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@lich109Ай бұрын
What's fun about the Land Ship is that in-universe it's stupid. The book makes it a point that the engineer who delivered the sales pitch did something remarkable by not laughing during his presentation.
@oriusnexАй бұрын
Seems too effective for something so stupid, frankly. It should probably be much more unwieldy at least.
@jester3443Ай бұрын
If its stupid but works, is it still stupid?@oriusnex
@lich109Ай бұрын
@@oriusnex It is unwieldy, its turning speed sucks when you want it to go fast, making it go fast lasts for a while so it wastes a lot of time heading in a direction you don't want, and if it's not going fast it won't do such well at running people over or escaping them.
@muguly4591Ай бұрын
@oriusnex couldn't it have enchantments that make it lighter, less top-heavy or more torque?
@GutsOfRiviaАй бұрын
@@oriusnex A lot of real world stupid ideas worked when you least expect it. There is a reason that the saying "its just crazy enough to work" exists.
@JesentraАй бұрын
No need to apologize for the land battles, I love and miss them on your channel! Thanks for another great show!
@TuanHoang-zy7ofАй бұрын
Khorne just cant catch a break. Yesterday I saw bloodthirster and fury getting kited by thunderbarge. Today mino and dog kited by boatboy lol
@IcewolfnectorАй бұрын
It just is so hard for khorne to catch that mobile shooting stuff, especially when that stuff has so much mass and abilities that give it a massive speed boost on top. I just wish they would at least give Skullcrushers a +5 in speed so they could catch such units a bit better. Heck even the new Nurgle chavalry is 75 speed, which is 13 speed faster than them...
@LuzikArbuzik77Ай бұрын
Khorne should be THE best melee faction. Its the only thing they have after all.
@TuanHoang-zy7ofАй бұрын
@@LuzikArbuzik77 nah fam the only thing they do now is replacing High Elf as universal punch bag
@MultiGamer20211Ай бұрын
@@Icewolfnector Skullcrushers being slower than Rot Knights is insulting lmao. What a shitty faction.
@animewarrior3Ай бұрын
Good.
@michaellaramee1965Ай бұрын
I love the vast majority of your content but my absolute hard favourite is when you pull out Karl Franz to play. Just something about the Emperor that justs the matchs 20% cooler
@TheAshHeritorАй бұрын
I love the influx of land battles. I understand it's rough for competitive tournaments, but for casual ones, and random games, I think I much prefer it. It's easier to keep track of everything, and I feel a little bit more connection to the specific units (since what you have is what you have, there's no bringing in replacements or unsummoning to heal). I wish the game offered a hybrid battle-type, where it was basically land battle but with the ability to very sparingly call in reinforcements (to prevent losing to a counterbuild outright).
@majormoolah5056Ай бұрын
The rational part of my brain is saying that the Landship has to be the dumbest unit ever. Rest of my brain is making me pump my fist and yell SIGMAAAAR :D
@jannikgluckert8501Ай бұрын
the only thing better than gunpowder, is gunpowder on wheels! By Sigmar, why didn't we think of this sooner?
@cameronroy2129Ай бұрын
We did ... it was the war wagon
@Nikolas584228 күн бұрын
no it's battle ship on land with wheels
@TequilaSunsetVidsАй бұрын
Looks like Khorne got a lot of cost decreases on their frontline infantry so that's nice for them.
They're next up for DLC, they'll get their time in the sun
@williammitchell6254Ай бұрын
@@olanordmann2743 LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO
@bruuuuuuuuhhhhАй бұрын
@@fuchsmichael93or it'll be Slaanesh next
@Redwall2306Ай бұрын
finally karl franz is stronger than an old grandma
@jakemocci3953Ай бұрын
The landship story always reminds me of raytheon/ge when they pitch white elephants to our politicians.
@gazpachosam1368Ай бұрын
Ah yes, the legendary confrontation between Palpatine and Palpatine
@ssale86Ай бұрын
That Land Ship with proper micro is indeed scary. Nice to see a large unit that isn't a meme!
@pjadtron9415Ай бұрын
Khorne really need some love, they are so dog shit right now. Hopefully the next DLC includes them.
@CallioNyxАй бұрын
Unfortunately it's one more before it's Khorne's turn. They definitely need some TLC.
@HoobastompАй бұрын
@@CallioNyx On the bright side, that might be the last DLC released for TWWIII, so if they get some overpowered unit there, they might remain broken S-tier for the rest of time.
@LunarasАй бұрын
Boris + theodore + a basic wizard with doom and darkness. -30 something leadership
@spartnmarcen5110Ай бұрын
I'm very curious to see how the Greenskins are going to deal with the new Empire and Dwarf units.
@NeonNoodleNexusАй бұрын
I see the landship and thunderbarge being broken in campaign in unintended ways, simply because there's no way the AI is smart enough to deal with things like this. Its just gonna pull units all over the place.
@Khablam85Ай бұрын
Love all your vids Turin!
@oxidatedintuition5877Ай бұрын
Can’t wait for your tabletop channel!
@MegaNever2010Ай бұрын
Have you tried the Nuln Ironsides yet? And if so, how do they compare to regular handgunners? It seems a fairly debated topic, with them having 30 fewer models, but much increased stats.
@matthiasdecker6877Ай бұрын
They will beat chaos dwarf fireglavies in straight shoot out due to high accuracy and fast reload, they completely dominated streltsi, probably the best handgun units in the game if released with current stats
@lich109Ай бұрын
Turin came down on the side of them being weak. It was in the stream before this video.
@N0ahfaceАй бұрын
Seem like they're going to be no brainer in campaign but won't be very useful in mp. Since in mp you have to do a lot more repositioning and spell dodging, you won't benefit much from their ability that boosts their stats after standing still so you'd basically just be paying for extra armor on your handgunners
@michaelblevins1651Ай бұрын
Here’s to hoping that Khorne Gets much needed love in a DLC
@DrDark0Ай бұрын
Each of the Chaos Gods are slated for update with each successive DLC, Tzeentch and Nurgle got theirs, I think Slaanesh is supposed to be next, sadly Khorne is last, but that does mean that when they finally do get updated, they are probably going to stomp on all of the early bloomers.
@GutsOfRiviaАй бұрын
I couldnt see it too clearly this game but dose Bruckner have unque animations on his Demigryph?
@christopherhayes1369Ай бұрын
Ah Karl got the 1k! Hope they shout out Turin in patch notes!
@thibautl334Ай бұрын
I wish they went a different route, every damn combat lord has around 7000 hp and 500 WS. He would be more unique as a statesman with better army-wide support but only average duelist.
@cameronbreeze4029Ай бұрын
@@thibautl334 But that's not who Karl Franz is though.
@thibautl334Ай бұрын
@@cameronbreeze4029 well depends on the edition :) he used to be portrayed as a courageous statesman with occasional bursts of ghal maraz but ended up as good as any top fighter iirv
@aersla1731Ай бұрын
Can't wait to see some tournaments, so far the dlc is looking solid.
@redsalamander9999Ай бұрын
7:55 Warhammer was and is at its best when it has a sense of humour about itself. The perfect balance between the grimdark and bleakness of the setting combined with the over the top nonsense and ridiculous units and situations.
@rubric-eo5yjАй бұрын
man skullcrushers need to be changed to something like bear riders or ogre crushers instead of being a unit stuck in between regular cavalry and monstrous ones
@IcewolfnectorАй бұрын
Especially since Khorne's melee strenght is supposed to make up for the lack of magic and good ranged. They really should feel more elite than now
@lonk9183Ай бұрын
Turin as long as the battles are glorious they can be any kind, land or domination whichever you like!!
@rollnycgaming2279Ай бұрын
Its nice to see the Emperor of Man FINALLY get a much-needed stats update to keep him in line with the power creep.
@ArseguardianАй бұрын
Dude the fire rate on that land ship is just.. Gorgeous!
@byronmcdonald1291Ай бұрын
it seems like the outriders are all shooting just above the heads of what they're aiming at, hopefully that gets fixed at some point
@D_A_D_6 күн бұрын
I played this matchup on the other foot the other day and it felt like there was literally no counterplay to double boat. If you brought in stuff to chase them, you couldn't chase the rifles that were shooting your chasers. I brought in an exalted hero with the potion of toughness to chase stuff but he got laser beamed by Elspeth's breath weapon. I knew he would but figured I'd heal him up and he'd have wasted one of her breath attacks. Except he routed after taking the hit and ran completely off the battlefield even though I was healing him and he wasn't in combat. Kinda bullshit if you ask me.
@turinRTS6 күн бұрын
Yeah, we've banned landships in our events
@seanduarte5989Ай бұрын
So glad to see the return of the traditional land battles! Hope we continue to see both on the channel.
@thibautl334Ай бұрын
can we have a vangheist revenge vs landship camera shot next
@Wanderer-nw2soАй бұрын
Did the outriders with grenade launchers change at all?
@florians9949Ай бұрын
What do you mean Age of Sigmare lacks the craziness of old school Warhammer? They have a faction of steampunk flying pirates with one of their leader having guns in his moustaches and a top hat incrusted in his armour.
@NRSGuardianАй бұрын
Turin was saying that Warhammer tends to take their craziness from real life craziness, so it seems a bit more grounded, whereas Age of Sigmar just goes full on crazy with little in the way of real world grounding.
@Nikolas584228 күн бұрын
Age of Sigmar is high fantasy that wannabe Warhammer 40k
@stuntman083Ай бұрын
Franz has anti-large now?? I don't think he had that before
@turinRTSАй бұрын
His item gives him it, only on activation
@KasaazАй бұрын
Are the shooting changes universal? Just wondering about Vampire Coast now.
@Jordan-ob7nzАй бұрын
Being able to use healing magic on machinery category units like the Landship feels kinda wack.
@Crase198625 күн бұрын
What's up with Karl having Ghal Maraz and Reikland Runefang abilities at the same time? I thought he had to pick one.
@BoredHighAdmiralАй бұрын
Any hope for Looted Land Ships? My boy Grimgor needs a mount… We just need to rename Full Power! to The Big Red Button! and add a quick splash dirt, blood and pointy sticks…
@HollyclownАй бұрын
That landship is a menace.
@TheRotbringerАй бұрын
I want to see how these big new weapons function in domination play, but land battles are always rad too.
@turinRTSАй бұрын
Soon!
@darthplagueis13Ай бұрын
Another game, another day of the new Outriders failing to have any effect whatsoever except wasting a bunch of points. I think at this point, Pistoleers are just always better than the default Outriders. They may technically have worse ap and less range, but they can actually skirmish freely (whereas Outriders have to turn around which gives their opponents way too much time to catch up) and they just deal better damage. Outriders only ever seem to hit like a tenth of their shots and those shots basically just tickle the enemy.
@alexcyr4149Ай бұрын
Oh hell yeah! Bring on the Franz!
@CFX992Ай бұрын
Khorne really needs some milk
@googlespyingonmeАй бұрын
Delicious Warhammer 3 battle and Turins sexy voice. Just what I needed. :O
@HorusHeresy1982Ай бұрын
Outrider accuracy is so jank now.
@prospero7849Ай бұрын
Glorious, that is all.
@FoogleBoogleАй бұрын
drive by landships 😭 we neeed a doomstack
@healinglight333Ай бұрын
Summon the Elector Counts! 😃
@R3GARnatorАй бұрын
So now the Empire has a chariot to smush Dwarfs with.
@sandercohen9712Ай бұрын
The reworked outriders look worse than before, I don't know what you see in them. They have less range now, have lower accuracy and are just as difficult to use and don't have the damage output to consider them a high-risk high-reward unit. Pistoliers for their cost would have been significantly better in this game, and that's saying a lot for all of the armor Khorne had on the field. War wagons are still going to be better, despite them receiving an accuracy, speed and armor nerf. Though the landship covers the same role now. Jury is out on Theodor as well. Between Elspeth, steam tanks and land ships the empire is going on a tight budget for another SE to deploy. -4LD is nice for leadership bombing, but if you bring him alongside Boris, it means you also need to fork over more points for a caster. Boris with burning head caster is already a very strong combo, and the extra -4LD on Theodor may not be worth the extra points. Landship looks very strong to me. I felt like Khorne had some options against it, had he deployed more minos GW and hunted the thing with Valkia. At most I foresee it being undercosted by a bit. But it could be that there's an initial shock value to the unit, and once players adapt to it it could just be balanced out of the box.
@anthonylittle666Ай бұрын
It's a goofy ass unit but I love it. It doesn't seem egregiously busted like the thunder barge at least.
@jaredkronk4614Ай бұрын
Why only land battle no domination games?
@turinRTSАй бұрын
No dom players in early build
@DraconasАй бұрын
Every DLC it seems Khorne falls further behind in power
@DavisJ-ln6fwАй бұрын
His time will come
@inxiАй бұрын
Landship and other similar single entity massive hp pool shooting platforms are silly. They don't lose effectiveness nearly as much as a cannon or wagons would, since they don't lose models and can keep shooting nonstop if you can't finish them off. And they get insane synergy from heals due to no lost models and big hp pool. Just super hard to balance IMO and super lame to play into.
@leonardbrazil5497Ай бұрын
I know they don’t really need it but would be cool if they added griffins to the empires base roster. The orcs now have wyverns so I feel like a griffin isn’t really out of the question, even if individually there not that good, for fluff purposes tho it does add abit.
@Sleepingdruid37Ай бұрын
omg yes. For High Elves too. And Wood Elves! Wood Elf griffons would be awesome.
@leonardbrazil5497Ай бұрын
@@Sleepingdruid37 well high eleven while it would look cool don’t really need them, they already have the 3 types of dragons to fill that roll. And we’ll wood elves don’t have griffins unless they use the amber griffin.
@Sleepingdruid37Ай бұрын
@@leonardbrazil5497 I just want them for the aesthetic XD Even if they go on extended roster only.
@lich109Ай бұрын
For fluff purposes there's no way they could possibly have unridden Griffons. The Empire does not have any way of getting the beasts to cooperate without a rider, and any rider is going to be somebody important by virtue of being a rider. Also for fluff purposes, there have been times in which Orcs have used Feral, unridden Wyverns (most notably with Gorbad Ironclaw), however I do not recall a single time in which the Empire ever did the same with Griffons.
@Sleepingdruid37Ай бұрын
@@lich109 In the case of high elves, there are some siege maps like Gaean Vale, where there are a bunch of griffons flying around some towers but not part of the battle. idk if they would aid in the fight, according to lore, but it would be so cool to be able to call on them for help XD
@Muminus2Ай бұрын
Sigmar bless!
@user-nk4he3kg4fАй бұрын
Deathclaw is still too small lol
@flowkeyOffАй бұрын
Imagine they release ossiarchs.... imagine..
@gorborkАй бұрын
A win against khorne means nothing, just a sad faction. SKARBRAND NEEDS GOREFEAST!!!!
@darkagerush3098Ай бұрын
Give rotting leviathans the gunboat treatment!!!
@tomatoesofdoomАй бұрын
I'd be highly surprised if Vampire Coast or Tomb Kings are ever touched again
@lich109Ай бұрын
Rotting leviathans are a unit on the tabletop, they're probably not going to touch them because making them into a psuedo-Land Ship would go against their original design.
@lutherabel2618Ай бұрын
Demigryph Knights didn't get any love?
@turinRTSАй бұрын
Same as before!
@ZashzilaАй бұрын
I wish woc had the same build variety. It feels like all of the marked units didn't add much.
@hieuphungminh6690Ай бұрын
The full power ability needs to be nerfed across all factions
@FoogleBoogleАй бұрын
khorne needs ranged units. Besides the one meh cannon
@lich109Ай бұрын
That would go against Khorne's theme.
@FoogleBoogleАй бұрын
@@lich109 maybe but i don't see why there couldn't be ranged. Demons can throw, many many great ideas can be made up. Beastmen have range, even nurgle has some ranged. Idk or care tbh but i just think it would be great
@lich109Ай бұрын
@@FoogleBoogle It can't be ranged because it goes against Khorne's theme. It's a little hard to prove yourself worthy in combat if you shoot somebody from afar, since that only demonstrates you were too cowardly to fight them face to face and prove you are better. Even the cannons in the lore are meant to attack first, slaughter their enemies in combat, and then shoot skulls after defeating, consuming, and melting down their enemies.
@HargroviusАй бұрын
I feel like the big war machines in this DLC are OP.
@efraim3364Ай бұрын
against good AP ranged units it melts quickly
@PetterwassАй бұрын
@@efraim3364 Not everyone have good ranged AP units
@efraim3364Ай бұрын
@@Petterwass yeah Vampire Counts gonna suck wind
@lutherabel2618Ай бұрын
Good.
@lich109Ай бұрын
@@efraim3364 VC have Blood Knights to kill it.
@KhorgosKhulАй бұрын
Weakest faction vs one of the most op ones.
@Ray-tx2lsАй бұрын
15K views in 6 hours WE BACK BOIS
@actionjohnny3926Ай бұрын
Khorne really feeling like a rock bottom faction after this update. Their roster is so limited and they're not even that good in melee comparative to their cost. Sad times for the red boys.
@DavisJ-ln6fwАй бұрын
His time will come
@darumanu9276Ай бұрын
a bit sad that karl franz finally got buffed but he still isnt relaly worth taking
@lich109Ай бұрын
Why do you think he isn't worth taking?
@darumanu9276Ай бұрын
@@lich109 because boris also got buffed and the new LL caster lord is out shining him
@lich109Ай бұрын
@@darumanu9276 Except Elspeth isn't, Karl has massive buffs she has no access to that not only make him a way better fighter and support piece than Elspeth, but he also costs less, and he can take a Life Wizard whereas Elspeth is not going to get anywhere near her healing cap. If Karl hits his healing cap, then he's going to have way more HP in one game than she does.
@ArhatuАй бұрын
Ouriders are useless in this version as far as I can see.
@DavisJ-ln6fwАй бұрын
Out riders are freaking god tier . What the heck are you on about ?
@ArhatuАй бұрын
@@DavisJ-ln6fw They are only good at hitting empty spaces in this version. Check yourself.
@stealthsquirrel4900Ай бұрын
Man Karl's stats are weak sauce compared to Elspeth's. Here we are begging for a HP buff so you cant mistake a terror causing duelist for a generic foot-lord, meanwhile the new lord, with death magic, has higher weapon strength, health, and melee defense than Karl Franz. Bruh
@lich109Ай бұрын
Yet she dies faster than Karl does to something like Azhag and a Feral Wyvern which she cannot outduel, and Karl can, thanks to his buffs (you didn't seem to factor those in for some reason), and that's before we consider the fact that with Elspeth you will not be healing her fully since using a Life Wizard with her is very inefficient.
@stealthsquirrel4900Ай бұрын
@@lich109 Regardless of the importance/power of ghal maraz, stand your ground, and reikland rune fang, I think a wizard should have weaker stats than a melee lord, even if Elspeth has a dragon. I never said Elspeth can beat melee opponents that could best Franz. The stat disparity just makes me laugh is all, but it doesn't make Karl Franz weak in melee.
@darthplagueis13Ай бұрын
Karl can absolutely mess Elspeth up. I've seen her lose to an unranked lord, a wizard with no spells and the Tattersouls in a campaign battle. Dragons look big and spooky but honestly, it's just a very big target for ranged units to shoot at. Not to mention, Karl obviously gets some heavy duty combat steroids whereas Elspeth only really gets the lore of Death and her limited use life leech skill. Also, Griffons have much better animations and are way better at pushing through units where Dragons are prone to get pinned down. Of course, if you don't field the dragon (which you might not even want in every match-up), it's not even a contest, she's basically just a regular-ass wizard with a bit of ap.
@lich109Ай бұрын
@@stealthsquirrel4900 It would make no sense if she was weaker while on the dragon. The whole point is that the dragon is the one doing the fighting, and they should be very strong, because they're dragons.
@lovebus00Ай бұрын
Theodore Brukner, Boris Todrbinger, Bright wizard or another morale nuking lore. Toss in an "under fire" debuff from shitty archers and nothing will stay to fight. It would waste greenskins.
@Wanderer-nw2soАй бұрын
And how much does the normal land ship cost? Because people have been here complaining about oh no, it's super overpowered. When I wonder if they're going to balance it by either it's price or if it's going to be an artillery or ap missile magnet so dwarves will be be able to defeat them quite easily. And I would say the same for the Empire against the thunderbarge as any great AP shooting should be able to deal with the barge easily. I know the hellfire volley guns certainly will take it down, Especially with the new accuracy buff from the new Lord and hero option And mercurial shot from the engineer can certainly do something. And lastly, the new gold wizard could probably also help destroy it by lowering its armor and buffing up other units to help take it down.
@lich109Ай бұрын
Land Ship is fine, it's the air ship that's overpowered.
@Wanderer-nw2soАй бұрын
@@lich109 maybe they could have the bomb drops as an active ability same as the other flying gyrocopters. Because I think where they're being overpowered is them nuking the front line with unlimited bombs. So if you make it an ability when completely stopped so they'd have to choose when to use them and give infantry at least some time to dodge from big burst damage.
@darthplagueis13Ай бұрын
I think I heard someone mention it being 2300 points, but I might be misremembering.
@joshmilner4864Ай бұрын
Khorne is in such a bad place. I dont think a slaughterbrute or any missing units would even help much. Wraith/skull bringers could be cool but dono if GW is going to allow them.
@PosdnoidАй бұрын
I wish wood elf cavalry would get some buffs. Such a cool faction but most the mobile units are just so weak or expensive compared to infantry that they’re not worth bringing
@Mr.Anderson__Ай бұрын
So, they buff Franz's HP to 6,836, as a legendary lord, yet the Sorcerer-Prophet sitting on his Bale Taurus has 8,266 HP, a pistol, a good lore of magic, and he beats Karl's ass in a 1v1. Nice Balance CA.
@kluasvt828Ай бұрын
I do believe you are missing one important factor Their cost differences
@Wanderer-nw2soАй бұрын
But again, Franz is not gonna fight the prophet alone and probably by the time franz has to fight him the bale Taurus will probably be a pincushion for the empires range units and Some spells would massively Help Franz stay in the fight too. Meanwhile, the sorcerer prophet is likely by himself with his forces tied down with the empires or getting disrupted with cavalry and steam tanks. There's a massive difference with Franz who could bring to his army compared to the sorcerer who has to carry the game on his back as if he dies the dwarfs essentially lose. But If Franz Dies it is a big blow, but not as much as it would be to the chaos dwarfs.
@lich109Ай бұрын
That's how it should be. Karl is a politician first, a general second, and a warrior third. There are matchups in which he should lose, and he definitely should not have HP on par with Chaos Dwarf lords.
@Mr.Anderson__Ай бұрын
@@kluasvt828 your right. The sorcerer prophet is cheaper.
@Mr.Anderson__Ай бұрын
@@lich109 why not? He is on a Griffon. I am not really advocating for more hp for Franz, but less for mages on mounts. No caster lord should be able to beat an equally priced melee lord in a fight. It just doesn't make sense.
@Beorg63Ай бұрын
God Khorne is so bad. Both blood and skull crushers should be around 200 less gold, have 70 speed and better MD. Nurgle just has better infantry even before this DLC, and now with the DLC Nurgle arguably has better cav along with one of the best magic lores. And to top it off, the mark of Khorne gives like -5 melee defence to all their mortals. Khorne could at least have better and cheaper infantry in exchange for no range and no magic.
@asiatravel2010Ай бұрын
Press like if you cannot afford to play Warhammer Total War 3 anymore because the number of DLCs at the price they charge make playing leaderboard prohibitive.
@user-uk3zn9ix9zАй бұрын
Landship is pretty much better than toad dragon in all reguards, speed, durability, mass, damage in and out of melee...the bias of Dev's against Nurgle in it's own feature dlc is insane
@decay79Ай бұрын
The new content seems so broken it's just stupid.. The more that is shown the less hope i have for the upcoming DLC..
@deadlyydude5522Ай бұрын
this is some of the best content CA have released, but sure dude
@lich109Ай бұрын
The only thing broken in the new content is the Thunderbarge, everything else is great.
@ButterwichtelАй бұрын
Turin, your audio is very low compared to other channels.
@PosdnoidАй бұрын
You mean battle sounds rather than his voice/commentary? Coz his voice audio is very high/clear