Turbulent Energy Explained: The Vortex Turbine!

[@Rod-bp8ow]

The continuous water design makes the vortex of the energy flow smoothly and harnessing energy from the source is excellent. Keep going.

[@andrian007]

Absolutely brilliant! Every river in the world should have this!

[@harrisonturner1401]

Congratulations on the success of your product and making a positive impact on people all around the world, this looks like an idea that took a lot of passion and effort to put into effect and it looks like this will really pay off. great work

[@mistirion4929]

I really love the design of these things I always thought when passing by a small river or lake with a steady flow of water: I could place a small turbine in there to charge a batterypack and use this energy later for powering LEDs or something. This is exactly that idea just bigger and I'm amazed that it exists. Really like it

[@seanregehr4921]

Ever seen a water wheel? This is old technology, really old.

[@robertbaelen7656]

@@seanregehr4921 hmm using the vortex is not so old, and fish stay safe.

[@danielimanah8681]

How do we get in touch. We are conceiving a mini hydro project in my country and would like to have some information on how we could work together

[@chetankhandave]

Such small, cheap and simple technologies can change world. Such technologies can make world a better place. Best of luck.

[@BACTAonPC]

Everybody who lives near a river needs one of these

Depends on the cost...

[@novastar6112]

@ meh. just sell back the electricity to the grid. No really, they literally said that you can do that in the video.

@@novastar6112 good idea, but poor countries have bureaucracy problems and setting up a local power generator would have to be done by the right person.

[@acillius2]

@@novastar6112 it depends on the cost and from the looks of it, not cheap. I wonder how many year it will need to pay itself off also gotta look at maintenance costs to which could and probably is quite expensive.

[@novastar6112]

@@acillius2 Maintenance is low, due to lack of moving parts. But yea I get your point: initial costs. Cheaper than hydrodams at any rate though.

[@breadsoup3708]

Imagine how fun this would be as a water slide

[@solarstorm-1]

Y’know, assuming it was a big enough model to support humans, it probably would be

[@thelowpro6908]

Isn't it just like a bowl slide?

[@GMan-yv8cb]

Depending on the RPM and material used for the turbine, it might be limited to 1 ride per person! 🤔

[@breadsoup3708]

@@GMan-yv8cb oh no

[@solarstorm-1]

Bread Soup well, considering larger turbines would spin slower maybe just maybe you’d be safe :P

[@arifmekanik]

Very good idea.... free energy with water... like it from java👍

[@mrbizi5652]

What is the cost of small system?

[@TurbulentHydro]

You can visit our website, where you will find a range of prices for our turbine models. Of course, the cost will vary depending on the site characteristics, so make sure to send us any site you have in mind and we will send you a price quotation :)

[@galicate_old]

@Ken MacDonald Well its hard for them to give you a price if they have no idea how big it needs to be, the best thing they could do is tell you how much all the resources would cost/

[@andersbell6974]

Ok so I just looked it up on google and it said $1,000-$20,000 per unit, but I don't think that includes maintenance. Hope this helps!

[@mrbizi5652]

@@andersbell6974 thanks but I think that's the problem. I need to know price per kW to understand the value vs. alternatives like solar or wind, etc.

[@HernanPastenes]

@Ken MacDonald well to be honest if you are in a remote area the cost will be higher than if you are near the capital (for example) and the amount of concrete that you will need to use but I guess what you mean is to have a reference idea like 3k to 8k usd, and have some sort of disclaimer saying something like: *price may be higher due to exchange rates and access to the site where the system will be built

[@Nighthawke70]

Has there been a design proposed using stacked turbines, starting with the smallest first, then sizing them outward, recovering more and more energy from the cascade as it flows downward? Or vice versa, biggest first them shrink the cone down, building velocity and pressure. Or even keep them the same size, just counter-rotate the blades to maintain head pressure, or keep them the same direction... Just a few thoughts from a brain that loves to work in fluid ways.

[@h0tj0hn]

May we please know the rough estimate for a 5 kwh or 15 kwh systems? I'm still on the hunt of a property with usable water source but it would be nice to have a peek of your pricing so I'll have an idea for a rough budget.

[@TurbulentHydro]

www.turbulent.be/contact-us :)

[@HDCamcord]

@@TurbulentHydro just Tell us some numbers 🙄🤌🏻

[@ArtanisTheEvil]

@@HDCamcord roughly a max power of 180 kw, not more than that, and it's already the maximum peak which almost never happens I guess

[@brandonberchtold9484]

Awesome idea! Is there any sort of emergency stop for the turbines? Like what happens if a branch falls into the stream just before the vortex? Alternatively on a more serious note, what happens if an animal or person falls into the vortex? I feel like some fencing just above the vortex would be a good idea and likely wouldn't increase the cost too much.

[@nedegt1877]

It doesn't have to be open. Put a cover over it

[@TheBlownapart]

The opening on the top of the vortex can be covered with a simple iron grate or mesh, and I believe it wouldn't be too expensive to do the same for the rest of the vortex channel to protect from what you mentioned.

[@bethymears2648]

Yes you are right, The what if. And the probabilities are Very high. Or like what I said some Idiot will jump in. Need a steel mesh Cover over it.

[@oksupra]

@@bethymears2648 can be done

[@phoenicianbird109]

Great project... What is the price of a turbine?? And you can deliver to lebanon in middel east??

[@KanishQQuotes]

Very beneficial in hills especially. This could be used in India where long canals have been build to bring water from the huge himalayan rivers to the plains down south

[@percyz]

Where does the control cabinet get it's electricity?

[@gertoberholster5]

Magnifique merci beaucoup.

[@richardsierakowski1623]

Great info thanks.

[@winterburan]

The merits compared to a vertical half kaplan fixed propeller turbine with aspirated exhaust? It costs less? is it more efficient? Leaving aside the comparison with the screw turbines. I do not understand. Ciao

[@recklessroges]

The Archimedes' screw turbines, (that are installed "diagonally") use more material to construct and require more maintenance due to the load not being axial or perpendicular to the thrust of the water. These are installed on small streams and have a much lower impact on the aquatic life than any of the technologies that you listed. The kaplan, as I understand it, would be less efficient in a low-head environment. (Kaplan are great when you have a dam that is half a mile above the kaplan turbine.)

[@winterburan]

@@recklessroges Maybe I wrote wrong, I also specified leaving out the arcmede screws, (maintenance costs, etc.) not far from me there is the first co-commercialized archimede screw in the world with variable speed with regenerative inverter to modulate the flow rate, built 18 years ago and (object of study at the time being a novelty, built by the German company which has now been absorbed by a multi-national company, which marketed them for the first time ever over 20 years ago, leaving out this I read many imprecisations, fixed propeller turbines they are not Full Kaplan turbines, but both are born for very low jumps being reaction turbines with aspirated exhaust, they also work with only one meter, then subsequently they have been improved and brought to work even beyond 50 meters for full Kaplan, they are unparalleled as efficiency on the flow rate work curve, but only in large systems and with 2 settings, those not full kaplan but with fixed propeller are practically identical to this stuff, they can be open or closed chamber with radial inlet with or without fixed distributor always for jumps from one meter upwards, this "turbine" appears more commercial for developing countries than anything else, large diameter to slow down and adapt the centrifugal speed of the water to that of the propeller, in the end it is a propeller with an open loading chamber, nothing new we have similar turbines from 1920/1930 with an open loading chamber in the irrigation channels, the propeller turbines fixed are not used on dams or large jumps but precisely in small hydro plants with similar flow rates, they are in the hydroelectric field, this one in the video has adjustable propellers so it is not a fixed prop but a semi-kaplan type, so nothing new. that's why I don't see anything innovative and I don't understand.

[@TurbulentHydro]

@@winterburan Good questions, and some already answered above. What do you mean with aspirated exhaust? I don't get that term. As per benefits, we design these turbines to be cost efficient and requiring low amounts of expertise to install. We didn't add a draft tube as the extra efficiency it gave us, didn't outweigh the added costs of digging further down. You have to keep in mind that we design these systems for remote areas and for refurbishment of old mills. existing hydraulic structures etc. When you have to dig down under the water level, you have to put sheet piling around your build site and pump away the ground water. That all adds to the costs. By keeping it simple we want to make these projects doable by people without expert experience in hydraulic civil works. KISS is our moto, Keep it Simple and ssss...cheap.

[@uroosazahra1961]

How we can purchase it?

[@sandugoofficial4574]

Do you have physical office here in the Philippines?

[@hisyamuddinsarbini8378]

how can i get in touch with the sales team?..

[@fredygmf]

Para adquirir una en colombia. Cual es el contacto ?. Gracias

[@raithunder]

Once I have enough money.. I'll contact you guys.

[@djjc9782]

for 30K Euros, id go online and look at the DIY builds on YT

[@mohammadhafeezullah1846]

I want to present this in my final year project

[@kayak0000]

This is amazing. Take my money!

[@troydeweever4091]

how much is one of them?

[@nguyenthoai1126]

How much đoes cost this turbin (15kw)? How to order it ?

[@NOBOX7]

So it harnesses the power of crioulos forces ?

[@TurbulentHydro]

nope, potential energy. That coriolis thing is miniscule

[@marioquiachon8447]

The best invention that I discover today

[@adityanosa7899]

How much is the cost?

[@hyferCOM]

where we can buy the product how much for the installation location is Philippines?

[@petreene1411]

Hello! were we find a link to a schp of thise turbulent hydro? thanks

[@shinob1866]

Is the runner a Kaplan?

[@alekseevstepan]

why it rotates before water come?

[@TurbulentHydro]

When starting up the turbine we bring it up to speed so that we can control the inrush currents. If we don't do that we can trip the safeties

[@alekseevstepan]

@@TurbulentHydro but look weird, for demostration you could just slowly increase water flow

[@paulh4870]

Does this sold in the US?

[@LuisRenaud-b9c]

Me interesa mucho su tecnología para incluir en nuestros proyectos urgente

[@drugsparow8120]

MERCI VICKTOR SCHAUBERGER :)

[@geovannychavesobando759]

Hola, buenas tardes quisiera saber como se puede comprar una turbina de esas pero más pequeña. Y cual es el valor?

[@portnuefflyer]

At 3:19, note the counter clockwise rotation...., Bali is a bit south of the equator, obviously.

[@TVasyliv160783]

Is it can run in Norway, at -20 °C?

[@speedlearner]

I wonder if this could be installed somewhere in the Mississippi river.

[@MrEarth-dr9sj]

can it be mounted without a water source and use pump for water circulation

[@СергейАлексеевич-и3щ]

"Центробежная сила" это разность давления у потока движущегося по окружнлсти, на внешнем радиусе потока повышенное дааление, на внутреннем радиусе пониженное давление. Пониженное давление это прирост энергии, его можно использовать для разгона потока. Там у вас перепад более метра, значит можно прогнать пару оборотов, что увеличит скорость потока и как следствие энергию.

[@americancreditloans8829]

What happens when the river freezes in winter?

[@JB-yb4wn]

Then you get cold fusion. 😁

[@Royalltop1]

Rivers do not freeze solid water is always moving under the ice.

[@arungeorge7240]

Wish to see you here in India.

[@4philipp]

Any designs that can be installed in the downspout section of a barn or two story building?

[@RAMZAVFX]

Genuine question, is there an manetic interference resistant resistant framework? (Little far out of city limit off grid homestead)

[@sean2val]

So awesome

[@michaelsolis1390]

Whats the price for a 5kw option plus shipping?

[@tintobo5072]

Muy buena esa turbina es fabulosa los felicito desde colombia las estoy fabricando

[@jigold22571]

Fabulous, ThankU for sharing and posting.

[@Reggro1264]

3:59 wait, it's spinning without water? What's powering it up?

[@Antennenwels1]

Just guessing but they might use the generator as a electric motor when starting up the system. Could give them advantages with the bearings . But I'm really just guessing. But i know for sure you can use an electric motor as a generator and vice versa easily and its done quite frequently

[@quillmaurer6563]

Looks to me like a small amount of water is flowing into it. Probably running no-load at minimum flow, turbine just free-spinning, maybe they get it turning like that before opening up the wicket gate fully and connect the generator to electrical load.

[@TurbulentHydro]

@@quillmaurer6563 Jup, to limit inrush currents mainly

[@djjc9782]

because the sluice gate is open at the bottom a small bit. how the fuck are all you lot not seeing it? ah right yeah, coz you have no clue, and looking for BS to call out.

[@PEJOGON]

Excelente labor

[@ComedyCart123]

Can I get cost estimates please for setting up a micro unit.

[@abugogra3367]

Please I want to know how do I get to you such company are needed in my country which is sierra leone

[@markproductions7940]

how much could this setup be for residential scale? i mean for home/single/1 house only scale

[@Lexfr0mkhar]

What the generator do you use?

[@TurbulentHydro]

induction generator, nice and robust

[@Lexfr0mkhar]

@@TurbulentHydro it is obviously, generator induces voltage, but what type? Synchronous with PM, with excitation coil, BLDC, SRM, or asynchronous generator? :)

[@TurbulentHydro]

@@Lexfr0mkhar Induction = asynchronous

[@Lexfr0mkhar]

@@TurbulentHydro you should try smth with PM, therefore asynchronous machines with a squirrel cage aren't very efficient in a generator mode ;)

[@trunkie7792]

How much dose it cost?

[@kurtappley4550]

I'd like to know the efficiency of this system compared to conventional propeller turbines.

[@robertbaelen7656]

The efficiency is better. Go to to the website. Everything is localy made exept the turbine generator. Local people can keep an eye on it.

[@chanthapen4671]

interested to learn from thisturbins

[@reymarucab9075]

How to send it thanks

[@dawanta5093]

How can I join this community ?

[@GoldFishSuldeMinas]

we would like to implement this system in Brazil. Who do I talk to to find out if there is a possibility and at what cost? thanks.

[@edinilsonramos9519]

Bom dia. Você conseguiu informações sobre representante do Turbulent no Brasil?

[@Powerzize]

This is super cool! I have a couple of questions: 1. Why do you only divert a small amount of water from the main flow? I would've thought more water passing through would be more profitable/ productive 2. I read some replies on previous videos, and you claim the efficiency is 50%. Where do you get this figure?

[@toti4152]

2: You can calculate the potential energy the water has before and after it enters the turbine and compare that to the energy the turbine produced.

[@jjbarajas5341]

Probably because diverting the entire flow of water to build something to capture the entire flow would be expensive.

[@TonyM1961]

The system is built in a scale that only requires x amount of waterflow to generate energy at max capacity. You have to take into account that you are not the only person who needs to use the water plus by only diverting part of the stream you get past the environmental extremists who would claim that diverting the entire flow would adversely impact the local ecosystem. Why ruffle any more feathers than absolutely necessary to get the amount of energy that you need for your project? At least that's what makes the most sense to me

[@nelsonsantiago863]

Where to reach out here in Philippines to get more information and assistance regarding this vortex turbine?

[@TurbulentHydro]

Best way is to fill out your contact details on our contact us page. Please make sure to give us the estimated height difference and flow for your river. That way we can immediately tell you the feasibility when connecting you to our local representative.

[@iraqisonic9920]

كيف يمكنني التواصل معكم

[@abelalfeuz5860]

mind i asked where is the location?

[@TheOriginalDeckBoy]

Hey Turbulent.. I'll be messaging you for a few of these soon... a few hundred...

[@TurbulentHydro]

Here I am checking my mail every day, but nothing. Giving me the cold shoulder? ;) You can always go to www.turbulent.be/contact-us

[@TheOriginalDeckBoy]

@@TurbulentHydro ill do that..

[@TurbulentHydro]

Hi Callum! With a name like Gillman we would've expected your mail already! Don't miss the opportunity to go into FISH friendly technology with a name like that! 😉

[@limpanskok]

Har ni någon ÅF i Sverige ?

[@martylynchian8628]

How much power does this swirling toilet blade make?

[@nicholastrust8883]

My house is next to a small stream, I might try using this.

[@greenmountainboy2528]

How are you going to design and build the concrete chamber (called a volute) and who is going to do the hydraulic and electrical calculations? These things are engineered, you can’t buy one at Walmart.

[@jwmulvaney]

@@greenmountainboy2528 Dude.. Just crush another dream.

[@TurbulentHydro]

@@greenmountainboy2528 Well we can help with the engineering part. Would you guys want to see a video of how to make the volute out of concrete, metal, or even wood?

[@TurbulentHydro]

@Muckin 4on That's the spirit. But seriously, if you ask for the plans we can give them!

[@esyanoel8347]

If we gonna use it this sistem, how much money to built this thing ?

[@marcdevon]

its so satisfying

[@riekyh7890]

how i can buy your product?

[@gamgaraii9707]

What is the biggest VTurbine size?

[@fredkaram5238]

I emailed you in regards to instalation in my village in Lebanon. But I never received any response. Thanks

[@MikoMellic]

What kind of generators is used in your turbine ? Synchronous or asynchronous generators?

[@JB-yb4wn]

Both and neither, hope that helps. 😁

[@joshschneider9766]

Horizontal turbines are also useful. This setup is absolutely viable! I hope people realize how beneficial this can be. Small manufacturing businesses can use their own setup and be completely independent! Man I want to create a small glass blowing factory that's all electric with one of these. I wonder if I can get a development grant somewhere in Europe to do that. Hmm.

[@ingresos-inteligentes927]

The generator is monophase o three-phase?

[@TurbulentHydro]

up to 5kW one phase, everything larger is 3 phase

[@legendary9027]

wait what is that in Bali??

[@TurbulentHydro]

an installation at the Green School?

[@georgejamba9979]

I would love to work with these guys in my country 🙏🏿

[@robertbaelen7656]

Ask them, they come.

[@oksupra]

@@robertbaelen7656 yes

[@adeelyousafMughalsOnline]

I like your project. Its a good design and good for the earth with 0% emitting carbon. I'm planning to create a same in my village on a running stream in front of my home. But I have not much resources. If you let me know what things I need for a 10 to 15 KW system and how much expensive It is. That will be a great help.

[@salimsopari]

I am interested in a 5kw system for my property in Colombia, who can I speak to about this?

[@powerplaywithmuhammadjaved6657]

If I want parchase this system where is avelabe in Pakistan

[@KiloChan21]

Do you have options for private property in Usa? I know a few farmers that have river going through their properties that would love these.

[@gabrielfoltz7126]

You wouldn’t be able to make these in the US. New dams are rarely being built in the US because of their environmental impact on River ecology. The best you could do is upgrade an existing dam that does not currently provide hydroelectricity, so farmers would be out of luck unless they have a dam in their property already

Please advise me. I come from Vietnam. My area has a reservoir and has water flowing all year round, the flow is about 1m3/s and the height is about 2 meters.

[@harridaredevil2781]

so awesome dude can you tell me how does it produce power at a very low RPM?

[@philipphermann9454]

I think the Water in the Vortex has a high momentum. Momentum times RPM is Power, so high momentum with low RPM can generate as much Power as low momentum with high RPM.

[@harridaredevil2781]

@@philipphermann9454 oh i got it now thanks man

[@rileywaghorn6225]

I know this is late but the turbines have large motors that can generate sufficient power at low rpms. The water does need to have enough force or momentum to push the motors thou.

[@rileywaghorn6225]

I’m saying this because it’s about how much the turbine/motor spins not the momentum of the water. Faster water will turn the turbine more and produce more power and slower water will produce less power. So the rpm of the turbine and the motor(energy produced) is effected by the momentum of the water and the size of the motor not the rpm x momentum of the water

[@Stormwern]

"In a world where muscular Mannies are coming, and they're coming strong..."

[@Billy420-69]

Turbulent juice?

[@andreansanjaya8538]

Ofvlol99lijio

[@TurbulentHydro]

@@Billy420-69 That's our trademark name for the gearbox oil :P

[@Stormwern]

@@TurbulentHydro Have you considered advertising on Adult Swim?

[@five12man]

Sex sells what?

[@palofumeque1984]

esta turbina puede aprovechar la fuerza de una caida de agua (ligeramente inclinada) de 200 metros?

[@placerdemaio]

very dangerous been open like that, if some animal fall in or people

[@pasticcinideliziosi1259]

Putting a grate is like 15 dollars more and can be done by pretty much everyone

[@jaikumar848]

Rpm is very low....

[@arcachofo]

@@jaikumar848 windmill rpm is even lower, and they work very well

[@Salutyyy]

@@jaikumar848 I mean sure rpm is low, but it's not small enough for ppl to pass trough easily lol

[@Kodagraphy]

@@arcachofo Blade tip speed increases the larger the diameter of the turbine, and many windfarms increase tip velocity of turbine blades by a factor of 10 relative to the wind speed. Blade tip speed on turbines like this will be lower than incoming water, which is designed to be low, harming little to no aquatic life, and be no more dangerous to terrestrial life than any normal non-mechanical irrigation transfer would be. Tens of thousands of birds die at the blades of windfarms every year. **Just fact-checked myself. Turns out it's estimated to be HUNDREDS of thousands of birds, not tens.

[@jedrayestremos9240]

how much

[@lunytrickz]

Thinking: if U make a closed loop, as in 1 pump pushing the water strait up to say 2 meters, from there ya put ten 20cm high vortex turbines (or five 40cm vortex turbines) in series. could they generate more power than is needed for the 1 pump to push it up the 2 meters? thus creating free nrg ^^

[@ceschias3733]

If I have a river that can manage several Mini Hydro's, can you add the power of each one, how does that work? what do you need for adding?

[@robertbaelen7656]

The only thing you need is quantity of water and a drop og 1.5meters.

[@ChandraFauzi]

Is this device is free?

[@nou4898]

you are have english skill good

[@ChandraFauzi]

@@nou4898 sorry for my bad English

[@TurbulentHydro]

We also have to pay our rent. But we ae making models where you can do a lot of the work yourself to make it affordable. Interested?

[@Ronin.97]

@@TurbulentHydro YES PLEASE!

[@skmalik6605]

I am wanted to baye this tarbin ..frome where i shuold baye it

[@cateachervent8785]

And is one of your projects possible in a stream that has a naturally acidic pH? People in my community say that my poor little yellow river is useless. Is it possible if it can work for this?

[@summabiotech9586]

great inventon

[@melvinriga465]

Man I Love this

[@kleemanjad]

Need to see this application in malaysia

[@carlsingleton7451]

Nice idea, but I'm sure federal/state/local governments forbid disturbing streams or small rivers, so this installation would have to be a covert one ;)

[@TurbulentHydro]

which is totally possible ;) Hint hint

[@TonyM1961]

Fence off your property well away from the turbine site with lots of no trespassing signs then design a bit of overhead camo to hide from the inevitable drones they use these days. Shouldn't take much to make it appear to be a small log jam or something from the air while the turbine does it's job underneath

[@Wholer20o]

@@TurbulentHydro hi how much does it cost and how much power this model can produce I mean if some families in the farm. CA they get whole electricity needs for their home like the City and the 5KwDoes it the end of it's capacity or it produce 5kw per hour