Turcite B Installation

[@AlmostMachining]

That was just flat out awesome to watch! Stan was awesome to work with. I think we lifted either the table or flat stone maybe 5 times an hour. The underside of the table was flat stoned and checked against the plate. Turcite likes to have a ground surface to ride on...inverse of that in this case. To see it slowly come in is testament to just slow progression and care. Grinding 6x18 worth of a mixed material surface can be hell on a wheel and as Stan gets it closer and closer the end result will improve. The odd shape of the stone is for strength. Pivot points settled nicely and the stone was 6" longer than the base. Blade angle was sometimes flat as we were using the outbound non push scraping direction. We also went with carbide as my smaller radius blades were only carbide. It is really easy to have an oopsie on the plastic. Thanks again !!!

[@OldIronMachineWorks]

Keep it up and you’ll have to change your channel name to Al Machining 😊 The spindle made a little noise, but that motor ran like a top 👍 Well done

[@AlmostMachining]

@@OldIronMachineWorks I have so much always going on. Happy new year Gary!

[@MrEndoftheRoadRC]

Hey, I know that dude.👍

[@garyhowe88]

I often have to replace or install turcite on site on machine tables any where from 12foot to 35 + feet, How we do it is releasing agent on the machine base/table (which ever one we aren't sticking it too) then stick the turcite on the V and flat and put the table back on the base while the epoxy goes off. Pull off the next day, blue it and scrape it in. Never far out.

[@noblebrown6077]

This is how we do it too

[@bobhudson6659]

It is really something to me, and now Stan, when a fellow comes and spends 2 full days with you helping you with something you really need help with. Well done Phil.

[@davidsnyder2000]

There’s nothing better than having good friends helping out and sticking it out through the whole process 👍

[@ashpalmer1365]

There isnt any useful content on KZbin about this process. Thank you for making a video on it! I would like a video where you applied turcite to a piece of steel and then went through the process of scraping it in. Filmed close and in detail. Been loving the stream of new releases! Thank you!

[@wrongfullyaccused7139]

Ash: Vintage machinery has a video on that.

[@ashpalmer1365]

@@wrongfullyaccused7139 Thanks, I will try and find it!

[@richardjones1022]

This was an amazing video. I learned a ton about scraping just from watching you gentlemen putting the work in. Thank you so much for sharing!

[@davidsnyder2000]

A lot of patience needed in this task. Thanks for the tutorial🙂 Nice job…..and job well done 👍

[@ROBRENZ]

Nicely done guys! ATB, Robin

[@ShadonHKW]

I'm new to this process, there were a couple of times we almost called you. But we muddled our way through it, thanks for stopping by to have a look.

[@wazza8610]

Ive just machined 3 gibs for a cnc milling machine. I cut them to size and skimmed them 0.2mm oversize to the originals that were really worn. My mate the maintenance engineer then scraped them and fit them to the machine, it took him all day but the results were that we recovered the machine. I also put all the oil grooves into the turcite. Was a great job.

[@bigbattenberg]

Very interesting. Also you have a fantastic voice. Cheers from Holland.

[@charlieromeo7663]

Interesting adhesive choice for Turcite. Typically epoxy is used with glass beads to control bondline thickness is used. I recently bonded Turcite on my Hardinge HLV-H saddle and tailstock after a bed plate regrind. The results were remarkable and the accuracy of the machine exceeds Hardinge specifications. Turcite is some wonderful stuff. Nice job, Stan.

[@garyhowe88]

Waylock 2 is what is recommended to adhere the turcite, 2 part epoxy that hasn't had glass beads in it for more than 10 years, isn't needed, been working with turcite for 25ish years.

[@charlieromeo7663]

@@garyhowe88 It comes down to the amount of pressure applied. I’ve seen guys apply too much and there can be excessive squeeze out resulting in a bondline that is too thin that can’t handle loads. Proper squeeze out after pressure application is very important such that a fillet can be formed along the edge for maximum strength. It’s the way I was trained during my time bonding high reliability heatshield parts on the space shuttle and the Orion capsule. I just carried that process to my personal stuff because it works for me. Apparently you’ve got your process nailed down very well!

[@dizzolve]

it IS a good subject. There are MANY clapped machines that the owners wished they could fix. Maybe with a few more videos like this we can

[@OldIronMachineWorks]

Very nice Stan, thanks for taking the time to show some of the work in a video. Happy New Year. Gary

[@danielgilbert5312]

not bad nice to watch your learning adventure, this is good for the rest of us to watch.

[@CraigLYoung]

I've heard about Turcite for years but this is the first time seeing it applied. Thanks for sharing 👍 and Happy New Year to you and your family 👪

[@billdoodson4232]

First time I have seen Turcite being scraped in, excellent stuff. At 28:00 I loved the retro UK ring tone on the phone. We still have the double ring buts more of a double tone on the new phones.

[@ShadonHKW]

It's loud and annoying, I get into some really noisy places, and this always gets my attention.☎

[@billdoodson4232]

@@ShadonHKW Excellent stuff!

[@DudleyToolwright]

That was a useful video to watch. Thanks, Stan. Boy that turcite is expensive. 12"x12"x 0.125" is over $400!

[@ShadonHKW]

This was the best price we could find mtsandtg.com/turcite-slydway-material

[@steamfan7147]

The best video I have seen of the process, thanks for posting!

[@movax20h]

Great videos. At 25:00, when you do pivot test. With this flat bar / granite straight edge, the pivot is not going to be at 1/3. This is because this flat bar does not have uniform weight on whole length. It will be closer to center.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

That was really interesting . Is there a previous video containing prep work & checking the underside of the table first . 👍👍

[@amundsen575]

great info, I have a really worn out Boyer Schultz and your method looks great , will be aware or moisture, are the scraper blade angles the same as cast iron 5 degrees? wow the proof is in the pudding ,5 point grind test verifies how good you do, Thanks - extremely helpful to me, a home gamer with some worn out machinery.

[@MrEndoftheRoadRC]

I would go to Phil's shop on the weekends. Hey, bro!...what do you want to work on? "Scrape shit"! Ok. That's an incredibly time consuming process. Nice vid.

[@bearsrodshop7067]

Great team work. Lot more work than it looks like for sure. Best to you both in 23 👍👍

[@paultopolski1978]

Great video Stan. I have heard a lot of talk on other channels about Turcite, but I have never seen the bonding or scraping of it. My only disappointment in this video is that you didn't show how to tram the chuck!

[@joell439]

Thanks for exposing us to something I know nothing about. Very interesting. Happy New Year 👍😎👍

[@glenc90240]

Awesome! Looking good, much easier than dealing with the chrome!

[@jfischer2]

where are the measuring tools? granite square, precision level, indicators?

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Nice job so far, a little adjustment.😊😊😊😊😊

[@outsidescrewball]

Enjoyed…HNY…great discussion/demonstration

[@carlwhite8225]

Stan, this is an interesting process, Thanks.

[@akfarmboy49]

I have a old Norten tool and cutter grinder that gives me ideas what to do with it

[@seabreezecoffeeroasters7994]

Interesting video. Long term CA user yep moisture is an issue. One of the original found uses for it was battlefield wounds, drop it in and the water/blood cured it. Still gets used even now, some dumbass fed his fingertips into a mandolin a few years ago and in casualty they glued my fingertips 🤣

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Happy new year Stan thanks for sharing

[@samrodian919]

It's fascinating watching that Stan, thank you for showing us a Turcite installation. I think this may be the only one on KZbin. That stuff look so easy to scrape compared to cast iron. I bet it's pretty pricy though! How little can you order, say if you're only doing a small lathe of a 36" bed? And does it come in different thicknesses? Great video. This one is going to be a KZbin Classic I'm sure! Happy New Year to you and yours Stan from Sam in the UK

[@elanman608]

only the second time I have seen turcite fitted fascinating. Bye the way does the British ringtone mean the food is coming from the UK.

[@Engineering_Science]

How did you put the turcite for the v ways?

[@19672701]

Can you use the same table lubrication or does it take something special? Great video,would love to try it.

[@SuperAWaC]

You can use the same lube

[@glennstasse5698]

How well does Turcite wear compared to ground cast iron?

[@AlmostMachining]

Good ground and hardened cast iron on trucite is a good way surface. To just answer your question it wears much faster in the wrong conditions.

[@paradiselost9946]

friend comes over with a guillotine in a box that hes found... wtf am i going to do with this? put on shelf. in three weeks ive now used it twenty times... lol. very handy for cutting this stuff :) and copper/brass shim. all that stuff... then a scraper/razor blade to trim excess off after epoxy has set. never had an issue using any old hi-strength epoxy. always lets go off the turcite first... it is TEFLON after all...

[@iancraig1951]

Could you explain to this old bloke on the south coast of west oz---what is this product..regards E

[@ShadonHKW]

Try this mtsandtg.com/turcite-slydway-material

[@jeffflanagan2814]

@ShadonHKW Where is the best place to purchase Turcite?

[@ShadonHKW]

mtsandtg.com/turcite-slydway-material

[@bcbloc02]

Well I guess that block test indicated you need to do the other axis now

[@ShadonHKW]

I'm doing a follow up to get that straightened out.

[@ban80]

Does anyone ever make replacement chromed strips vs replacing them with turcite

[@ShadonHKW]

Not that I could find.

[@steveaukes4770]

There's this KZbin channel I subscribe too that has an affiliate link for some gloves that come highly recommend. Darklight or something.

[@ShadonHKW]

Keeps that damn blue dye from soaking into your skin

[@danrabenhorst2549]

very informative enjoyed a lot

[@RoyMeraki]

you applied turcite on the wrong side...

[@spencertoolandgrind]

So, you don’t Flake, at all?? Don’t you need some oil pockets.

[@bobhudson6659]

The low spots are the oil pockets.

[@richardellis3141]

cool