Turning a Bowl with a Faceplate and Waste Block: with Sam Angelo

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In my first video for the brand new year I will turn a small bowl from a dry piece of Cherry using only a faceplate and a glue block: NO Scroll chucks.
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[@lesliekidd9720]

Greetings! I am a 68 yearold "new turner," literally at the point of making shavings for my wife's chicken coop. I have a 1960's Craftsman lathe that came with the original spur chuck and face plate. I have seen several turners doing projects where they used waste blocks and a face plate instead of a chuck... yet I have never found a video showing how to actually install the waste block. Thank you for the helpful teaching!

[@craigbailey5060]

Thank you. I am getting back into woodworking after 30 years and this helped me to remember a lot.

[@danweaver4982]

Enjoy your work

[@randyjones2204]

Hey Sam, I've been turning for about 12 years now and I'm still learning, and your channel has a lot to do with it. Thanks for the great info over the years.

[@MikePeaceWoodturning]

Always good to get back to basics, Sam. There are probably thousands of woodworkers out there with a midi lathe and no chuck that can be inspired to turn a small bowl without one.

[@hotrodhog2170]

I just came here after watching your video on glue blocks Mike!

[@markb5441]

Great as always

[@mattfletcher12]

I always learn something from all of your videos. Thanks Sam for helping us rookies. Have a happy new year!

[@davemcleod7489]

Excellent clear and simple way of demonstrating a fascinating process

[@jonperley9722]

Great video! Just a little hack that My high school shop teacher taught me 50 years ago take a brown paper bag and cut out a circle the same diameter of the waste block put glue on both sides of the paper glueing it to the bowl bottom letting it get good and wet or saturated then glue on the glue block clamp it like you did with the tail stock after drying put on your face plate and you are good to go after turning your bowl leave on the head stock take a sharp chisel bevel side to the block and tap the chisel until the block come free from the bowl put a towel under the bowl on the lathe bed just in case the bowl comes off completely all my years I've only had a couple come off completely the rest are held on the bowl simply pry the block off then sand the bottom of the bowl and you are done! It sounds like a lot of work but it's simple and saves time and I have never had a bowl come off prematurely yet in 50 +years my shop teacher was a wonderful guy he taught me so much that I used my whole life as a retired contractor and cabinet maker having my own cabinet shop his past on information has served me well in Life thank you Harvey Leighton ! May you rest in peace Sir! PS don't recess the waste block glue the entire surface of it !

[@hughcorbett8957]

Thanks Sam. Going to try this out on my first bowl. Last time I used a lathe was in middle school. That's been quite awhile.

[@greatoutdoorsfortworth1599]

Thanks for the video. Always helpful to see an example before trying something new.

[@starhawke380]

Thanks for this one! What you have done is convince me to spend the money and buy the stupid scroll chuck... Probably a bowl gouge also, but Im just too lazy to keep them sharp...

[@perfectpitchtodd]

Hi sam, Todd from Idaho Falls. I really enjoy your videos, especially this one. I am always challenged when it comes to finishing the bottom side of a project. This was helpful.

[@PHIL_S]

Sam, Thanks for reminding me I could use double sided tape.

[@glencrandall7051]

Very well done Sam. Excellent demonstration of the use of face plates and waste blocks. And Cheryl was doing very well with the project she was working on. Looks like you are going to be double teaming us soon. Thank you for sharing. Have a great New year and stay healthy.

[@waynenelson8907]

And I see that scraper to me now where I am should be something I invest in. Thanks. Enjoy your videos.

[@wayhod1]

Thanx Sam and Happy New Year. Your solution will help me turn bowls. Your advice is always welcome at my house. Thank you for sharing.

[@GeraldJensen]

Good tutorial! I have found #12 sheet metal screws to be a good substitute for lag screws.

[@hotrodhog2170]

Very interesting. I only have one faceplate and no scroll chuck yet.

[@benjabens2058]

thanks sam,i learned again more of your video over waistbloks,best wishes in 2021 for you and yours!

[@pizzawarlord9232]

Another good and informative video. Thanks Sam

[@stephendonathan6782]

Great job explaining everything! Always a great video love watching! GOD BLESS!

[@davidqualls7651]

Well done. This will work for me in a lot of situations. Thanks.

[@billsharpes7607]

Thanks Sam Very helpful to a green turner.

[@waynenelson8907]

You make it look so easy. But with your expertise and years of turning that is how it should be. Today I tried my first bowl with a piece of box elder that was very wet. It looks like a bowl but I have to admit I hope I get better:)

[@carolriley8472]

Great lesson!

[@friendbrookmeadows]

Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Thank you for the tips.

[@tompalmer334]

Enjoyed the interesting info Sam

[@davidnoble3474]

Thanks well done David

[@ajmagic111]

Suggestion Smear a small amount of wax on screws before use to aid their removal

[@briangaffney422]

I like this & all the videos you make. I have seen thing I never used. Thanks & have a great New Year... Brian G.

[@danchittenden1614]

Enjoyed the video thanks!

[@jeanshort9973]

Great instruction. Thanks

[@jonathanstriden4846]

When you called your last video “notes from the turning shop”, was that a reference to “notes from the underground” by Dostoyevsky? I wouldn’t expect that reference in a woodworking video. Great video either way!

[@tkorkunckaya]

Thanks a lot

[@johnwallace4408]

Excellent video, Sam. This is the best face plate advice I have seen. One word of caution though, when tightening the lag screws with a drill driver; I always do the last of the tightening by hand to prevent strip-out. Happy New Year to Cheryl & you!

[@friendsonearth]

thanks good info, will try it

[@rogerdirkx.1679]

Sam, very helpful. I like the idea of using the extra face plates, I’ve struggled with leaving enough wood for tenons to finish my projects. Your way will take a little longer, but that’s OK, it gives you more options. Did you use pine for your waste blocks? That’s for all your videos. Roger D.

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Roger, thanks for watching my video. I don't believe I have any pine in my shop. I am sure this is poplar. I buy poplar in long, 2" thick planks. It is really cheap and last a long time. One more thing, I always use them in a cross-grain orientation. Sam

[@jackthompson8019]

Good education.

[@davidmorgan7522]

Another great learning video. Thanks Sam! Good to see Cheryle again.. Take care, Dave

[@hassanal-mosawi4235]

Happy new year to All

[@OakAthainNerin]

Great video but i think im just going to buy a chuck lol

[@tommartin3200]

Thanks Sam, lots more options out there. Love your videos, massive fan,(I really need to lose some weight).

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Ha Ha I'm a bit of a massive woodturner. Be well, Sam

[@craigritchie6670]

I was taught to glue the waste block to the workpiece with a sheet of newspaper between them. Then when you want to remove the block, you place a chisel at the joint and the paper splits. Some light sanding removes the paper residue from your work. Would this not work?

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

I am not a fan of this approach. Worst case......the paper does not allow for a good bond and the bowl separates from the waste block. I think the original intent was that the two pieces of wood would come apart easily. I think this is a better approach for a spindle. I will talk about this in my January Notes from the turning shop video. But a very important question. Thanks Sam

[@mitchellmanning7887]

Is the finish you used food safe? Thanks for sharing

[@DerekCadmus]

All finishes are food safe once cured. If you are looking for one that is food safe right out of the can, try shellac, Mahoney’s walnut oil, velvit oil or Odie’s oil. With the exception of shellac which is a surface finish, these are all polymerizing oil’s which dry in the wood vs something like mineral oil which would not dry at all and may leave a residue

[@kevincrews5875]

I was wondering if you could share the recipe of the finish. I am assuming it is all food safe after some drying time. Good video also

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

At 22:41 I have the recipe on the screen.......Sam

[@recycle343]

Thank you, need more tools .

[@rg3291]

Hi Sam....I may have missed it if you posted ...what are the proportions of the your finish?....thanks!

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

I did not mention that-but equal parts 1/4....each Sam

[@jonsayre9404]

Great video. I’m always learning from your videos. Question. What is your thoughts on using hot glue on small projects ?

[@tjraymer]

Yes I saw another video where a guy did a small plate using hot glue for the glue block but haven’t seen anyone else do it

[@bassrun101]

@@tjraymer Garry not Linda. Mike Waldt uses hot glue a lot. I believe Mike Peace does also. If you have a high temp glue gun and high temp glue sticks you should be fine. If you don't have a high temp gun I would check with one of the tool suppliers like Woodcraft, Woodturner's Wonders, Rockler or someone like that and they should have one that fills the bill. Having said that it's time I take my own advice. I have an older industrial unit by Parker that is going to die one of these days. It has started to leak where the stick goes into the heater. It now takes a very long time to get warmed up to the point where it's useable.

[@gregj2647]

Good video and great explanation on use of faceplate. Tape is cheap but $30 for shipping?

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Greg, I paid $9 for shipping. Yea, I would not pay $30 for shipping. That is a big problem with EBAY. Here is the link to my purchase. www.ebay.com/itm/402487876874 I will mention this in my next "Notes" video. I have paid upwards of $30 for ONE role of tape. So I was happy with $12. I will check to see if this link is correct. Thanks Sam

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Yes this link is the purchase I made. Sam

[@MarklTucson]

Another very informative video. That cherry is beautiful as well, but then, cherry pretty much always is. One question: why guesstimate the diameter of the face plate when you have it right there to set the compass?

[@markthompson6860]

thank you very much

[@dickguggenheim2473]

Sam: I really like your big parting tool. Can you give me a reference for one like it? Thank, Dick/

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Dick, I went back and watched the video at the end. I am pretty sure it is a D Way partying tool very nice tool.

[@pjseiber2774]

Would you mind telling me the mix of the finish you used again. What percentage of each. Always enjoy your work

[@gened2768]

Could you not just glue the waste block onto your piece and then mount the faceplate eliminating having to use 2 faceplates. That way you only have to true up your turning once and still have enough access to round the bottom of your bowl.

[@NitFlickwick]

You need a way to flatten the blank for that to work. If you have a jointer or are comfortable with hand planes, it would definitely work.

[@kennethnielsen3864]

24th.

[@ditndunk]

Thought this was without a chuck?

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

OK you caught me- although at 23:29 into the video I did mention, apologetically, that I was using a scroll chuck with the crew center. Up to that point I used waste blocks and NOT a scroll chuck for this bowl. I believe I made my point that a bowl could be turned without using a scroll chuck. Thanks Sam

[@jimbeaver27]

You forgot the little detail on the side :)

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Is that a smiley face?

[@blocke2976]

Very informative! Could you share the recipe for the finish please?

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

At 22:38 I have the formula listed in the video......

[@blocke2976]

@@WYOMINGWOODTURNER I saw the ingredients, I was thinking of the amount of each ingredient. Is it equal portions?

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Yes. Equal parts. You can always alter the percentage you add for each of those ingredients. Sam

[@danieldoll4721]

The whole point was to watch how he glued it and what he used but he skipped over that whole part making this whole veido useless