5 ай бұрын
Don't you need some sort of valve for the turbo intake to be able to feed itself from the atmosphere when the supercharger can't supply the air volume the turbo can suck at high rpm ???
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Technically yes, however most people we have researched did that as a second stage, just running it without that extra stuff first. The goal is to do that eventually
@brayanrivas5883
@brayanrivas5883 5 ай бұрын
You should buy a Temu turbo kit and put it on 😂😂 it would make a amazing video
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@DopaSlides
@DopaSlides 5 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this!! Thanks for the upload!!!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Excited to get it running!
@danbrown5850
@danbrown5850 5 ай бұрын
I love this build series
@nopenope9841
@nopenope9841 5 ай бұрын
Oil cooler alert or keep spinning rod bearings or get a better oil pan. Or remember to fill with extra oil for the turbo plumbing. One way or another the oil not doing it’s job :)
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Good point! I believe we did add extra oil but I don’t think we have the oil cooler.
@High_strung
@High_strung 5 ай бұрын
Love your content but come on man as soon as it started that bucking you should have adjusted the tune i was cringing every time you kept going knowing what was going to happen. Cant wait to see the recovery tho
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Definitely needed a proper tune, the auto tune didn’t cut it. It ran fine under load but hated when we came off throttle.
@ramair325
@ramair325 5 ай бұрын
oh man i cant wait for next video! keep em rollin! trust your going places fast with videos like these!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!! We are definitely going to rebuild and try again.
@ramair325
@ramair325 5 ай бұрын
@@RadFactoryGav HELL YA BROTHER!!!
@ramair325
@ramair325 5 ай бұрын
@@RadFactoryGav Oh Brother, just wanted to say i've done some sketched out stuff with boost my self over the years... if you want to do BOOST you NEEEEED methanol injection! it does two very important things. it provides extra cooling like an intercooler only better! AND it provides detonation resistance due to the cooler burning and slower burning methanol. aslo known as windshield washer fluid injection :D I used a old mid 70's car windshield washer squirter to really add a boat load of water/methanol into my extremely over boosted 88grand am 2.0L. just have it come on under boost and your ready to go! ps you can fine tune it by sqeezing the end down a bit or just buy a kit with some very large sprayer nozzles. its *almost* like you cant add too much lol.
@kevinrutherford5552
@kevinrutherford5552 5 ай бұрын
please get that man a fan . Great fab work
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Amen!!! 😂
@viljarsletteberg
@viljarsletteberg 5 ай бұрын
20:56 is engine start
@oliverscorsim
@oliverscorsim 5 ай бұрын
It's not that one can't run the blower into the turbo it's that in almost all cases you wouldn't want to do that. The thought is that the blower is not a very good compressor at real pressure ratios but the turbo is so you use the blower to feed enough boost to the engine that it acts like a bigger engine and spools the turbo quickly. It does work well. Now on banks pikes peak semi they did it the other way because the turbo they need to run is huge and the atmosphere is thin and it's a diesel. They don't throttle with air but fuel and that means the egts are also low off throttle so no energy to keep the turbo in speed. Feeding the blower through promises a minimum of let's say 30psi already in the charge pipes and intercoolers meaning when they get back on the throttle they can jump into enough fuel to make some power without melting anything due to high egts that extra boost air in a diesel is to cool combustion not to make the actual power if you will. You have a gas engine a Mazda bp series from what i can see. I'd love to see a cheap m90 feeding the engine and a gtx2876 feeding it. I think youl find no lag but keep in mind from a compound turbo guy if that blower is set up to run 1bar or 15 psi and the turbo is set to the same 15psi you won't get 30psi in the engine youl get 45psi 😅 you have to multiply the pressure ratio not add the psi. Given the injector sizes that won't live one gear 😂 and given the boost you need e85 or meth to have a chance I'd start with a standalone and 8 injectors a set that you have and a set of 2200cc to come in with boost
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 5 ай бұрын
My heart dropped. Dont worry, you guys overcome this. It's just a small obstacle. Let's get rad and fix the polished turd 😂🚘
@The.Rad.Factory
@The.Rad.Factory 5 ай бұрын
We’ll get it figured out soon! Just have to fix the other broken car first 😅
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
We always do! lol, it might just take us a few tries
@herbyderbys1629
@herbyderbys1629 5 ай бұрын
I like your channel a lot. I have one suggestion. You in the pink shirt. When you are calmer and more genuine it seems much better. But when you add excitement that isn't natural, it is off putting. Just be yourself and that is much better my friend. Such as when you are explaining that there aren't big chunks in the motor. You are way more easy to listen to and entertaining. It could just be me but when you are "acting" more excited it just comes off as disingenuous and you don't have to do that at all my friend. You guys are totally entertaining as yourselves. Good luck ok the miata adventure and i hope you guys continue to grow. Good stuff here.
@fire_node2416
@fire_node2416 5 ай бұрын
also check your spark plug gap or get some better plugs because that can make a difference in boost
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
We did use upgraded spark plugs designed for the Miata with boost.
@steven44799
@steven44799 5 ай бұрын
you have done the twin charging backwards, the turbo inlet is meant to be open to the atmosphere, the turbo outlet goes into the inlet of the supercharger and the supercharger goes to the intercooler.
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
We have seen it both ways
@delcowizzid
@delcowizzid 5 ай бұрын
Definately turbo into the charger
@CountDrankula0o0
@CountDrankula0o0 5 ай бұрын
I do like me a nice pair of Toyotas!
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@AT-fz2tv
@AT-fz2tv 5 ай бұрын
Idk why you wanted to push it before proper tuning was done. This is what happens. Time to rebuild that motor again.
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
It’s hard to tell Dylan to calmly/gently drive 😂
@JamesManukonga
@JamesManukonga 5 ай бұрын
In regards to exhaust, if y'all get this thing going well and enjoy it, i think itd be worth redoing all the mounts and relocate everything for 'practicality', then do a standard exhaust setup :)
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
I definitely like a more standard exhaust. We would have to remove power steering to get anything to fit tighter though
@amongoose1
@amongoose1 5 ай бұрын
Hell yeah. Another cool video guys!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@CR41G7P
@CR41G7P 5 ай бұрын
Loving your channel guys
@sillywillie6484
@sillywillie6484 5 ай бұрын
I couldn't click on this video fast enough! Awesome video guy's!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Heck ya, thank you!!
@SteveEh
@SteveEh 5 ай бұрын
Always a Rad day when you guys upload!!
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@The.Rad.Factory
@The.Rad.Factory 5 ай бұрын
🙌🏽🙌🏽
@Biggestmac27
@Biggestmac27 5 ай бұрын
I love you guys
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@Zonkobel
@Zonkobel 5 ай бұрын
plumbing the supercharger to the turbo would be easier if you would turn the SC upside down. Or is there something in the way
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
No way to mount it unfortunately the mounts are only on the one side
@DeliriousGamingNMusic
@DeliriousGamingNMusic Ай бұрын
I might have to go through this miata series just to count how many times you say “what could possibly go wrong”. I say this every time I do something new to my van
@unknownunanimous2160
@unknownunanimous2160 5 ай бұрын
Sorry to be that guy but Why not break in the motor Also can we name this miata fire hazard Keep trying guys i hope this car/ project lives on and the best of luck to yall
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
😂😂 fire hazard is amazing
@HOTRODPOKEMON
@HOTRODPOKEMON 5 ай бұрын
Keep going men let’s gooooooo
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Gotta keep trying! Lol
@cracklingice
@cracklingice 5 ай бұрын
Twin charging is a tuning nightmare. GL.
@scottcameron5972
@scottcameron5972 5 ай бұрын
Lol he said I don't know what happened.He was beaten on it with a super charger and a turbo with no tune
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
It had soooooommmees tuning lol
@scottcameron5972
@scottcameron5972 5 ай бұрын
Either way it makes me want another turbo miata to turn it into a kart
@butters2160
@butters2160 5 ай бұрын
Are the front rotors on backwards?
@RadFactoryGav
@RadFactoryGav 5 ай бұрын
Nah don’t think so
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