Turnovers doom Memphis as Morant, Jackson Jr. and the Grizzlies lose to the Rockets

[@tomas1565]

I have a few gripes with our teams new concept of offense & sub rotations. Pros include the offense scoring at an insane rate, shots being put up consistently, bench players contributing since they come in fresh & full of energy when the starters have been sprinting everywhere, & our pace outmatching our opponents effectively wearing them down. Cons include our team being gassed out, when a team consistently scores on us our pace is a detriment since it doesn’t allow us to refine our game in the halfcourt which in the playoffs we WILL need, allowing players who won’t be in the playoff rotation to consistently take away from a potential rhythm our starters & main bench players can get together, & I believe our pace leads to injuries a lot of times. I think it’s healthy to have a balance of both a fast pace & a more methodical pace to both slow the game down & get more of a playoff feel in halfcourt sets & also limit tear on our guys running at 110% a game. Idk, I know we’ll do good during the regular season, but our rotations & pace will be the end of us come playoff time. Also, we need to capitalize on this window for a championship we have now. OKC proved that they’re in a different league than everyone in the western conference outside of a healthy Mavs team. We need more halfcourt sets & to play a slower pace sometimes to better ready ourselves for playoff basketball.

[@iceburg3323]

How come the staff doesn't know this? Get a lead then control the pace will also cut down the turnovers smdh

[@dangeloquinn5878]

Offense looks amazing against non playoff teams and terrible against playoff teams!! Coaches need to swallow their pride and total dependency in their system and adjust the offense and rotations in big games!

[@brandoonf6962]

@@iceburg3323 bc they stuck on the european style offense which the oc used to win with more than once. But I agree with you 100%

[@Unconvinced1]

Taylor Jenkins better not let his wife meet Ime Udoka. We already know Jenkins folds under pressure and would have crumbled in Ime’s shoes

[@Unconvinced1]

Nah don’t pick on Ja, Bane needs all the blame if they are running an offense SPECIFICALLY to get him going. He is ruining the team and is NOT a star player

[@colbybrand5326]

😂 Bane is the only reason we won tonight.

[@colbybrand5326]

@@Unconvinced1 banes last 10 games: Points per game 21.3 Assists per game. 6.1 Rebounds per game 5.8 Steals per game 1.6 3point % 38.3% Fg % 51.1% Turnover per game 3.7 Ja Points per game 20.4 Assists per game. 5.4 Rebounds per game 3.6 Steals per game 0.8 3point % 29.2% Fg % 41.5% Turnover per game 4.4 Bane wins in every category SUBSTANTIALLY!!!! Points per game Bane + 0.9 Assists per game. Bane +0.7 Rebounds per game Bane + 2.2 Steals per game Bane + 0.8 3point % Bane +9.6% Fg % Bane + 9.6% Turnover per game Bane -0.7 So, I’ve kind of proved major Bane bias here. Dude is hooping, the last 10 games, A CLEAR #2 BEHIND JAREN, who is playing out of his mind. BANE IS DEFINITELY WORTH HIS CONTRACT AND A MAJOR PART OF THIS CHEMISTRY

[@iguesss]

@@colbybrand5326would have been an easier win with a real shooting guard. We are running the offense specifically to get bane going. Any 20 million dollar player will avg 25 if the entire team is focused on getting you going

[@iguesss]

@@colbybrand5326reworks the offense for bane then blames morant for not fitting in. Makes excuses 10 games in a row for bane injury but won’t even consider Ja shoulder surgery

[@colbybrand5326]

@ ja is literally my favorite player in the nba. I could show you a photograph of his cards that I own that equal a years salary. I love the guy and I have 4 years of countless hours fighting people online, defending him. I still love the guy like I said. But your judgment of Bane is totally illogical if you cannot apply the same judgement to ja. Bane is probably playing better than ja this year at this point. I am, by no means, saying bane is better than ja. I think ja is better than JJJ. I seriously think Ja could be top 3 guards in the NBA, top 6 player in the nba, IF HE TURNED INTO A REAL COMPETITOR AND QUIT WITH THE BULLSHIT INJURY STUFF. But yeah, he’s my favorite player. JJJ is #2 and Bane #3. Bane is tough, he shows up to work and JJJ only sits if he’s injured. JA has just lost that competitive thing and I want to see it come back. The injury stuff is about his anger with the refs not giving him calls and they don’t.

[@AnthonyThomas-l4l]

At this stage we need a championship caliber coach. Don’t believe our coach can do what Kerr did for Golden State.

[@iceburg3323]

What you said

[@Unconvinced1]

Taylor Jenkins(Bobby Hill) doesn’t deserve this position. Imagine if he was the Rockets coach. They’d still be worst in the league, not clear 2nd in the west

[@iguesss]

Jaesean Tate has ALWAYS been better than Bane and is the reason Danuel House lost his job but Houston didn’t pay Tate $34 million nor did the increase his usage to unthinkable heights

[@lilcw76]

I'm going to cut Jenkins and the players some slack this game. A lot of players are returning so it's going to take a little time to adjust.

[@dregamingz]

As much as I love our new offense, it feels like it limits out best guys. I feel like it doesn’t allow Ja and JJJ to flourish as much as they could. It causes us to rely a lot on our role players which can be great at times but most of the time I would rather have a bucket from one of our 3 main guys. This system creates easier looks for our other guys. It doesn’t create easier looks for Morant.

[@brandoonf6962]

also too many subs. They had 10 subs in first quarter before Houston made first sub. They sub the main guys back in with less than 5 mins to work with in the 4th

[@dregamingz]

@ yeah, and it prevents them from getting into a rhythm

[@tomas1565]

@@dregamingz I agree. We can’t rely on our role players to be star loaded teams like OKC or the Mavs. We need our stars to beat them. We also don’t get enough halfcourt sets where we try to play at a playoff pace, hence us doing terrible in close games this season. Fans may look at the record & be blinded by that, but they need to see that teams who succeed in the playoffs do amazing in the halfcourt come playoff time when everything is slowed down, there’s less foul calls, & everyone is playing at 110% effort.

[@Sole10Kicks]

Ion wanna hear about Bane now. I been saying for 2 to 3 that Bane is mid and has no athleticism and gots to go

[@Unconvinced1]

If I could go back in time I’m making sure Dillon Brooks does not leave. He should be making as much money as Bane RIGHT NOW

[@davidsteward1902]

That is a scalding hot take.

[@dangeloquinn5878]

If Udoka coached the Grizzles we win the chip! I like TJ but i dont know if he is a championship level head coach at this point. His lack of feel for the game shows he never played the game at a high level. You can't just depend on analytics and set rotations when you are getting punched in the mouth!!

[@Eagle8]

@@dangeloquinn5878 I agree 100%! Taylor has gone to his highest level with this team. How the Grizzlies finish the playoffs should determine his fate.

[@Unconvinced1]

Bane comes off the bench , we win this game. He is a max contract BENCH player

[@Unconvinced1]

I can’t even watch this crap. This guy blindfolds himself with Bane playing like a veteran minimum but if Ja plays bad this guy wants to hand out blame awards and act like Grizz carry him

[@colbybrand5326]

Bro, how many times and how many accounts are you going to say the same thing?

[@dangeloquinn5878]

Offensive system is lazy and puts the pressure on the players to make split second decisions versus the coaching staff actually coaching and instructing players on where to be. This offense excels against Euroleague talent and bottom feeder NBA teams! It needs on the fly adjustments, not just relying on lazy principles against great NBA coaches and players. Defensively, once you understand the principles of this offense it's easy to defend. We don't get any of thos back door cut buckets against good teams and this offense is to reliant on those to be successful. Coaches need to adjust according to the feel and flow of the specific game!!!

[@BoxoutCapalot]

What could we get for bane? Getting real real tired of him

[@hayrunnisapampal7866]

man, sengun almost single-handedly dominated the game and is currently the best player on rocket... imagine what it would be like if he was in grizzles... it would be amazing🤩

[@sylvesterwilliams1931]

Edey to the G league for awhile? Bane’s turnovers are the problem not the other team.

[@dregamingz]

G League isn’t the answer for every young player. He’ll just dominate the smaller defenders and get used to having the ball every play which is not the same role that he will have in the nba.

[@iguesss]

Udoka is just a better coach and a better man. Lol Taylor Jenkins would have had a nervous breakdown had he been in Udoka shoes

[@jroc828]

lmao.

[@60zeller]

Last Jenkins TO was awful. Why allow the opponent make subs and set there D. Then you have to inbound the ball.

[@iguesss]

I don’t even have to crash out anymore. My ppl understand when Memphis is being robbed. Bane and Smart gotta go, ion care if it cost picks

[@colbybrand5326]

You’re on crack, bane is unbelievable and he showed it again tonight

[@colbybrand5326]

@@iguesss banes last 10 games: Points per game 21.3 Assists per game. 6.1 Rebounds per game 5.8 Steals per game 1.6 3point % 38.3% Fg % 51.1% Turnover per game 3.7 Ja Points per game 20.4 Assists per game. 5.4 Rebounds per game 3.6 Steals per game 0.8 3point % 29.2% Fg % 41.5% Turnover per game 4.4 Bane wins in every category SUBSTANTIALLY!!!! Points per game Bane + 0.9 Assists per game. Bane +0.7 Rebounds per game Bane + 2.2 Steals per game Bane + 0.8 3point % Bane +9.6% Fg % Bane + 9.6% Turnover per game Bane -0.7 So, I’ve kind of proved major Bane bias here. Dude is hooping, the last 10 games, A CLEAR #2 BEHIND JAREN, who is playing out of his mind. BANE IS DEFINITELY WORTH HIS CONTRACT AND A MAJOR PART OF THIS CHEMISTRY

[@jubriladeojo9548]

Love our rookies - Jaylen, GG, VInce and Jake but they can’t take us deep in the playoffs as go-to role players. Smart needs to get healthy and play.

[@Unconvinced1]

Smart is garbage and too slow. Big reasons Celtics needed him gone. We don’t need a combo guard who can’t shoot and 6’3 playing small forward. We’re cooked. Only good in the East with Lebronto. Worst 20 million in the league

[@Unconvinced1]

Marcus Smart only should be affecting Pippen mins but the fact that he taking time from all the small forwards tells you we are a first round exit. Kindergarten roster building

[@Unconvinced1]

Smart shooting 20 percent from 3 for 20 million.. making more than Herb Jones, DFS, Lu Dort and Dyson Daniels 🤮

[@jubriladeojo9548]

We need to reduce turnovers to 10-13 per game max.

[@Unconvinced1]

Impossible if Edey wants to pretend to be a center but when you throw him the ball to catch and finish he gift wraps it to the other team

[@Unconvinced1]

Bane cost as much as Herb Jones and Lu Dort COMBINED with George’s Niang on the side.. all for Bum Bane 🤢🤮🥴

[@Unconvinced1]

I need Bane in Utah

[@colbybrand5326]

banes last 10 games: Points per game 21.3 Assists per game. 6.1 Rebounds per game 5.8 Steals per game 1.6 3point % 38.3% Fg % 51.1% Turnover per game 3.7 Ja Points per game 20.4 Assists per game. 5.4 Rebounds per game 3.6 Steals per game 0.8 3point % 29.2% Fg % 41.5% Turnover per game 4.4 Bane wins in every category SUBSTANTIALLY!!!! Points per game Bane + 0.9 Assists per game. Bane +0.7 Rebounds per game Bane + 2.2 Steals per game Bane + 0.8 3point % Bane +9.6% Fg % Bane + 9.6% Turnover per game Bane -0.7 So, I’ve kind of proved major Bane bias here. Dude is hooping, the last 10 games, A CLEAR #2 BEHIND JAREN, who is playing out of his mind. BANE IS DEFINITELY WORTH HIS CONTRACT AND A MAJOR PART OF THIS CHEMISTRY

[@tomjenkins3353]

I think we need to play the season out no trade like OKC did so these young guys get some playoff experience. Then in the office go all in on a big trade or free agent and really go for a chip.

[@Unconvinced1]

Marcus smart ain’t young smh. Plus Laravia and Santi need contracts. A trade is the only way. Plus this team is a first round exit and Ja will get hurt trying to be the only guard that will clamp the facilitator

[@brandoonf6962]

no way. We need to go in this year. You never know how long this window can last

[@Unconvinced1]

So obvious a first round exit.. we cocky rn but 4 losses from 12th place(no playoffs). We might get all those loses next week

[@tomas1565]

Players aren’t getting younger, JJJ about to get a super max the way he’s playing, & we possibly can’t resign our best bench player this season in Santi Aldama. We keep saying our teams young, but the last time we made a dent in the playoffs was three years ago. Our big three are a year or two away from their ‘prime’. Ja is 25, JJJ 25, & Des 26. Windows close fast & it seems like it’s happening for our franchise already.

[@dregamingz]

We’ve done that so many times Alr

[@dangeloquinn5878]

Turnovers and fouls!! If we can clean up these two areas we'll be fine! Easier said than done though. With guys in and out of the line up it will be a task. I think we will begin to win games like these after the all star break.

[@colbybrand5326]

BANE IS PLAYING AMAZING THE LAST 10 GAMES. HES ACTUALLY PLAYING FAR BETTER THAN JA. LETS NOT HATE ON OUR TEAM MEMBERS! banes last 10 games: Points per game 21.3 Assists per game. 6.1 Rebounds per game 5.8 Steals per game 1.6 3point % 38.3% Fg % 51.1% Turnover per game 3.7 Ja Points per game 20.4 Assists per game. 5.4 Rebounds per game 3.6 Steals per game 0.8 3point % 29.2% Fg % 41.5% Turnover per game 4.4 Bane wins in every category SUBSTANTIALLY!!!! Points per game Bane + 0.9 Assists per game. Bane +0.7 Rebounds per game Bane + 2.2 Steals per game Bane + 0.8 3point % Bane +9.6% Fg % Bane + 9.6% Turnover per game Bane -0.7 So, I’ve kind of proved major Bane bias here. Dude is hooping, the last 10 games, A CLEAR #2 BEHIND JAREN, who is playing out of his mind. BANE IS DEFINITELY WORTH HIS CONTRACT AND A MAJOR PART OF THIS CHEMISTRY

[@BoxoutCapalot]

I’m starting to get real worried about bane. If he don’t turn it around he’s gotta get traded for a real star or is gonna be a long season

[@Unconvinced1]

The moment we trade Bane we can actually contend for a championship. Not just beat up on the East . 0 athleticism for a guy under 6’5 won’t win championships

[@ohbuadi2623]

🚀🚀🚀

[@colbybrand5326]

For the 1 guy repeating the same thing about Bane 50x, look at the numbers. BANE WAS 60% from the field and 40% from 3. Bane had 2 steals. Yes, he had 4 turnovers, but we constantly have a new team out there because our leader is constantly MIA/fake injury. Bane shows up to work.

[@iguesss]

Can’t fool me, just cuz he passes the ball to Wells to miss a 3 at the ending the clock doesn’t mean he didn’t waste an entire possession not being able to create an advantage

[@Unconvinced1]

Bane is such a waste as a max contract back court mate for Ja. They haven’t won a big game together since Dillon Brooks was here

[@Unconvinced1]

Bane CANNOT be a starter. Dillon Brooks reminded us

[@wengss]

How does Bane compare to other teams' 3rd option? (Porzingis, Chet, Reaves, PG, Mobley, Klay, Beal, DeRozan, Powell). May we could package Bane and Santi for an all-star like Lavine, Zion, Lauri, Booker or Cam

[@Unconvinced1]

Funny thing is Bane makes way more than Cam Johnson. We should trade Bane for Brandon Ingram and get a lockdown defender in his position like Bruce Brown or Keldon Johnson for Smart

[@wengss]

@@Unconvinced1 I think this might be Bane's final run. If he cannot make an impression in the playoffs, he is out.

[@Unconvinced1]

@@wengssI hope they realize before February he isn’t worth it

[@Eagle8]

After a Grizzlies lost the Bane haters return. Usually, when we lose our opponent's center put up hugh numbers. We're not equipped to defend bully ball yet. Go Grizzlies!

[@iguesss]

Bane only plays well against the worst teams in the league. Also if no one else is playing he might score over 20. No chemistry with Ja

[@alvarocastroregueiro]

He is not a bad finisher on the rim bane can score but man he is too weak on defense and playmaking. He makes so many turnovers and stupid fouls. So much inconsistency with him

[@iguesss]

@ I see bane get his lay up swatted by so many non centers smh

[@colbybrand5326]

@@Eagle8 I’m pretty sure some of the bane haters are the same person. This is not uncommon in the basketball comment sections. Weirdos, usually haters, create 4 or 5 accounts so that they can make it look like an opinion is widely shared. Iguess and the other loud mouth are almost surely the same person.

[@Eagle8]

Iguess with the dress is definitely one of them.

[@iguesss]

Bane is a guard with no handles but he doesn’t have Bruce Brown intangibles either

[@Unconvinced1]

Bane is such an incomplete player it drives me insane he got a max contract. Poor Jaesean Tate.. franchises really make the difference. Dillon Brooks will be missed

[@colbybrand5326]

Just to hammer the point home about Bane, he and Ja had the same amount of turnovers, bane had more assists than ja, Bane had more steals than ja, Bane had a 20% higher efficiency than ja, Bane had more rebounds than ja, Ban had a 20% higher 3 point percentage than ja. BANE HAD A BETTER GAME THAN JA BY THE NUMBERS. Sure, ja had more points but I’d take Bane shooting more shots over ja shooting more shots in this game. ITS FOOLISH TO PRETEND THAT DESMOND BANE IS NOT ELITE. HE WASNT EVEN IN THE CONVERSATION FOR BUTLER BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT BANE, AT THIS MOMENT, IS MORE VALUABLE THAN BUTLER. People are free to have an opinion but look at Banes career. These people trashing him are fools

[@Unconvinced1]

If we keep Bane then forget about a championship. It’s too easy for super athletes like Amen and Green. Arms not a threat above the rim 🤮

[@Unconvinced1]

I desperately wanna see if Bane would be a legit $34 million dollar guy in Utah Brooklyn or New Orleans 😬 I already know he gonna cost my franchise an opportunity this year for the championship.. one of those privileged hoopers.. never blamed/questioned until it’s too late

[@Unconvinced1]

I like Ja turnovers when he is doing no look lobs but Ja needs to be more selfish if Edey and Bane are the ones cutting to the basket. BC can barely dunk anymore

[@Unconvinced1]

Memphis we have a problem 🚀🚑

[@Unconvinced1]

Bench Bane in the first half we win this game

[@Unconvinced1]

Jaesean Tate shouldn’t be better than Bane. Bane makes more than Jalen Green 🤬🤬🤬

[@colbybrand5326]

iguess and Unconvinced are the same guy, so obvious

[@Unconvinced1]

Bane attempts 0 shots because Amen and Green are so much faster than him, he isnt offensively dangerous at all, just high usage. Jaesean Tate is better

[@jaybucket2374]

You know he dropped 16 points right on 60% shooting 😭

[@iguesss]

@@jaybucket2374he had 1 point in the first half and had the ball a lot

[@Unconvinced1]

@@jaybucket2374he attempted 0 shots in the first half

[@edmorse8654]

Kennard has a NO TRADE contract Joe! What don’t you understand about that? Other comments about Bane are rt on not a star player. Good but not a star. Bluff city Grind city and you and DMC try to brainwash people about the big 3 and how great jalen is and pippin and they can’t play against the better teams! Memphis is not a championship team damnit!

[@MJ-ib7ev]

Gotta see these guys with full team, until then... we suck

[@Unconvinced1]

I would trade Bane for John Collins and Jordan Clarkson. Marcus Smart for Bruce Brown 🤠 but instead this team is charity for players who aren’t good enough to feel like they made it in the league

[@alex77195]

Jaesean Tate > Ja

[@iguesss]

Lol keep coping. This team cooked if we trade Ja and a fav to win it all if we trade Bane. But y’all love who y’all love

[@alex77195]

Jaesean Tate is better than anyone on the Grizzlies. A team of 15 Jaeseasn Tate's would beat this team 4-0 in a series with an average margin of victory of 40.

[@colbybrand5326]

@@alex77195 😂 he scores 4 points a game. This has to be a troll

[@alex77195]

@@colbybrand5326 Then why did the grizzlies let him kick their ass?

[@colbybrand5326]

@@alex77195 what are you saying man? You mean because he had a good game, I mean, okay game, he scored 12 points got 4 rebounds, that means he’s better than every grizzly player? I just don’t understand your argument here? I think Sangun is a game changer, but not Tate? If you poll tested is grizzly player 1,2,3…, I think you’d get pretty far into the bench before you can say Tate is better. Tate is probably better than Laravia, not wells. I just don’t know what you’re saying here. It’s absurd to say Tate is better than any of the starting grizzlies

[@Unconvinced1]

All Bane can do under the rim is foul. Ja shouldn’t be able to block layups better than his 2guard. Ja plz request a trade