Turkey Hunting Patterns. A simple trick to get prime TSS patterns. How to sight in a reflex sight.

A stoeger m3020 gets a few upgrades for this upcoming turkey season.
An in depth guide how to sight in a burris fast fire 3 reflex sight, and how to polish a shotgun barrel. Apex and federal TSS shot.
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#TSS #turkeypattern#turkeyshotgun

[@bryancoulter1032]

I do the same thing but I use Flitz . And I put a old choke tube in it to save the threads in my barrel .Thanks

[@TheJonesn]

You removed your chole...what about the threads? Wouldn't it be better to put a cylinder bore choke in there to protect the threads? Or leave the choke in to clean it up?

[@TheNaturalCalling]

With the fine steel wool and slow drill speeds, I have never found the threads to be damaged. On the contrary, chokes screwed in easier because the threads were deep cleaned In the process. Hope this helps!

[@mikeenos4040]

Yes been doing this for years on shotgun chambers, especially if your having eject problems ,on cheaper shotguns they come from the factory with a non polished chamber to keep cost down skipping this step. If you notice on high-end shotguns they have a mirror finish in the chamber and barrel. Also if your shooting cheap target low brass they sometimes get sticky in the chamber after firing, this polishing helps that. But be careful on chrome lined barrels with the steel wool, chrome is thin and if done to long you could break threw the chrome coating, remember your just polishing, and with the drill don't let it get to hot. If your doing an old steel barrel that not chromed lined and has some pitting from rust you can put Fitz polishing compound on the steel wool and get nice and shiny... also leave your choke tube in so you don't damage the threads in the barrel. I worked with an old gunsmith years ago and we done this a lot you be surprised of how many people just don't clean there guns and let rust take over. We had a doctor customer one time who just left his Browning A5 in the duck blind until next season, crazy but true and that was a job to clean that one and if it rusted beyond repair he just buy another and leave it at the duck blind untill next year.. oh well it just money right! Anyway good video.

[@bbrad628]

I haven’t yet put a single pellet in breast meat; only neck and head. I sight my shotgun a little high so the bottom half of the pattern is hitting neck and head. Works great.

[@aaronsicard73]

Your choke is blowing the pattern out on the apex load and federal tss love a more restricted choke try a 550 with the federal or a 565 with the apex.

[@Struttinhoyt88]

^^^ this right here. I bet even a .570 would make them straight #9 do work.

[@joshsinglefooter]

​@@Struttinhoyt88primos tight wad.

[@chrismcneil5543]

Using the drill & steel wool was brilliant.

[@TheNaturalCalling]

Has worked very well for me in the past, hope it helps!

[@kykrazy6050]

Love that you're using a big target. So many folks shoot at the turkey head target and say "my pattern sucks" when in all actuality it may be a great pattern ,their POI may be off from the POA.

[@whitemountainbucktrackers2499]

Great video Caleb! Like the drill/brush/steel wool trick!

[@ronschriner1894]

great video. only thing i seen was you didnt tell people to put a choke back in before cleaning the bore. i know it sounds dumb but we all know some people need all the help they can get.

[@ninjagodzilla6402]

Exellent tip.fine stuff there.i beleive i missed a bird last year due to a dirty barrel.i only use my turkey gun 2 weeks out of the year.i did not properly clean it before i stored it away & did not patern it before i took it out i shoot a winchester xx 3&1/2" #4 & missed a bird at 50 yrds in a wide open area.😩. Im going out today & cleaning & pattering this shotgun & im not gonna take that chance this season.great video partner.stay safe out there & good huntin! From arkansas.

[@User-nx7rs]

Have you ever tried a jag? Use that with a patch and make sure it's really tight in the bore so it squeaks and you will be surprised.

[@raybobkowalski2154]

That black ring in your barrel is your forcing cone,send it to a gun smith! And see what a difference it makes taking it out I'm a turkey Hunter trust me better pattern & less recoil

[@kykrazy6050]

There's really no need to polish a chrome lined barrel, just deep clean it.

[@flintridge9839]

What mount did you use for the Burris FF? Thanks for your videos.

[@ThePatriotParadox]

What a sweet Stoger man, and both patterns, especially the Federal it on point at 40!!!! What kind of Federal shells are those again???

[@lakeywilder7144]

Where are you located in Arkansas my son is in Cherry Valley .

[@coryfrederick11]

Won’t the steel wool mess with your choke tube threads?

[@TheNaturalCalling]

I have never had any damage to them. As a matter of fact it cleaned some grit out of there. I wouldn't advise holding the drill there for an overly long time or damage may possibly occur. You can also slide in a choke tube in if you are concerned about it. I have never had an issue though. Thank you for watching.

[@wizardofahhhs759]

Doesn't Stoeger chrome line their barrels? If so polishing isn't necessary.

[@number8wirenz360]

Ya'll need to get yourself a Jag for the patch.

[@nicholasnajar2539]

That hoppes lubricating oil in the little orange bottle is good stuff but watch out if you’re going to use it on your gun in real cold weather. I had my shotgun out with my brother the other day we were testing turkey loads and it snowed and iced and was 12degrees out. After 15 minutes it started getting sticky, after 30 it froze up the lube and was sticking the action so bad it wouldn’t fully cycle even 3 1/2inch goose loads that I know cycle it everytime. But it is very slick and good stuff when it ain’t froze lol

[@TheNaturalCalling]

Thanks for the info!

[@nicholasnajar2539]

@@TheNaturalCalling no problem just putting it out there cause when you need your gun to work you need it to work. And those early morning duck hunts and sometimes turkey hunts get wicked cold. Keep up the good work on the channel man you do a great job. Especially like the turkey hunts and your 12gauge pattern test it was a good one👍🏻 maybe a cheap lead load compared vid just to see compared to longbeard (nitro turkey, federal strut shok, Kent turkey)??

[@bryancoulter1032]

You need a sumtoy mount on that gun it will look alot cleaner I really don't like that big screw sticking out the side

[@Ryan_YoungUSA]

Great video, does the stoeger m3020 need drilled out for red dot sight

[@gregphillips1998]

Traditionally #9 shot was used for clay pigeons. I’m surprised at the lethality of the small shot. I used to like to use #9 shot in my .410 when I dove hunted as a kid because it gave me more shot to hit the birds. In the old days people that turkey hunted with a .410 used #7-1/2 shot. Worked very good. What’s the benefit of the tungsten over lead?

[@TheNaturalCalling]

So the tungsten is alot heavier than the lead. Tungsten is 18 gr/cc compared to lead being 11 gr/cc. In turn, the tungsten is hitting so much harder than lead that it adds a huge benefit in lethality.

[@gregphillips1998]

@@TheNaturalCalling thanks for the reply.

[@TheNaturalCalling]

@@gregphillips1998 Thank you for checking out the video, and welcome you back to the channel anytime! Happy hunting!

[@jonah-n8l]

#9 tungsten hits as hard as #4 lead cuz of the density of the tungsten

[@joshsinglefooter]

More more more! Testing please! You didn't even get to the LB XR! That 8-10 blend is crazy!

[@realreadneck250]

a lot more expensive too.

[@kykrazy6050]

I have this gun myself. What combos (choke/load) have you had the best luck with?

[@rexwilliams1108]

would have loved to seen you put the Apex 9s up along side the TSS 9s .

[@nicmeador8866]

You talking about the fed tss #9 against the apex tss #9?

[@-B_G-]

Tss is the kind of shot material, not a brand. Apex, Federal, Foxtrot, etc are brands that use tungsten super shot in their loads.

[@rexwilliams1108]

@@-B_G- I know it's made by federal .

[@rexwilliams1108]

I shot tss#9

[@rexwilliams1108]

Shoot.

[@yourmomma2995]

have you noticed if you take the barrel off to clean it or what ever and re-install it, will the receiver mounted sight still be dead on?

[@TheNaturalCalling]

That is a great question! I have tested it a couple times and have never found my gun to be off the mark. However until you test it for yourself it will likely always be in the back of your mind. Thanks for watching!

[@thereaper4396]

If you’d send that barrel to Rob Roberts Custom Gun Works and get that forcing cone lengthened you would REALLY see a difference in your pattern.

[@TheNaturalCalling]

I love Robs work. I've got another video about that coming later on. This video here is just showing a couple things you can do yourself that will help tremendously. Thanks for watching!

[@jayman5628]

So which one of those shells kill the turkey more dead?

[@joshsinglefooter]

Its about that patterning time!

[@TheNaturalCalling]

I will make sure you get one. You are about to be voted #1Fan @Joshsinglefooter

[@joshsinglefooter]

@@TheNaturalCalling right on!!

[@boharris8179]

Nvr doubt a 870

[@boharris8179]

Im still shootin a 835 though. My uncle hates it but I love the trash talk

[@kalebestill5836]

@@boharris8179 good because they are absolute trash

[@boharris8179]

@@kalebestill5836 n which one u sayin is trash?

[@thereaper4396]

Deadliest gun on earth. Nothing has killed more I don’t think.

[@boharris8179]

@@kalebestill5836 And if your saying an 870 is trash I agree with you about the new stuff but the older ones are among the best pump shotguns ever made. If you have one ounce of real knowledge about firearms you would agree

[@DEVILDOG1964]

I THINK YOUR NUTS THE CHOKE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF CREATING A PATTERN!! SOMER CRUD HURTS NOTHING WITH A PLASTIC SHOT CUP. COME ON MAN!! CLEAN IS COOL BUT NOT THD BIG BDEALM YOUR MAKING OF IT!

[@stevechmiel6016]

Lol kudos to you for all the extra work, but all that was totally unnecessary!! Your bore was cleaned fully once you used the bore cleaner and brush. The drill and steel wool was totally unnecessary imo. Then after that you used the bore snake 🐍 😂 after first and second shot, your bore is fowled up again.

[@TheNaturalCalling]

Not the fouling like the water from duck hunting that had created some rust up around the threads and a couple other spots. This speeds up the process tremendously.

[@TheNaturalCalling]

I also stated that the wire brush and patches is all most people will need.

[@justinpoore2938]

That is not a tight pattern! Thats a absolute covered piece of paper

[@freedomfirst5420]

Maybe gain a few fps, also.😃

[@awells_7318]

Also you can use a mop instead of putting patches on a brush. It works great

[@charliebelle6693]

.555 is probably to tight for the Stoeger, I got a great pattern with a .573 and new Boss 2oz load of #9's.

[@chrisgodfrey7329]

This is a great and positive video that teaches a few new tricks. It also brings us back to the fundamental importance of a clean weapon.

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

As any Trap shooter knows, bzrrels can become fouled with plastic residue from repeated firing of plastic wads over time. They generally use stainless steel Tornado (spiral) bore brushes to remove that. The problem I have with boe snakes is that as they age and become dirty you're dragging old gunk and grit through a barrel you're attempting to clean. Never made any sense to me.

[@mrcutt215]

they can be washed😁

[@justicefall1917]

I never thought about using steel wool to polish the barrel. Thanks for the great information and thanks for sharing!!

[@danielsmith8659]

This process is not designed for chrome line barrels . Which he has . I’m not saying you can’t .... but the chrome lining is super hard . It allows you run a barrel much cleaner for much longer . The chrome lining isn’t prone to shot scarring near as badly as a steel barrel. In his circumstance where the gun was used as a waterfowl gun and shot a whole whole lot, I understand why he did it

[@dustinfuller5031]

I wasn't let down! Glad to see your still making videos. Amazing work!

[@ekimosurac1]

Did you make that gun vice/box ?

[@bgdesignandsolutions]

Cool. Now I know how to get rid of my old Christmas wrapping paper.

[@larryjistel3018]

Good info... cleaning a barrel should take around 25 to 35 minutes...

[@Jimleben]

The Federal 8-10 TSS are absolutely the shell for my gun which is a Tristar 20 ga viper with a carlson LB choke. I have patterned them out to 50 with very a dense pattern. Likewise these shells performed equally as well in my Beretta A400 20 gauge(stolen out of my truck) last year. it is unreal how these shells perform.

[@rexwilliams1108]

this is a great video sir . very informative !

[@TheNaturalCalling]

Thanks! Welcome to the channel!

[@mtnhunter9194]

Did u have any prob with drilling an tapping that gun for ff3?

[@njzeigler4370]

I polished the bore and chamber on my Mossberg 500 w/ a 28" vent rib cut down to 20" and it is measurably more accurate now with rifles slugs and 00. The amount and directionality of drag affecting performance inside even a cylinder bore was surprising!

[@njzeigler4370]

The method I used for polishing was to dip a chamber mop in Mother's Mag put that on a carbon fiber rod and chucked it into a power drill, took about 20 minutes of polish/inspect/repeat.

[@ralphmueller467]

Wonder what Tru Glow bead that is on the front and what size?

[@derekreece4523]

I use this same technique to polish out imperfections on collets for CNC machine. Put some diamond compound on the steel wool to get out stubborn marks. It will make it shine like a mirror.

[@TheNaturalCalling]

Thanks for that tip, and thanks for watching! Welcome to the channel.

[@ryanharkins9383]

What about a bore snake? I just take the bore snake with bore cleaner on the front end and gun oil on the back end.

[@TheNaturalCalling]

90% of the time that's all you'll ever need. Thanks for watching!

[@ryanharkins9383]

@NatCall I try to keep my franchi as clean as possible as it is the best shotgun I have ever had. How ever I use it for everything. Typically when I get home I will run the snake through. I was just wondering if that would suffice or I'd this was a 100% necessary step or if it only needs to be done when terribly dirty

[@TheNaturalCalling]

@@ryanharkins9383 Sounds like you keep good maintenance. You should be fine. There is a difference between cleaning and polishing however. Your gun barrel is likely very clean and you shouldn't have any issues, but polishing might take it to the next level if you aren't satisfied with how your pattern currently looks.

[@ryanharkins9383]

@NatCall I'll give it a shot can't hurt I don't recon.

[@ryanharkins9383]

@NatCall thank you for the info there needs to be more people that give good informative videos like this. Very good detail thanks.

[@karsonmoore4261]

Well after turkey season I take the turkey choke out and just shoot it every once in a while to keep it shooting good

[@joshsinglefooter]

Love the...... America side note!