Turn me UP and SMILE ATC SCM50 Passive HiFi Speakers P2 Amp REVIEW

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Pursuit Perfect System

Pursuit Perfect System

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@Paul-dr8tq
@Paul-dr8tq 4 жыл бұрын
Have 50ASLTs and I couldn't be happier. Beautiful sounding and beautiful looking speaker, especially in Rosewood
@blzebub2
@blzebub2 3 жыл бұрын
I ran SCM100ASL for about ten years before upgrading to active tower 150s around eight years ago. By far the best speakers I've ever heard. Huge fan.
@muse-mech-moda
@muse-mech-moda 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see ATC getting some KZbin love! Lovely review :)
@Openeyesopenheart42
@Openeyesopenheart42 4 жыл бұрын
ATC are my endgame, I have admired and coveted for many years. As an aussie have always been very proud of Billy Woodman
@ProjectOverseer
@ProjectOverseer 4 жыл бұрын
You're going to be blown away by the active setup 👍
@michaelwilliams4086
@michaelwilliams4086 4 жыл бұрын
So glad to see you have had chance to review these English designed and built speakers. I would love to own a pair of ATC speakers. Their attention to detail in the manufacturing is really inspiring. They take the copper wire for winding the speaker coils and run it through a bespoke machine to slightly flatten it so that the wound coils have a higher density of copper to reduce the air gaps between the coils. The domed mid-range speakers seem to give them such an advantage in reproducing the realistic midrange and spectacular vocals. I wonder if, once converted to active speakers, they will be even more impressive at low listening volumes. You are such a lucky lad having those on loan. It must be like Santa has visited you early Merry Christmas
@wildcat1065
@wildcat1065 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, got the ATC bug Terry. After trying some Wilsons and Magicos at home I visited ATC with a friend who wanted to hear some 40's and ended up buying a pair of active 50 Towers myself! I had them less than a year when a pair of active 150 anniversary towers came up second hand and I couldn't resist. I run them off of an Audio Research valve pre which adds spaciousness and a bit of warmth. Job done. Atc's sound nothing like the vision I once had in my head, I thought they were going to be detailed and clinical being studio monitors but that couldn't be further from the truth.
@allthingsaudio3840
@allthingsaudio3840 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Which ARC pre did you use?
@wildcat1065
@wildcat1065 3 жыл бұрын
@@allthingsaudio3840 . I had a used reference 3 that I upgraded to a ref 6.
@allthingsaudio3840
@allthingsaudio3840 3 жыл бұрын
@@wildcat1065 I'll bet the difference was pretty big. I had a ref3 as well but prefered my system without a pre and just used the digital controls on the bluesound node2i.
@wildcat1065
@wildcat1065 3 жыл бұрын
@@allthingsaudio3840 . I can understand that. I have tried myself but always end up back with an active pre, there just seems to be something missing with no pre for me.
@chewy560
@chewy560 3 жыл бұрын
I also have arc pre (with ref 75se). Would like to try active but am concerned impedance of speakers is only quoted as 10k ohms. Do you notice any issues? For example sloppy bass? I don’t think my power amp would be powerful enough to drive the passive version.
@PerfDayToday
@PerfDayToday 3 жыл бұрын
Been going on 15 yrs w. my SCM50ASLT’s.Never looked back, and oh.. still have my Meridian M20 actives too. Nice detailed review! Thxs!
@mevdinc
@mevdinc 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you and well done for this wonderful and accurate review of the ATC system. I agree with every word. I am a lucky and a very happy owner of the special ATC EL 150 Actives (with the P6 amplifier and the ATC tweeter). In fact, I have been listening to ATC active speakers since 1998 and the actives do sound better than the passive counterparts, due to better integration and matching of drivers and electronics. I will be looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the active ATCs.
@jamessheard5498
@jamessheard5498 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. About 25 years ago I went to a hifi show in Manchester at the Plaza I think. But Manta Acoustics I think they were called had a room and to this day I’ve never heard anything like it. It was incredible 🤯 They had so big ATC speakers with enough Naim to rival the factory. They’d got them on that much isolation the speakers were closer to the ceiling than my ears. Camouflage netting everywhere, neon lights etc Not your usual room but man it was something else I’d love to know the music they’d been playing as it’s stuck in my head now but it rocked like nothing else So fast and transparent.
@bigblueocean
@bigblueocean 4 жыл бұрын
That would be Mana acoustics. They made metal and glass isolation platforms who's effect multiplied as you stacked them up..... Hence the height of the ATCs
@ivorproblem1332
@ivorproblem1332 4 жыл бұрын
ATC are the best speakers and amps. I sold them in my hifi shop and nothing comes close for the money.
@Stelios.Posantzis
@Stelios.Posantzis 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed nothing does... They're such a bargain if you happen to possess an oil rig or two.
@fizywig
@fizywig 4 ай бұрын
Are the actives always better than passive version?
@bayard1332
@bayard1332 4 жыл бұрын
You lucky fellow... this range of ATC ( with their classic midrange dome and new tweeter) are the speakers I would actually lust for...
@kentonkirkpatrick5225
@kentonkirkpatrick5225 2 жыл бұрын
Heard The ATCs at this year's (2022) AXPONA in Chicago, IL. Just beautiful music. Excellent review, really professional. Thanks
@anthonytait3428
@anthonytait3428 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Terry. Look forward to the follow up video! I had the pleasure of listening to the active 150's with ATC amplification and the Naim 555 streamer for a couple of hours and it was hands down the best system I've had the pleasure of listening to! Definitely something to aspire too!
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Anthony, nice story man and I know how that goes - lovely setup there man congrats on that
@stevejohncrowe
@stevejohncrowe 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting review, Terry. I look forward to your review of the active system, that should be something else.
@roymindmybusiness6908
@roymindmybusiness6908 4 жыл бұрын
Great review Terry 16 minutes in you hit the nail on the head the ATC scm50 sound bloody brilliant up loud -rock music ,Floyd etc just is fantastic - I sold mine 15 years ago-I believe the new tweeter is killer - mates swear it is a huge improvement. If you own it give Iron Butterfly a bash - I never really got it until blasting it on the 50 . I thought they sounded brilliant with big power -KSA 250 , big Electrocompaniet etc. If you know anyone who will lend you some EC Nemo monoblocs it will show a clear improvement in sound quality .
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roy
@robfrancis8690
@robfrancis8690 2 жыл бұрын
Great description. These ATC speakers are high on the list of my dream systems to try out.
@ac81017
@ac81017 4 жыл бұрын
I´ve had over a couple hundred pairs of speakers including classics such as Infinity IRS Beta, Apogee Grand studio to name a few. Most modern highend speakers sound big and airy, but a monitor is more true to the music. You can´t go wrong with active ATC and a tube pre amp from Primaluna, ARC, or Mcintosh.
@matldn2697
@matldn2697 4 жыл бұрын
I want a Apogee Scintilla, but finding one is so difficult.
@FB-gq7ns
@FB-gq7ns 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think the MA8950 is a good match for these speakers?
@562mjohnson
@562mjohnson 7 ай бұрын
I run a couple ATC SCM40 passives. Powered by NAIM UNITY NOVA. I love them.
@stonefree1911
@stonefree1911 4 жыл бұрын
The criminally under-used soft-dome midrange.... I have Wharfedale EVO 4.2's and their "special sauce" is definitely the way they pair the dome mid with the AMT tweeter. I know soft-dome mids can start to distort at very high volume with hard rock music (but really, it has to be LOUD), but for 99.9% of listening...they are fabulous.
@dougleydorite
@dougleydorite 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say criminally underused. However, ATC’s midrange drivers is heavier than most speakers LF driver
@rocco036
@rocco036 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. I'm very tempted by the active versions of these. Really looking forward to your thoughts on those. For me they are eye wateringly expensive, over my budget & a bit beyond! But... sell my speakers, my monos & save, it would almost be liberating to say these are my speakers & power amps, take the cable question out of it, & that's the end of it. Then any future upgrades/ tweaks would be preamp or source.
@kjbunnyboiler
@kjbunnyboiler 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been awaiting an ATC review from you for ages and looking forward to the active review. Why no live music in this review or are you saving that for the passive / active comparison?
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
There will be a sound demo video coming, I have already done the sound recordings and shot the speaking part of the video - its just not made yet as it all takes hours to put together - these speakers and amp have had me listening to more music than usual
@kjbunnyboiler
@kjbunnyboiler 4 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Excellent, keep up the great work👍. The fact your listening more speaks volumes really. The active crossovers and tri amp pack will lift them even higher. You could even reduce your box count🤣. I’m sure you’ll keep the Kefs for any amp comparisons required. Speak nicely to ATC about a pair if active 40s I’m sure they’ll impress as well.
@ProjectOverseer
@ProjectOverseer 4 жыл бұрын
Superb mid field speakers 👍
@Romulus980
@Romulus980 4 жыл бұрын
This sounded more like a special prayer for ATC, he has found a new religion.....
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Haha not really just very impressed you can check out why here kzbin.info/www/bejne/boWnZaaEZad5ptk
@rvbsoundfactory
@rvbsoundfactory 4 жыл бұрын
Great and very interesting review! You made them sound amazing. That are a few atc reviews/sound on KZbin with similar atc speakers. You have to be a real serious audiofile to buy these.. A Serious industrial design. The amp is beautiful. Cant wait for your sound demo.. Request so (Dance & Chamber music.) ;-) Just wondering when will you get some ProAc in ? Stay safe.
@kubjohal
@kubjohal 4 жыл бұрын
Great review / summary! So are these going to replace your kef ref 3? 🙂 Looking forward to the active version review. Cheers,
@FOH3663
@FOH3663 4 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. Damn, you're a box checking machine! Finally ... it's quite refreshing to encounter an enthusiast/reviewer KZbin'r (possessing what appears to be a well sorted space) that incorporates measurements, Dirac, rock-n-roll sensibilities, w/dance club aural memory references, diffusion, absorption... my goodness brother, if I hadn't been married to my lovely wife of 33years, I'd be examining my options;) Seriously, I'm digging this. I appreciate the content and I'll spend some time exploring the balance of it. You're a box checking machine! (as an aside, I'm particularly interested in the subjective description you shared about the space, the un-fatiguing space between you and the music)
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Great comments man haha and welcome
@yadah678
@yadah678 4 жыл бұрын
Terry your awesome 👏 you’re going to make me broke with a smile on my face 👏❤️
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha great comments Anthony thanks man
@jenogilvie-grant2636
@jenogilvie-grant2636 4 жыл бұрын
Top job 👌
@danielmarshall4587
@danielmarshall4587 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, very good insight.
@umitr
@umitr 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👏👏👏
@bricedoan6695
@bricedoan6695 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to audition the top of the line SCM150 LE with P6 amplifier.
@SlicedBread1001
@SlicedBread1001 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Would be interesting to see a review of the scm40 or scm40a too
@johnpetty9310
@johnpetty9310 2 жыл бұрын
The MID RANGE for sure !!!!!
@MartinPearman
@MartinPearman 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait fella. ATC are (for me at least) and end game speaker.
@davidrivera2165
@davidrivera2165 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting observations, and high praise Terry. What was your listening/recording distance from the soeakers? I ask because it seems, from your comments, that they are near to midfield speakers. I look forward to a sound demo, and a future review of the active version. Thanks & Merry Christmas to you and your family Terry.
@paulmasella1616
@paulmasella1616 4 жыл бұрын
Do you ever review any Vandersteen products?
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't as of yet, but maybe one day
@robertocalvo934
@robertocalvo934 4 жыл бұрын
One of my dream speakers. Wish I had the monies 😭😭
@lextr3110
@lextr3110 4 жыл бұрын
you clearly need primacoustics max traps style of bass trap.. could you review atc scm12 pro ?
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
I have 46 Acoustics Panels in the room inc 6 Soffit Traps from GIK about 4 of their Monster Traps, Tri Traps and more. Bass is problematic in every room - hence why I manage it and the treatment keeps the decay times low so the bass is catwalk models ass tight :)
@briancampbell7712
@briancampbell7712 11 ай бұрын
very nice! would i be able to get rid of my amps if i use this active speaker?...Would I be able to just go strait from the pre amp to the speaker with a balanced xlr cable...?
@MistaMin
@MistaMin 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks! 💯 🙌🏽
@harryburnett7086
@harryburnett7086 2 жыл бұрын
So would be a end game combo for a casual audiophile and what pre amp you up to on this
@showingthelies8296
@showingthelies8296 3 жыл бұрын
I use Ruark Excalibur for making music with a daw. I also plug my synth into my Sim Audio Moon Evolution top of the range system, sounds very good, unflappable at any level. If your in Devon come listen to mine, it will be like in a studio session looking through the studio glass.
@troyahpak3719
@troyahpak3719 3 жыл бұрын
Where's the link to the active review?
@billarmstrong5568
@billarmstrong5568 4 жыл бұрын
My daily drivers for over a decade... Love 'em! And if you want to push the boat out go active with a Mark Levinson, Vitus or Gryphon pre. End game stuff👌 Thx for the review & happy holidays when they arrive.
@Paul-dr8tq
@Paul-dr8tq 4 жыл бұрын
CH Precision L1 Pre is better than all of those. Demoed a handful of pre amps (Vitus and Gryphon), L1 wiped the floor with them
@billarmstrong5568
@billarmstrong5568 4 жыл бұрын
@@Paul-dr8tq Interesting... I'm sure it's great. I've tried out a lot over the years and these 3 were my own favs. I currently use a Levinson.
@eddiebaby22
@eddiebaby22 4 жыл бұрын
Now you are starting to listen to some great speakers.
@imosolar
@imosolar 4 жыл бұрын
How do they compare to Wilson audio speakers at similar price?
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
There isn't really a comparative Wilson for this money - the first larger 3 way from Wilson is the Yvette they nearly £30k. I suppose the SabrinaX is the closest at £22k - makes these seem like a bargain :)
@tggonzales7971
@tggonzales7971 4 жыл бұрын
The ATC’s I agree have the best midrange in the business. Unfortunately for the money you spend on a pair of these, there are simply too many others that outperform them in the bass response.
@gokhanersan8561
@gokhanersan8561 2 жыл бұрын
Seems to be the case. ATC engineers are missing the point : we want to “enjoy” the music.
@doktordavada4570
@doktordavada4570 9 ай бұрын
Any idea what jumper cables are used?
@stephenclark5218
@stephenclark5218 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Terry i am buying a pair of snm 50 and a pre/power atc amps. I m thinking about running 2× p2 for extra headroom I listen big band jazz ay fairly high volume.Im looking to ease the load on a single power amp. I realise it doesn't give me more power and also there's diminishing returns but I don't care about that. Last system yes or no. Ps don't want active Steve (Australia)
@oldearado8351
@oldearado8351 Ай бұрын
Any comments on the ability of my Denon anniversary a110 amp to drive these?
@robertofrizziero8881
@robertofrizziero8881 3 жыл бұрын
What about atc scm50sl with pass int 250?
@jacquelinelacan
@jacquelinelacan 4 жыл бұрын
So Adam Saxton from Guy In a Cube has an alter ego as an brit ginger? Awesome! Nothing but respect from me!
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha that is quite a close likeness
@ianjohnhorwood2605
@ianjohnhorwood2605 4 жыл бұрын
The atc scm50 sound better triamped, as there is more of everything, better detail, dynamics, slam and control, but with a smoother and calmer delivery at the same time. The 50asl has 200 watts just for the bass alone, then 100 watts for mids, 50 watts for the treble, and because they are active, they don't consume the same amount of ultimate power needed that passive versions do. Driving the 50 passives with just 200 watts for all 3 drive units watts does not go that far in a big 3 way passive crossover loudspeaker like the 50 passives have. They would sound far better with 3 p1 power amplifiers than with just the one p2 driving the whole 3 drive units, which all af this just perfect sense. If you bought the passive 50's and 3 atc power amps to control the drive units properly for loud levels, they would end up been a more expensive outlay than a pair of the 50 active super linear. It would come down to what you actually hear and perceive as better sound quality, as to what sounds better in the end, triamped passive or active 3 way.
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Ian noone will watch my next video if you give them all the info now hahah :)
@ianjohnhorwood2605
@ianjohnhorwood2605 4 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem sorry Terry, doubt it will make much difference though, this is a loudspeaker a lot are interested in, haha, including my self.
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
@@ianjohnhorwood2605 cheers Ian when it comes time to do the review I will get all my info from your post haha it seemed pretty spot on hope your well man and thanks
@bricedoan6695
@bricedoan6695 4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree ATC are known to sound better active and can even compete with much more expensive passive speakers.
@simplereef4854
@simplereef4854 Жыл бұрын
it would be nice to compare the SCM50 against the SCM40
@andrewaajohnson7584
@andrewaajohnson7584 3 жыл бұрын
As they are now used ( second hand) can we do a deal ? Please
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 3 жыл бұрын
Dont ask Dont get :)
@rawritstayl0r866
@rawritstayl0r866 4 жыл бұрын
do you know the difference between the bookshelf standmount and the floor standing version?
@FlowithdaGo
@FlowithdaGo 4 жыл бұрын
How does the treble stack up against Piega Coax 511?
@fredfungalspore
@fredfungalspore 3 жыл бұрын
I would like a review on the Yamaha NS 5000 To compare against the similar looking ATC SCM 50 it would be very interesting.
@MsCorbacho
@MsCorbacho 2 жыл бұрын
I think this would be do good with powerful tube amplifiers verging on the warm side of neutral .
@MsCorbacho
@MsCorbacho 2 жыл бұрын
So good ......
@Stelios.Posantzis
@Stelios.Posantzis 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be looking forward to the comparison between the active and passive versions with one caveat though: ATC calibrate/tune their speakers in the factory and subject them to a full test before shipping - will this pair also be subjected to the same rigorous procedure after their conversion? Also, conversion implies there will be no direct A-to-B comparison, right?
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 3 жыл бұрын
You want these two videos kzbin.info/www/bejne/npzIepSkfNh-j6M for the talking and this one for the sound demo kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6STiH-vbMl0os0
@Stelios.Posantzis
@Stelios.Posantzis 3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Haha! Thanks! I thought this review was done this December!
@obscurazone
@obscurazone 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I am considering these or a pair of Harbeth M40.3 XD. Do you have any experience with Harbeth speakers/thoughts? Thanks! :)
@cybergod77
@cybergod77 4 жыл бұрын
Love the sound from ATC speakers. wonder how it compares to the Spendor classic 100
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Yep that would be an interesting comparison
@ssspppify
@ssspppify 4 жыл бұрын
had Spendor SP100R and now SCM50ASL. Both sound neat, clean, airy. Better transparence and speed for ATC
@tjoakiemhwa8840
@tjoakiemhwa8840 2 жыл бұрын
@@ssspppify But Spendor are more musical and warmer. I have Spendor SP100R² and ATC SCM150.
@SEVENDUST32000
@SEVENDUST32000 2 жыл бұрын
is the sound stage laid back or forward?
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 2 жыл бұрын
Atc is a little bit if both, relatively easy going but more forward than some
@ultimatetruth2044
@ultimatetruth2044 4 жыл бұрын
Out of interest, what preamplifiers did you try with the SCM50's? I reckon an EAR valve pre, balanced connected to the P2 could work well. Also, for those with a slimmer available budget, the ATC SCM19 + ATC P1 combination is well worth considering; it definitely shares the ATC family sound. Personally, I prefer the sound of the 19 over the floor standing 40. There is something just right about a large ATC monitor on a sturdy stand positioned at the correct height.
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I didn't use a dedicated Preamp - I used the Chord Hugo TT2 as a DAC and Pre - I am keen to explore preamps in 2021 if I all goes well and I get some time and the chance to play with a few
@ultimatetruth2044
@ultimatetruth2044 4 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Yes, a few preamplifier reviews would be great. All things being equal, I still prefer a separate pre-power amplifier combination over an integrated one. Given their neutrality, the ATC pairing would make for great review tools in this respect. An affordable valve preamplifier that appears to be well regarded by a number of US-based reviewers is the Doge 8 Clarity valve pre. It would be great to hear your take on this unit. The Doge DAC is also very well regarded. It might be worth contacting them. I'm sure they'd be keen to work with a UK based reviewer. Just a thought.
@ssspppify
@ssspppify 3 жыл бұрын
I also found scm19 better than scm40. I am running scm50asl with ATC's own SCA2 - no integrated circuits, fully balanced, relays on pressured gas etc. - all for the ultimate transparence. Checked
@naddy8871
@naddy8871 Жыл бұрын
Hello,i have a Mark Levinson532h two channel amplifier and would like to know which model ATC speakers will match ,heard that ATC are power hungry speakers to get their best to sing..Pls advise..
@juststuff5216
@juststuff5216 3 жыл бұрын
16:05​ - Negatives Let's be honest, at this *price* level, and given the *drivers* used, ATC have never been the bass depth monsters that one might expect given those two aspects. I still think it's better to have it and not need it, rather than to need it and not have it!
@arande3
@arande3 3 жыл бұрын
In the sterling sound mastering room I believe they combine the scm110 with dual atc subwoofers, Ted says combined with the new mastering room it's the best low end he has heard.
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 3 жыл бұрын
ATC makes one of the greatest speakers for mids and super tight bass and never shouty like focal and kef metal tweets. even their crossover are exceptionally designed and they make cabinets from a true professional. What more can you ask for? NOTHING. Apart from a totem i really cant think of anything that can beat them.
@mbracerh
@mbracerh 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have to play loud to get bass out of them ?? and can they play Heavy metal without being harsh
@willbrink
@willbrink 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the best known brands rely on hype, marketing, and latest greatest "cutting edge" materials. ATC relies on best possible engineering and quality build and destroy brands like B&W, Focal, etc for same or less $. I prefer the ATC SMC 19s with a sub I have over the B&W 802Ds I had, at far less cost to the B&Ws. The SCM50's must be outstanding. I'd probably still get the SCM40A's myself.
@mbracerh
@mbracerh 2 жыл бұрын
My english is not so good, but as i undersand the Luxman l 509x will not be big enoug for driving these peakers ??
@JingoLoBa57
@JingoLoBa57 4 жыл бұрын
No video feed, only audio? Vid came back in the last minute only.
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that's a weird one, must be a KZbin glitch happening for you, maybe try again later
@my_wood
@my_wood 4 жыл бұрын
can you talk about if we got a same budget is it better to get active ? it is cheaper and more "easy "to drive , and you can get a better pre amp for active
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Of course I will be thinking about that for sure and will talk about it
@eddiebaby22
@eddiebaby22 4 жыл бұрын
OMG! Synergy is everything! A great speaker and a great amplifier can sound terrible. A well match good speaker and good amplifier can sound incredible. Matching is everything.
@eddiebaby22
@eddiebaby22 4 жыл бұрын
@HiFihobby Man yes, which is why we have to rely on matching equipment well. A lot of amps and especially speakers have sound signatures. And the bigger one for speakers is how they interact with the room. Even if all speakers were (which they are not) designed neutral, all rooms effect the sound greatly.
@mikepitt2357
@mikepitt2357 3 жыл бұрын
Have ATC stopped making these ?
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 3 жыл бұрын
Unlikely they have been making them for many years
@Campbell1.
@Campbell1. 4 жыл бұрын
I would buy the Active version. Better still.
@Sam-ne9ns
@Sam-ne9ns 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. What's the price tag on the amp and speakers?
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Its in the first music break down - £9820 for the speakers £3625 for the P2 power amp
@Sam-ne9ns
@Sam-ne9ns 4 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thank you! Looking forward for the demo and further breakdown.
@johnsweda2999
@johnsweda2999 4 жыл бұрын
You don't know who the tweeters made by do you because it was seas and they went to design their own couple years back which tweeter is in that speaker?
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully someone will answer this for you as I am not sure John sorry dude
@johnsweda2999
@johnsweda2999 4 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem did you say there changing the crossover for active you can look then! Happy Christmas! got to get that audio note in now combo, you can get the speakers and amplifier for about £5,000 seems like a bargain. I'm curious to see what both system sound like compared to each other, the ATC you didn't say you get that sense of feeling the artist of in the room more like a recording? At shows with audio note they do a comparison with the live artists and a recording people saying can't tell the difference have you not seen that at the shows. What does the amplifier p2 sound like with your KEFs did you not try it why don't you try it on other speakers.?
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Yes a little bit if they are using the Cellist Vincent Bellanger, he has been at a lot of HiFi shows and I am pretty sure he is playing in the Audionote rooms. I haven't seen one of the recent demos to make any comment on it for you John - when you have itchs like this its one you have to scratch yourself anyway rather than take someone else word for it
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
I didnt really comment about artist playing in the room I just said the are monitor like in sound than some other speakers that try and create a bigger scene - that might be other factors too though man not necessarily the speakers but I always report on what I hear with how it sounds for me. Otherwise your into guess work
@johnsweda2999
@johnsweda2999 4 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I only play Vinyl see that would suit me down to the ground, well you can put a request in there's no harm you got to have some material for your show lol by the way volt make that mid-range driver as well
@glichasasha750
@glichasasha750 3 жыл бұрын
The reason they sound less special at lower volume is because they are 85db efficient. Try the 150s at 91db, huge difference in efficiency.
@soulfunkjazz
@soulfunkjazz 4 жыл бұрын
Very Good, unfortunately not at low volumes... I would rather get Grimm Ls1 or Audium comp 8 or pureaudioproject trio15
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
That is not really what I said, most speakers sound better when you turn them up, ones that don't, is normally because you cant turn them up which is a problem rather than a positive.
@vicg5323
@vicg5323 4 жыл бұрын
Not the speaker for me. Thank you for clearing this. I would love to demo but I want open sound stage.
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting point and its why next if I get my way and get some time I want to try a few different pre amps and see what effects they have because this could be down to me not using one
@Paul-dr8tq
@Paul-dr8tq 4 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem try the CH Precision L1 pre amp. You will be blown away with the 50 actives and this pre.
@geofflongford2008
@geofflongford2008 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff but the chipmunk music does let it down. Cheers.
@MrDante10no
@MrDante10no 4 жыл бұрын
For the blood money it requires, I not only expect it to sound good but to make me a breakfast in the morning, to clean the house during the day and to imitate prime Nicole Kidman when the lights go out. 🙂👍
@robertthurston6858
@robertthurston6858 3 жыл бұрын
Dream on, Your living in a Fantasy
@michaelwilliams4086
@michaelwilliams4086 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what difference would be made by fitting the Gaia Iso Acoustics isolation feet to the stands instead of the spikes? Maybe before they are made into active speakers as a comparison
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this too, but its a lot of work for me man, only so many hours in the day - if they were staying for a long time I think I would take it on but they might only be here for another week/10 days because of Christmas and COVID not sure.
@michaelwilliams4086
@michaelwilliams4086 4 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I hope that your inquisitiveness gets the better of you. I suspect that you/we will be amazed with the difference it makes. Do you think that ATC would believe that you had been snowed in and they can’t be picked up for a few weeks😉
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwilliams4086 i could just not answer the phone or the door... :)
@arthurwatts1680
@arthurwatts1680 4 жыл бұрын
Sure, but OTHER than the bass, mids and treble, what has ATC done for you lately ? ;)
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
They squashed one of my fingers when I was installing them and it hurt haha :)
@金久保宏一
@金久保宏一 2 жыл бұрын
自分自身はパッシヴタイプに変更した、SCMー200SLPTをオーダーして愛用しています。Wウーハァーシステムが最高です。シリアル№9&10で日本国では一組しか有りません。日本国ではATC製品の取り扱いが停止されて仕舞いましたので、とても残念です。
@crossocean5663
@crossocean5663 3 жыл бұрын
Hooked up a Hugo TY2 to the 50A and disappointed to say the least. See if Linn could do a better job.
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 3 жыл бұрын
Disappointed in what and what way?
@crossocean5663
@crossocean5663 3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem it sounds very metallic for a lack of a better word. It just sounds off. It sometimes even hurts my ears (low volume) Of course I do discount bad recordings. It’s almost like somethings missing somehow.
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 3 жыл бұрын
@@crossocean5663 that doesn't sound right what source are you using and how is it connected to the tt2
@crossocean5663
@crossocean5663 3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Mac mini with Roon through usb.
@chriswilliams6944
@chriswilliams6944 3 жыл бұрын
I have the SCM50 ASL Towers : just stunning and I won’t part with them !
@Davidkxf
@Davidkxf 3 жыл бұрын
Infinity used them for years
@rawritstayl0r866
@rawritstayl0r866 4 жыл бұрын
the active tower version the best
@vikinghasselo
@vikinghasselo 3 жыл бұрын
I like the looks of ATC! They look like serious speakers shall look in my opinion, not pretending to be anything else. The KEF's on the other hand....looks like shiny piece of modern kitchen appliances....or whatever, I don't know.....nah, not my taste at all..... +1 for the ATC!
@zorankalina4399
@zorankalina4399 Жыл бұрын
Have ATC SCM 40 and 7........including ATC P1 They nead a high volumes to sing beautifull. In my opinione....not for apartmants.....because , neighbours will not stand such a volumes. For houses👌
@Stelios.Posantzis
@Stelios.Posantzis 3 жыл бұрын
The major problem with ATC speakers is that you simply cannot live inside them: they simply lack all basic amenities that make modern life what it is and I dare say, they're not even comfortable. I'm sorry to point this out but, nope, even council flats offer much better value. [Edit: At the time I wrote this I thought the price of ATC's systems was 2 or 3 times higher than they actually are.]
@ralphholland1313
@ralphholland1313 4 жыл бұрын
Mate, wait until you try the SCM150s. I’ve lived with a pair for 15 years, so.. They’re partnered with an ARC Ref 40 pre. I’d bypass the SCM 100s though.
@markceci9896
@markceci9896 4 жыл бұрын
Not alot of hardware for $16k passive or $27k active. Look a 9 inch driver can only go so loud at 50 hz. I dont see a horn enclosure, so, yeah..it is limited in air movement. I'll take the Legacy Calibre or Classics and save 10k.
@ssspppify
@ssspppify 3 жыл бұрын
does the word 'midfield' means anything to you?
@markceci9896
@markceci9896 3 жыл бұрын
@@ssspppify I'm not sure what your point is. Do you want to discuss distance definitions, or are you implying that midfield listening makes for easier requirements? Regardless, they are super-expensive in my world. LOTS of competition at that price and much lower.
@kevinbeckenham3872
@kevinbeckenham3872 4 жыл бұрын
Lets hear sound man, less sale's crapp
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
For the sound demo you want this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/boWnZaaEZad5ptk all the info all the videos all listed and linked to
@i20010
@i20010 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention its a 13,000$ speaker.
@PursuitPerfectSystem
@PursuitPerfectSystem 4 жыл бұрын
The prices for both are in the first music break down
@k-doggy1762
@k-doggy1762 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they sound exceptional but they're also hideous to look at.
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