Turning a cedar bowl on the Shopsmith

Eastern red cedar bowl. This was my third attempted bowl turn. There were some mistakes but it’s all in fun. Enjoy the video.

[@paulmarsh7868]

Beautiful cedar bowl. I do have a safety concern. The tool you use the most is a spindle roughing gouge. The tool you should be using is a bowl gouge. The bowl gouge has a deeply embedded shaft in the cutter handle. The spindle gouge has only a thin metal tang. The spindle gouge can break at the ferrel and injure you. Please switch tools for your safety.

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Thanks for the advice. Any help is appreciated. I’ll look at getting one. Thanks for watching.

[@flatearthfisherman7153]

@@johnnygsdiy1981 The bowl gouge is the tool you need kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGilm4WZiKmoqK8 Stuart Batty is the top turner in my opinion. This is one of the best to learn from.

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

@@flatearthfisherman7153 thanks for the referral. I’ve watched him before. I agree he is very knowledgeable. Thanks for watching.

[@flatearthfisherman7153]

@@johnnygsdiy1981 He’s bad ass with a bowl gouge. His father Allen Batty is/was bad ass with a skew.

[@williamkilburn898]

could also be used for yarn bowl for knitters

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Absolutely. Great suggestion. Thanks for watching.

[@stehlfamilyfarm6886]

I just bought a shop Smith bc it was practically being given away. I know nothing about lathes but I know shop smith's are a great machine. What is the name of the head that you hook to the bowl when carving the inside. I need one

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

It’s a nova g3. You will also need the adapter from the ShopSmith to the nova g3 head. Thanks for watching and be safe!

[@mattobrien3]

What is the attachment called that mounts to the bottom of the bowl in the second half of the video?

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Nova G3 from Amazon. If you have a ShopSmith it requires an additional adapter for it. Also an amazon purchase. I no longer own the ShopSmith so I’m not sure what the adapter is, but I kept the nova g3 it works on my newer lathe. I hope that helps

[@madmanwithaplan1826]

I would just like to remind everybody no gloves around the lathe

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Good tip. Thanks

[@nvmarv]

Where you get the end center device..looks to work better than shopsmiths

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Amazon $24.99 Ginode Heavy Duty Live Tailstock Center, 2 Morse Taper, Woodworking Tapered Turn Center, MT2 Live Center with 60 Degree Point丨60°MT2 Morse Taper

[@LONGWIND40]

Just purchased a used Mark V. Loved the results of your work. What model and where can I find that chuck?

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

It’s a nova g3. Amazon. you will also need the adapter also a Amazon purchase. I believe it’s a 1” to 5/8 adapter. If you search it on Amazon it pops right up. Thanks for watching! Good luck turning and be safe.

[@DiemenDesign]

Haven't seen anyone actually use a Shop Smith, pretty funky looking machine. Nice Bowl btw, though I should stress as others have, please don't use a Spindle Roughing Gouge on End Grain, would hate to find you got seriously hurt and it hadn't been mentioned. I too did it once on a Tasmanian Oak Bowl, and was lucky that the nasty catch I got only broke my tool rest. A Bowl Gouge is what you want for that kind of turning, happy to answer questions if you need advice.

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

The ShopSmith is an all in one tool. I’d have to say it works the best as a drill press. The other options are of average quality. I am a beginner on the bowl turning... obviously but I enjoy doing it and I’m looking at making a bowl gouge. They are pricey and I do this as a hobby. Thanks for the information and the view. I’ll keep you in mind for turning questions. I’m sure there will be many more to come!👍

[@DiemenDesign]

Let 'em rip, knowledge should be shared. Will be interesting to see that Gouge once you make it. I'm looking at bigger Gouges soon myself, like 3/4, or 5/8 as I have some large bowls for a client that I need to do.

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Diemen Design I’ve seen a few how-to’s, so I’m gonna try my luck at it. I’m gonna start off small and work my way up if everything works for me. Who knows how it will turn out. It’s probably gonna be my weekend project. Can you possibly get the dimensions for the bowl gouge? How deep the gouge goes into the handle? Thanks again for the input.

[@DiemenDesign]

Check Out Doug Thompson Tool's, esp, this page thompsonlathetools.com/product-category/handles/ about Handle Recommendations, these are the tools I'm looking at getting, there may be some idea's for flute types as well.

[@dellcornish]

Nice video, I wish my shop smith V would stay as stable as that when working on bigger pieces!!! I've just ordered some face plates that will go directly onto the spindle like yours - so here's hoping.

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Good luck to ya. It’s been a while since I’ve got to turn but I bought a lathe from a friend and I’ll be using it from here on. I just fell it’s a little bit safer than the ShopSmith. Good luck with your turning!

[@GeoffintheGarage]

Thanks for sharing this, the Shopsmith looks like a versatile tool, and that bowl looks great!

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

The ShopSmith has its pros and cons. This is a older model and some of the parts can’t be purchased anymore. But it’s an all around machine. Thanks for watching!

[@JohnSmith-w2b]

Watch the thickness

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Thanks for the tip. I’m a newbie!

[@mmelgadi]

You should not use a roughing gouge in bowl turning at all. It is too thin at the shaft to go across end grain.

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Yes, thank you I was made aware of that. I appreciate the concern. I have sense made a bowl gouge.

[@cMac6154]

Yet another great project. Very cool. Eagerly waiting for the next one.

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

c-mac Thanks my friend!

[@julietphillips1991]

Yes, I like! Put a Granny Smith apple in that gorgeous bowl for me!

[@bradwiebelhaus7065]

Is the live center a Shopsmith item?

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Yes the live center is a ShopSmith item. Be aware that some models of ShopSmith can not be purchased anymore. I own a mark V and they do not make certain attachments anymore. You can also find items through online companies also.

[@jimtalbott9535]

What’s the best chuck to use on a Shopsmith for bowl turning? Looking for opinions/experience.

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

I use the nova g3. It works good

[@roysrumblings6117]

How do you know when you are getting close to the bottom? What speed are you turning at? How is you shop smith set up for a real time sharpening wheel? roy

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

The tone changes when you get close to the bottom. I have blown a few bottoms out. I’m probably not the best for advice on that. I turn no faster that letter D on the ShopSmith. I think it’s about 900 rpm. I use the circular saw attachment with a 80 grit 8” sanding stone from Lowe’s. Thanks for watching!

[@TeamProsperity]

nice turn looks great. I have a Mark V I purchased in 1984 lol haven’t turned anything in years lol wanna get back to it but great job on the bowl

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Thanks. I recently sold my ShopSmith and picked up a delta lathe.

[@hunter270ful]

​@johnnygsdiy1981 what delta did you buy?

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

To be honest with you, I bought it from a friend whose dad had just passed away. It was 20 years old but I don’t have to move a belt around to adjust the speeds.

[@robertriggers5216]

How do you stop at for not jumping all over the place ?

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

First find the perfect center of the wood. Then you have to get it round and a little advice you want to take small cuts into the wood so it doesn’t bind up and go flying off the lathe.

[@michaelsell6928]

What chuck is that you used when you flipped the bowl and where can I get on?

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

It’s a nova g3. Amazon. If you have a ShopSmith you will also need the adapter also a Amazon purchase.

[@michaelsell6928]

@@johnnygsdiy1981 who makes the adaptor?

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

PSI Woodworking L5818 Lathe Headstock Spindle Adapter 5/8" Shopsmith to 1" x 8tpi

[@michaelsell6928]

@@johnnygsdiy1981 fantastic. Thanks for the info.

[@edthe1owapyr020]

What jingle of took rest you got

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

The tool rest was made in a previous video. It’s made from 3/4” or 5/8” cold rolled steel. I paid around $18 I believe. Thanks for watching!

[@edthe1owapyr020]

@@johnnygsdiy1981 I have no way of welding could I get you to make me one lol

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

@@edthe1owapyr020 shipping would ruin it for ya. You can get them on Amazon for about $25. Just make sure you get the correct diameter.

[@silverlady1118]

Nice looking bowl. Thank you for sharing

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Thanks for watching

[@akivameola2558]

Hey do you ever get the issue that yous shopsmith won't turn if you tighten the spindle lock too much? I'm the only one I know with a shopsmith and can't figure out the issue

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

No I haven’t had issues. That’s odd because of the way the quill locks internally. Unless the quill is busted inside. Mine is a simple machine and you can remove a few screws and see if there is anything broken internally.

[@arkansasboy45]

Can you show your setup of the grinding wheel?

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

I’ll try to make a short video of it . All I really did was use the saw blade fitting and attached it to a 8” grinding wheel from Lowes. I then attached it to the upper portion of the head where the bandsaw and other attachments would be connected at. If that helps before I get a video out.

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

I made a video for ya. I hope it works. It just posted on my channel JohnnyG’sDIY. Thanks for watching

[@arkansasboy45]

@@johnnygsdiy1981 Thanks a ton!!

[@johnbeltron8787]

Cedar is such a pain, nice job 👌.

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

I’ll be building with it only from here on out. That’s the 3rd time I’ve slung cedar off the lathe. Thanks for watching!

[@html9155]

Excelent

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Thanks!

[@andyweeks1783]

Nice Job!

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

thanks 👍👍

[@JK-qp4jy]

Epic!! Great Job.

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

Thanks! I appreciate your feedback!

[@JK-qp4jy]

@@johnnygsdiy1981 Have had my Shopsmith a little over 2 years and am looking to getting into turning. You are definitely an inspiration to do so.

[@johnnygsdiy1981]

@@JK-qp4jy thanks. Be careful. I’ve had a few pieces explode on me. Check out my advent candle holder. If you don’t use epoxy with your wood, don’t turn dry cracked wood💥!!!

[@JK-qp4jy]

@@johnnygsdiy1981 Thanks for the Tip!! I'm still in the Reid tutorial Shopsmith videos of learning. Starting with spindle turning until I'm totally comfortable with the tools and rest. Slow an Steady Wins the Race. My father always said "Learn a Trade Son. They can never take the knowledge away from you."