Tutorial - How to make Demon Wings in Vroid

[@succuvamp_anna]

I'm so in love with those wings, I'm wanting an avater that's a vampire/succubus Hybrid ❤️

[@Loshko86]

hm.. from what i learned so far, one could do literal limbs out of hair, and then attach them to each other in unity

[@ArgamaWitch]

Yes....but they are funky. I have a failed piece coming out soon showing that.

[@starryskies279]

You posted this at the right time! I literally just finished my Vroid model yesterday but I didn't know how to fix wings clipping through my clothes. I'm glad you showed that part on rotating, it helped me a lot! :)

[@XiconExertoroyah]

Wonderful! I'm going to save this for when I make updates on avatars! Thank you, Argama!

[@tolafia6708]

This is the most useful vtuber tutorial channel.

[@Fixer_Su3ana]

Thanks for showing how to do wings! Just in time for Halloween!

[@SamiiInsane]

for someone who doesnt understand vroid very much.... but im trying to learn this was a very hard tutorial to follow.... i dont understand what steps we are taking or why and there were alot of steps here that i saw what you were doing but didnt know myself how to get to that point.... Im sure for others that understand the basics of vroid this was somewhat easier to follow. The wings looked amazing... just wish i could figure out how to follow along without getting lost every step of the way.

[@ArgamaWitch]

I probably explained them in one of my dozen other tutorials. I have a how to use vroid tutorial although a bit out of date at this point. This is was not a beginner tutorial but intermediate at best

[@SyanTheBee]

too awesome! exactly what I was looking forward to, now I can update some of my characters ^^ thanks!

[@ArgamaWitch]

Glad I could help!

[@SyanTheBee]

@@ArgamaWitch Is it possible to have like a different body type as a vroid? I been trying to figure how to make people chubbier in vroid studio too

[@ArgamaWitch]

@@SyanTheBee not really, but you can use un wrinkled pants tight fitting to mimic thicker legs, and a hoodie adds some bulk. Example: hub.vroid.com/en/characters/6620576853570434539/models/1365000961672563993

[@SyanTheBee]

@@ArgamaWitch That's still pretty good ^^ I'll keep this in mind have you ever played vr chat?

[@MrMariarl]

The wings ypu did looks sooooooo good! 💙 im going to try make my own and hope it will be a sucsess! xD

[@ArgamaWitch]

Good luck!!

[@aeretae735]

ok, so i might be stupid, but where do you get the bone weight transfer plugin from? i don't have it. edit: nevermind! i found it on another one of your videos!

[@akari2623]

where can i get the wings photo?

[@ragingdollface5587]

Is it possible to add clothing or accessories like this to a finished avatar? Like one you've already finalized in unity? Could I just.. rename the objects or textures / materials and drag them into the finished avatars unity file, and do some voodoo to make it work? I've noticed after finishing up my avatar and adding a bunch of custom emotes that it's probably going to be difficult if not impossible to change the clothing without having to redo everything I've already done in unity. Unless there's a way, but I can't find anyone talking about it.

[@ArgamaWitch]

Yeah, you an switch out textures, but it would be on the same mesh. So if you have a one piece dress, you cant add a hoodie texture to it, has to only be one piece texture

[@ragingdollface5587]

@@ArgamaWitch Ah okay, but you can't transfer the hoodie mesh over? Or say add these wings to a new avatar in unity? When you make new outfits and accessories do you gotta completely redo all the expressions / bone weighting / line color, etc again each time?

[@ArgamaWitch]

@@ragingdollface5587 you can not transfer mesh over. You would have to reexport the avatar after changing clothes. Yeah you have to redo everything

[@ragingdollface5587]

@@ArgamaWitch Okay, thanks for the help and quick responses!

[@lilywong9672]

How are you able to move the wings? Unity literally isn't letting me move anything with the rotate or move tool. No joints will move at all.

[@joeslambers3537]

very interesting thanks

[@ArgamaWitch]

You're welcome

[@WobinOfYlisse]

This probably isn't the place to ask this but is there a way to put a vroid in facerig? I've been looking around for a bit and I haven't gotten much results. Anyway I love your content and it's really helped me out a lot

[@ArgamaWitch]

No not really. Sorry. But Luppet and Vseeface are rather similar in the way they track

[@WobinOfYlisse]

Alright, just got Luppet and it seems to work pretty well. Really appreciate the help! ❤

[@evanjett9613]

amazing.

[@befana666_vods]

do u know a away of making more 3d ish wings cuz im really bad at drawing stuff so it looks 3d

[@ArgamaWitch]

Could try with thicker hair pieces for each section, or model in blender

[@1999StarofCalamity]

Question I know how to make the wings half like the hair parts, but its more like the texture/png of the wings do know where I can find it?

[@ArgamaWitch]

I'm sorry, I dont know what you are asking

[@1999StarofCalamity]

@@ArgamaWitch sorry, I meant what size of wings have to be.

[@pomshi]

Thank you for this vid! I've been trying to make a robot with wings in Vroid and had no idea you could bend hair like that😭😭

[@ArgamaWitch]

Glad I could help!

[@antfr1993]

Omg adjusting offset! That would work for shoes too like trying to make name brand shoes like nikes , converse etc 😄 I'm inspired now!

[@ArgamaWitch]

Great idea!!

[@KageriTsukikage]

you are the best ma'm

[@turkesadiamante9215]

HELLO I have a problem, when I add the bones of the wings, the hair also moves, the hair of the head and they separate, how do I do that? that would help me a lot

[@ArgamaWitch]

You need to export the hair uncombined and move only the wings over when moving the wing bones

[@yumerei_vt]

i'm not sure what i did wrong but for some reason when i try to transfer the joints as you do i get an error (unless thats normal)

[@ArgamaWitch]

what error?

[@yumerei_vt]

@@ArgamaWitch i figured it out but it was like the red text at the bottom of unity. i don't remember what it said though.

[@BUNNYZLIVEZONTHEMOON]

Btw I don’t have unity can’t I use blender or paint 3D

[@ArgamaWitch]

Maybe but I dont know how. Unity is a free program

[@BUNNYZLIVEZONTHEMOON]

But when I downloaded the program on download page it said to buy unity Mars or premium

[@BUNNYZLIVEZONTHEMOON]

Or am I blind XD

[@ArgamaWitch]

@@BUNNYZLIVEZONTHEMOON you shouldn't need to buy anything

[@BUNNYZLIVEZONTHEMOON]

Ahh

[@softelfi8721]

is it possible to just add wings made in vroid studio to already existing model?

[@ArgamaWitch]

I dont know how

[@MInThePast]

Hi, Thank you for all your tutorials ! ♥ I have a problem on Unity 2019.4.20f1 → I don't find the Tool Tab and the window for "BoneWeightTransfer". Do you have an idea where it is ? :/ Thank you guys !

[@KiiVoltos]

What size does the texture file need to be in order to fit properly? The wings I'm trying to use are just too big, no matter how I resize them...

[@ArgamaWitch]

they need to fit in half a hair texture

[@Hyp3rsh0t98]

i have a question, do i need to pull the vrm into blender ever? i assume no and that unity is just being stupid rn

[@Hyp3rsh0t98]

i should add that i have followed every step but its like my wings are really stiff and wont flap or be fluid at all. do they have to be an accessory with the new vroid?

[@ArgamaWitch]

this wings dont flap, they wiggle a bit because I added a bone to each one. If you want them to flap they do need to go into unity

[@MsZyraMMD]

Thank you for making this I just have one question I dont use Unity will it still work if you port to Blender or PMXE for MMD?

[@ArgamaWitch]

I've no idea, I dont use Blender or MMD

[@auqustfire]

It will in PMXE but you have to turn the vrm model into a pmx model. There's a converter that works well but I think you'll need Blender and Unity to turn the PMX model back into a VRM model.

[@alexisross9343]

In theory: Yes In execution: It's.. complicated. Blender uses the same Bones rigging that the other systems use and it does transfer across; however whenever you're adding in bones for rigging you have to pay attention to the weight groups, and how you assign the vertices to each bone group. In blender, because you're editing the meshes directly, you can lose verts if you don't pay attention. if you're comfortable with the blender layout and you know what you're doing, you can totally link up the bone groups or object parents, just save often just in case.

[@MsZyraMMD]

Thanks guys I was just wondering if I could rig it in Blender and port to MMD

[@Deannez]

I have a question, when I hit play the model ends up really far away. do you have a video about how to move the model after hitting play? or could you tell me how to do that? it's just some thing I'm struggling with since i can't move the model and when I use the zoom tool provided it make the model pixelated.

[@ArgamaWitch]

You have to select scene and not game. (Should be below the play button)

[@Deannez]

@@ArgamaWitch Oh, i see thank you so much!

[@anzui]

hey argama, does this work with the new vroid? ;_; i mirrored the wings perfectly, but whenever i fiddle witht he offset, it is not perfect - thank you so much though, your tutorial is amazingly helpful, i think there's somethign weird about the new update to the vroid

[@ArgamaWitch]

It should work, but you could just do the wings one at a time instead of mirror

[@antfr1993]

Is there a way to make tails like similar to the vrchat avatars?

[@ArgamaWitch]

Im nit familiar with vrchat avatars, sorry

[@softelfi8721]

also, is it possible to animate the wings to move a little? thank you for the tutorial

[@ArgamaWitch]

maybe in Blender

[@steffo9772]

Hey Argama! I did this step by step and made sure the model was clicked on the hierarchy, but when i tried to export it, its asking that it requires animator.avatar. and i dont know what that is! D:

[@ArgamaWitch]

im sorry, I dont know what that is either

[@Quinnnlly]

I'm having this same problem and everything i've looked up on google or reaching out to the vrm people is very confusing for me. Basically the program isn't seeing our avatar as humanoids anymore. I'll put the link that I found here and maybe someone can help us figure it out ^.^ vrm.dev/en/docs/univrm/export/univrm_export/#animatoravatar-is-not-valid

[@usagi_gamer]

@@Quinnnlly I did some digging and I found out that you have to download the fbx exporter from the package manager and export your model as an fbx to export it again into vrm its weird so heres the instructions i followed support.soxware.com/en/communities/1/topics/323-only-avatars-created-by-unity-model-importer-are-supported-umotion I hope this helps!

[@imclueless9875]

is this for vrchat specifically or would this work in things like luppet?

[@ArgamaWitch]

it works with luppet

[@imclueless9875]

@@ArgamaWitch thank you so much

[@thedemonkingcornerdr.midni3635]

i love how no matter what i can not find a way to add my wings full already made wings to my avatar

[@ArgamaWitch]

You can add them in unity or blender

[@ZzXDaMaGedXzZ]

Hey Argama, thanks for the Tutorial, uhm I am having an issue when I am trying to relocate my accessoires. Everytime I wanna drag them in any dimension, it seems like the texture is bound to the original spot. Havent found a way to fix it yet. Do you have any ideas on how to move the entire thing?

[@ArgamaWitch]

When exporting you need to 1) be sure combined hairgroups in the export table isnt selected, 2) the accessory was given a bone, 3) the bone's fixpoint is 0 or as close to 0 as possible. 4) make sure the accessory is as close to orignal point as you can go. and if all of that you still get stretching when moving, you may need to make the top of your accessory texture transparent so you can move it.

[@ZzXDaMaGedXzZ]

@@ArgamaWitch sadly none of these worked for me, but I am very grateful for the fast respond. :)

[@ArgamaWitch]

@@ZzXDaMaGedXzZ can you explain what it is doing?

[@ZzXDaMaGedXzZ]

@@ArgamaWitch So basically I imported the vrm and bonetransfer file and my vroid model. I created multiple accessoires and added bones to them following your advices. But when I start moving it with the moving tool like 98% of it is moving properly, but 2% of it is being stretched all the way to the new location. And I have no idea how to fix it. It might probably be something simple since I am new to unity. But something I also noticed is, that the bonetransfer doesnt seem to work either anymore. I tried the bonetransfer a few days ago once I had the first accessoire just to be sure it works. And it did. But now changing the bones to a new parent bone doesnt work anymore, eventhough I get the message "successful" in the bottom left corner.

[@ArgamaWitch]

@@ZzXDaMaGedXzZ The bone transfer still works for me. But I find that you need to move the bones to the new area, transfer the bone group using the transfer, and then each individual one. I find that sometimes if you miss one of these it will stretch. But not always

[@윤슬-j4z]

Oh!!!!

[@yudelkanova2858]

Thanx u 💖

[@ArgamaWitch]

You're welcome 😊

[@Ahurd123]

So, while the tutorials are good. They don't have verbal explanations as to starting each step. When giving tutorials, you need to explain with words what it is your doing, otherwise those who are trying to learn the software won't have a clue what you are doing. Some people learn through explanations not just watching actions on a screen. Telling the viewer which section of the modelling creation you are in is vital, then explain the steps aloud, so viewers can follow along easier. Also, putting links to the software in the description will help new comers to the vtuber scene get the software you mention. So far, every vroid tutorial has the same flaws in it.

[@ArgamaWitch]

I quit making tutorials like over a year ago, there are plenty out there that probably do what you want, this method is for those that learn that way. Maybe my channel isnt for you... although I dont make tutorials anymore and have been debating on deleting them but kept them around to help people.... but... hmm...

[@BushidoDragonGaming]

Doesn't actually show how to make wing but thank you 😁

[@ArgamaWitch]

You are correct, I did show what it should look like on a texture, but the drawing of the wing itself would be up to the individual person

[@BushidoDragonGaming]

@@ArgamaWitch true so i figured i try those last lol right now tail

[@ArgamaWitch]

@@BushidoDragonGaming sounds like a solid plan

[@BushidoDragonGaming]

@@ArgamaWitch in fact i decided go with a asain dragon look so no wings just a tail

[@BUNNYZLIVEZONTHEMOON]

Seventh?! ;w;